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2013-01-27 05:16:22 PM  
Why is the UN approving codec stuff? Shouldn't they all be off trying to subvert American democra.... oops, I've said too much.

Really though, why UN? Just let the internet decide what it likes.
 
2013-01-27 05:19:10 PM  
www.bluecoat.com
 
2013-01-27 05:35:55 PM  
Neat but I'm not going to go through another round of ripping/transcoding my discs to shave a few TB off the storage needs, for new stuff this'll be great though. And all those little hardware devices currently being sold to watch things on or from the internet? Obsolete, all of them, bwahahahaha.

/yah I know the better ones can just update their software
//you hope!
 
2013-01-27 05:55:20 PM  
This is great news... for porn.
 
2013-01-27 06:39:47 PM  

fusillade762: This is great news... for porn.


I WAS GOING TO ... oh, hell. Congrats on beating me to the punch.
 
2013-01-27 06:42:30 PM  
But seriously - given the same display and same bandwidth, that much more A/V info?... I'll take that fidelity.
 
2013-01-27 06:59:26 PM  

gameshowhost: fusillade762: This is great news... for porn.

I WAS GOING TO ... oh, hell. Congrats on beating me to the punch.


Oh....there will be.....beating.....

I had something better for this...
 
2013-01-27 07:07:39 PM  

Phaeon: gameshowhost: fusillade762: This is great news... for porn.

I WAS GOING TO ... oh, hell. Congrats on beating me to the punch.

Oh....there will be.....beating.....


Will there be frog stomping?

Seriously, though, anyone know if this one's going to be more like the difference between MPEG-2 and MPEG-3 (which blew chunks) or more like the difference between MPEG-3 and H.264?
 
2013-01-27 07:08:50 PM  
i get off on codecs. this is cool.
 
2013-01-27 07:11:11 PM  

andrewagill: Phaeon: gameshowhost: fusillade762: This is great news... for porn.

I WAS GOING TO ... oh, hell. Congrats on beating me to the punch.

Oh....there will be.....beating.....

Will there be frog stomping?

Seriously, though, anyone know if this one's going to be more like the difference between MPEG-2 and MPEG-3 (which blew chunks) or more like the difference between MPEG-3 and H.264?


Or was it MPEG-4 Part 2 that blew chunks? It was the one that was in the old DivX compression. Lots of artefacts.
 
2013-01-27 07:19:03 PM  
VP9/Opus FTW!
 
2013-01-27 07:23:13 PM  
Oh great. Another codec of the week for the torrent basement jockeys to use. Download a file and roll th dice to see what combination of avi, mp4, xvid, divx, mkv, ogg, or other acronym they're using this month.

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.
 
2013-01-27 07:23:51 PM  
Does this mean I can drop to a cheaper data plan on my phone?
 
2013-01-27 07:24:07 PM  

BumpInTheNight: And all those little hardware devices currently being sold to watch things on or from the internet?


This is why I use a PC as my HTPC.  Just need to upgrade to a new version of XMBC or MPC when H.265 becomes common.

On the non-PC front, I hope that we'll get a new version of ATSC here in North America that uses H.265 soon.  I'm tired of the fact that Brazil has had a better TV format than the US for the majority of the past 40 years (first PAL-M vs. NTSC-M, then ISDB-Tb vs. ATSC).  Oh, and include 64QAM/4PSK-COFDM in addition to 8VSB for low power intra-city SFN repeaters where multipath is a huge issue.  Or fark, go for broke and bump up to 16VSB and 256QAM for OTA.
 
2013-01-27 07:26:50 PM  

DarthBart: Oh great. Another codec of the week for the torrent basement jockeys to use. Download a file and roll th dice to see what combination of avi, mp4, xvid, divx, mkv, ogg, or other acronym they're using this month.

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.


images.videolan.org
Doesn't see a problem.
 
2013-01-27 07:27:41 PM  
just make it good, and make it universal... I'm so sick of the 10,000 variants of each codecs
 
2013-01-27 07:31:39 PM  

DarthBart: Oh great. Another codec of the week for the torrent basement jockeys to use. Download a file and roll th dice to see what combination of avi, mp4, xvid, divx, mkv, ogg, or other acronym they're using this month.

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.


If you want a specific format, you can just include it in the search term since all the codecs used are included in the release name.
 
2013-01-27 07:34:36 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Neat but I'm not going to go through another round of ripping/transcoding my discs to shave a few TB off the storage needs, for new stuff this'll be great though. And all those little hardware devices currently being sold to watch things on or from the internet? Obsolete, all of them, bwahahahaha.

/yah I know the better ones can just update their software
//you hope!


Funny thing.... One of friends I obsessed with players, buying one after another year after year... I keep telling him to just get a computer, but his reasons: 1) no money... He doesn't get that he's already spent 3 times that amount. 2) too big, like to carry it around for when he goes visit family... Doesn't get that he could just get a tablet or similar with a video output, plus that he barely does this anyways, or that if he's visiting family, maybe watching 5TB of videos shouldn't be a priority?

So yeah, hate to be mean, but I hope so ...
 
2013-01-27 07:41:05 PM  

Dinjiin: BumpInTheNight: And all those little hardware devices currently being sold to watch things on or from the internet?

This is why I use a PC as my HTPC.  Just need to upgrade to a new version of XMBC or MPC when H.265 becomes common.

On the non-PC front, I hope that we'll get a new version of ATSC here in North America that uses H.265 soon.  I'm tired of the fact that Brazil has had a better TV format than the US for the majority of the past 40 years (first PAL-M vs. NTSC-M, then ISDB-Tb vs. ATSC).  Oh, and include 64QAM/4PSK-COFDM in addition to 8VSB for low power intra-city SFN repeaters where multipath is a huge issue.  Or fark, go for broke and bump up to 16VSB and 256QAM for OTA.




i580.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-27 07:43:27 PM  

YodaBlues: DarthBart: Oh great. Another codec of the week for the torrent basement jockeys to use. Download a file and roll th dice to see what combination of avi, mp4, xvid, divx, mkv, ogg, or other acronym they're using this month.

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.


Doesn't see a problem.


If I wanted to watch them on my PC, sure. I watch things via my ps3 and it is very picky about codecs and containers. The dlna server I use has support for on-the-fly transcoding but the server it runs on isn't fast enough for it.
 
2013-01-27 07:50:14 PM  

Dinjiin: BumpInTheNight: And all those little hardware devices currently being sold to watch things on or from the internet?

This is why I use a PC as my HTPC.  Just need to upgrade to a new version of XMBC XBMC or MPC when H.265 becomes common.

On the non-PC front, I hope that we'll get a new version of ATSC here in North America that uses H.265 soon.  I'm tired of the fact that Brazil has had a better TV format than the US for the majority of the past 40 years (first PAL-M vs. NTSC-M, then ISDB-Tb vs. ATSC).  Oh, and include 64QAM/4PSK-COFDM in addition to 8VSB for low power intra-city SFN repeaters where multipath is a huge issue.  Or fark, go for broke and bump up to 16VSB and 256QAM for OTA.



FTFY
XBMC is awesome. Movie Quiz on it is too, needs multiplayer.
 
2013-01-27 07:57:00 PM  

The Man Who Laughs: DarthBart: Oh great. Another codec of the week for the torrent basement jockeys to use. Download a file and roll th dice to see what combination of avi, mp4, xvid, divx, mkv, ogg, or other acronym they're using this month.

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.

If you want a specific format, you can just include it in the search term since all the codecs used are included in the release name.


Normally I do, but sometimes what I'm looking for isn't in a codec that my ps3 likes. And a couple of times as of late, I've grabbed collections of something and it was a mix of file formats.
 
2013-01-27 07:58:32 PM  

YodaBlues: Doesn't see a problem.


encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
/No problem at all.
 
2013-01-27 08:03:14 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-27 08:04:16 PM  

Dinjiin: BumpInTheNight: And all those little hardware devices currently being sold to watch things on or from the internet?

This is why I use a PC as my HTPC.  Just need to upgrade to a new version of XMBC or MPC when H.265 becomes common.

On the non-PC front, I hope that we'll get a new version of ATSC here in North America that uses H.265 soon.  I'm tired of the fact that Brazil has had a better TV format than the US for the majority of the past 40 years (first PAL-M vs. NTSC-M, then ISDB-Tb vs. ATSC).  Oh, and include 64QAM/4PSK-COFDM in addition to 8VSB for low power intra-city SFN repeaters where multipath is a huge issue.  Or fark, go for broke and bump up to 16VSB and 256QAM for OTA.


I uh, recognized about 1/10th of the words in your post :P But I agree I've been using my retired gaming PCs as media boxes for my TVs for a while now. Typically though I'll dump the heavy-lifter hot gamer card for something like a fanless GT520 that's got all the essentials for video playback without the gigantic overhead of the gaming grade hardware.
 
2013-01-27 08:04:40 PM  

YodaBlues:

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.

[images.videolan.org image 300x300]
Doesn't see a problem.


^^^^^^^^^ Came here for this. That biatch will play everything.
 
2013-01-27 08:07:20 PM  

Slaxl: Why is the UN approving codec stuff? Shouldn't they all be off trying to subvert American democra.... oops, I've said too much.


The UN is actually part of a reality show on another planet, and they needed a better format to stream hilarious videos of UN agents seizing private land, guns, and gasoline away from American citizens.
 
2013-01-27 08:07:39 PM  

GWSuperfan: YodaBlues: Doesn't see a problem.

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 260x194]
/No problem at all.


That's funny, since Perian died last year and told everybody to use VLC or MPlayer.

DarthBart: I watch things via my ps3 and it is very picky about codecs and containers.


You can't just stream it from your PC to your PS3? I don't have a PS3, but I do have a little gadget that just mirrors my laptop screen, wirelessly, so I can stream anything over there, including Civ5.

//If framerates matter, I break out the 15' HDMI cable
 
2013-01-27 08:08:31 PM  

DarthBart: YodaBlues: DarthBart: Oh great. Another codec of the week for the torrent basement jockeys to use. Download a file and roll th dice to see what combination of avi, mp4, xvid, divx, mkv, ogg, or other acronym they're using this month.

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.


Doesn't see a problem.

If I wanted to watch them on my PC, sure. I watch things via my ps3 and it is very picky about codecs and containers. The dlna server I use has support for on-the-fly transcoding but the server it runs on isn't fast enough for it.


This is why I kicked my PS3 outta the role and devoted a genuine PC to the task. Between XBMC, VLC player and Firefox you can play pretty much anything from any where, oh and reducing the world by one more Sony product in active use so you know you can sleep better at night too.
 
2013-01-27 08:09:07 PM  
Now can we get the U.N. to ban Windows 8?
 
2013-01-27 08:10:45 PM  
YodaBlues : Doesn't see a problem.

Me either

trac.handbrake.fr
 
2013-01-27 08:17:17 PM  

DarthBart: YodaBlues: DarthBart: Oh great. Another codec of the week for the torrent basement jockeys to use. Download a file and roll th dice to see what combination of avi, mp4, xvid, divx, mkv, ogg, or other acronym they're using this month.

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.


Doesn't see a problem.

If I wanted to watch them on my PC, sure. I watch things via my ps3 and it is very picky about codecs and containers. The dlna server I use has support for on-the-fly transcoding but the server it runs on isn't fast enough for it.


Handbrake it into a PS3 friendly format and carry on.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-27 08:19:16 PM  
Soon we learn who owns the patent on adding 1 to the previous standard number to come up with a new stanard,
 
2013-01-27 08:21:43 PM  
So does this format have full HD quality, at half the current file size? I dont like new codec nonsense either, but if it only uses half the size to for existing quality, seems like a pretty good deal.

Also, does it run on Xbox without file conversion? Just renaming your files as .avi only works half the time it seems.

/Hey you Durango/720 bastards, your grand media vision sucks without a polished (and tabbed) browser, and will suck even harder if you cant include comprehensive codec support this time around
 
2013-01-27 08:30:39 PM  
It can always take half the current bandwidth.

Can it do so and reproduce the same image quality is the question.
 
2013-01-27 08:34:24 PM  

gameshowhost: But seriously - given the same display and same bandwidth, that much more A/V info?... I'll take that fidelity.


I can barely stream from Hulu because my best download speeds are right about the minimum required. And they farked around with their player so I can't just let most of the video load for a while and then start watching it, they seem to have a rolling 20 second.... buffer of video in an attempt to prevent people from down...loading the videos.
 
2013-01-27 08:39:06 PM  

Old enough to know better: YodaBlues:

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.

[images.videolan.org image 300x300]
Doesn't see a problem.

^^^^^^^^^ Came here for this. That biatch will play everything.


It's like, if Red Hot was blood type O (put that stuff on everything), then VLC is blood type AB.

Plus, it's the only media player that I was ever pleased with the playlist setup.
 
2013-01-27 08:40:24 PM  
great now none of my shiat will work
 
2013-01-27 09:18:36 PM  

moothemagiccow: great now none of my shiat will work


I think it's mostly a software thing, however I wouldn't be surprised if chip makers optimize their hardware for the decoding/encoding process. This is called an Application-specific integrated circuit, and Intel's "Quick Sync Video," which supports H.262 and H.264. I don't think this comes into effect when you are watching a DVD, just when you are converting it to another format.
 
2013-01-27 09:22:54 PM  

UsikFark: moothemagiccow: great now none of my shiat will work

I think it's mostly a software thing, however I wouldn't be surprised if chip makers optimize their hardware for the decoding/encoding process. This is called an Application-specific integrated circuit, and Intel's "Quick Sync Video," which supports H.262 and H.264. I don't think this comes into effect when you are watching a DVD, just when you are converting it to another format.


To clarify, intel's quick sync technology is an example of an ASIC. I dropped a couple words. It's like an integrated coprocessor... I'm talking about the 686 prototypes, with the artificial intelligence RISC chip.
 
2013-01-27 09:23:18 PM  
Now if only we could fix this:

d22zlbw5ff7yk5.cloudfront.net
 
2013-01-27 09:24:20 PM  

UsikFark: I'm talking about the 686 prototypes, with the artificial intelligence RISC chip.


Say what now?

www.cnet.com
 
2013-01-27 09:25:26 PM  

DarthBart: YodaBlues: DarthBart: Oh great. Another codec of the week for the torrent basement jockeys to use. Download a file and roll th dice to see what combination of avi, mp4, xvid, divx, mkv, ogg, or other acronym they're using this month.

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.


Doesn't see a problem.

If I wanted to watch them on my PC, sure. I watch things via my ps3 and it is very picky about codecs and containers. The dlna server I use has support for on-the-fly transcoding but the server it runs on isn't fast enough for it.


That's why I gave up on using an extender device like the PS3/Xbox or WD Live for streaming/watching downloaded videos. Either the codecs I was downloading were unsupported or the interface was a biatch to quickly navigate or I'd get audio/video sync problems etc etc. Last time I upgraded my gaming rig, just held onto my old hardware and turned it into the media server for the house plugged directly into the my HDTV. It's kind of a waste in some ways, but I works without fail for everything I throw at it. If you have a laptop, it's even easier, just go from the DVI/HDMI out to the tv.
 
2013-01-27 09:27:13 PM  

linemanbear: Does this mean I can drop to a cheaper data plan on my phone?


Data plan rates will probably double because of this update.
 
2013-01-27 09:27:17 PM  

tgambitg: Now if only we could fix this:

[d22zlbw5ff7yk5.cloudfront.net image 425x343]


OH FARKING GOD, THIS!!!

I have 25Mbps FiOS at home and it seems like every other damn YouTube video will not load.

YouTube is the RealPlayer of this generation.
 
2013-01-27 09:40:34 PM  

YodaBlues: tgambitg: Now if only we could fix this:

[d22zlbw5ff7yk5.cloudfront.net image 425x343]

OH FARKING GOD, THIS!!!

I have 25Mbps FiOS at home and it seems like every other damn YouTube video will not load.

YouTube is the RealPlayer of this generation.


What kind of computer do you have? Also you can try youtube as HTML5, Link
 
2013-01-27 09:55:11 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Neat but I'm not going to go through another round of ripping/transcoding my discs to shave a few TB off the storage needs, for new stuff this'll be great though. And all those little hardware devices currently being sold to watch things on or from the internet? Obsolete, all of them, bwahahahaha.

/yah I know the better ones can just update their software
//you hope!


Meh, my Roku was less than $100. At that price it's nearly disposable. My server OTOH, is much more expensive. Fortunately a software download will let me play / transcode the video.
 
2013-01-27 10:00:48 PM  
x264 is what I've seen popularized as of late, not sure about a reduction of half that file size.

x264 is pretty damn nice, imo.
 
2013-01-27 10:03:59 PM  

Slaxl: Why is the UN approving codec stuff? Shouldn't they all be off trying to subvert American democra.... oops, I've said too much.

Really though, why UN? Just let the internet decide what it likes.


It isn't really about "use H.265 for websites," but more along the lines of "This is what H.265 actually is," so various parties have a standard to design for. Seeing as how it can be used for everything from broadcasting to video calling, The UN is a good place for this standard to come from. It's not the only place, but it is just as good as any.
 
2013-01-27 10:08:09 PM  

UsikFark: YodaBlues: tgambitg: Now if only we could fix this:

[d22zlbw5ff7yk5.cloudfront.net image 425x343]

OH FARKING GOD, THIS!!!

I have 25Mbps FiOS at home and it seems like every other damn YouTube video will not load.

YouTube is the RealPlayer of this generation.

What kind of computer do you have? Also you can try youtube as HTML5, Link


A good one. :-) I'm a software developer and a gamer, so my PC specs are good enough. YouTube buffer problems are pervasive regardless of whether I'm on my htpc or gaming/Dev rig, home network or at work, nexus 7 or phone. It's YouTube, not my computers.

Chrome is my main browser and I'm already using Html5, but it persists with flash as well. Trust me, I know how to test for these things, YouTube's streaming has gone down the shiatter the last few years.
 
2013-01-27 10:15:33 PM  

YodaBlues: YouTube's streaming has gone down the shiatter the last few years.


This. I do believe they've got a "smart" system on their end that undercuts your bandwidth based on a simple test(which if tested during an unfortunate traffic spike it pretty much doesn't buffer at all), or just stops a video loading if you have it paused for X amount of time.(I tend to pause and then do other stuff to circumvent buffer issues, but they coded around that technique)
 
2013-01-27 10:15:53 PM  

YodaBlues: Chrome is my main browser and I'm already using Html5, but it persists with flash as well. Trust me, I know how to test for these things, YouTube's streaming has gone down the shiatter the last few years.


I'm running into the same stuff. YouTube goes through these phases of suck and rebound. Hilariously, according to YouTube's speed tester, my bandwidth is insanely good. They just can't buffer a goddamn video to save their lives. HTML5 and Flash (though Flash tends to stutter, but that's because Flash sucks ass).
 
2013-01-27 10:18:07 PM  

omeganuepsilon: I do believe they've got


That's phrased badly. It's almost as if they've got*
 
2013-01-27 10:18:21 PM  

YodaBlues: UsikFark: YodaBlues: tgambitg: Now if only we could fix this:

[d22zlbw5ff7yk5.cloudfront.net image 425x343]

OH FARKING GOD, THIS!!!

I have 25Mbps FiOS at home and it seems like every other damn YouTube video will not load.

YouTube is the RealPlayer of this generation.

What kind of computer do you have? Also you can try youtube as HTML5, Link

A good one. :-) I'm a software developer and a gamer, so my PC specs are good enough. YouTube buffer problems are pervasive regardless of whether I'm on my htpc or gaming/Dev rig, home network or at work, nexus 7 or phone. It's YouTube, not my computers.

Chrome is my main browser and I'm already using Html5, but it persists with flash as well. Trust me, I know how to test for these things, YouTube's streaming has gone down the shiatter the last few years.


Not to sound obtuse, but sure your router ain't taking a steamy shiat on your streaming activities? I just say that because at least in my region the streaming is stellar and consistent.
 
2013-01-27 10:20:51 PM  

omeganuepsilon:

This. I do believe they've got a "smart" system on their end that undercuts your bandwidth based on a simple test(which if tested during an unfortunate traffic spike it pretty much doesn't buffer at all), or just stops a video loading if you have it paused for X amount of time.(I tend to pause and then do other stuff to circumvent buffer issues, but they coded around that technique)


NetFlix does this too, only buffers so much. Makes sense, keeps people from streaming video data if they are actively watching it.

t3knomanser: I'm running into the same stuff. YouTube goes through these phases of suck and rebound. Hilariously, according to YouTube's speed tester, my bandwidth is insanely good. They just can't buffer a goddamn video to save their lives. HTML5 and Flash (though Flash tends to stutter, but that's because Flash sucks ass).


Yep, run into this shiat all the time. Even better is when it sits there spinning the loading icon despite the fact the video is already fully streamed.
 
2013-01-27 10:20:59 PM  

BumpInTheNight: I just say that because at least in my region the streaming is stellar and consistent.


YouTube uses edge caching CDNs. Long story short: depending on where you live, you might have wildly different performance. Also, if you watch a lot of junk that isn't what's popular in your area, it won't be on the local CDN.

My personal experience: every streaming site works great, in full HD, but YouTube.
 
2013-01-27 10:23:45 PM  

t3knomanser: BumpInTheNight: I just say that because at least in my region the streaming is stellar and consistent.

YouTube uses edge caching CDNs. Long story short: depending on where you live, you might have wildly different performance. Also, if you watch a lot of junk that isn't what's popular in your area, it won't be on the local CDN.

My personal experience: every streaming site works great, in full HD, but YouTube.


Maybe it's related to Yoda living in Canada.
 
2013-01-27 10:25:12 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Not to sound obtuse, but sure your router ain't taking a steamy shiat on your streaming activities? I just say that because at least in my region the streaming is stellar and consistent.


Yes, it's not my router, it's definitely YouTube. Happens regardless of what network I'm on, or where I'm at, work or home. You can run into one of these skippy videos and sometimes change the quality to lower or even HD and suddenly the load will load crazy fast. It has something to do with their initialization speed tests.
 
2013-01-27 10:26:28 PM  

UsikFark: t3knomanser: BumpInTheNight: I just say that because at least in my region the streaming is stellar and consistent.

YouTube uses edge caching CDNs. Long story short: depending on where you live, you might have wildly different performance. Also, if you watch a lot of junk that isn't what's popular in your area, it won't be on the local CDN.

My personal experience: every streaming site works great, in full HD, but YouTube.

Maybe it's related to Yoda living in Canada.


LOLWUT? I live in Buffalo and stop stalking me.

:-D
 
2013-01-27 10:28:32 PM  

t3knomanser:

My personal experience: every streaming site works great, in full HD, but YouTube.


Yep, it's the only site I've consistently run into problems with. Can stream Netflix HD and Amazon Prime HD without issue for the most part, but YouTube is generally a crapshoot. Used to live in the Poconos, PA and was on 10Mbps cable and still had problems, but that was a few years ago.
 
2013-01-27 10:28:57 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Not to sound obtuse, but sure your router ain't taking a steamy shiat on your streaming activities? I just say that because at least in my region the streaming is stellar and consistent.


While that is always a possibility, many big name sites perform throttles for seemingly arbitrary reasons. Can't say I'm knowledgable at all, but I've seen it on a number of different routers, even different ISP's(resident free tech guy in my family, so I get around). Sometimes when you connect you just get a shiatty download speed. Don't know if they're actually detecting your connection and relegating you to a low priority slot or what.

Just about any given person has seen this. Get an update from microsoft(or download from wherever), and it's inexplicably downloading at 35k, instead of the 300k you will typically get when maxed.(numbers are just a sample from my home connection, stupid rural DSL)
 
2013-01-27 10:29:18 PM  

UsikFark: t3knomanser: BumpInTheNight: I just say that because at least in my region the streaming is stellar and consistent.

YouTube uses edge caching CDNs. Long story short: depending on where you live, you might have wildly different performance. Also, if you watch a lot of junk that isn't what's popular in your area, it won't be on the local CDN.

My personal experience: every streaming site works great, in full HD, but YouTube.

Maybe it's related to Yoda living in Canada.


Yah man, I'm the canuck not Yoda. :P
 
2013-01-27 10:39:00 PM  

Dinjiin: BumpInTheNight: And all those little hardware devices currently being sold to watch things on or from the internet?

This is why I use a PC as my HTPC.  Just need to upgrade to a new version of XMBC or MPC when H.265 becomes common.

On the non-PC front, I hope that we'll get a new version of ATSC here in North America that uses H.265 soon.  I'm tired of the fact that Brazil has had a better TV format than the US for the majority of the past 40 years (first PAL-M vs. NTSC-M, then ISDB-Tb vs. ATSC).  Oh, and include 64QAM/4PSK-COFDM in addition to 8VSB for low power intra-city SFN repeaters where multipath is a huge issue.  Or fark, go for broke and bump up to 16VSB and 256QAM for OTA.


If adopted, it could likely change the availability of quality streaming content. A 35% reduction in bit rate is significant, along that it apparently supports UHDTV. It is also interesting that it completely replaces macroblock encoding using larger CTB, which I would think would look completely different at low rez than H.264/MPEG4 vid/images
 
2013-01-27 10:51:13 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Neat but I'm not going to go through another round of ripping/transcoding my discs to shave a few TB off the storage needs, for new stuff this'll be great though. And all those little hardware devices currently being sold to watch things on or from the internet? Obsolete, all of them, bwahahahaha.

/yah I know the better ones can just update their software
//you hope!


For things like cell phones and tablets, the chipset has DSPs that are hardware optimized for certain codecs. For HD resolution video, the ARM CPUs don't have the necessary horsepower to software decode, so you can't simply upgrade the software and get smooth playback. It'll take years until H.265 makes its way into popular ARM based chipsets, although CPU power is growing so rapidly on mobile chips that you might eventually see some third party aps that can software decode acceptably fast.
 
2013-01-27 11:05:35 PM  
I work in VoIP/SIP, and if the new spec really uses half the bandwidth it's going to be massive for us, especially as an offset to growing data volume on crowded mobile networks internationally.
 
2013-01-28 12:12:25 AM  
I think mad is the first to bring this up... what is the CPU processing needed compared to 264? The article really sucks as it says squat. However if I had to guess anything, the brunt of 265's magic will be in using 10 bit video instead of 8 bit. Currently it has been a fad of the fansub society to use a new feature of newer h264 codecs that allow for 10 bit encoding. I wouldn't say it allows you to cut the file size in half but most fansubs have been using it to offer much smaller versions of episodes, with 12 episodes peaking just over 1gb. There is a slight hit to quality over standard 300ish megabyte episodes, but it is a version released for those that prefer smaller downloads vs max quality.

It could be interesting though if it contains other optimizations that require as much of a cpu upgrade as 264 did vs old mpeg4. Good news is I would be pretty sure both xbox and ps3 could handle it. 3ghz multi threaded cpus is overkill for 264 so I am sure a 265 upgrade is no problem. As far as phones go... my guess is we will see multi threaded codecs designed for the quad core phones. MX player will probably be the first to do it.
 
2013-01-28 12:18:14 AM  

JeffMD: As far as phones go... my guess is we will see multi threaded codecs designed for the quad core phones. MX player will probably be the first to do it.


Phones and tabets won't really be an issue. By the time this is widely rolled out, there will be DSPs that can do decoding and encoding on the fly built into the chipsets lie there is or H.264 currently. Even general purpose computers will have acceleration built into the GPU eventually (even low-end integrated GPUs like the Intel HD4000 have hardware accelerated H.264 decode these days).
 
2013-01-28 12:34:44 AM  
YodaBlues : I have 25Mbps FiOS

Isn't the point of FIOS to have blazing speeds? At 25 mbps why even go through the hassle? Do the local cable companies suck?

25 mbps is what I get through my cable connection, if I were to go through the trouble of getting FIOS, I would go for the biggest I could get (75) without needing an optical terminator.

// BTW, I don't have trouble on youtube with my 25 mbps.

www.speedtest.net
 
2013-01-28 01:34:28 AM  

YodaBlues: DarthBart: YodaBlues: DarthBart: Oh great. Another codec of the week for the torrent basement jockeys to use. Download a file and roll th dice to see what combination of avi, mp4, xvid, divx, mkv, ogg, or other acronym they're using this month.

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.


Doesn't see a problem.

If I wanted to watch them on my PC, sure. I watch things via my ps3 and it is very picky about codecs and containers. The dlna server I use has support for on-the-fly transcoding but the server it runs on isn't fast enough for it.

That's why I gave up on using an extender device like the PS3/Xbox or WD Live for streaming/watching downloaded videos. Either the codecs I was downloading were unsupported or the interface was a biatch to quickly navigate or I'd get audio/video sync problems etc etc. Last time I upgraded my gaming rig, just held onto my old hardware and turned it into the media server for the house plugged directly into the my HDTV. It's kind of a waste in some ways, but I works without fail for everything I throw at it. If you have a laptop, it's even easier, just go from the DVI/HDMI out to the tv.


Why don't you just use "Ps3 media server"? It transcodes any file format into a ps3 compatible format on the fly
 
2013-01-28 01:41:34 AM  

SleepingEye: YodaBlues: DarthBart: YodaBlues: DarthBart: Oh great. Another codec of the week for the torrent basement jockeys to use. Download a file and roll th dice to see what combination of avi, mp4, xvid, divx, mkv, ogg, or other acronym they're using this month.

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.


Doesn't see a problem.

If I wanted to watch them on my PC, sure. I watch things via my ps3 and it is very picky about codecs and containers. The dlna server I use has support for on-the-fly transcoding but the server it runs on isn't fast enough for it.

That's why I gave up on using an extender device like the PS3/Xbox or WD Live for streaming/watching downloaded videos. Either the codecs I was downloading were unsupported or the interface was a biatch to quickly navigate or I'd get audio/video sync problems etc etc. Last time I upgraded my gaming rig, just held onto my old hardware and turned it into the media server for the house plugged directly into the my HDTV. It's kind of a waste in some ways, but I works without fail for everything I throw at it. If you have a laptop, it's even easier, just go from the DVI/HDMI out to the tv.

Why don't you just use "Ps3 media server"? It transcodes any file format into a ps3 compatible format on the fly


Hmmm, if only I could.
 
2013-01-28 02:01:56 AM  
Computer words!
 
2013-01-28 02:25:38 AM  

DarthBart: YodaBlues: DarthBart: Oh great. Another codec of the week for the torrent basement jockeys to use. Download a file and roll th dice to see what combination of avi, mp4, xvid, divx, mkv, ogg, or other acronym they're using this month.

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.


Doesn't see a problem.

If I wanted to watch them on my PC, sure. I watch things via my ps3 and it is very picky about codecs and containers. The dlna server I use has support for on-the-fly transcoding but the server it runs on isn't fast enough for it.


You're upset that your 6 year old console can't play the latest videos? I suggest you pick up a Raspberry Pi and a case for it; all the video decoding you need.
 
2013-01-28 02:40:03 AM  

mactobain: along that it apparently supports UHDTV


Most codecs support UHDTV.   Both MPEG4 part 2 (DivX/Xdiv) and MPEG4 part 10 (H.264) officially support 3840×2160 at decode level 5.  MPEG2 part 2 (H.262) probably has no problems with that resolution, either.

Big question is if you'd want to.  H.265 can supposedly encode the same quality with 35% less bandwidth than H.264, 63% less bandwidth than MP4p2 and 70% less bandwidth than H.262 (src).

If those numbers are true, that's a huge gain in performance. Instead of having one HD + one SD subchannel like we usually have today, you could probably get away with three HD subchannels. If they used a more efficient D/A -> A/D (digital-to-analog-to-digital) technique like 12VSB (29Mbps) or 16VSB (38Mbps) instead of 8VSB (19Mbps), you could fit five or six HD subchannels or one UHD + one HD subchannel.
 
2013-01-28 02:53:59 AM  

LavenderWolf: DarthBart: YodaBlues: DarthBart: Oh great. Another codec of the week for the torrent basement jockeys to use. Download a file and roll th dice to see what combination of avi, mp4, xvid, divx, mkv, ogg, or other acronym they're using this month.

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.


Doesn't see a problem.

If I wanted to watch them on my PC, sure. I watch things via my ps3 and it is very picky about codecs and containers. The dlna server I use has support for on-the-fly transcoding but the server it runs on isn't fast enough for it.

You're upset that your 6 year old console can't play the latest videos? I suggest you pick up a Raspberry Pi and a case for it; all the video decoding you need.


You're assuming I want another box in my entertainment center. Then I have to control it somehow, preferably by using my Logitech harmony remote. Then I'd need an hdmi switch since my tv has only one hdmi port. And that would have to be remotely controllably
 
2013-01-28 04:20:12 AM  

YodaBlues: If you have a laptop, it's even easier, just go from the DVI/HDMI out to the tv.


xtupload.com

>2013
>not streaming video wirelessly directly from your laptop to your hdtv
shiggity diggity
 
2013-01-28 05:40:54 AM  

SleepingEye: Why don't you just use "Ps3 media server"? It transcodes any file format into a ps3 compatible format on the fly


Any? Most, it can transcode most files into something friendly to the PS3. Unfortunately its always the ones you want to watch that it can't seem to figure out how to negotiate. Nope, fark Sony.
 
2013-01-28 06:04:13 AM  
As a rule the gains that were made will be eaten up almost immediately by users who will use that increased bandwidth capacity for other things. So, while this is cool, it won't make much difference except that it will prompt the ISPs to charge more for their service on the premise that people are using more bandwidth than they deem necessary.
 
2013-01-28 06:10:55 AM  

LavenderWolf: DarthBart: YodaBlues: DarthBart: Oh great. Another codec of the week for the torrent basement jockeys to use. Download a file and roll th dice to see what combination of avi, mp4, xvid, divx, mkv, ogg, or other acronym they're using this month.

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.


Doesn't see a problem.

If I wanted to watch them on my PC, sure. I watch things via my ps3 and it is very picky about codecs and containers. The dlna server I use has support for on-the-fly transcoding but the server it runs on isn't fast enough for it.

You're upset that your 6 year old console can't play the latest videos? I suggest you pick up a Raspberry Pi and a case for it; all the video decoding you need.


Except for M2TS
Had to mention that. I do love my Pi but I do see it's limitations. It isn't quite as snappy in skipping etc like a probper PC would be but I don't have to worry ever about a persistent drone of a fan in the background.
 
2013-01-28 06:14:06 AM  

DarthBart: LavenderWolf: DarthBart: YodaBlues: DarthBart: Oh great. Another codec of the week for the torrent basement jockeys to use. Download a file and roll th dice to see what combination of avi, mp4, xvid, divx, mkv, ogg, or other acronym they're using this month.

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.


Doesn't see a problem.

If I wanted to watch them on my PC, sure. I watch things via my ps3 and it is very picky about codecs and containers. The dlna server I use has support for on-the-fly transcoding but the server it runs on isn't fast enough for it.

You're upset that your 6 year old console can't play the latest videos? I suggest you pick up a Raspberry Pi and a case for it; all the video decoding you need.

You're assuming I want another box in my entertainment center. Then I have to control it somehow, preferably by using my Logitech harmony remote. Then I'd need an hdmi switch since my tv has only one hdmi port. And that would have to be remotely controllably


All of the flavours of XBMC on PI can be controlled through HDMI using CEC, no remote needed. But yes you would need some kind of hdmi switch (time to upgrade to an HDMI Receiver??)
 
2013-01-28 06:17:41 AM  

lordargent: Isn't the point of FIOS to have blazing speeds? At 25 mbps why even go through the hassle? Do the local cable companies suck?


Two Words: Time Warner.

SleepingEye: Why don't you just use "Ps3 media server"? It transcodes any file format into a ps3 compatible format on the fly


Sold my PS3 years ago. Even if I still had it, I never liked the interface for browsing and watching videos (I have 2 1TB drives of stuff) and while PS3 media server is neat, it doesn't work for every codec. Plus it would require me to either keep my the videos on my gaming rig or still maintain a separate media server. Just simpler to make a media server out of old hardware I already had after upgrading and connect it directly to my HDTV. I get the added benefit of being able to play PC games on my big screen when I choose as well.
 
2013-01-28 07:52:04 AM  

imfallen_angel: he's visiting family, maybe watching 5TB of videos shouldn't be a priority?


Visiting my family it is. It really, really is.
 
2013-01-28 08:08:35 AM  
So where do you hook the little tinfoil flags to get the reception to come in better?
 
2013-01-28 08:35:35 AM  

tgambitg: Now if only we could fix this:

[d22zlbw5ff7yk5.cloudfront.net image 425x343]


Yep. Came in here to say this. God damn does YouTube suck.
 
2013-01-28 09:02:42 AM  
Quite frankly the quality/size ratio for H264 already makes me believe in wizards. I'm going to be skeptical about H265 until I see it in action, particularly with some fast moving content in high contrast. If this really is the best thing since sliced bread, it'll make my job easier, which is good.
 
2013-01-28 10:56:03 AM  
Coming soon: ISPs cut their existing bandwidth caps in half.
 
2013-01-28 11:22:01 AM  
H.264 H.265, whatever it takes...
 
2013-01-28 12:45:01 PM  
YodaBlues: Time Warner.

Ahh, enough said.
 
2013-01-28 01:31:06 PM  

Mad_Radhu: JeffMD: As far as phones go... my guess is we will see multi threaded codecs designed for the quad core phones. MX player will probably be the first to do it.

Phones and tabets won't really be an issue. By the time this is widely rolled out, there will be DSPs that can do decoding and encoding on the fly built into the chipsets lie there is or H.264 currently. Even general purpose computers will have acceleration built into the GPU eventually (even low-end integrated GPUs like the Intel HD4000 have hardware accelerated H.264 decode these days).


As soon as the 265 codec is available, anime fansubs and movie pirates will be the first to utilize it and the effect will be immediate. Thanks to the wide acceptance and use of good containers like mp4 and mkv (When h264 was finally rolling out, it struggled with users sticking by their trusted .avi container and CPUs not powerful enough to decode it) we won't even need to update our players. We just need to install the codec, or a new version of FFDshow, and out current players will handle it no problem.

We won't see hardware DSP decoders for phones (that would of course, require buying a new phone) until almost a year after, and I am sure the first rounds of decoder chips will not be dirt cheap like todays 264 chips are. Soooo most phone A/V users will probably be using software decoding first.
 
2013-01-28 02:07:53 PM  
This is great but won't really make a huge difference to me or many other HTPC users.

My current home setup consists of one desktop that is extremely powerful, running two monitors and connected to my home theater via an HDMI and an optical audio cord (this is due to a lack of any HDMI input on my older receiver) running XBMC on the TV. My office is on the other side of of the wall from my living room so I have no need for a separate HTPC yet. Even if I did I still only watch my media in the living room so if I was having issues with streaming the content my first solution would to to re-locate all my storage drives to my HTPC. This will only really make a huge difference for people with multiple HTPCS and a slow network. If you have enough money to have multiple HD displays and multiple HTPCs you should have enough money for more HDD storage and better network infrastructure as both of those things combined are cheaper than one HTPC or one HDTV.

Oh yeah and pirates too, they'll like it a lot.
 
2013-01-28 03:04:43 PM  

UsikFark: moothemagiccow: great now none of my shiat will work

I think it's mostly a software thing, however I wouldn't be surprised if chip makers optimize their hardware for the decoding/encoding process. This is called an Application-specific integrated circuit, and Intel's "Quick Sync Video," which supports H.262 and H.264. I don't think this comes into effect when you are watching a DVD, just when you are converting it to another format.


to clarify now none of my shiat will work when i steal a video off the internet and try to watch it on something other than a desktop with vlc, and even that won't be super-smooth
 
2013-01-28 03:06:37 PM  

DarthBart: Oh great. Another codec of the week for the torrent basement jockeys to use. Download a file and roll th dice to see what combination of avi, mp4, xvid, divx, mkv, ogg, or other acronym they're using this month.

And yes I know some of those are containers rather than codecs.


on second thoughts, this
 
2013-01-28 05:23:42 PM  
Something else my so called Smart TV probably won't play. I still can't believe it won't play AVI files. Every other format is fine, and I can transcode my avi files to an mkv container and they play just fine so it isn't a codec issue. I guess they were too cheap to license avi from Microsoft or something.

Fortunately next to nothing uses AVI anymore, I just have a lot of older videos.
 
2013-01-28 08:40:32 PM  

tgambitg: UsikFark: I'm talking about the 686 prototypes, with the artificial intelligence RISC chip.

Say what now?

[www.cnet.com image 600x366]


Why does that look like some weird alternate-universe version of Red Dwarf?
 
2013-01-28 08:44:05 PM  

YodaBlues: YouTube's streaming has gone down the shiatter the last few years.


VLC will play the .flv files just fine, and there are plenty of programs that will download them for you. GreenTree's standalone application is my favorite.
 
2013-01-28 08:49:53 PM  

Mister Peejay: Why does that look like some weird alternate-universe version of Red Dwarf?


There's a cat in the picture.
 
2013-01-28 08:59:19 PM  

Mister Peejay: YodaBlues: YouTube's streaming has gone down the shiatter the last few years.

VLC will play the .flv files just fine, and there are plenty of programs that will download them for you. GreenTree's standalone application is my favorite.


First, if YouTube is incapable of streaming without constant buffering, how successful do you think direct downloading will be?

Second, I know VLC's codec support, but being forced to download a video in it's entirety instead of streaming kind of defeats the purpose don't you think?
 
2013-01-28 09:09:26 PM  

t3knomanser: GWSuperfan: YodaBlues: Doesn't see a problem.

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 260x194]
/No problem at all.

That's funny, since Perian died last year and told everybody to use VLC or MPlayer.

DarthBart: I watch things via my ps3 and it is very picky about codecs and containers.

You can't just stream it from your PC to your PS3? I don't have a PS3, but I do have a little gadget that just mirrors my laptop screen, wirelessly, so I can stream anything over there, including Civ5.

//If framerates matter, I break out the 15' HDMI cable


And VLC is on Android. Although it appears to be a client to stream to from the desktop VLC. Go it installed but haven't messed with it yet.
 
2013-01-28 09:22:14 PM  

YodaBlues: First, if YouTube is incapable of streaming without constant buffering, how successful do you think direct downloading will be?


My download speeds peak at just over 1MB/s. (ph33r my skillz)

I can't stream a 480p video, but I can download a 720p video in less time than it would take to actually watch it. I don't question it, I just roll with it.
 
2013-01-29 09:16:55 AM  
Sweet, which means that in ... 2017, all the TV stations I distribute to will finally support H.264!
 
2013-01-29 06:37:23 PM  

DarthBart: Normally I do, but sometimes what I'm looking for isn't in a codec that my ps3 likes. And a couple of times as of late, I've grabbed collections of something and it was a mix of file formats.If I wanted to watch them on my PC, sure. I watch things via my ps3 and it is very picky about codecs and containers. The dlna server I use has support for on-the-fly transcoding but the server it runs on isn't fast enough for it.


All a'y'all worried about PS3 compatibility are SERIOUSLY missing out. Behold, your grail:

http://www.ps3mediaserver.org/
 
2013-01-29 06:50:40 PM  

Scrotastic Method: DarthBart: Normally I do, but sometimes what I'm looking for isn't in a codec that my ps3 likes. And a couple of times as of late, I've grabbed collections of something and it was a mix of file formats.If I wanted to watch them on my PC, sure. I watch things via my ps3 and it is very picky about codecs and containers. The dlna server I use has support for on-the-fly transcoding but the server it runs on isn't fast enough for it.

All a'y'all worried about PS3 compatibility are SERIOUSLY missing out. Behold, your grail:

http://www.ps3mediaserver.org/


That's what I use.
 
2013-01-29 07:42:04 PM  

DarthBart: Scrotastic Method: DarthBart: Normally I do, but sometimes what I'm looking for isn't in a codec that my ps3 likes. And a couple of times as of late, I've grabbed collections of something and it was a mix of file formats.If I wanted to watch them on my PC, sure. I watch things via my ps3 and it is very picky about codecs and containers. The dlna server I use has support for on-the-fly transcoding but the server it runs on isn't fast enough for it.

All a'y'all worried about PS3 compatibility are SERIOUSLY missing out. Behold, your grail:

http://www.ps3mediaserver.org/

That's what I use.


Oh, then the problem isn't "a codec your PS3 likes," it's a file that PS3 Media Server can't transcode correctly. If that's what's happening, do three things:

-- Make sure your codecs are in order. New stuff, good stuff, etc.

-- Make sure the program is set to default the good stuff to transcode, not some exotic software that's barely ever going to work. Check the PS3MS fforums for the safe bets.

-- If all that fails and a file just won't play, use AviMUX (http://www.alexander-noe.com/video/amg/) to re-encode, which fixes an audio bitrate labeling problem that's usually the culprit...and then use TSMuxer (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR ) to re-encode as a .m2ts file so PS3MS doesn't even have to transcode.

I donwload from all kinds of dark corners of the internet, and with the three steps above, I think the only stuff I've never been able to get working are old .flvs of HBO's Hard Knocks. Even the crankiest Blu-ray rips come into line when you re-encode the MKV with AviMux and then put it into a .m2ts.
 
2013-01-29 08:08:32 PM  

Scrotastic Method: I think the only stuff I've never been able to get working are old .flvs


IIRC there was a version of virtual dub that supported decoding and re-encoding flv's to a more usable avi, for what it's worth.


I've been busy working, but I meant to ask in this thread.

I have used nothing but CCCP for a while, and mostly there isn't a problem, but some of my files don't like skipping ahead when I click on the progress bar. I was wondering anyone has a lead another codec pack, or if VLC has it's own library.(IE so i wouldn't have to uninstall cccp and can use for the videos it does work on)
(working on the road so i can even test this on my primary machine on the video's i know have the problem)

I can give up using the old school Media Player, but I've grown to like it(mouse wheel volume, double click full screen, and how to edit the sync for videos that are off) so I'd rather avoid if at all possible.

/or possibly if the setting is something I can fix
//only asking cause it seems there are a lot of people here smarter and more informed than me
 
2013-01-29 08:32:02 PM  

Scrotastic Method: DarthBart: Scrotastic Method: DarthBart: Normally I do, but sometimes what I'm looking for isn't in a codec that my ps3 likes. And a couple of times as of late, I've grabbed collections of something and it was a mix of file formats.If I wanted to watch them on my PC, sure. I watch things via my ps3 and it is very picky about codecs and containers. The dlna server I use has support for on-the-fly transcoding but the server it runs on isn't fast enough for it.

All a'y'all worried about PS3 compatibility are SERIOUSLY missing out. Behold, your grail:

http://www.ps3mediaserver.org/

That's what I use.

Oh, then the problem isn't "a codec your PS3 likes," it's a file that PS3 Media Server can't transcode correctly. If that's what's happening, do three things:

-- Make sure your codecs are in order. New stuff, good stuff, etc.

-- Make sure the program is set to default the good stuff to transcode, not some exotic software that's barely ever going to work. Check the PS3MS fforums for the safe bets.

-- If all that fails and a file just won't play, use AviMUX (http://www.alexander-noe.com/video/amg/) to re-encode, which fixes an audio bitrate labeling problem that's usually the culprit...and then use TSMuxer (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR ) to re-encode as a .m2ts file so PS3MS doesn't even have to transcode.

I donwload from all kinds of dark corners of the internet, and with the three steps above, I think the only stuff I've never been able to get working are old .flvs of HBO's Hard Knocks. Even the crankiest Blu-ray rips come into line when you re-encode the MKV with AviMux and then put it into a .m2ts.


No, it's that unless I find a file that the ps3 likes natively, it has to transcode with mencoder and my server isn't fast enough to do that in realtime.
 
2013-01-29 09:40:54 PM  

DarthBart: No, it's that unless I find a file that the ps3 likes natively, it has to transcode with mencoder and my server isn't fast enough to do that in realtime.


When I first discovered PS3MS I was still running a dual-core Athlon because I don't game so why not. Not long after, I had a six-core 3.3ghz black edition and 12GB RAM. Because 1080p :)

You could always use AVIMux and tsMuxer as a I describe above, turn all your .mkvs into .m2ts files, and then Mencoder is irrelevant -- the PS3 does .m2ts natively so the server won't be the problem. That process takes about 5 minutes (longer with a slower proc) and doesn't always accept every file, but that could help you out. Here's directions...but I use AVIMux first because most files have an "unknown" audio bitrate and that can cause errors, and AVIMux "puts that info in" or whatever the hell is correct language there.

http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/how_to_play_mkv_content_on_p la ystation_3_ps3.cfm
 
2013-01-30 02:01:02 AM  
Check out my sweet codec example below:

Look at that! That's the entire stream of Firefly s1e1 reduced to one single bit...

...it's in the 1 state, of course.
 
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