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(WBTW Myrtle Beach)   I, your local county sheriff, will not be confiscating your guns as ordered to by President Obama because 1) he hasn't done that, nor would he use local law enforcement anyway, and B) I'd really like to stop getting calls from paranoid rednecks   (www2.wbtw.com) divider line 217
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2013-01-27 08:38:52 AM  
That is an incredibly well-written letter. Well said, Sheriff!
 
2013-01-27 08:45:03 AM  
 When and if the time comes to act or not act, we will do so given our best analysis of Constitutional principles involved and under the circumstances which exist at the time

Sounds like the Sheriff inserted that line to calm down the idiots screaming about "the gubmint gonna take away my guns" crowd.  OR... it might be something a bit more ominous.  Does the Sheriff do his best analysis of the Constitutional principles involved when it comes to enforcing existing laws?
 
2013-01-27 09:13:07 AM  
I love that people buy guns to feel safe and brave only to actually become paranoid, bed wetting, nut jobs.

Seriously. If the first thing you do after buying a gun is worry about the government coming to take that gun away, maybe you should give yourself some peace of mind and return the damn thing.
 
2013-01-27 09:24:28 AM  
Obama already has the right to take 'yer guns, it's called the Patriot Act.  I didn't see the NRA and the conservative pundits go crazy when that law was passed, though.  I guess it's all just bullsh*t anyways, anyone with half a braincell can see that.
 
2013-01-27 09:58:51 AM  

Nofun: I guess it's all just bullsh*t anyways, anyone with half a braincell can see that.


Been thinking about selling my Bushmaster right now at these inflated prices. Just buy the same or better model back when the prices plummet. No way can these prices hold, and Congress can't even pass a budget or a Farm Bill. They ain't gonna pass sh*t about guns.

Ammo is going for almost $1 per round. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=327187099

No way can these prices hold when they realize Congress is incapable of acting on any goddamn thing.
 
2013-01-27 10:00:59 AM  
Arpaio IS a paranoid redneck
 
2013-01-27 10:02:32 AM  
This is how Muslin McKenya HUSSEIN Fartb0ngo plans to lull you sheeple into a false sense of security, so he can steal your guns! Don't fall for it!
 
2013-01-27 10:06:40 AM  
Rhetoric on both side of the political spectrum is both understandable and predictable. How the discussion will play out is unknown at this time. What we know however, is that this office will always stand for and enforce the rule of law.

It is not possible, nor is it practical to predict what we will do in a hypothetical situation. Nothing in the recent Executive Orders from the White House appears to impact local law enforcement. When and if the time comes to act or not act, we will do so given our best analysis of Constitutional principles involved and under the circumstances which exist at the time.


Sounds like a rational person to me.
 
2013-01-27 10:12:05 AM  

BunkyBrewman:  When and if the time comes to act or not act, we will do so given our best analysis of Constitutional principles involved and under the circumstances which exist at the time

Sounds like the Sheriff inserted that line to calm down the idiots screaming about "the gubmint gonna take away my guns" crowd.  OR... it might be something a bit more ominous.  Does the Sheriff do his best analysis of the Constitutional principles involved when it comes to enforcing existing laws?


Yeah. That kind of phrasing always concerns me. It's never reassuring when someone in a position of power says they love the constitution so much, they'll ignore it when they find it helpful. You know. For your protection. They swear.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-27 10:12:52 AM  

Vodka Zombie: I love that people buy guns to feel safe and brave only to actually become paranoid, bed wetting, nut jobs.

Seriously. If the first thing you do after buying a gun is worry about the government coming to take that gun away, maybe you should give yourself some peace of mind and return the damn thing.


It's the other way around.  They buy guns because they are paranoid bed wetting nut jobs, and the NRA makes a killing by stirring up their fear.
 
2013-01-27 10:52:08 AM  
That's not what faceclub told me.
 
2013-01-27 10:53:35 AM  
FTFA:As your Sheriff, I urge everyone to take a breath and a break from all the rhetoric and allow this debate to take place through the political process.  That process allows for your voice to be heard through your elected representatives in Congress and at the State House.  Let them hear from you. In the interim we will be enforcing the law as it currently exists.

This man sounds level headed, rational, and calm. Clearly he has no place in American Politics given what I've learned on FARK.

Everyone. Both sides. Need to heed his advice, and let themselves be ruled by facts and not by chain emails and rhetoric from special interests which have obvious conflicts of interest.
 
2013-01-27 11:01:26 AM  

BronyMedic: Everyone. Both sides. Need to heed his advice, and let themselves be ruled by facts and not by chain emails and rhetoric from special interests which have obvious conflicts of interest.


I did that the other night when I let booze do the talking for me. Issued an apology in the other thread, but wanted to make sure I said it again. Sorry for being an asshole the other day.

There's a lot of emotion to this debate for many reason and most of them are the knee-jerk reaction types. I don't really want them to ban any kind of weapon or size clip, magazine whatever nomenclature you want to use. Though, I would highly recommend the H&K 30-rnd mag for 5.56mm. Their springs are super awesome. Just great overall construction compared to those stamped metal pieces of crap. Probably cost a pretty penny today, got mine for $20 ea 4-5 years ago.

I enjoyed the Sheriff's letter and wish we could all approach this debate from the same frame of mind. Also, we have to admit that Congress is not going to pass anything on this. They will introduce legislation, but they'd have to attach it to something else to get it passed. No one can be 100% certain, but I just don't see these people passing anything like AWB in the 113th Congress.
 
2013-01-27 11:03:35 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I did that the other night when I let booze do the talking for me. Issued an apology in the other thread, but wanted to make sure I said it again. Sorry for being an asshole the other day.


I called you out, and I was told by a lot of people you're a pretty cool dude, and bad enough to rescue the President. I make the , so you're awesome in my book.
I've mistake of posting when I've had one too many Margaritas at times, so I understand completely.

NewportBarGuy: Though, I would highly recommend the H&K 30-rnd mag for 5.56mm. Their springs are super awesome. Just great overall construction compared to those stamped metal pieces of crap. Probably cost a pretty penny today, got mine for $20 ea 4-5 years ago.


H&K makes some quality guns. I've debated getting a USP for concealed carry versus a Walther. It's a trade up at the moment.
 
2013-01-27 11:05:43 AM  

BronyMedic: I called you out, and I was told by a lot of people you're a pretty cool dude, and bad enough to rescue the President. I make the , so you're awesome in my book.
I've mistake of posting when I've had one too many Margaritas at times, so I understand completely.


I really, REALLY, hate the new FARK formatting system now.

That wasn't even engrish.
 
2013-01-27 11:09:20 AM  
Isn't this the same group of flag waving patriots, demanding that police ask for 'papers' from Hispanics and Native Americans awhile back?
 
2013-01-27 11:23:30 AM  
NewportBarGuy:
Been thinking about selling my Bushmaster right now at these inflated prices.
Ammo is going for almost $1 per round.



I've been thinking about selling too.  Some of my toys are on auction places for twice what I paid.

And I got a shocker - I check supply store prices to get a feel for how bad this panic-buying has gotten.  Example - one place had 1000 green-tip 5.56 for $499 in November. $999 in December, $1299 in January.  But one place I checked yesterday had this in their rifle ammo section, which floored me:

223 Rem / 5.56mm NATO
There are no products to list in this category.
 
2013-01-27 11:27:47 AM  

Godscrack: Isn't this the same group of flag waving patriots, demanding that police ask for 'papers' from Hispanics and Native Americans awhile back?


That's what I hate about both extremes.  One side enshrines the Second while pissing on the Fourth and Fifth, and the other side does the opposite.  I think the PATRIOT Act is just as much of an abomination as Feinstein's recent gun bill.  All of the amendments mean what they say, and everyone should fight to stop any of them from being whittled away.  I am sick of quartering soldiers in my house.
 
2013-01-27 11:29:15 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Nofun: I guess it's all just bullsh*t anyways, anyone with half a braincell can see that.

Been thinking about selling my Bushmaster right now at these inflated prices. Just buy the same or better model back when the prices plummet. No way can these prices hold, and Congress can't even pass a budget or a Farm Bill. They ain't gonna pass sh*t about guns.

Ammo is going for almost $1 per round. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=327187099

No way can these prices hold when they realize Congress is incapable of acting on any goddamn thing.


Don't they sell conversion barrels and kits to down-size it into .22 WMR or .22 LR?
 
2013-01-27 11:45:04 AM  
The cherished right of law abiding citizens to keep and possess firearms for recreation, hunting and self-defense is uniquely American and the bedrock of freedom.

Meh, not really. The bedrocks of freedom are those enshrined in the first amendment: freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom to petition the government. Without those, it matters not one whit how unconstrained you are to bear arms as you will simply not be free in any meaningful sense of the word. Interestingly, the pro-gun rhetoric demonstrates this perhaps more effectively than anything the pro-gun control folks could ever come up with. "An armed society is a polite society" is a very high-brow way of saying an armed society is not a free society. How free can you be to express something true to yourself - like a controversial political position, or a minority religious belief - if you are acutely aware that people around you who would likely disagree with you are also probably armed, even if you yourself are armed as well?
 
2013-01-27 11:48:38 AM  

Kome: Meh, not really. The bedrocks of freedom are those enshrined in the first amendment: freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom to petition the government. Without those, it matters not one whit how unconstrained you are to bear arms as you will simply not be free in any meaningful sense of the word. Interestingly, the pro-gun rhetoric demonstrates this perhaps more effectively than anything the pro-gun control folks could ever come up with. "An armed society is a polite society" is a very high-brow way of saying an armed society is not a free society. How free can you be to express something true to yourself - like a controversial political position, or a minority religious belief - if you are acutely aware that people around you who would likely disagree with you are also probably armed, even if you yourself are armed as well?


Looking at history, he is actually quite accurate. America wouldn't exist as a nation had civilians not taken up arms they traditionally used to hunt and feed their families with. It's also an interesting point to note that American "minutemen" rifles, like the Kentucky Long Rifle, were far more accurate than the Enfield Muskets that the British brought to the field of battle because they were rifled to hunt with. 

You wouldn't have the freedom of the first today without the foundations which established the second. We'd have been a British colony again 20 years later when the War of 1812 happened.
 
2013-01-27 11:50:05 AM  

BronyMedic: Don't they sell conversion barrels and kits to down-size it into .22 WMR or .22 LR?


Of course they do! Especially because of this...:

syrynxx: And I got a shocker - I check supply store prices to get a feel for how bad this panic-buying has gotten. Example - one place had 1000 green-tip 5.56 for $499 in November. $999 in December, $1299 in January. But one place I checked yesterday had this in their rifle ammo section, which floored me:

223 Rem / 5.56mm NATO
There are no products to list in this category.


I was just looking over my ammo, and the prices I checked on just gunbroker, I've got like $4-5000 just sitting there. I remember when I paid $0.50 per round and thought I was being ripped off. Wow.

<b>Brony</b>, this was one of the reasons for those conversions as well, because of the savings in ammo. Not many people can blow off $1-200 per weekend at the range, or higher if they really like plinking. But, you could convert it if they ever did "ban" the upper receiver or however they would define that...

The ammo thing floored me. I have XM193 and XM955 out the wazoo. Think it might be time to cash some in. I wouldn't feel comfortable using the online sites, though. Guess I'll just call my local dealer. The guy lives my dream. He has a full shop that restores antique cars, gun sales with a place that is filled with antiques, and he has a huge charter fishing boat. I'll share because I think it's the coolest place I've ever been: http://www.yelp.com/biz/kanes-gun-shop-north-kingstown
 
2013-01-27 11:52:09 AM  

NewportBarGuy: BronyMedic: Don't they sell conversion barrels and kits to down-size it into .22 WMR or .22 LR?

Of course they do! Especially because of this...:

syrynxx: And I got a shocker - I check supply store prices to get a feel for how bad this panic-buying has gotten. Example - one place had 1000 green-tip 5.56 for $499 in November. $999 in December, $1299 in January. But one place I checked yesterday had this in their rifle ammo section, which floored me:

223 Rem / 5.56mm NATO
There are no products to list in this category.

I was just looking over my ammo, and the prices I checked on just gunbroker, I've got like $4-5000 just sitting there. I remember when I paid $0.50 per round and thought I was being ripped off. Wow.

<b>Brony</b>, this was one of the reasons for those conversions as well, because of the savings in ammo. Not many people can blow off $1-200 per weekend at the range, or higher if they really like plinking. But, you could convert it if they ever did "ban" the upper receiver or however they would define that...

The ammo thing floored me. I have XM193 and XM955 out the wazoo. Think it might be time to cash some in. I wouldn't feel comfortable using the online sites, though. Guess I'll just call my local dealer. The guy lives my dream. He has a full shop that restores antique cars, gun sales with a place that is filled with antiques, and he has a huge charter fishing boat. I'll share because I think it's the coolest place I've ever been: http://www.yelp.com/biz/kanes-gun-shop-north-kingstown


I plink with .22 LR. I've got a scoped Remington .22 Semi Auto (Not sure of the model number) and a Browning that loads from a tubular magazine that I love too. They're fun and cheap.
 
2013-01-27 11:58:30 AM  

BronyMedic: Kome: Meh, not really. The bedrocks of freedom are those enshrined in the first amendment: freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom to petition the government. Without those, it matters not one whit how unconstrained you are to bear arms as you will simply not be free in any meaningful sense of the word. Interestingly, the pro-gun rhetoric demonstrates this perhaps more effectively than anything the pro-gun control folks could ever come up with. "An armed society is a polite society" is a very high-brow way of saying an armed society is not a free society. How free can you be to express something true to yourself - like a controversial political position, or a minority religious belief - if you are acutely aware that people around you who would likely disagree with you are also probably armed, even if you yourself are armed as well?

Looking at history, he is actually quite accurate. America wouldn't exist as a nation had civilians not taken up arms they traditionally used to hunt and feed their families with. It's also an interesting point to note that American "minutemen" rifles, like the Kentucky Long Rifle, were far more accurate than the Enfield Muskets that the British brought to the field of battle because they were rifled to hunt with.
You wouldn't have the freedom of the first today without the foundations which established the second. We'd have been a British colony again 20 years later when the War of 1812 happened.


Oh, true, and there are many examples throughout history of successful armed rebellion. But it should be noted that those are historical examples for less industrialized times. And even modern examples of successful armed rebellion typically occur in less industrialized countries. However, we are no longer pre-industrial; we are in fact a leader of technological progress and development, with a dramatically higher standard of living than our historical counterparts. Many other countries are as well. That which was true of the past does not necessarily hold true for the present, in much the same way that in a couple of hundred years the most effective means of protecting our freedoms may very well be different than the most effective means we have at our disposal today.

As a counterpoint, look at some of the most effective social upheavals in the United States in the name of freedom and equality. The majority of those were non-violent. Civil rights, women's rights, gay rights, etc. The advances we've made in those areas have come about due to our freedom to speak, to assemble, to protest. Violence was not a particularly integral part, and when occurred (as happened too often) they were generally setbacks towards making progress for those minority groups to be treated and considered equal by the law and by society.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-27 12:01:51 PM  

Godscrack: Isn't this the same group of flag waving patriots, demanding that police ask for 'papers' from Hispanics and Native Americans awhile back?


Yep.  It's not tyranny when it applies to brown people.  Just like slavery wasn't tyranny.
 
2013-01-27 12:04:44 PM  

Kome: As a counterpoint, look at some of the most effective social upheavals in the United States in the name of freedom and equality. The majority of those were non-violent.


I honestly built my cache in the run-up to the financial crisis. My theory since that time has been that if that amazing confluence of events was not enough to destroy us, we are probably going to be just fine.

We are going to experience massive new demands on resources as people move up the social ladder around the world, but so far... we seem to be in an environment, in this country, where any kind of rebellion is not going to manifest itself in armed insurrection.

In short... Kick back, relax, and enjoy life.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-27 12:14:43 PM  
Kome:

Oh, true, and there are many examples throughout history of successful armed rebellion. But it should be noted that those are historical examples for less industrialized times. And even modern examples of successful armed rebellion typically occur in less industrialized countries. However, we are no longer pre-industrial; we are in fact a leader of technological progress and development, with a dramatically higher standard of living than our historical counterparts. Many other ...

The small arms used up until WW II by the military were pretty much the same as hunting weapons.  When you look at modern revolutions none of them involve hunting rifles.  In places like Libya and Syria and Romania it was the military either turning on the government or deserting and taking their weapons with them.

More to the point, the successful rebellions had widespread public support.  The vast majority of Americans would back the elected government against the right wing anti-government "patriots" anyway.

The Second Amendment was not intended to arm a disgruntled minority against the majority.
 
2013-01-27 12:16:36 PM  

Vodka Zombie: I love that people buy guns to feel safe and brave only to actually become paranoid, bed wetting, nut jobs.

Seriously. If the first thing you do after buying a gun is worry about the government coming to take that gun away, maybe you should give yourself some peace of mind and return the damn thing.


You can pry my gun from my cowering, urine-soaked hand, libtard!1!
 
2013-01-27 12:19:09 PM  

vpb: The small arms used up until WW II by the military were pretty much the same as hunting weapons.  When you look at modern revolutions none of them involve hunting rifles.  In places like Libya and Syria and Romania it was the military either turning on the government or deserting and taking their weapons with them.

More to the point, the successful rebellions had widespread public support.  The vast majority of Americans would back the elected government against the right wing anti-government "patriots" anyway.

The Second Amendment was not intended to arm a disgruntled minority against the majority.


This, too. People who use Syria and Libya as examples of a "disgruntled population rising up to throw off the shackles of Government" ignore the fact that they did so not with privately owned firearms, but because Gaddafi and Al-assad pissed off enough of their standing military that they walked away with their guns, and they had massive foreign influx of fighters and weapons.
 
2013-01-27 12:20:55 PM  
There are more important things to worry about than an unlikely scenario that's been dragged around town just to get the mouthbreathers all hot and bothered...
 
2013-01-27 12:25:31 PM  
I, for one, like the way this dovetails with the article on conservative paranoia.
 
2013-01-27 12:53:11 PM  
God, now would be the best time ever to get rid of some of these old bolt-action rifles. WE'RE STARTING THE BIDDING AT $5,000!
 
2013-01-27 01:00:25 PM  
According to my email inbox over the last four years. Obama has already seized all our guns 3 or 4 times now.

The sheriff can relax.
 
2013-01-27 01:31:30 PM  
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Which reminds me... When is the pedophiles of the TSA going to be dispatched in the schools? I hear that Sheriff Joe has a couple of pedos on his school watching squad.
People committing self defense against oppression by the tsa pedos is not a crime.
 
2013-01-27 01:32:41 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: God, now would be the best time ever to get rid of some of these old bolt-action rifles. WE'RE STARTING THE BIDDING AT $5,000!


I think the fear s more a ban on semi-auto rifles.

So those folks who a few years back bough AKs for $275 and rolling in profit selling them for 700+.
 
2013-01-27 01:33:07 PM  
DYK that the NRA supported the Patriot Act which allows Presidents to take your guns already? And that it was passed by Republicans? And that the Tea Party has no problem with this?
 
2013-01-27 01:38:49 PM  
I've tried to avoid gun threads because they get me stabby, but this one seems to be relatively rational. I'm a libby libtard, and I don't own a gun. I probably should learn to shoot a pistol and a rifle, just so I know how to use them, but I've never gotten around to it. Guns are interesting tools, and their history is fascinating, but it's not something I think about often.

However, I do understand the idea of a populace with the right to defend itself. I have no problem with self-defense or hunting or even shooting for fun. I just don't feel the need to carry. And I'm a little leery of having military-style weaponry in the hands of civilians who really have no reason to be using tools of wholesale killing, nor are properly trained in their use. If that makes me a rights-removing asshole pacifist, well, I don't know what to say to that.
 
2013-01-27 01:40:24 PM  

NewportBarGuy: No way can these prices hold when they realize Congress is incapable of acting on any goddamn thing.


They fail to realize it every other month. You might as well be selling these people gold.

Hell, you probably are selling these people gold.
 
2013-01-27 01:42:04 PM  

BronyMedic: Kome: Meh, not really. The bedrocks of freedom are those enshrined in the first amendment: freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom to petition the government. Without those, it matters not one whit how unconstrained you are to bear arms as you will simply not be free in any meaningful sense of the word. Interestingly, the pro-gun rhetoric demonstrates this perhaps more effectively than anything the pro-gun control folks could ever come up with. "An armed society is a polite society" is a very high-brow way of saying an armed society is not a free society. How free can you be to express something true to yourself - like a controversial political position, or a minority religious belief - if you are acutely aware that people around you who would likely disagree with you are also probably armed, even if you yourself are armed as well?

Looking at history, he is actually quite accurate. America wouldn't exist as a nation had civilians not taken up arms they traditionally used to hunt and feed their families with. It's also an interesting point to note that American "minutemen" rifles, like the Kentucky Long Rifle, were far more accurate than the Enfield Muskets that the British brought to the field of battle because they were rifled to hunt with.
You wouldn't have the freedom of the first today without the foundations which established the second. We'd have been a British colony again 20 years later when the War of 1812 happened.


I'm pretty sure we got our asses handed to us in that war and unless Napoleon had escaped to do his thing at Waterloo we would've been that colony again. We won the revolution because the Brits had the most inept possible leadership at the time and while the individual bravery of the minutemen should not be downplayed we really shouldn't have won that war either.

chrisnavin.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-27 01:44:58 PM  

BronyMedic: vpb: The small arms used up until WW II by the military were pretty much the same as hunting weapons.  When you look at modern revolutions none of them involve hunting rifles.  In places like Libya and Syria and Romania it was the military either turning on the government or deserting and taking their weapons with them.

More to the point, the successful rebellions had widespread public support.  The vast majority of Americans would back the elected government against the right wing anti-government "patriots" anyway.

The Second Amendment was not intended to arm a disgruntled minority against the majority.

This, too. People who use Syria and Libya as examples of a "disgruntled population rising up to throw off the shackles of Government" ignore the fact that they did so not with privately owned firearms, but because Gaddafi and Al-assad pissed off enough of their standing military that they walked away with their guns, and they had massive foreign influx of fighters and weapons.


When I think of a armed minority I think of the Sunni in Iraq
 
2013-01-27 01:50:38 PM  

theorellior: I've tried to avoid gun threads because they get me stabby, but this one seems to be relatively rational. I'm a libby libtard, and I don't own a gun. I probably should learn to shoot a pistol and a rifle, just so I know how to use them, but I've never gotten around to it. Guns are interesting tools, and their history is fascinating, but it's not something I think about often.


While not a liberal myself, I do believe (and as other gun-owning liberals have asserted) that the gun issue should not be divided between conservative and liberal. Every law abiding citizen has an ultimate duty to preserve and protect one's life. In fact, in my anecdotal experience, my liberal friends are generally more mistrustful of police authority. Therefore, it perplexes me that many of these people also support severe gun control. Keep in mind I'm speaking from personal experience, and your mileage may differ.

If you're looking to get into shooting (and you have little experience with the activity) I highly suggest taking a gun safety course. Even though I grew up in a family that hunts, and I received safety instruction from my father, he also made me sit through a hunter safety course as a child.

Now, let's talk hardware. You mention that you like the historical value of firearms. In that case, I suggest looking at the many military surplus options. What's your price range? If you feel like listening, I can suggest some good value priced firearms that you may be interested in.

/I like getting people into shooting
//It's a fun hobby, so have fun!
///But remember: safety first!
 
2013-01-27 01:51:44 PM  

Gosling: NewportBarGuy: No way can these prices hold when they realize Congress is incapable of acting on any goddamn thing.

They fail to realize it every other month. You might as well be selling these people gold.

Hell, you probably are selling these people gold.


Better act fast. Prices are slowly coming back down, as the idiot panic buyers realize that there won't be an assault weapons ban.
 
2013-01-27 01:51:52 PM  
As your Sheriff, I urge everyone to take a breath and a break from all the rhetoric and allow this debate to take place through the political process.

One of the most sane things I've seen in print since the Newtown horror.
 
2013-01-27 01:53:54 PM  
Very articulate and well-written.
 
2013-01-27 01:55:57 PM  
The people calling the Sheriff are the people who should not be having firearms in the first place.
 
2013-01-27 01:56:30 PM  

syrynxx: Godscrack: Isn't this the same group of flag waving patriots, demanding that police ask for 'papers' from Hispanics and Native Americans awhile back?

That's what I hate about both extremes.  One side enshrines the Second while pissing on the Fourth and Fifth, and the other side does the opposite.  I think the PATRIOT Act is just as much of an abomination as Feinstein's recent gun bill.  All of the amendments mean what they say, and everyone should fight to stop any of them from being whittled away.  I am sick of quartering soldiers in my house.


I was told by a reputable source that this hasn't happened in 191 years. They were lying? They must be part of the drive-thru lamestream lsm media media. At least FOX speaks to truth.
 
2013-01-27 01:59:29 PM  

Frank N Stein: Every law abiding citizen has an ultimate duty to preserve and protect one's life.


Exactly why I don't carry a gun.
 
2013-01-27 01:59:45 PM  
ERMAHGERD! ERBERMA WERNTS MY GERNS!
 
2013-01-27 02:03:12 PM  

syrynxx: NewportBarGuy:
Been thinking about selling my Bushmaster right now at these inflated prices.
Ammo is going for almost $1 per round.


I've been thinking about selling too.  Some of my toys are on auction places for twice what I paid.

And I got a shocker - I check supply store prices to get a feel for how bad this panic-buying has gotten.  Example - one place had 1000 green-tip 5.56 for $499 in November. $999 in December, $1299 in January.  But one place I checked yesterday had this in their rifle ammo section, which floored me:

223 Rem / 5.56mm NATO
There are no products to list in this category.


Are gun manufacturers cutting production to make the shortage worse while maintaining profits?

Oil companies do that from time to time...
 
2013-01-27 02:05:19 PM  
Sheriffs are a bit different than typical LEOs.

My sheriff will sign off my form 1s no sweat....the townies are a bit jackbooted though.

This is a growing trend...you might even find a list of LE agencies out there telling the feds to go screw in regards to gun control.
 
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