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(NPR)   Citizens of Mexican town arm themselves and band together to fight back against gangs, will soon be looking to hire seven cowboys   ( npr.org) divider line
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2013-01-27 12:27:09 PM  
rousedtomediocrity.files.wordpress.com

Uber cool
 
NFA
2013-01-27 12:29:37 PM  
This is what America would become without a strong central government.  In Mexico local law enforcement is often involved in the gang related activities.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-27 12:45:41 PM  

NFA: This is what America would become without a strong central government.  In Mexico local law enforcement is often involved in the gang related activities.


It was like that, in the more remote areas at least.
 
2013-01-27 01:05:38 PM  

NFA: In Mexico local law enforcement is often involved in the gang related activities.


In America, local law enforcement is often involved in gang-related activities/
 
2013-01-27 01:43:42 PM  

NFA: This is what America would become without a strong central government.  In Mexico local law enforcement is often involved in the gang related activities.


Horse shiat. The Zetas are made up almost entirely of the active duty and ex Mexican military.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-27 02:03:56 PM  

One Bad Apple: NFA: This is what America would become without a strong central government.  In Mexico local law enforcement is often involved in the gang related activities.

Horse shiat. The Zetas are made up almost entirely of the active duty and ex Mexican military.


I think they are referring to small time local gangs.  The Zetas would wipe out the whole town.
 
2013-01-27 04:37:49 PM  
Followup: Seven cowboys found hanging from a bridge in Southern Mexico

/they should have hired samurai.
 
2013-01-27 04:41:19 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-27 04:46:42 PM  
Good luck with that.
 
2013-01-27 04:46:43 PM  

Dinki: [rousedtomediocrity.files.wordpress.com image 850x948]

Uber cool


Wasn't he on the Jamaican bobsled team?
content7.flixster.com
 
2013-01-27 04:47:37 PM  
Whar is Hero tag
 
GBB
2013-01-27 04:48:15 PM  
How about a good deal on 3 cowboy actors??
 
2013-01-27 04:48:39 PM  
"I was aiming for the horse."
 
2013-01-27 04:49:52 PM  
Came for the Three Amigos.

Leaving satisfied.
 
2013-01-27 04:50:10 PM  
Do you mean a plethora of cowboys?
 
2013-01-27 04:50:59 PM  
i660.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-27 04:52:55 PM  
We should be sending truckloads of guns down there to help the Mexicans arm themselves against Obama's fast and furious guns.
 
2013-01-27 04:53:10 PM  

NFA: This is what America would become without a strong central government.  In Mexico local law enforcement is often involved in the gang related activities.


Guns are banned in Mexico and don't belong in the hands of ordinary citizens. They should rely on the government and police to protect them from harm because assault weapons in the hands of citizens leads to mass shootings. These gun nut terrorists will soon be taught a lesson about overstepping the authority of the police to protect them. It is impossible for the police to be corrupt because they stand for justice.
 
2013-01-27 04:53:28 PM  
Where government institutions fail the people will band together to create their own institutions. This is a lesson worth remembering you anarcho-libertarians.
 
2013-01-27 04:53:45 PM  
www.screeninsults.com

/unimpressed
 
2013-01-27 04:53:48 PM  
FTFA: Authorities are sympathetic. Guerrero state Assistant Interior Secretary Rossana Mora Patino says it's understandable and even legitimate that the people of Ayutla have taken matters into their own hands.

But she says their actions are illegal and must stop.


"Yeah, we can see why you'd do that, being the only option. But quit it!"

Fun fact: The Mexican Constitution is the only one beside the U.S. Constitution to guarantee the right to keep and bear arms...but doesn't allow Mexicans to own anything the military uses, and has effectively been hamstrung to be a ban through laws.
 
2013-01-27 04:55:04 PM  
What Texas town is this again? I kid, I kid. I'm well aware gun owning Americans will never have the balls to stand up for what is right. Pussies.
 
2013-01-27 04:55:14 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Do you mean a plethora of cowboys?


Senor El Guapo... what is a plethora?
 
2013-01-27 04:55:39 PM  
This is why it is important for the people to be well armed. We see what kind of weapons the cartels pack. The citizens should be able to at least have their semi-auto rifles chambered in an intermediate cartridge with the ability to accept a detachable magazine holding no less than 30 rounds.
 
2013-01-27 04:58:16 PM  
For some, shyness might be their El Guapo.
 
2013-01-27 04:58:30 PM  

NFA: This is what America would become without a strong central government.  In Mexico local law enforcement is often involved in the gang related activities.


Mexico needs a death star. You know... to keep the local systemsgovernments in line.
 
2013-01-27 04:58:42 PM  

libranoelrose: [i660.photobucket.com image 502x749]


Wow...that pic is quite ghey...NTTAWWT...but wow.
 
2013-01-27 04:58:50 PM  
Or maybe seven samurai?

www.cinecultist.com

www.geekpeeks.com
 
2013-01-27 04:59:13 PM  
"If God did not want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep."
 
2013-01-27 05:00:27 PM  
Magnificent!
 
2013-01-27 05:07:52 PM  
something something something, corrupt government, defense against tyranny, 2nd amendment.
 
2013-01-27 05:11:54 PM  
Oh the Fark so-called-progressives will not be happy about innocent people exercising their human right of self defense.
 
2013-01-27 05:11:58 PM  
They really only need one but he couldn't have a name.

www.picgifs.com
 
2013-01-27 05:12:45 PM  
Mexico's Gun Laws

The Mexican Constitution says:

Article 10 - The inhabitants of the United Mexican States have the right to possess arms in their residences for their security and legitimate defense with the exception of those prohibited by federal law, and those reserved for the exclusive use of the military. Federal law will determine the cases, conditions, requisites, and places in which the bearing of arms by inhabitants will be authorized.

"The inhabitants of the United Mexican States" means Mexican citizens and, as defined in other laws, foreign citizens who hold a valid immigration status beyond FMM.

Article 27. The right to carry arms will only be authorized for foreigners when, in addition to satisfying the requirements indicated in the previous article, they accredit their status of "Inmigrado" except in the case of temporary license permits for tourists with sports-related intentions. Visitors/tourists (Visitante) do not have gun rights without a license. This license is only issued for "sporting purposes."

The privilege of carrying a firearm outside of one's home is limited to what is authorized by Mexican federal law. Mexican citizens and a Residente Permanente can apply for a carry permit. Convincing evidence must be presented showing why a carry permit is needed. Such a permit is very hard to get. There are work-arounds by membership in a hunting or gun club as discussed below.

All privately-owned firearms must be registered with the Mexican army.

Types of guns allowed

Article 11 of Ley Federal de Armas de Fuego y Explosivos lists prohibited "military firearms" in México.

They include:

full-auto and semi-auto handguns larger than 380

revolver .357 Magnum or larger

rifles larger than .30 caliber

shotguns larger than 12ga or with a barrel shorter than 25".

Allowed hand gun calibers are .380 auto, .38 and .22.

Allowed long guns: rifles no larger the 30 caliber; shotguns 12, 20 and 410 with barrels longer than 25"

There is only one legal gun store in the country; it's at an army base in Mexico City. There you can legally buy a gun and get a 24 to 72 hour transport permit back to your home. You can buy two boxes of ammo with the gun. You will need a letter from the local police department attesting that you have no criminal record. You will also need your immigration document (or voter ID card if you are a citizen) and passport with copies, your CURP and proof of address. When you arrive at the army base you will not be allowed to enter with any electronic device - cell phone, computer, camera, etc.

You must fill out an application which you can get at any army base. In addition to the completed application, you will need your immigration document (or voter ID card if you are a citizen) and passport with copies, your CURP and proof of address. When you have all of this, you may then transport the weapon to the Army base for registration. The registration application is your permit to transport the gun to the base. The gun must be in a box or wrapped so that it is not visible. The approved application will serve as your carry permit on the way home. Thereafter, you must not take the gun out of the house without a special carry permit.
 
2013-01-27 05:13:58 PM  

WordsnCollision: [www.screeninsults.com image 500x368]

/unimpressed


Uncensored Quote from B. Traven's The Treasure of The Sierra Madre

"Badges, to god-damned hell with badges! We have no badges. In fact, we don't need badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges, you god-damned cabron and ching' tu madre! Come out there from that shiat-hole of yours. I have to speak to you."

The only Spanish word I know there is cabron which I believe in English means bastard.
 
2013-01-27 05:15:42 PM  
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
--Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and Punishment (1764).
 
2013-01-27 05:17:35 PM  
"We deal in lead, friend." Link
 
2013-01-27 05:18:44 PM  
I can only imagine this ending with the cartels making an example out of this town.
 
2013-01-27 05:21:13 PM  
the leader of the gang has been reported as being more than famous
 
2013-01-27 05:21:55 PM  
ahh yes, liberal politicians have done wonders with this country. The good news is same-sex marriage is legal in Mexico City.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-27 05:23:27 PM  

NFA: This is what America would become without a strong central government.  In Mexico local law enforcement is often involved in the gang related activities.


Wrong. Traditional White America created a different society from Mexico. While there are exceptions we trend towards local government that is responsive,not currupt and will safeguard our property.

What strong central goverment laws have given us are the "crimes" associated with getting products we desire but are "illegal". Prohibition and the war on drugs filled our jails. We have jailed people trying to grow a natural crop. Marijauna.
 
2013-01-27 05:24:16 PM  
Great, another gun control thread.

wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net
 
2013-01-27 05:26:57 PM  
Nobody throws me my own guns and says run. Nobody.
 
9mm
2013-01-27 05:35:36 PM  
Wait, Mexico has a gun violence problem!?

That is not possible, because guns are banned in Mexico.

So that is not possible that gun violence is a problem.
 
2013-01-27 05:36:44 PM  
Seven cowboys is a bit overkill, especially when all you need is three...
i601.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-27 05:47:06 PM  

9mm: Wait, Mexico has a gun violence problem!?

That is not possible, because guns are banned in Mexico.

So that is not possible that gun violence is a problem.


Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.
 
2013-01-27 06:00:24 PM  

calbert: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x332]


Three amigos sounds cheaper than seven cowboys.
 
2013-01-27 06:00:34 PM  

NFA: This is what America would become without a strong central government.  In Mexico local law enforcement is often involved in the gang related activities.


In other words, ALL HAIL THE GLORIOUS STATE!!
 
2013-01-27 06:01:59 PM  

Dimensio: 9mm: Wait, Mexico has a gun violence problem!?

That is not possible, because guns are banned in Mexico.

So that is not possible that gun violence is a problem.

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.


I wanna go to those gun shows.
 
2013-01-27 06:08:45 PM  

fusillade762: Great, another gun control thread.

[wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net image 403x362]


Not gun control per say (unless we're counting another failure), more like the proper use of arms to prevent extortion.

/not all armed resistance focuses on titanic battles between liberty and tyranny.
/sometimes its just about chasing the local thugs out of town.
 
2013-01-27 06:09:41 PM  

Dimensio: 9mm: Wait, Mexico has a gun violence problem!?

That is not possible, because guns are banned in Mexico.

So that is not possible that gun violence is a problem.

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels. It's Whitey's fault

 
2013-01-27 06:12:15 PM  
Unpossible. I have been assured that whenever private citizens acquire guns to defend themselves from crime, they always end up shooting themselves or each other. They never improve their own security, because even when organized, they lack the training and authority of the military.

/oh, and cops are not private citizens, they are superior to any mere citizen
//that's the only reason they can be trusted with guns
///and they never shoot nine bystanders trying to take down a single criminal, especially after at least 15 years of experience
 
9mm
2013-01-27 06:13:03 PM  

Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.


All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.
 
2013-01-27 06:13:06 PM  

OscarTamerz: They really only need one but he couldn't have a name.

[www.picgifs.com image 300x379]


I was thinking they may get the guy to paint the entire town red too.
 
2013-01-27 06:13:25 PM  

calbert: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x332]


Yeah, subby fail.

I hear the people of Santa Poco have very little, but will give all if you can save them from the more than famous El Guapo
 
2013-01-27 06:14:28 PM  

kukukupo: Came for the Three Amigos.

Leaving satisfied.


Would you like to kiss me on the veranda?

/no, the mouth will be fine...
 
2013-01-27 06:16:56 PM  

9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.


The "fully automatic assault rifle" part is true, at least after Eric Holder's "Fast and Furious" operation.

/which mysteriously coincided with a 150% jump in the drug war casualties in Mexico
//correlation can never equal causation when it's inconvenient for the authorities, of course
 
2013-01-27 06:20:14 PM  
Generalissimo Francisco Franco is he still dead?
 
2013-01-27 06:21:04 PM  
"It seemed like a good idea at the time."
 
9mm
2013-01-27 06:23:37 PM  
Actually, let me fix this for you easier without getting into a tit-for-tat gun debate:

Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.


... the fact that it is a failed state with only symbolic rule of law, where government exists as a shadow of drug cartel influence; where the economy is such a disaster that it is more appealing for young men to flee the county, or work as drug cartel henchmen, than it is to work a real job.

But its so much easier to blame objects, rather than people, on social ills.

Fortunately, there are people like me to fight to correct this demented thinking. It'll be a cold day in heck before Mexico's problems are allowed to legislate our way of life.
 
2013-01-27 06:25:52 PM  

9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.


www.thetruthaboutguns.com

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?
 
2013-01-27 06:27:08 PM  
Can we send all the really hard core gun nuts down to give them a hand? I mean, not just the people that own guns or even those horrible "assault weapons", the ones that actively stockpile guns and ammunition for the coming end of the world. Making Mexico safer might even keep a few more people there, talk about win-win for those guys.

/own two of the guns Pelosi wants to ban
//neither is an AR
///one of them is over 70 years old
 
2013-01-27 06:33:47 PM  
www.thetruthaboutguns.com

Hey look, they arrested them on Casual Friday at the Drug Cartel.
 
9mm
2013-01-27 06:37:38 PM  

Dimensio:

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?


Yes. That is what I am suggesting. He is scapegoating.

Again, please tell me where an American citizen can lawfully purchase functioning hand grenades in this country.

Stop dancing around the facts.
 
2013-01-27 06:40:05 PM  
content6.flixster.com
 
2013-01-27 06:53:42 PM  
I approve.
 
2013-01-27 06:54:14 PM  

9mm: Dimensio:

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?

Yes. That is what I am suggesting. He is scapegoating.

Again, please tell me where an American citizen can lawfully purchase functioning hand grenades in this country.

Stop dancing around the facts.


Evidently I have not yet mastered the human technique known as "sarcasm".
 
2013-01-27 07:00:40 PM  

Dimensio: 9mm: Dimensio:

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?

Yes. That is what I am suggesting. He is scapegoating.

Again, please tell me where an American citizen can lawfully purchase functioning hand grenades in this country.

Stop dancing around the facts.

Evidently I have not yet mastered the human technique known as "sarcasm".


I thought you could get them at walmart? They have everything
 
2013-01-27 07:17:01 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-27 07:18:58 PM  

Vectron: It's Whitey's fault


"Blame Whitey" is the Grand Unified Theory of leftist historiography.
 
2013-01-27 07:21:14 PM  
cache.kotaku.com
I say four people.
 
2013-01-27 07:22:56 PM  

Krieghund: Followup: Seven cowboys found hanging from a bridge in Southern Mexico

/they should have hired samurai.


Hungry ones. They'll work for rice.
 
2013-01-27 07:28:09 PM  
The cartels vs. citizens soccer ball tour of 2013?
 
2013-01-27 07:35:20 PM  

Dimensio: Evidently I have not yet mastered the human technique known as "sarcasm".


Where's that sarcasm font when you need it?
 
2013-01-27 07:36:00 PM  

Dimensio: 9mm: Dimensio:


Evidently I have not yet mastered the human technique known as "sarcasm".


I got it.
 
2013-01-27 07:42:05 PM  

Dinki: [rousedtomediocrity.files.wordpress.com image 850x948]

Uber cool


Not gay, but those dudes really were magnificent. Today's action-heroes look more like Calvin Klein underwear models from a GQ mag than real men.
 
2013-01-27 07:53:08 PM  

hasty ambush: Mexico's Gun Laws.

Allowed hand gun calibers are .380 auto, .38 and .22.


Basically every private body guard carries a 9MM Glock, legal or not. I have a Rem 870 and a 1911 .38 Sup in my home there. All legal, above board, and "tramited" with lots of $200 Peso notes.
 
2013-01-27 07:56:49 PM  

Turbo Cojones: Not gay, but those dudes really were magnificent. Today's action-heroes look more like Calvin Klein underwear models from a GQ mag than real men.


I have a theory (and this theory is mine) that contemporary masculinity has become bifurcated between overbearing chest- thumping macho idiots and anemic self- hating hipsterish pussies -- so that the traditional male hero who was strong, brave and resolute when he needed to be, but considerate and civilized otherwise, has mostly disappeared from popular culture. I remember once reading the obituary of a Englishman who was called up for service in World War II, displayed all kinds of single- handed heroics against the Wehrmacht, then once the war was over returned to his job as a manufacturer of biscuit- tin hinges... where would such a man fit in today? I think that what people appreciated about (e.g.) Steve McQueen was his everyman quality -- he didn't represent some kind of unattainable musclebound ideal, nor was he an ironic and self- deprecating girly- man, but something in between -- in other words, something like most ordinary men can be if they only rise to the occasion.
 
2013-01-27 08:01:05 PM  

Dimensio: 9mm: Wait, Mexico has a gun violence problem!?

That is not possible, because guns are banned in Mexico.

So that is not possible that gun violence is a problem.

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.


Eric Holder, is that you?

:)

I've always loved that claim our 'lax' gun laws are what helps arm the cartels, then they show a lot of full-auto AK rifles, along with the things you mentioned-RPGs, grenades, even anti-aircraft weapons.

I would love to have a treasure hunt where we get people to go to every gun show and gun store and find even one full-auto AK style rifle, functional grenade, RPG and launcher, or SAM. That alone should be exceedingly difficult. Then, the next insane difficulty is buying a quantity of them without background checks any real wait.

One thing we know for sure is that the cartels are not getting Russian, Chinese, etc. AK47 type rifles from smugglers in those countries, and they are NOT getting them from the military.
Those rifles are being imported into the US in direct violation of the 1968 Gun Control Act which bans imports of NFA weapons for civilian use, they are then being shipped from these importer direct to gun stores wherein the proprietors of these establishments are selling them without any kind of paperwork in apparently large quantities.

Also, some cartels are really particular on semi-auto AR style rifles even though they fire a smaller cartridge then the fully auto AK style rifles that seem to be everywhere down there. I wonder who thought that buying semi-auto rifles at or near retail in small quantities at US gun stores and leaving a paper trail was a better idea then bribing or ripping off military depots and/or networking with smugglers for large quantities of untraceable fully automatic firearms.
 
2013-01-27 08:02:14 PM  

Cheops: Dimensio: 9mm: Wait, Mexico has a gun violence problem!?

That is not possible, because guns are banned in Mexico.

So that is not possible that gun violence is a problem.

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

I wanna go to those gun shows.


I forgot to mention that. I wish I had known where these shows and gun stores were where one could pick up semi-auto ARs and full auto AKs without paperwork.
 
2013-01-27 08:04:01 PM  

9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.


He's definitely being sarcastic and seems to be expressing a composite of the idiotic garbage being spewed by gun control groups and supporters in relation to mexican cartels' armament.
 
2013-01-27 08:28:56 PM  
lmao good luck to them. cant wait to see the video on bestgore of their heads in a massive pile in the presidents bedroom
 
2013-01-27 08:35:32 PM  

F22raptom: lmao good luck to them. cant wait to see the video on bestgore of their heads in a massive pile in the presidents bedroom



Who's side are you on?
 
2013-01-27 08:51:23 PM  

JonathanChance: Or maybe seven samurai?

[www.cinecultist.com image 400x267]

[www.geekpeeks.com image 400x300]


I'd go with the guys up top. Toshiro Mifune is badass.
 
2013-01-27 08:56:28 PM  
detritus:
Guns are banned in Mexico and don't belong in the hands of ordinary citizens. They should rely on the government and police to protect them from harm because assault weapons in the hands of citizens leads to mass shootings. These gun nut terrorists will soon be taught a lesson about overstepping the authority of the police to protect them. It is impossible for the police to be corrupt because they stand for justice.

They're also probably not banning drugs enough, because that always makes things better.
 
2013-01-27 09:00:14 PM  
Dimensio:  Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?

He can't very well admit that his own military is selling guns to the cartels now can he?

/or that his government has virtually no control over their southern border
 
2013-01-27 09:00:18 PM  

detritus: NFA: This is what America would become without a strong central government.  In Mexico local law enforcement is often involved in the gang related activities.

Guns are banned in Mexico and don't belong in the hands of ordinary citizens. They should rely on the government and police to protect them from harm because assault weapons in the hands of citizens leads to mass shootings. These gun nut terrorists will soon be taught a lesson about overstepping the authority of the police to protect them. It is impossible for the police to be corrupt because they stand for justice.


Can't tell if trolling or serious.
 
2013-01-27 09:24:26 PM  
Subby , I prefer the Magnificent Seven reference over the 3 amigos reference.
 
2013-01-27 09:31:31 PM  
Don't you ever say that again about your fathers, because they are not cowards. You think I am brave because I carry a gun; well, your fathers are much braver because they carry responsibility, for you, your brothers, your sisters, and your mothers. And this responsibility is like a big rock that weighs a ton. It bends and it twists them until finally it buries them under the ground. And there's nobody says they have to do this. They do it because they love you, and because they want to. I have never had this kind of courage. Running a farm, working like a mule every day with no guarantee anything will ever come of it. This is bravery.
 
2013-01-27 09:32:28 PM  

Dimensio: 9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.

[www.thetruthaboutguns.com image 580x352]

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?


I know for a fact there was an ex-army armorer here in Las Vegas who used to build and sell .50 sniper rifles under the table for $20,000 apiece. He got away with it for at least a decade until he pulled up stakes and moved to Southeast Asia.
 
2013-01-28 12:05:03 AM  
www.american-buddha.com
 
2013-01-28 12:27:28 AM  

Coelacanth: Dimensio: 9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.

[www.thetruthaboutguns.com image 580x352]

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?

I know for a fact there was an ex-army armorer here in Las Vegas who used to build and sell .50 sniper rifles under the table for $20,000 apiece. He got away with it for at least a decade until he pulled up stakes and moved to Southeast Asia.


Well whoopty farkin do.. You can buy 50 cal anti material rifles from Barrett for roughly $5,000. It's not like their some un-obtainable weapon. Quit being ignorant. And Barrett is only one maker. Many Euro gun companies make them as well.
 
2013-01-28 12:41:32 AM  

Dimensio: 9mm: Wait, Mexico has a gun violence problem!?

That is not possible, because guns are banned in Mexico.

So that is not possible that gun violence is a problem.

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.


I wish. I could cut my commute in half with a nice belt-fed machine gun instead of a passenger seat.

/can't believe anyone bought your post.
 
2013-01-28 02:11:36 AM  

calbert: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 500x332]


this
 
2013-01-28 02:22:18 AM  

Dimensio: 9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?


Yes I will say it. Those M320 rounds are not for sale in the US.
 
2013-01-28 02:26:04 AM  

pedrop357: 9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.

He's definitely being sarcastic and seems to be expressing a composite of the idiotic garbage being spewed by gun control groups and supporters in relation to mexican cartels' armament.


Dammit. Why did you ruin it!? This could have gone on for hours.
 
2013-01-28 06:59:47 AM  
I don't understand why Mexico doesn't ban guns and make this whole violence problem disappear. They should also ban drugs while they're at it.
 
2013-01-28 09:35:50 AM  

Dimensio: 9mm: Wait, Mexico has a gun violence problem!?

That is not possible, because guns are banned in Mexico.

So that is not possible that gun violence is a problem.

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.


Is that you, Mr. Holder?

In a seriousness, you should get I live with my mom, but some people are so dumb they'll believe it.
 
2013-01-28 10:23:49 AM  
This is basically how most of Africa works. Gangs come out and wreak terror in the night, while everyone huddles in their homes. There is no law... but if someone gets out of line, the normal towns people mob up themselves in the middle of the night, and go kill the person.

Its kind of fascinating.
 
2013-01-28 11:10:00 AM  

NFA: This is what America would become without a strong central government.  In Mexico local law enforcement is often involved in the gang related activities.

if it were full of Mexicans.

FTFY. Can't have a first world nation with a third world population.
 
2013-01-28 12:22:43 PM  

pedrop357: Dimensio: 9mm: Wait, Mexico has a gun violence problem!?

That is not possible, because guns are banned in Mexico.

So that is not possible that gun violence is a problem.

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

Eric Holder, is that you?

:)

I've always loved that claim our 'lax' gun laws are what helps arm the cartels, then they show a lot of full-auto AK rifles, along with the things you mentioned-RPGs, grenades, even anti-aircraft weapons.

I would love to have a treasure hunt where we get people to go to every gun show and gun store and find even one full-auto AK style rifle, functional grenade, RPG and launcher, or SAM. That alone should be exceedingly difficult. Then, the next insane difficulty is buying a quantity of them without background checks any real wait.

One thing we know for sure is that the cartels are not getting Russian, Chinese, etc. AK47 type rifles from smugglers in those countries, and they are NOT getting them from the military.
Those rifles are being imported into the US in direct violation of the 1968 Gun Control Act which bans imports of NFA weapons for civilian use, they are then being shipped from these importer direct to gun stores wherein the proprietors of these establishments are selling them without any kind of paperwork in apparently large quantities.

Also, some cartels are really particular on semi-auto AR style rifles even though they fire a smaller cartridge then the fully auto AK style rifles that seem to be everywhere down there. I wonder who thought that buying semi-auto rifles at or near retail in small quantities at US gun stores and leaving a pape ...


You aren't looking at the right shows or right gun stores. Give me $25k, and I can go start the process of buying a full auto AK today... granted, it will take 6 to 12 months for the paperwork to finish, but the rifle is on the shelf at a local store right now.

Last show I went to, there were 3 FA AKs, a sear cut (but not registered as a transferable mg) FN-FAL, and several select fire M16s - one had burst, the other 2 were FA.

Most of the 40mm grenades on gb right now are illumination, but if you are willing to pay the tax stamp and do the bg check.... why not?
 
2013-01-28 03:03:35 PM  
These cartels are a good reason for an armed population among border towns on the off chance that they start getting cocky. How long would it take to get a military response to Bumfark, Texas compared to an armed response against the cartel thugs. I find our anti-immigration stances funny too in relation to the kind of shiat going on in Mexico. You want to curb the flow of our cousins to the south coming northward? Cure the problem going on there. We have no problem shipping soldiers halfway across the globe in the name of liberation when we have a neighbor to the south stuck in a stranglehold. Then again I wouldn't wish our military upon them, so how can shiat like this really be dealt with?
 
2013-01-28 06:09:51 PM  

Fark It: NFA: In Mexico local law enforcement is often involved in the gang related activities.

In America, local law enforcement is often involved in gang-related activities/


wouldn't this have been more appropriate ?

Link
 
2013-01-30 12:35:06 AM  

Hallby81: Coelacanth: Dimensio: 9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.

[www.thetruthaboutguns.com image 580x352]

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?

I know for a fact there was an ex-army armorer here in Las Vegas who used to build and sell .50 sniper rifles under the table for $20,000 apiece. He got away with it for at least a decade until he pulled up stakes and moved to Southeast Asia.

Well whoopty farkin do.. You can buy 50 cal anti material rifles from Barrett for roughly $5,000. It's not like their some un-obtainable weapon. Quit being ignorant. And Barrett is only one maker. Many Euro gun companies make them as well.




How much would you pay for a gun that can't be traced?
 
2013-01-30 07:06:14 AM  

Coelacanth: Hallby81: Coelacanth: Dimensio: 9mm: Dimensio:

Mexico experiences violent crime as a result of a lack of restrictions upon firearms in the United States, which allows criminals to legally and easily purchase fully automatic assault rifles, vehicular mounted machine guns, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and multiple hand grenades without a background check at "gun shows" in the United States which they then smuggle over the border to arm criminal cartels.

All false.

Fully automatics are banned under federal law (with certain extremely narrow exemptions no Mexican drug dealer would ever qualify for).

Vehicular mounted machine guns? You've seen this at a gun show?

Rocket-propelled grenade launchers? Really? Tell me where to get one.

Hand grenades? Do you even listen to yourself?

Have you ever been to a gun show? Have you ever even actually seen a gun, other than on TV?

Keep spouting ill-informed BS with zero factual basis in reality - I'll keep learnin' ya the truth, son.

[www.thetruthaboutguns.com image 580x352]

The above image was taken from a raid on a Mexican criminal cartel. President Calderon has assured the United States government that weapons used by cartels originate from civilian purchasers in the United States of America. Are you suggesting that President Calderon has not been entirely honest in his assertions?

I know for a fact there was an ex-army armorer here in Las Vegas who used to build and sell .50 sniper rifles under the table for $20,000 apiece. He got away with it for at least a decade until he pulled up stakes and moved to Southeast Asia.

Well whoopty farkin do.. You can buy 50 cal anti material rifles from Barrett for roughly $5,000. It's not like their some un-obtainable weapon. Quit being ignorant. And Barrett is only one maker. Many Euro gun companies make them as well.

How much would you pay for a gun that can't be traced?


The same amount plus another 80-100 bucks for a good Dremel tool and there goes the serial number and any other identifying marks.
 
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