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(NPR)   Citizens of Mexican town arm themselves and band together to fight back against gangs, will soon be looking to hire seven cowboys   (npr.org) divider line 105
    More: Interesting, Mexico, town, resistance group, Guerrero, crew, Interior Secretary  
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2013-01-28 12:22:43 PM  

pedrop357: Dimensio: 9mm: Wait, Mexico has a gun violence problem!?

That is not possible, because guns are banned in Mexico.

So that is not possible that gun violence is a problem.

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

Eric Holder, is that you?

:)

I've always loved that claim our 'lax' gun laws are what helps arm the cartels, then they show a lot of full-auto AK rifles, along with the things you mentioned-RPGs, grenades, even anti-aircraft weapons.

I would love to have a treasure hunt where we get people to go to every gun show and gun store and find even one full-auto AK style rifle, functional grenade, RPG and launcher, or SAM. That alone should be exceedingly difficult. Then, the next insane difficulty is buying a quantity of them without background checks any real wait.

One thing we know for sure is that the cartels are not getting Russian, Chinese, etc. AK47 type rifles from smugglers in those countries, and they are NOT getting them from the military.
Those rifles are being imported into the US in direct violation of the 1968 Gun Control Act which bans imports of NFA weapons for civilian use, they are then being shipped from these importer direct to gun stores wherein the proprietors of these establishments are selling them without any kind of paperwork in apparently large quantities.

Also, some cartels are really particular on semi-auto AR style rifles even though they fire a smaller cartridge then the fully auto AK style rifles that seem to be everywhere down there. I wonder who thought that buying semi-auto rifles at or near retail in small quantities at US gun stores and leaving a pape ...


You aren't looking at the right shows or right gun stores. Give me $25k, and I can go start the process of buying a full auto AK today... granted, it will take 6 to 12 months for the paperwork to finish, but the rifle is on the shelf at a local store right now.

Last show I went to, there were 3 FA AKs, a sear cut (but not registered as a transferable mg) FN-FAL, and several select fire M16s - one had burst, the other 2 were FA.

Most of the 40mm grenades on gb right now are illumination, but if you are willing to pay the tax stamp and do the bg check.... why not?
 
2013-01-28 03:03:35 PM  
These cartels are a good reason for an armed population among border towns on the off chance that they start getting cocky. How long would it take to get a military response to Bumfark, Texas compared to an armed response against the cartel thugs. I find our anti-immigration stances funny too in relation to the kind of shiat going on in Mexico. You want to curb the flow of our cousins to the south coming northward? Cure the problem going on there. We have no problem shipping soldiers halfway across the globe in the name of liberation when we have a neighbor to the south stuck in a stranglehold. Then again I wouldn't wish our military upon them, so how can shiat like this really be dealt with?
 
2013-01-28 06:09:51 PM  

Fark It: NFA: In Mexico local law enforcement is often involved in the gang related activities.

In America, local law enforcement is often involved in gang-related activities/


wouldn't this have been more appropriate ?

Link
 
2013-01-30 12:35:06 AM  

Hallby81: Coelacanth: Dimensio: 9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.

[www.thetruthaboutguns.com image 580x352]

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?

I know for a fact there was an ex-army armorer here in Las Vegas who used to build and sell .50 sniper rifles under the table for $20,000 apiece. He got away with it for at least a decade until he pulled up stakes and moved to Southeast Asia.

Well whoopty farkin do.. You can buy 50 cal anti material rifles from Barrett for roughly $5,000. It's not like their some un-obtainable weapon. Quit being ignorant. And Barrett is only one maker. Many Euro gun companies make them as well.




How much would you pay for a gun that can't be traced?
 
2013-01-30 07:06:14 AM  

Coelacanth: Hallby81: Coelacanth: Dimensio: 9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.

[www.thetruthaboutguns.com image 580x352]

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?

I know for a fact there was an ex-army armorer here in Las Vegas who used to build and sell .50 sniper rifles under the table for $20,000 apiece. He got away with it for at least a decade until he pulled up stakes and moved to Southeast Asia.

Well whoopty farkin do.. You can buy 50 cal anti material rifles from Barrett for roughly $5,000. It's not like their some un-obtainable weapon. Quit being ignorant. And Barrett is only one maker. Many Euro gun companies make them as well.



How much would you pay for a gun that can't be traced?


The same amount plus another 80-100 bucks for a good Dremel tool and there goes the serial number and any other identifying marks.
 
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