rattchett: But he did ally with Hitler
rattchett: he was weak
rattchett: he assisted in the final solution
rattchett: he was a racist
Mussolini: Race? It is a feeling, not a reality. Ninety-five per cent, at least. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today.... National pride has no need of the delirium of race.
rattchett: his military was pathetic and basically lost every battle it ever participated in
rattchett: he invaded Ethiopia
rattchett: El Duce was a douche.
Bukharin: This is what I hate about politics. Knee jerk reactions matter more than prolonged conversation and debating facts.Mussolini came to power in 1922. Hitler in 1933. Eleven years is a long time. People overlook 1922-1933 because 1934-1945 overfills schoolbook attention the world over.This is why Mussolini came to power- in 1917 the Bolsheviks came to power in Russia. By 1922 the Bolsheviks were strong enough to have consolidated the old empire, retaken Belorussia, and were pressing deep into Poland. In Germany between 1918-1919 there was a naval revolt in Kiel, as well as a communist revolution in Bavaria. In 1919 Bela Kun was leading a communist revolt in Hungry. Even the Ottoman empire had fallen. Fear of chaos and red terror was spreading westward.Mussolini was able to avoid revolution. Yes, his tactics were strongarm, but Italy was not a democracy, it was a monarchy. "It could have been worse" is not a excuse, but... could it really have been better?To avoid revolution, the existing order needed to be preserved, the growing urban labour movement needed to be appeased (he himself was a former socialist party member,) the mafia needed to be bought off, and the Vatican needed guaranteed protection. Under Mussolini's rule coontil he effectively lost power was was propped up by the also dying National Socialist German empire), avant-garde art flowed. And until the ill fated alliance with Germany and the outbreak of war- people were not round up en masse and put in death camps, and Jews had a much larger gouvernment representation percentage than they had population percentage.Mussolini gets a worse wrap than he deserves. I'm not saying that he deserves a good wrap. What I am saying is that if it wasnt for WW2 and the alliance with Germany, he would be a regular old dictator swept into the dustbin of history and not have his name next to Hitler and Stalin in the same sentence of all the history books. While some of the methods may have been violent on a individ ...
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