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(Some Guy)   Forging police officer's signature on official government document can bring (a) prison, (b) probation, or (3) profit   (stopbigbrothermd.org) divider line 20
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2013-01-27 11:11:23 AM  
I'm confused here about something. Baltimore actually has police officers which set there and review traffic camera photos, and issue citations based on it? Really?

Memphis and the burbs contracted the work out to a third party vendor because they couldn't keep up with it, and we're a lot smaller than Baltimore. Damn.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-27 11:28:11 AM  
Well, the signature on my dollar bill is clearly false, since it has Geithner's signature on it and he isn't the Treasure Secretary any more, and it looks like it was printed to me.

So that means it's forged right?
 
2013-01-27 11:36:46 AM  

vpb: Well, the signature on my dollar bill is clearly false, since it has Geithner's signature on it and he isn't the Treasure Secretary any more, and it looks like it was printed to me.

So that means it's forged right?


I'm willing to bet whatever monitor watcher gets paid to do this had a signature stamp from the officer assigned to oversee the operation as a contractor, and they never changed the stamp after he died. I find it hard to believe they were intentionally hand-signing his name to 2000 tickets.
 
2013-01-27 12:27:12 PM  
As noted above - non-issue.  The contractor has a signature stamp, or more likely a set of stamps, one of them didn't get replaced after the officer died, some shyster contacted a reporter he knows to "blow this story up" and save his client a few bucks.

I mean, I hate the idea of red light cameras as much as anyone, but come on.  This is just legalistic bullshiat.
 
2013-01-27 01:14:10 PM  
Your Honor, I have a constitution right to face my accused.  Please compel the officer to appear, or barring that I move to dismiss.
 
2013-01-27 01:14:59 PM  
constitutional. goddamnitsomuch
 
2013-01-27 01:15:34 PM  
Catherine Zeta Jones wanted for questioning.
 
2013-01-27 01:18:32 PM  

BronyMedic: I'm confused here about something. Baltimore actually has police officers which set there and review traffic camera photos, and issue citations based on it? Really?

Memphis and the burbs contracted the work out to a third party vendor because they couldn't keep up with it, and we're a lot smaller than Baltimore. Damn.


Probably a legal thing, something somewhere in Marylands laws about citations having to be issued by an officer. I know a lot of people have tried to fight camera tickets on sixth amendment grounds.
 
2013-01-27 01:20:06 PM  
Places have had 'speed camera vans' that the guy sleeping or reading in the back of the van will swear in court that he saw every image captured as it happened and therfor the ticket is valid.

/Bureaucrats: "the ticket is valid. See theres a signature on it. And no farking way will we let you see the corpse that signed it to confirm he signed or stamped it with his signature. Oh not corpse, I mean the officer who is sick at this time and please forget that he is dead."
//Make it hard or expensive to contest a ticket and stupid people will stop contesting the daily bullshiat and pay their tribute.
 
2013-01-27 01:22:04 PM  
There once was a cop on the force
Who signed many tickets while a corpse
This was not lawful
Folks cried "it's awful!"
The city did nothing, of course
 
2013-01-27 01:27:03 PM  

HenryFnord: constitutional. goddamnitsomuch


accuser. Iz hokay.
 
2013-01-27 01:28:46 PM  

Farxist Marxist: HenryFnord: constitutional. goddamnitsomuch

accuser. Iz hokay.


yeah that too. I shoulda stayed in bed.
 
2013-01-27 02:04:22 PM  
Just hang an old tire around the speed camera, spray some lighter fluid, and light it up.
 
2013-01-27 02:09:17 PM  
1. Plead not guilty
2. Call witnesses
3. Police send affidavit stating that officer has been deceased since X date.
4. Point out signature date on ticket
5. Have judge "throw out" your evidence as irrelevant
6. Get convicted anyway
7. Appeal, have it upheld
8. pay ticket because you can't afford further appeals.
9. They make you pay court costs also

is this about right?
 
2013-01-27 02:31:24 PM  

mrlewish: 1. Plead not guilty
2. Call witnesses
3. Police send affidavit stating that officer has been deceased since X date.
4. Point out signature date on ticket
5. Have judge "throw out" your evidence as irrelevant
6. Get convicted anyway
7. Appeal, have it upheld
8. pay ticket because you can't afford further appeals.
9. They make you pay court costs also

is this about right?


Yup.

The courts don't care. The courts don't give a fark.
 
2013-01-27 02:33:17 PM  
And the people don't care because nobody ever fights a ticket by saying, "no I didn't do this thing that you're writing a ticket for," They fight it by saying "but you did your paperwork wrong!"

So sympathy for these folks is generally lacking.
 
2013-01-27 03:13:36 PM  

dv-ous: And the people don't care because nobody ever fights a ticket by saying, "no I didn't do this thing that you're writing a ticket for," They fight it by saying "but you did your paperwork wrong!"

So sympathy for these folks is generally lacking.


I may not have sympathy for people who get out of tickets on technicalities. However I would like some assurance that to be convicted of a crime, the government actually has to do their job and prove I did it. Instead of putting a bag over my head on the street, parading me on Faux News, and dumping me in Gitmo for the rest of my life.

/or making up bs tickets
//it's all about precedent
///third slashie just to fight the powa'
 
2013-01-27 03:25:31 PM  
mrlewish:

1. Plead not guilty
2. Call witnesses
3. Police send affidavit stating that officer has been deceased since X date.
4. Point out signature date on ticket
5. Have judge "throw out" your evidence as irrelevant
6. Get convicted anyway
7. Appeal, have it upheld
8. pay ticket because you can't afford further appeals.
9. They make you pay court costs also

is this about right?


Not in Virginia. A ticket has to be served in person by an LEO. Those red light tickets they mail out? Directly in the trash.
 
2013-01-27 03:39:44 PM  
(3)?
 
2013-01-27 05:00:41 PM  

BronyMedic: vpb: Well, the signature on my dollar bill is clearly false, since it has Geithner's signature on it and he isn't the Treasure Secretary any more, and it looks like it was printed to me.

So that means it's forged right?

I'm willing to bet whatever monitor watcher gets paid to do this had a signature stamp from the officer assigned to oversee the operation as a contractor, and they never changed the stamp after he died. I find it hard to believe they were intentionally hand-signing his name to 2000 tickets.


Agreed. However, that would mean that *ALL* of them were actually forged.

Benevolent Misanthrope: As noted above - non-issue.  The contractor has a signature stamp, or more likely a set of stamps, one of them didn't get replaced after the officer died, some shyster contacted a reporter he knows to "blow this story up" and save his client a few bucks.

I mean, I hate the idea of red light cameras as much as anyone, but come on.  This is just legalistic bullshiat.


No, that means they are *ALL* fake.

I'd like to see a RICO suit here. Make the city pay back everything 3x.
 
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