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2013-01-27 09:03:06 AM
Well with the exception of Empire and maybe Airplane, movies have improved.
 
2013-01-27 09:45:53 AM
The population by age graphic is interesting. And, as usual, the QB get the award when the defense was overlooked.
 
2013-01-27 10:42:32 AM
Damn, 1980 was a good year for movies.
 
2013-01-27 10:43:16 AM
Apparently I won't be seeing very many infographics today.

/still in that majority age group
 
2013-01-27 10:43:20 AM
The Hispanic representation in Congress has got to be one of the most interesting success stories over the past 2 decades.

The African American representation in Congress is not.
 
2013-01-27 10:44:27 AM
From Ron to Barry. The most interesting infographic you might see today

I do not think that means what you think it means...
 
2013-01-27 10:48:18 AM
You mean from Jimmy to Mid-Barry.

/Reagan didn't take office until 1981.
 
2013-01-27 10:48:47 AM

Mugato: Well with the exception of Empire and maybe Airplane, movies have improved.


However, the music has completely gone to shiat.
 
2013-01-27 10:49:35 AM
But what does Other Barry think about this?
 
2013-01-27 10:50:34 AM
Hmm. Sort of interesting. More curious about a comparison of economic numbers.
 
2013-01-27 10:50:57 AM

Silverstaff: Mugato: Well with the exception of Empire and maybe Airplane, movies have improved.

However, the music has completely gone to shiat.


Hell yeah. Nobody brought it like Captain and Tennille.
 
WD
2013-01-27 10:53:26 AM

Tarl3k: From Ron to Barry. The most interesting infographic you might see today

I do not think that means what you think it means...


You plan on viewing more infographics today?
 
2013-01-27 10:55:40 AM

A Terrible Human: But what does Other Barry think about this?


Who? White? or Manilow?
 
2013-01-27 10:57:32 AM

Slow of Wit: Hmm. Sort of interesting. More curious about a comparison of economic numbers.


What? The fact that bacon went up 311% is not important to you?
 
2013-01-27 10:59:08 AM
Wow, CNN, way to get this graphic WRONG! Last time I checked, Reagan didn't take office until 1981.
 
2013-01-27 11:02:49 AM
Why was the majority of that completely meaningless shiat like "Teams in the Superbowl" and "Top Pop songs"? You could compare any two years and that shiat's going to be different! Meanwhile, the graph of various industries relative to GDP and urban-rural shift is buried illegibly in the bottom corner. Way to report, CNN.
 
2013-01-27 11:02:53 AM

Catsaregreen: Wow, CNN, way to get this graphic WRONG! Last time I checked, Reagan didn't take office until 1981.


When was he elected?
 
2013-01-27 11:03:59 AM

Kyosuke: Catsaregreen: Wow, CNN, way to get this graphic WRONG! Last time I checked, Reagan didn't take office until 1981.

When was he elected?


Yup, it specifically says he was elected in 1980.
 
2013-01-27 11:05:05 AM

Mikeyworld: A Terrible Human: But what does Other Barry think about this?

Who? White? or Manilow?


You see other Barry, this is why we get no respect. No one knows who you are yet.
 
2013-01-27 11:06:04 AM

Land Ark: Kyosuke: Catsaregreen: Wow, CNN, way to get this graphic WRONG! Last time I checked, Reagan didn't take office until 1981.

When was he elected?

Yup, it specifically says he was elected in 1980.


whoosh...
 
2013-01-27 11:08:39 AM

Mikeyworld: A Terrible Human: But what does Other Barry think about this?

Who? White? or Manilow?


Bionic Barry is too busy talking to his Desert Eagle Mark VII and monitoring Archer to care about our petty Reagan/Obama comparisons.
 
2013-01-27 11:09:42 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The Hispanic representation in Congress has got to be one of the most interesting success stories over the past 2 decades.

The African American representation in Congress is not.


Are you looking at the same graph I am?

(8/4.3)*(11.7/14) = 1.55
(5.4/1.6)*(6.4/16) = 1.35

Looks like the African-Americans have increased their relative representation more than the Hispanic-Americans.
 
2013-01-27 11:10:41 AM

99.998er: Slow of Wit: Hmm. Sort of interesting. More curious about a comparison of economic numbers.

What? The fact that bacon went up 311% is not important to you?


What's with the colors for those charts? Most of them were illegible.

The one I could read was "Rate of Inflation"...279%. Someone seems to be confused about "rate" vs "amount".

For a more interesting infographic, see anything by Edward Tufte.
 
2013-01-27 11:11:57 AM
No personal computers, cell phones or internet back in 1980. Looking back, it was like being a caveman compared to today.
 
2013-01-27 11:13:13 AM

proteus_b: AverageAmericanGuy: The Hispanic representation in Congress has got to be one of the most interesting success stories over the past 2 decades.

The African American representation in Congress is not.

Are you looking at the same graph I am?

(8/4.3)*(11.7/14) = 1.55
(5.4/1.6)*(6.4/16) = 1.35

Looks like the African-Americans have increased their relative representation more than the Hispanic-Americans.


Now that you mention it, I went back and realized I misread the lines in that chart.

Not quite so rosy for the Hispanics, now that I read it right.
 
2013-01-27 11:14:29 AM
Wow, that was totally not helpful. Reminded me of VH1's I love the 80s with less substance
 
2013-01-27 11:16:00 AM

Gough: 99.998er: Slow of Wit: Hmm. Sort of interesting. More curious about a comparison of economic numbers.

What? The fact that the rate of the amount of bacon went up 311% is not important to you?

What's with the colors for those charts? Most of them were illegible.

The one I could read was "Rate of Inflation"...279%. Someone seems to be confused about "rate" vs "amount".

For a more interesting infographic, see anything by Edward Tufte.

 
2013-01-27 11:17:35 AM
Yeah, "interesting". Not "good", not "informative", not "useful", but definitely can't-look-away-from-the-accident-scene "interesting".

A graph of "consumer prices", labeled with percentages, and starting from zero? Fail. At least, I don't remember all the free bacon, houses and bananas in 1980.

They could've labeled it "consumer price increases", and while it still would have been a bad chart, at least it wouldn't have been wrong, exactly.
 
2013-01-27 11:21:10 AM

skinink: No personal computers, cell phones or internet back in 1980. Looking back, it was like being a caveman compared to today.


It was the best of times, it was the worst of times...
 
2013-01-27 11:24:28 AM
The first graphic explains everything. Republicans are willing to alter Social Security. Democrats will gut children and render their bodies for sale in order to continue funding Social Security. Thus, Democrats will continue to get elected to the Presidency for some time to come in the USA.
 
2013-01-27 11:25:47 AM

skinink: No personal computers, cell phones or internet back in 1980. Looking back, it was like being a caveman compared to today.


My TRS-80 would like a word.
 
2013-01-27 11:33:29 AM
wow, i have not even heard of 4 of the top 5 songs of the year. i've never heard of them at all. i knew i was out of touch, but i didn't think i was that out of touch. and the one song i have heard of (call me maybe) i haven't actually heard the song, i just know about it. maybe i should start listening to pop radio so i don't feel so left out.

oddly, i have seen exactly two of the top movies each from 1980 and 2012 (star wars, airplane, hobbit, skyfall).
 
2013-01-27 11:39:15 AM
I can kind of see music and movies reflecting cultural attitudes, but what did the sports crap have to do with anything?

Interesting to see how much of a service economy we were even back than though.

It also blew my mind that 31% of the country STILL thinks homosexual relationships should be illegal. I'd like to know how that poll question was worded. Useful to know that we don't really have a Bible Belt in the US...more of a Bible Corset.
 
2013-01-27 11:42:08 AM

jfarkinB: skinink: No personal computers, cell phones or internet back in 1980. Looking back, it was like being a caveman compared to today.

My TRS-80 would like a word.


www.boingboing.net
 
2013-01-27 11:50:38 AM
A lot has changed. For example, consider the following bold presidential quotes on gun control:

Here are my views on gun control:

Every year, an average of 9,200 Americans are murdered by handguns, according to Department of Justice statistics. This does not include suicides or the tens of thousands of robberies, rapes and assaults committed with handguns. This level of violence must be stopped.

I do not believe in taking away the right of the citizen for sporting, for hunting and so forth, or for home defense. But I do believe that an AK-47, a machine gun, is not a sporting weapon or needed for defense of a home.

This is a matter of vital importance to the public safety ... While we recognize that assault-weapon legislation will not stop all assault-weapon crime, statistics prove that we can dry up the supply of these guns, making them less accessible to criminals.

I think maybe there could be some restrictions that there had to be a certain amount of training taken.

With the right to bear arms comes a great responsibility to use caution and common sense on handgun purchases.

- Ronald Wilson Reagan
 
2013-01-27 11:56:40 AM

Silverstaff: Mugato: Well with the exception of Empire and maybe Airplane, movies have improved.

However, the music has completely gone to shiat.


Based on what they play on what's left of radio, as far as rock music goes, I agree with you. But I contend that pop music is neither better nor worse now than it was in the 1990s. 1980s, 1970s.....etc.  Not the pop music that kids under 17 listen to anyway.
 
2013-01-27 11:58:23 AM

jfarkinB: skinink: No personal computers, cell phones or internet back in 1980. Looking back, it was like being a caveman compared to today.

My TRS-80 would like a word.


So would my Atari 400 (800 was also out)
There are likely plenty of Apple][ users from said era.

/cell phones were car phones (late Ronnie regime). Think *BIG* cell phones.
//heard rumors of the ARPANET, didn't think it existed (wrong).
/// $5 per hour dial-up wasn't happening often.
 
2013-01-27 11:58:24 AM

enderthexenocide: wow, i have not even heard of 4 of the top 5 songs of the year. i've never heard of them at all. i knew i was out of touch, but i didn't think i was that out of touch. and the one song i have heard of (call me maybe) i haven't actually heard the song, i just know about it. maybe i should start listening to pop radio so i don't feel so left out.

oddly, i have seen exactly two of the top movies each from 1980 and 2012 (star wars, airplane, hobbit, skyfall).


You *are* out of touch. I know the top 3 and have heard the other two, and I listen almost exclusively to NPR.
 
2013-01-27 12:09:12 PM
Silverstaff: Mugato: Well with the exception of Empire and maybe Airplane, movies have improved.

However, the music has completely gone to shiat.


THIS 1980 had quite a few good albums released in it. Back in Black, Ace of Spades, British Steel, Iron Maiden, Blizzard of Oz, Heaven and Hell and thats just off the top of my head I'm sure there are more.
 
2013-01-27 12:16:46 PM
Off the deep end... have I gone.

Before clicking, I thought it pertained to Ron Paul & Barry Goldwater.

I'll be in my bunker.
 
2013-01-27 12:21:59 PM

Oldiron_79: THIS 1980 had quite a few good albums released in it. Back in Black, Ace of Spades, British Steel, Iron Maiden, Blizzard of Oz, Heaven and Hell and thats just off the top of my head I'm sure there are more.


Like I said before, rock music, of course. I'm a little out of touch to know what's going on right now in the underground/club rock scene but there is no radio rock right now and there hasn't been for a long ass time.
 
2013-01-27 12:23:56 PM

Mugato: Oldiron_79: THIS 1980 had quite a few good albums released in it. Back in Black, Ace of Spades, British Steel, Iron Maiden, Blizzard of Oz, Heaven and Hell and thats just off the top of my head I'm sure there are more.

Like I said before, rock music, of course. I'm a little out of touch to know what's going on right now in the underground/club rock scene but there is no radio rock right now and there hasn't been for a long ass time.


www.wdrv.com

you're welcome.
 
2013-01-27 12:37:56 PM
color me your color, baby
Color me your car
Color me your color, darling
I know who you are
Come up off your color chart
I know where you're comin' from
 
2013-01-27 12:43:45 PM
1980: American act, English act, American act, American act, American act
2012: Australian act, Canadian act, American act, American act, English act

80 40
 
2013-01-27 12:44:35 PM

skinink: No personal computers, cell phones or internet back in 1980. Looking back, it was like being a caveman compared to today.


Stupid people actually went out in public to have a good time. trogs
 
2013-01-27 12:54:33 PM

studs up: skinink: No personal computers, cell phones or internet back in 1980. Looking back, it was like being a caveman compared to today.

Stupid people actually went out in public to have a good time. trogs


People always think that everyone was so different in the good ole days. The same people who sit in front of computers now sat in front of the TV then. Sure when we all had to farm and shiat, people got outside more but that was a long ass time ago. Certainly not in the 1980s.
 
2013-01-27 12:57:09 PM

Mugato: there is no radio rock right now


The Black Keys would like a word. So would lots of other bands, but they're mostly awful.
 
2013-01-27 12:57:17 PM
Hey, math people.

So...if the amount of inflation over the last 32 years has been 279%, does that translate into an average increase of 8.7% in prices per year? Is that the same as the average rate of increase?

Why are we advised to use a 3% inflation rate in all of our retirement calculations? Seems overly optimistic.

//Maths - not really my thing.
 
2013-01-27 01:00:01 PM

emonk: //Maths - not really my thing.


Hmmm...just occured to me it could be a logrithmic thing, like compounding interest.

Zattit?
 
2013-01-27 01:10:40 PM

emonk: emonk: //Maths - not really my thing.

Hmmm...just occured to me it could be a logrithmic thing, like compounding interest.

Zattit?


Yes. The average rate of inflation, using those numbers, has been about 3.25%.

So what costs $1 in 1980 costs $1.0325 in 1981, and then 3.25% higher than that is $1.0660, and so forth until you get to that same thing costing $2.78 in the 33rd year.
 
2013-01-27 01:11:24 PM

studs up: skinink: No personal computers, cell phones or internet back in 1980. Looking back, it was like being a caveman compared to today.

Stupid people actually went out in public to have a good time. trogs


Most of the time back then we went to other people's houses (or hosted) to play games and/or BBQ/grill, bday parties, drink in the woods, have bonfires, go to rock concerts, the beach, amusement parks, or just outside to work on the yard or cars or...

TV was a 28 inch cathode ray tube in a wooden cabinet, nice as furniture.

We were BUSY back then, and there was a much richer social life in comparison.
 
2013-01-27 01:15:58 PM
I'm sorry, this infographic has got to be wrong. It says that the government is almost exactly the same size now as when St. Reagan was in office. I was told on VERY GOOD AUTHORITY that we're now the most socialist commie nation that ever socialized, because of Fartbongo and his commie socialist policies. That graph should have the government line going to AT LEAST 70% of the economy.
 
2013-01-27 01:16:22 PM

Mugato: studs up: skinink: No personal computers, cell phones or internet back in 1980. Looking back, it was like being a caveman compared to today.

Stupid people actually went out in public to have a good time. trogs

People always think that everyone was so different in the good ole days. The same people who sit in front of computers now sat in front of the TV then. Sure when we all had to farm and shiat, people got outside more but that was a long ass time ago. Certainly not in the 1980s.


You say that as if it is a fact. I'm fairly sure that if we cranked up the wayback machine and compared the amount of time kids spent outside in the 80s v. 10s, we would find a significant difference. The same goes for young adults at party times, Fri/Sat night. Quite frankly, you may be over estimating the quality of tv programming available way back when. Also, no remotes. The Horror.

I'm not saying there hasn't always been lazy anti social bastards in the basement, it is just a percentage question. Besides, our parents used to kick us out of the house, not helicopter around cooing about every precious moment by and large.
/Your experience may differ
 
2013-01-27 01:21:43 PM
One thing that has caught my attention for years in regards to inflation. The general lack of inflation for a 2 Liter of Coke/Pepsi.

99 cents in the grocery store around 1980. Around $1.20 or so these days. Crazier is that you pay more for a 20 ounce version of the same beverage.
 
2013-01-27 01:24:46 PM

skinink: No personal computers, cell phones or internet back in 1980. Looking back, it was like being a caveman compared to today.


wow, wrong on all three of those...
 
2013-01-27 01:29:05 PM

wrs1864: skinink: No personal computers, cell phones or internet back in 1980. Looking back, it was like being a caveman compared to today.

wow, wrong on all three of those...


Not for most people. My family didn't have a computer or internet until 1996 and no cell phones until 2001. We were earlier on both of those than most of my friends' families.

Also, a keen eye could spot a few differences between the 1980 incarnations of those things and what we have now, with the proper training.
 
2013-01-27 01:32:52 PM

Mugato: Oldiron_79: THIS 1980 had quite a few good albums released in it. Back in Black, Ace of Spades, British Steel, Iron Maiden, Blizzard of Oz, Heaven and Hell and thats just off the top of my head I'm sure there are more.

Like I said before, rock music, of course. I'm a little out of touch to know what's going on right now in the underground/club rock scene but there is no radio rock right now and there hasn't been for a long ass time.


In my opinion, we're currently living through a golden age of rock/pop music.

The problem is that we are also living through a golden age of media consolidation that is preventing anyone but hipsters from hearing new artists.
 
2013-01-27 01:36:48 PM
1980-1984 were the years I was in high school, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies....

There were certainly people talking about legalized marijuana use in 1980, and there was a sort of "wink-wink" "nudge-nudge" speakeasy attitude towards recreational marijuana smoking that went on, where if you were caught with minor amounts of the stuff the cops would just confiscate it if you weren't otherwise being an asshole and didn't mouth off to the cop. (And, presumably, where white.) Items associated with stoner culture were sold openly and it wasn't uncommon to have at least one record store in town that was a head shop as well. It wasn't uncommon to walk down the street in midtown Manhattan and smell someone puffing away.

That attitude all but disappeared with the shift in production and importation from marijuana (remember "Save the Bales"?) to cocaine. Other things that killed it were the heavy-handed enforcement efforts that accompanied the effort to eradicate the trade in crack, and widespread employment-related drug testing. In 1980 a lot of people assumed that MJ would be legal by the end of the decade; by the end of the decade, MJ legalization seemed nearly an impossibility.
 
2013-01-27 01:37:10 PM

studs up: You say that as if it is a fact. I'm fairly sure

 
2013-01-27 01:48:24 PM
Top Songs
1980: Call Me
2012: Call Me Maybe
2044: Consider Not Calling Me
2076: Don't Farking Call Me!
 
2013-01-27 01:49:03 PM

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: studs up: skinink: No personal computers, cell phones or internet back in 1980. Looking back, it was like being a caveman compared to today.

Stupid people actually went out in public to have a good time. trogs

Most of the time back then we went to other people's houses (or hosted) to play games and/or BBQ/grill, bday parties, drink in the woods, have bonfires, go to rock concerts, the beach, amusement parks, or just outside to work on the yard or cars or...

TV was a 28 inch cathode ray tube in a wooden cabinet, nice as furniture.

We were BUSY back then, and there was a much richer social life in comparison.


As someone who grew up in an extremely rural area, I couldn't disagree more.

I was the only nerd in a town full of.....perfectly nice....."rural folk".....and my world effectively began the day we were able to access dial-up internet.
 
2013-01-27 01:49:41 PM

LewDux: studs up: You say that as if it is a fact. I'm fairly sure


missing the point of your edit
 
2013-01-27 01:56:17 PM

wrs1864: skinink: No personal computers, cell phones or internet back in 1980. Looking back, it was like being a caveman compared to today.

wow, wrong on all three of those...


Listen, I know computers were out there but not widespread as they are now. How many households (What percentage of the population) back then compared to now had a computer? Or an internet connection? And how frequently did you see brick cellphones in use then? My point is at this time it's more common to see all three in someone's home than it would have been back then.
 
2013-01-27 02:26:32 PM

thurstonxhowell: wrs1864: skinink: No personal computers, cell phones or internet back in 1980. Looking back, it was like being a caveman compared to today.

wow, wrong on all three of those...

Not for most people. My family didn't have a computer or internet until 1996 and no cell phones until 2001. We were earlier on both of those than most of my friends' families.

Also, a keen eye could spot a few differences between the 1980 incarnations of those things and what we have now, with the proper training.


In 1980, I used primarily 60-bit computers with plasma panels and touch screens (CDC plato systems). We had games, forums (notes), email (pnotes), instant messenger (term-talk), etc.

Yes, today's systems have a huge amount more eye-candy, but in games, all too often eye-candy has replaced strategy/thinking. Actually, similar things could be said about forums/email/IM.

Yes, things have become both more common and cheaper now, but the key functionality of these systems have been around for many decades. We weren't "like being a caveman compared to today". Especially not when you think about all the anti-science people today. We may well be more like cavemen today.
 
2013-01-27 02:32:15 PM

studs up: LewDux: studs up: You say that as if it is a fact. I'm fairly sure

missing the point of your edit


1. You dismiss the other guy's claims for not having any facts or statistics to back it up.
2. You then immediately present your argument with opinion and postulations without having any facts or statistics to back it up.
 
2013-01-27 02:35:24 PM
Medical reefer, Maryland and DC dumbasses. How did you get Delaware and not Md?
 
2013-01-27 03:08:26 PM
It's almost as if the 19 year olds in 1980 were 49 (or dead) in 2010.
 
2013-01-27 03:13:50 PM

Slow of Wit: Hmm. Sort of interesting. More curious about a comparison of economic numbers.


The fact that gas has risen as much as homes and bacon was oddly compelling. On the one hand, it hasn't risen a thousand percent like I thought it had. On the other, holy fark homes and gas are expensive, ditto bacon.
 
2013-01-27 03:57:17 PM
How America Has Changed

Fewer people today know the chase music from The Benny Hill Show ("Yakkety-Sax") than at any time since the Inauguration of Ronald Wilson Reagan.

The Republican Party has gone over to the Dark Side. Batshiat insane opinions and beliefs once restricted only to gap-toothed hillbillies from the more depressed regions of the Ozarks are now current dogma in the GOP highest ranks and pushed by pundits loyal to the Voice of the Beast, FoxNews.

Television turned out to be a fad.

Cable TV used to be the primary source of pornography in hotels and motels. It is now a secondary purveyor of political pornography lifted wholesale from the web.

General Franco is still dead.
 
2013-01-27 04:42:10 PM
Reagan wasn't president in 1980. Oh no he wasn't. No. No. No. In 1980, Jimmy Carter was president. All year long. Get it right, CNN. When Jimmy Carter was president, even I was in the 0-24 age group. Not so when Reagan was president. That is all.
 
2013-01-27 04:49:58 PM

Mikeyworld: A Terrible Human: But what does Other Barry think about this?

Who? White? or Manilow?


Goldwater?
 
2013-01-27 06:05:15 PM

Kevin72: Mikeyworld: A Terrible Human: But what does Other Barry think about this?

Who? White? or Manilow?

Goldwater?


Bostwick?
 
2013-01-27 07:10:53 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: studs up: LewDux: studs up: You say that as if it is a fact. I'm fairly sure

missing the point of your edit

1. You dismiss the other guy's claims for not having any facts or statistics to back it up.
2. You then immediately present your argument with opinion and postulations without having any facts or statistics to back it up.


He made a statement postulated as fact.
I surmised and said so.
There is a difference.
 
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