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(Stabley Times)   Papa John's PR flacks are trying to get CEO John Schnatter's anti-Obamacare comments removed from the internet. Let me know how that works out   (stableytimes.com) divider line 211
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2013-01-27 05:12:20 PM
Papa Johns shilling with the NFL on all those free pizzas based on a coinflip -- someone wants to divide by zero really badly.

Then again, he could get Goddell to fine people for supporting ObamaCare.
 
2013-01-27 05:33:50 PM
Hmm. Buy Papa John's because the CEO opposes Obamacare, or don't buy from there because they're trying to backpedal.
 
2013-01-27 05:34:26 PM
He should post some pics of his junk.
Two days later everyone will have totally forgotten about the remark business....
 
2013-01-27 05:34:31 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Papa Johns shilling with the NFL on all those free pizzas based on a coinflip -- someone wants to divide by zero really badly.

Then again, he could get Goddell to fine people for supporting ObamaCare.


You gotta think that this promotion will cost much more than the increase in employee health care due to "ObamaCare" will be.
 
2013-01-27 05:35:02 PM
shiatty pizza from a shiatty person.
 
2013-01-27 05:36:05 PM
1) biatch about obamacare
2) Fire employees after losing money from boycotts
3) Blame Obamacare for firing frenzy
 
2013-01-27 05:36:17 PM
It's pizza, for fark's sake. If you don't have a decent, locally-owned place near your house then can you bring me back a penguin from Ice Station Zebra?
 
2013-01-27 05:38:17 PM
From the Slow Learner's Dept:

Trying to wash away the story just makes it worse, because

(a)Google effect - journos write more stories about it, and either link or refer to the original, thus lifting the page rank of the original story

(b)Human effect - you remind people of a story they would otherwise have forgotten
 
2013-01-27 05:39:36 PM
Never understood why corporate execs are stupid enough to make their companies the target of public flogging by making comments on hotbed political topics. Same thing with Chic-fil-A earlier this year.

Keep your mouth shut and lobby behind the scenes, but dragging your company into highly contentious political topics with public statements is the sign of an idiot.
 
2013-01-27 05:40:00 PM
Just like Papa John's pizza in your intestines, Schnatter's comments will be stuck on the Internet FOREVER.
 
2013-01-27 05:41:06 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's pizza, for fark's sake. If you don't have a decent, locally-owned place near your house then can you bring me back a penguin from Ice Station Zebra?


Ice Station Zebra was set in the arctic.
Penguins, not.
 
2013-01-27 05:41:22 PM
I didn't know that a flack was a publicity agent. Thanks, Fark, I learned something today.
 
2013-01-27 05:42:14 PM
You can't take something off the Internet. It's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
 
2013-01-27 05:42:21 PM
(c) Streisand Effect - people get pissed off at censorship* attempts and pass the story on further.

*Yeah, I know there's a whole crowd who say "it isn't censorship if it isn't the government doing it!" I don't drink that Kool-Aid.
 
2013-01-27 05:42:45 PM

mjjt: From the Slow Learner's Dept:

Trying to wash away the story just makes it worse, because

(a)Google effect - journos write more stories about it, and either link or refer to the original, thus lifting the page rank of the original story

(b)Human effect - you remind people of a story they would otherwise have forgotten


Otherwise known as the Streisand Effect
 
2013-01-27 05:43:06 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-27 05:43:13 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's pizza, for fark's sake. If you don't have a decent, locally-owned place near your house then can you bring me back a penguin from Ice Station Zebra?


ohboyherewego.jpg

/locally owned pizza joints are delicious
//mmmm... mother bears pizza...
///But I do like me some Pizza Hut stuffed crust...
 
2013-01-27 05:43:44 PM
what a douche.
 
2013-01-27 05:43:52 PM
"This week a public relations firm representing Papa John's and Schnatter asked us to unpublish the story."

Wouldn't it be easier to just unsay the remarks?
 
2013-01-27 05:44:03 PM
I once lifted the phrase "ground-level Streisand cannons" from someone here on Fark. That phrase just kept running through my head while reading this article.
 
2013-01-27 05:44:38 PM
Papa John's PR flacks are trying to get CEO John Schnatter's anti-PPACA comments removed from the internet. Let me know how that works out

Naturally, they use the "out of context/misquoted" card. Now what was the quote again so it can be repeated?

/It's PPACA folks
//Nothing else.
 
2013-01-27 05:45:09 PM
I guess the real question is:
Should he charge $0.15 more per pizza sold for his workers to have health care, or pay his workers $7.50 an hour more than minimum wage that would allow them to pay for it themselves?
It seems that it would be obvious, which would be cheaper, better & less problematic for him in the short and long term. Also if he were to do a pool rate with a nationwide insurer, he could probably drive the actual insurance cost per pizza down to around $0.08. As all large employers will eventually be required to do the same, by getting on it first, he could have an advantage compared to his other competitors by reducing turnover, and getting some more family oriented people cooking rather than the high turnover Highschoolers or college part-timers that waste training time and dollars throughout the organization.
 
2013-01-27 05:45:16 PM
I'm still trying to remove the puke stains from the one time I tried his pizza.
 
2013-01-27 05:46:57 PM
www.thestreisandeffect.com
 
2013-01-27 05:47:29 PM
i172.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-27 05:48:37 PM
Papa John speaks with forked tongue.
 
2013-01-27 05:48:47 PM
Any other families of four have 2 members choosing heads and 2 members choosing tails to guarantee 2 free pizzas? Just putting it out there in case people didn't know that 4 people in a home can all apply if you have different emails. If you don't like him, get pizza on his dime. If you like him, get free pizzas anyhow.
 
2013-01-27 05:49:31 PM
Papa John's is nasty greasy garlic-flavored garlic that you will spend DAYS trying to shiat out. Do your bowels a favor and skip it.
 
2013-01-27 05:49:36 PM
Papa Johns, Godfathers, Dominoes - what's the deal with conservative assholes and bad pizza?
 
2013-01-27 05:49:59 PM

Acravius: I guess the real question is:
Should he charge $0.15 more per pizza sold for his workers to have health care, or pay his workers $7.50 an hour more than minimum wage that would allow them to pay for it themselves?
It seems that it would be obvious, which would be cheaper, better & less problematic for him in the short and long term. Also if he were to do a pool rate with a nationwide insurer, he could probably drive the actual insurance cost per pizza down to around $0.08. As all large employers will eventually be required to do the same, by getting on it first, he could have an advantage compared to his other competitors by reducing turnover, and getting some more family oriented people cooking rather than the high turnover Highschoolers or college part-timers that waste training time and dollars throughout the organization.



This would require foresight, good-heartedness and intelligence. All of which most "Obamacare" foes have little of.

I own a business and it baffles me when other business owners don't realize what's good for the employees is good for the company. What's good for society tends to be good too, unless you're selling poison...
 
2013-01-27 05:53:08 PM
Sitrick is one the best crisi-management companies in the business. I find it hard to believe it'd be dumb enough to try to sway reporters to remove a story. They might've asked this guy (who the fark is stableytimes, anyway?) to publish the full quote, which is totally fair, but I don't believe they asked him to take down the story.
I think this little blog platform or whatever it is, finally had someone respond to one of their cut-and-paste stories and got so excited, they did a story about it and still somehow managed to fark it up.
 
2013-01-27 05:54:07 PM
Doubleplus ungood.
 
2013-01-27 05:55:37 PM

jaytkay: Papa Johns, Godfathers, Dominoes - what's the deal with conservative assholes and bad pizza?


People looking to mass market product while cutting corners to increase profitability to show growth so they look good to investors often create low quaility products. Conservatives are the people most likely (not exclusively) to choose this option in business and thus we have the largest chains of low quality food/service often owned by people who are of the conservative mindset. Then they spend their money on their conservative causes saying that their conservatism is what made them great.
 
2013-01-27 05:57:28 PM

Sygonus: Never understood why corporate execs are stupid enough to make their companies the target of public flogging by making comments on hotbed political topics. Same thing with Chic-fil-A earlier this year.

Keep your mouth shut and lobby behind the scenes, but dragging your company into highly contentious political topics with public statements is the sign of an idiot.


Exactly. The only political stance my business will take is not associating with organizations (or other businesses) that support political positions I don't agree with, but I'm certainly not going to drag that out in public. Besides that, sometimes you just can't avoid it (like how I'm stuck with Walmart for local emergency office supplies). No need to make a big deal out of it.

Obviously it helps that I'm still just running a one woman operation, but if I were ever to hire employees I'd make that part of the conditions of working for me.
 
2013-01-27 05:59:33 PM
Will never buy a pizza from a bobble head dooshbag millionaire. Thank God i live in beautiful New Jersey, where we are heavily blessed with fine hard working Italian people who make delicious food in restaurants and pizzerias.
 
2013-01-27 06:00:21 PM

TheDirtyNacho: I own a business and it baffles me when other business owners don't realize what's good for the employees is good for the company. What's good for society tends to be good too, unless you're selling poison...


I ask myself this: do I want to eat at a restaurant that publicly proclaims that they don't want to make even a token effort to keep its workers healthy?
 
2013-01-27 06:02:01 PM

Brittabot: You can't take something off the Internet. It's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.


Indeed.
 
2013-01-27 06:02:47 PM

sethstorm: Papa John's PR flacks are trying to get CEO John Schnatter's anti-PPACA comments removed from the internet. Let me know how that works out

Naturally, they use the "out of context/misquoted" card. Now what was the quote again so it can be repeated?

/It's PPACA folks
//Nothing else.


I think he claimed that he was asked what franchise owners might do because of Obamacare. He doesn't directly manage any of the local pizza flippers, so he wasn't saying that he was personally going to do anything. However, I don't have the original comments in front of me and I don't feel like looking them up, so it may well be that he was obviously fighting against Obamacare. I don't buy that pizza anyway.
 
2013-01-27 06:03:49 PM

Fabric_Man: [www.thestreisandeffect.com image 400x254]


Wealth envy is sad.
 
2013-01-27 06:03:55 PM
I will gladly pay 11 cents more for a pizza if it helps people have access to health care. But I'm not a selfish greedy conservative.

/sorry for the repetition
 
2013-01-27 06:04:02 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's pizza, for fark's sake. If you don't have a decent, locally-owned place near your house then can you bring me back a penguin from Ice Station Zebra?


More importantly, good pizza is one of the easiest things in the world to make. You don't even need a stand mixer, you just have a plan to make pizza the night before.
 
2013-01-27 06:05:17 PM
I actually agree with Papa John's on this, too bad their pizza is crap.
 
2013-01-27 06:07:34 PM

CigaretteSmokingMan: [i172.photobucket.com image 256x320]


I don't know, that sister in rainbow bright stockings disappeared rather quickly.
 
2013-01-27 06:10:03 PM

taurusowner: Hmm. Buy Papa John's because the CEO opposes Obamacare, or don't buy from there because they're trying to backpedal.


Don't buy Papa John's because it's a terrible company run by a terrible man.
 
2013-01-27 06:12:31 PM
What the Schnattering Fark is a Schnatter?

I think we should make that a verb, along the lines of the substantif noun, Santorum.

Used in a sentence:  Oh, go schnatter some where else, you schnattering idiot.

"I don't know what that means", to quote David Letterman.

Perhaps it means "to talk on the web so as to sound fat or fat-headed". That would be a good tie-in with Papa John's, which I assume is some kind of fast food joint.
 
2013-01-27 06:12:47 PM
That reminds me- I was going to send him a check for $1.28 for the extra cost if the pizzas we ordered over the years along with a note that he could cash it next time he steps out of his enormous mansion

Hint to conservative CEOs- if you need to raise your prices by some trivial amount to give your employees (who touch our food) health care make a big deal out if the price rise. Except make the big deal about how we're going to pay the extra sixteen cents since health care for food workers is kind of important- nobody will give a damn about a few pennies
 
2013-01-27 06:13:32 PM
Donald Trump is an accomplished schnatter. That's not a comb-over. It is a fox fur cozy for a fat head.
 
2013-01-27 06:13:39 PM
Dear Mr. Johns,

I saved a local copy of the article. If you would like to compensate me for the removal of said data, I would be happy to do so.

Please send check to:
Rich Cream
c/o Fark


/no coupons please
 
2013-01-27 06:13:54 PM

taurusowner: Hmm. Buy Papa John's because the CEO opposes Obamacare, or don't buy from there because they're trying to backpedal.


Don't buy from them because they oppose Obamacare, don't buy from them because they're trying to backpedal, and don't buy from them because their pizza is ass.
 
2013-01-27 06:14:50 PM
Won't make a difference. Papa John's won't see a dime of my money.
 
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