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(NPR)   Citizens of Mexican town arm themselves and band together to fight back against gangs, will soon be looking to hire seven cowboys   (npr.org) divider line 105
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2013-01-27 06:09:41 PM

Dimensio: 9mm: Wait, Mexico has a gun violence problem!?

That is not possible, because guns are banned in Mexico.

So that is not possible that gun violence is a problem.

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels. It's Whitey's fault

 
2013-01-27 06:12:15 PM
Unpossible. I have been assured that whenever private citizens acquire guns to defend themselves from crime, they always end up shooting themselves or each other. They never improve their own security, because even when organized, they lack the training and authority of the military.

/oh, and cops are not private citizens, they are superior to any mere citizen
//that's the only reason they can be trusted with guns
///and they never shoot nine bystanders trying to take down a single criminal, especially after at least 15 years of experience
 
9mm
2013-01-27 06:13:03 PM

Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.


All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.
 
2013-01-27 06:13:06 PM

OscarTamerz: They really only need one but he couldn't have a name.

[www.picgifs.com image 300x379]


I was thinking they may get the guy to paint the entire town red too.
 
2013-01-27 06:13:25 PM

calbert: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x332]


Yeah, subby fail.

I hear the people of Santa Poco have very little, but will give all if you can save them from the more than famous El Guapo
 
2013-01-27 06:14:28 PM

kukukupo: Came for the Three Amigos.

Leaving satisfied.


Would you like to kiss me on the veranda?

/no, the mouth will be fine...
 
2013-01-27 06:16:56 PM

9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.


The "fully automatic assault rifle" part is true, at least after Eric Holder's "Fast and Furious" operation.

/which mysteriously coincided with a 150% jump in the drug war casualties in Mexico
//correlation can never equal causation when it's inconvenient for the authorities, of course
 
2013-01-27 06:20:14 PM
Generalissimo Francisco Franco is he still dead?
 
2013-01-27 06:21:04 PM
"It seemed like a good idea at the time."
 
9mm
2013-01-27 06:23:37 PM
Actually, let me fix this for you easier without getting into a tit-for-tat gun debate:

Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.


... the fact that it is a failed state with only symbolic rule of law, where government exists as a shadow of drug cartel influence; where the economy is such a disaster that it is more appealing for young men to flee the county, or work as drug cartel henchmen, than it is to work a real job.

But its so much easier to blame objects, rather than people, on social ills.

Fortunately, there are people like me to fight to correct this demented thinking. It'll be a cold day in heck before Mexico's problems are allowed to legislate our way of life.
 
2013-01-27 06:25:52 PM

9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.


www.thetruthaboutguns.com

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?
 
2013-01-27 06:27:08 PM
Can we send all the really hard core gun nuts down to give them a hand? I mean, not just the people that own guns or even those horrible "assault weapons", the ones that actively stockpile guns and ammunition for the coming end of the world. Making Mexico safer might even keep a few more people there, talk about win-win for those guys.

/own two of the guns Pelosi wants to ban
//neither is an AR
///one of them is over 70 years old
 
2013-01-27 06:33:47 PM
www.thetruthaboutguns.com

Hey look, they arrested them on Casual Friday at the Drug Cartel.
 
9mm
2013-01-27 06:37:38 PM

Dimensio:

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?


Yes. That is what I am suggesting. He is scapegoating.

Again, please tell me where an American citizen can lawfully purchase functioning hand grenades in this country.

Stop dancing around the facts.
 
2013-01-27 06:40:05 PM
content6.flixster.com
 
2013-01-27 06:53:42 PM
I approve.
 
2013-01-27 06:54:14 PM

9mm: Dimensio:

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?

Yes. That is what I am suggesting. He is scapegoating.

Again, please tell me where an American citizen can lawfully purchase functioning hand grenades in this country.

Stop dancing around the facts.


Evidently I have not yet mastered the human technique known as "sarcasm".
 
2013-01-27 07:00:40 PM

Dimensio: 9mm: Dimensio:

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?

Yes. That is what I am suggesting. He is scapegoating.

Again, please tell me where an American citizen can lawfully purchase functioning hand grenades in this country.

Stop dancing around the facts.

Evidently I have not yet mastered the human technique known as "sarcasm".


I thought you could get them at walmart? They have everything
 
2013-01-27 07:17:01 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-27 07:18:58 PM

Vectron: It's Whitey's fault


"Blame Whitey" is the Grand Unified Theory of leftist historiography.
 
2013-01-27 07:21:14 PM
cache.kotaku.com
I say four people.
 
2013-01-27 07:22:56 PM

Krieghund: Followup: Seven cowboys found hanging from a bridge in Southern Mexico

/they should have hired samurai.


Hungry ones. They'll work for rice.
 
2013-01-27 07:28:09 PM
The cartels vs. citizens soccer ball tour of 2013?
 
2013-01-27 07:35:20 PM

Dimensio: Evidently I have not yet mastered the human technique known as "sarcasm".


Where's that sarcasm font when you need it?
 
2013-01-27 07:36:00 PM

Dimensio: 9mm: Dimensio:


Evidently I have not yet mastered the human technique known as "sarcasm".


I got it.
 
2013-01-27 07:42:05 PM

Dinki: [rousedtomediocrity.files.wordpress.com image 850x948]

Uber cool


Not gay, but those dudes really were magnificent. Today's action-heroes look more like Calvin Klein underwear models from a GQ mag than real men.
 
2013-01-27 07:53:08 PM

hasty ambush: Mexico's Gun Laws.

Allowed hand gun calibers are .380 auto, .38 and .22.


Basically every private body guard carries a 9MM Glock, legal or not. I have a Rem 870 and a 1911 .38 Sup in my home there. All legal, above board, and "tramited" with lots of $200 Peso notes.
 
2013-01-27 07:56:49 PM

Turbo Cojones: Not gay, but those dudes really were magnificent. Today's action-heroes look more like Calvin Klein underwear models from a GQ mag than real men.


I have a theory (and this theory is mine) that contemporary masculinity has become bifurcated between overbearing chest- thumping macho idiots and anemic self- hating hipsterish pussies -- so that the traditional male hero who was strong, brave and resolute when he needed to be, but considerate and civilized otherwise, has mostly disappeared from popular culture. I remember once reading the obituary of a Englishman who was called up for service in World War II, displayed all kinds of single- handed heroics against the Wehrmacht, then once the war was over returned to his job as a manufacturer of biscuit- tin hinges... where would such a man fit in today? I think that what people appreciated about (e.g.) Steve McQueen was his everyman quality -- he didn't represent some kind of unattainable musclebound ideal, nor was he an ironic and self- deprecating girly- man, but something in between -- in other words, something like most ordinary men can be if they only rise to the occasion.
 
2013-01-27 08:01:05 PM

Dimensio: 9mm: Wait, Mexico has a gun violence problem!?

That is not possible, because guns are banned in Mexico.

So that is not possible that gun violence is a problem.

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.


Eric Holder, is that you?

:)

I've always loved that claim our 'lax' gun laws are what helps arm the cartels, then they show a lot of full-auto AK rifles, along with the things you mentioned-RPGs, grenades, even anti-aircraft weapons.

I would love to have a treasure hunt where we get people to go to every gun show and gun store and find even one full-auto AK style rifle, functional grenade, RPG and launcher, or SAM. That alone should be exceedingly difficult. Then, the next insane difficulty is buying a quantity of them without background checks any real wait.

One thing we know for sure is that the cartels are not getting Russian, Chinese, etc. AK47 type rifles from smugglers in those countries, and they are NOT getting them from the military.
Those rifles are being imported into the US in direct violation of the 1968 Gun Control Act which bans imports of NFA weapons for civilian use, they are then being shipped from these importer direct to gun stores wherein the proprietors of these establishments are selling them without any kind of paperwork in apparently large quantities.

Also, some cartels are really particular on semi-auto AR style rifles even though they fire a smaller cartridge then the fully auto AK style rifles that seem to be everywhere down there. I wonder who thought that buying semi-auto rifles at or near retail in small quantities at US gun stores and leaving a paper trail was a better idea then bribing or ripping off military depots and/or networking with smugglers for large quantities of untraceable fully automatic firearms.
 
2013-01-27 08:02:14 PM

Cheops: Dimensio: 9mm: Wait, Mexico has a gun violence problem!?

That is not possible, because guns are banned in Mexico.

So that is not possible that gun violence is a problem.

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

I wanna go to those gun shows.


I forgot to mention that. I wish I had known where these shows and gun stores were where one could pick up semi-auto ARs and full auto AKs without paperwork.
 
2013-01-27 08:04:01 PM

9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.


He's definitely being sarcastic and seems to be expressing a composite of the idiotic garbage being spewed by gun control groups and supporters in relation to mexican cartels' armament.
 
2013-01-27 08:28:56 PM
lmao good luck to them. cant wait to see the video on bestgore of their heads in a massive pile in the presidents bedroom
 
2013-01-27 08:35:32 PM

F22raptom: lmao good luck to them. cant wait to see the video on bestgore of their heads in a massive pile in the presidents bedroom



Who's side are you on?
 
2013-01-27 08:51:23 PM

JonathanChance: Or maybe seven samurai?

[www.cinecultist.com image 400x267]

[www.geekpeeks.com image 400x300]


I'd go with the guys up top. Toshiro Mifune is badass.
 
2013-01-27 08:56:28 PM
detritus:
Guns are banned in Mexico and don't belong in the hands of ordinary citizens. They should rely on the government and police to protect them from harm because assault weapons in the hands of citizens leads to mass shootings. These gun nut terrorists will soon be taught a lesson about overstepping the authority of the police to protect them. It is impossible for the police to be corrupt because they stand for justice.

They're also probably not banning drugs enough, because that always makes things better.
 
2013-01-27 09:00:14 PM
Dimensio:  Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?

He can't very well admit that his own military is selling guns to the cartels now can he?

/or that his government has virtually no control over their southern border
 
2013-01-27 09:00:18 PM

detritus: NFA: This is what America would become without a strong central government.  In Mexico local law enforcement is often involved in the gang related activities.

Guns are banned in Mexico and don't belong in the hands of ordinary citizens. They should rely on the government and police to protect them from harm because assault weapons in the hands of citizens leads to mass shootings. These gun nut terrorists will soon be taught a lesson about overstepping the authority of the police to protect them. It is impossible for the police to be corrupt because they stand for justice.


Can't tell if trolling or serious.
 
2013-01-27 09:24:26 PM
Subby , I prefer the Magnificent Seven reference over the 3 amigos reference.
 
2013-01-27 09:31:31 PM
Don't you ever say that again about your fathers, because they are not cowards. You think I am brave because I carry a gun; well, your fathers are much braver because they carry responsibility, for you, your brothers, your sisters, and your mothers. And this responsibility is like a big rock that weighs a ton. It bends and it twists them until finally it buries them under the ground. And there's nobody says they have to do this. They do it because they love you, and because they want to. I have never had this kind of courage. Running a farm, working like a mule every day with no guarantee anything will ever come of it. This is bravery.
 
2013-01-27 09:32:28 PM

Dimensio: 9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.

[www.thetruthaboutguns.com image 580x352]

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?


I know for a fact there was an ex-army armorer here in Las Vegas who used to build and sell .50 sniper rifles under the table for $20,000 apiece. He got away with it for at least a decade until he pulled up stakes and moved to Southeast Asia.
 
2013-01-28 12:05:03 AM
www.american-buddha.com
 
2013-01-28 12:27:28 AM

Coelacanth: Dimensio: 9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.

[www.thetruthaboutguns.com image 580x352]

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?

I know for a fact there was an ex-army armorer here in Las Vegas who used to build and sell .50 sniper rifles under the table for $20,000 apiece. He got away with it for at least a decade until he pulled up stakes and moved to Southeast Asia.


Well whoopty farkin do.. You can buy 50 cal anti material rifles from Barrett for roughly $5,000. It's not like their some un-obtainable weapon. Quit being ignorant. And Barrett is only one maker. Many Euro gun companies make them as well.
 
2013-01-28 12:41:32 AM

Dimensio: 9mm: Wait, Mexico has a gun violence problem!?

That is not possible, because guns are banned in Mexico.

So that is not possible that gun violence is a problem.

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.


I wish. I could cut my commute in half with a nice belt-fed machine gun instead of a passenger seat.

/can't believe anyone bought your post.
 
2013-01-28 02:11:36 AM

calbert: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x332]


this
 
2013-01-28 02:22:18 AM

Dimensio: 9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.



The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?


Yes I will say it. Those M320 rounds are not for sale in the US.
 
2013-01-28 02:26:04 AM

pedrop357: 9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.

He's definitely being sarcastic and seems to be expressing a composite of the idiotic garbage being spewed by gun control groups and supporters in relation to mexican cartels' armament.


Dammit. Why did you ruin it!? This could have gone on for hours.
 
2013-01-28 06:59:47 AM
I don't understand why Mexico doesn't ban guns and make this whole violence problem disappear. They should also ban drugs while they're at it.
 
2013-01-28 09:35:50 AM

Dimensio: 9mm: Wait, Mexico has a gun violence problem!?

That is not possible, because guns are banned in Mexico.

So that is not possible that gun violence is a problem.

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.


Is that you, Mr. Holder?

In a seriousness, you should get 0/10, but some people are so dumb they'll believe it.
 
2013-01-28 10:23:49 AM
This is basically how most of Africa works. Gangs come out and wreak terror in the night, while everyone huddles in their homes. There is no law... but if someone gets out of line, the normal towns people mob up themselves in the middle of the night, and go kill the person.

Its kind of fascinating.
 
2013-01-28 11:10:00 AM

NFA: This is what America would become without a strong central government.  In Mexico local law enforcement is often involved in the gang related activities.

if it were full of Mexicans.

FTFY. Can't have a first world nation with a third world population.
 
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