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(Sports Illustrated)   The Celtics' Rajon Rondo has torn his ACL. That ends the new big three era   (nba.si.com) divider line 34
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2013-01-27 05:44:20 PM  
New Big 3 era?
 
2013-01-27 05:45:08 PM  
Not sure what the headline's referring to, but that's too bad.
 
2013-01-27 05:52:23 PM  
In other news, Kobe apparently can do whatever he wants and never get a foul called against him. They seriously didn't see him blatantly hit Durant over the head? Now Westbrook just got fouled on a dunk and no call. Bonus- Westbrook gets a tech. NBA is so rigged its ridiculous.... Go away Stern
 
2013-01-27 05:53:01 PM  
Southcoast Boutique is having a fire sale!
 
2013-01-27 05:53:38 PM  

robsul82: Not sure what the headline's referring to, but that's too bad.


I'm trying to think who the old 3 would be referenced. Now it is usually PP, KG, RA as the Big 3 with Rondo as 4 with the new Big 3 as LBJ, DW, and Ostrich
 
2013-01-27 06:02:41 PM  
Rubio, Rose, now Rondo. Those ACLs have not been kind to quick speedy PGs.
 
2013-01-27 06:05:15 PM  

pjlawrence81: Rubio, Rose, now Rondo. Those ACLs have not been kind to quick speedy PGs.


They cut and change directioin at such incredible angles with crazy speed I'm surprised it's not more common. Evolutionarily speaking, humans simply weren't made to be able to do that naturally.
 
2013-01-27 06:21:31 PM  
Too bad. Other than JaVale, Rondo is one of the few really watchable NBA players.
 
2013-01-27 06:21:39 PM  
Oh darn, Captain Celtic Foul tore his ACL. Boo hoo.
 
2013-01-27 06:30:06 PM  
Damn. I wouldn't wish that injury on anyone. Unless they're on the Celtics. Or the Heat. And possibly the Knicks.

So I'm OK with this!
 
2013-01-27 06:38:41 PM  
Even if the Celtics somehow magically make the playoffs (now very much in doubt), they'll be out in the first round now.
 
2013-01-27 06:56:14 PM  
Gee, I guess this guy will have to start the All-Star game in his place. What a shame.

Link
 
2013-01-27 07:08:17 PM  

feanorn: Too bad. Other than JaVale, Rondo is one of the few really watchable NBA players.


Mario Chalmers
 
2013-01-27 07:14:12 PM  
Is he now going to bump doctors in the hospital?
 
2013-01-27 07:33:33 PM  

TheManofPA: robsul82: Not sure what the headline's referring to, but that's too bad.

I'm trying to think who the old 3 would be referenced. Now it is usually PP, KG, RA as the Big 3 with Rondo as 4 with the new Big 3 as LBJ, DW, and Ostrich


the first big three was paul, kevin, and ray. then rondo developed and ray left so wouldn't the new big three would be paul, kevin, and rajon, right? and by the time rondo recovers the other two will be retired...
 
2013-01-27 08:08:08 PM  

Mark Ratner: Mario Chalmers


You don't  watch Mario Chalmers.  You sneak peeks at his greatness, for if he makes eye contact, your soul will be his, and the rest, well, no need for it.
 
2013-01-27 08:24:43 PM  

Argyle82: In other news, Kobe apparently can do whatever he wants and never get a foul called against him. They seriously didn't see him blatantly hit Durant over the head? Now Westbrook just got fouled on a dunk and no call. Bonus- Westbrook gets a tech. NBA is so rigged its ridiculous.... Go away Stern


Is Mark Cuban just waiting patiently for his chance to blow the whistle on Stern, or was the Mavericks championship the equivalent of hush money?

Oh, and is there anyone in the Celtics front office with half the basketball acument of Red Auerbach's cigars?
 
2013-01-27 09:01:27 PM  
RIP Celtics season. The good news is that my other team, Anyone But The Lakers, looks to be doing pretty well, their setback tonight notwithstanding.
 
2013-01-27 09:55:08 PM  

Glenechocreek: Gee, I guess this guy will have to start the All-Star game in his place. What a shame.

Link


love me some Kyrie
 
2013-01-28 12:21:01 AM  

Argyle82: In other news, Kobe apparently can do whatever he wants and never get a foul called against him. They seriously didn't see him blatantly hit Durant over the head? Now Westbrook just got fouled on a dunk and no call. Bonus- Westbrook gets a tech. NBA is so rigged its ridiculous.... Go away Stern


Yes, Stern loves the Lakers so much that he didn't let CP3 go there in an insanely lopsided trade for LA. What a fraud.
 
2013-01-28 01:09:32 AM  
It's weird for me to look at Rondo because he looks so much like my former boss, and she's good looking.

Like, I've never had a girlfriend who had a brother who's face reminded me of her.
 
2013-01-28 01:11:34 AM  
Whose. Back off, apostrophe police.
 
2013-01-28 03:53:05 AM  

gtfan92: Argyle82: In other news, Kobe apparently can do whatever he wants and never get a foul called against him. They seriously didn't see him blatantly hit Durant over the head? Now Westbrook just got fouled on a dunk and no call. Bonus- Westbrook gets a tech. NBA is so rigged its ridiculous.... Go away Stern

Yes, Stern loves the Lakers so much that he didn't let CP3 go there in an insanely lopsided trade for LA. What a fraud.


Except the fact that he still went to LA in a lopsided trade.... Ratings, baby, ratings......
 
2013-01-28 05:00:31 AM  
I've never heard of someone tearing an ACL without suspecting something was really wrong. As someone that has torn two, I can attest they tend to sting a bit when they tear.
 
2013-01-28 07:37:19 AM  

pjlawrence81: Rubio, Rose, now Rondo. Those ACLs have not been kind to quick speedy PGs.


Quick speedy guards aren't kind to their ACLs. Some of it's being competitive, but a lot of motion is wasted -- pure wear & tear. I'm not saying they should stop working hard, but coaches should at least get them to stop doing stupid stuff, like landing on one leg. Considering how much an investment these players are, enforcing good habits should be considered a financial no-brainer.

I'm also not convinced that ice is the best treatment for knee injuries. Cold prevents inflammation so an athlete can retain range of motion, which makes sense, but fact remains the tissue is damaged. There's a reason why the human body evolved an inflammatory response. It's a rather crude adaptation that assumes no medical intervention whatsoever, and is counterproductive to muscle development. But the ACL isn't a damned muscle; it's not even soft tissue. It's basically a sort of rope that holds the knee together; it's not meant to be damaged which is why injuring it hurts. The blood needs to be allowed to do its work of hauling away dead tissue and providing nutrients for cell growth, and circulation to the ligaments is poor to begin with. Not everything is a goddamn muscle injury.

Argyle82: They cut and change directioin at such incredible angles with crazy speed I'm surprised it's not more common.


ACL isn't easily damaged by a cut; which is well braced by the LCL and MCL. ACL is in the knee; in non-contact cases it's injured by a twist. I'm speculating but I believe the jumps and feints are worse than the cuts, and it's cumulative. Some athletes drop with torn knees on what look like routine motions; no way the knee gave all at once. When the athlete finally goes down the ligament was already mostly torn by other movements.

Second, it's not so much the athleticism as the equipment -- rubber soles on a dry hardwood floor. Compared to grass there's almost no slip, and knee injuries in basketball are hardly unique to the NBA so athleticism is lacking as an explanation. The times I've seen football players ruin their knees, either A) it was turf, or B) the knee directly took a hit. Not to say it never happens but I haven't witnessed a football player blow out a knee on grass while making a cut. I read up on four basketball players blowing out knees in a league with a lot fewer players than the NFL just last season.

MayoSlather: I've never heard of someone tearing an ACL without suspecting something was really wrong.


Did he say otherwise? If so he was probably already drugged up to deal with a partial tear; pro athletes tend to have very high pain tolerance and little sense of perspective. That said, I can't find anything saying he didn't realize he was injured. The Celtics mis-reported the injury, but whether that's deliberate or not it's insanely common.
 
2013-01-28 08:16:15 AM  

Argyle82: gtfan92: Argyle82: In other news, Kobe apparently can do whatever he wants and never get a foul called against him. They seriously didn't see him blatantly hit Durant over the head? Now Westbrook just got fouled on a dunk and no call. Bonus- Westbrook gets a tech. NBA is so rigged its ridiculous.... Go away Stern

Yes, Stern loves the Lakers so much that he didn't let CP3 go there in an insanely lopsided trade for LA. What a fraud.

Except the fact that he still went to LA in a lopsided trade.... Ratings, baby, ratings......


The trade to the Clippers wasn't lopsided, dumbass.
 
2013-01-28 08:29:22 AM  
I still don't get what people saw in that Lakers CP3 deal for New Orleans? Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, Goran Dragic and Lamar Odom? Odom broke down, and isn't good without a dominate big next to him anyways, so let's see how those players did on the Rockets...

2010: 42-40
2011: 43-39
2012: 34-32

Congrats, New Orleans! You missed out on turning yourselves into the 2000s Golden State Warriors!
 
2013-01-28 10:13:01 AM  

dragonchild: Did he say otherwise? If so he was probably already drugged up to deal with a partial tear; pro athletes tend to have very high pain tolerance and little sense of perspective. That said, I can't find anything saying he didn't realize he was injured. The Celtics mis-reported the injury, but whether that's deliberate or not it's insanely common.


Yeah he said it felt like a hamstring issue, but no big deal. The article is here. I tore mine during basketball as well and I have a pretty high threshold for pain, but it's the kind of pain that makes you want to vomit. It's about a 90 seconds worth of rather severe unmistakeable pain that will drop anyone.

Although I suspect he had a partial tear for a long time and it just finally went all the way without much notice, it's either that or he has a nerve issue.
 
2013-01-28 11:22:40 AM  

dragonchild: Did he say otherwise? If so he was probably already drugged up to deal with a partial tear; pro athletes tend to have very high pain tolerance and little sense of perspective. That said, I can't find anything saying he didn't realize he was injured. The Celtics mis-reported the injury, but whether that's deliberate or not it's insanely common.


He apparently was at the morning workout yesterday until he mentioned that his leg sort of hurt to one of the trainers. After taking a look a look at the leg the trainer realized something was up, scratched Rondo, and sent him to the hospital for an MRI. Apparently no one (including Rondo) had a clue he was even injured until the news came back from the hospital.

It was kind of bizarre because the report came out during the game but no one told the team. The sideline reporter mentioned the ACL tear to Paul Pierce in the postgame interview and he was legitimately shocked.
 
2013-01-28 11:26:15 AM  
Those who think the Celtics are doomed:

They've played the equivalent of half a season without him in his career. They have a winning percentage of .606 without him and .604 with him. And they just beat the defending champions.

/in a game where they were not called for a single foul for the first 13+ minutes of the game
 
2013-01-28 11:40:29 AM  

IAmRight: They've played the equivalent of half a season without him in his career. They have a winning percentage of .606 without him and .604 with him. And they just beat the defending champions.


They also have a losing record. They're doomed but Rondo has little to do with it.

I maintain my belief that the Celtics are just old. Thing is, athletes don't age as smoothly as their year-to-year statistics (and even those may not be all that smooth). Every now and then a 35-year-old can play like a 20-year-old, but eventually age demands its "pound of flesh" and the intensity has to drop. Who knows; after beating the Heat the Celtics may win their next game, maybe even the game after that, but sooner or later they are going to play flat and lose some games, and the older they get the harder it will be to get out of the funk. When the starters log more minutes during the playoffs, the inconsistency will get worse.
 
2013-01-28 01:06:02 PM  
First Big Three: Bird, McHale, Parish
Second Big Three: Pierce, Allen, Garnett
First Big Four, I guess: Pierce, Allen, Garnett, Rondo
Thrid big Three(?): Pierce, Garnett, Rondo

Whatever, sad to see these types of injuries to anyone. when he left the Atlanta game we thought he had a case of the trots, because the flu has been going around and they said they though he was leaving to "use the facilities".
 
2013-01-28 03:43:37 PM  

dragonchild: I maintain my belief that the Celtics are just old. Thing is, athletes don't age as smoothly as their year-to-year statistics (and even those may not be all that smooth). Every now and then a 35-year-old can play like a 20-year-old, but eventually age demands its "pound of flesh" and the intensity has to drop. Who knows; after beating the Heat the Celtics may win their next game, maybe even the game after that, but sooner or later they are going to play flat and lose some games, and the older they get the harder it will be to get out of the funk. When the starters log more minutes during the playoffs, the inconsistency will get worse.


IMO they play better defense without Rondo's slapping and fouling and guessing on steals 80% of the time. Of course they're not going to win a title or anything, but they weren't going to do that even with Rondo.

They should still make the playoffs unless they're just planning on tanking to try to get a top pick.
 
2013-01-28 05:33:20 PM  
They got one ring out of it... Lakers have tried it twice in the modern era and failed both times. Clippers looking good, but remains to be seen what happens. Heat have one ring out of it.

Maybe superteams just are not meant to last.
 
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