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(Wired)   Man who was arrested at TSA checkpoint for having text of 4th amendment printed on his torso wins court case for false arrest and violation of his civil rights to the tune of $250,000   (wired.com) divider line 234
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2013-01-27 08:26:47 AM
Judge J. Harvie Wilkinson, kiss my pale, freckled, pimply, hairy white ass.
 
2013-01-27 08:36:06 AM

illannoyin: [img.photobucket.com image 799x460]


I've always wondered: why was the cucumber wrapped in aluminum foil?
 
2013-01-27 08:45:12 AM

planes: [www.global-air.com image 150x195]

Underwear sporting the 4th Amendment, with metallic ink is designed to show up on the computer screen of your friendly TSA full-body scan evaluator. (new window)


I think it would be better if it said "The person reading this is a dick."

Or "Is looking at naked people in the name of security theatre how you get your tiny penis hard?"
 
2013-01-27 08:51:25 AM

Mayhem_2006: planes: [www.global-air.com image 150x195]

Underwear sporting the 4th Amendment, with metallic ink is designed to show up on the computer screen of your friendly TSA full-body scan evaluator. (new window)

I think it would be better if it said "The person reading this is a dick."

Or "Is looking at naked people in the name of security theatre how you get your tiny penis hard?"


plenty of people travel several times per week, there's a market :P
 
2013-01-27 09:03:36 AM
According to the suit, while under interrogation, the authorities wanted to know "about his affiliation with, or knowledge of, any terrorist organizations, if he had been asked to do what he did by any third party, and what his intentions and goals were."

I would simply respond to each of these questions by saying, "that's a stupid question."
 
2013-01-27 09:04:34 AM

ExcaliburPrime111: I suspect that people are defending this kid for a very valid, though ultimately incorrect reason.

I have to fly a few times a year, and I do feel a loss of dignity as I stand in line, waiting for the opportunity to take off my shoes, take out my laptop, and dump my belongings into several of the plastic trays. I feel annoyed that I must submit to these indignities, to smile and be polite to the screening officers when I show my ID and go through the metal detector, raising my hands above my head as if I am some sort of criminal, and then hastily reassembling my luggage and wearing my shoes. All while smiling, lest I look too angry, lest I get approached by a TSA officer (who may or may not have finished high school) might ask if anything is wrong, lest I vent into his/her face saying that this is inhuman and I feel criminalized for wanting to fly from Point A to Point B, and then have to miss my flight because I opened my mouth.

I get it. We all get it.

All that said, I can't think of a better way to screen people and to reduce the possibility of terrorist attack or transport of harmful substances. The kid in this case created a scene in a security screening area by taking off most of his clothes in a public area that is not a beach. He was briefly detained, screened, and did not miss his flight. I see no case for him, and more importantly, his "winning" will not change any of the feelings that I or any of us might have that I described in the previous paragraph.


[on soapbox]
I quit flying when they got those body scanners. I'll fly again when they stop using them. Fourth Amendment does mean something. Unfortunately too many people are willing to give up their privacy rights for just about anything anymore. For the people removing these rights, it's the smart way to do it.. a little at a time and through fear. The next generation will never miss the liberties that have been lost, because they never had them in the first place.
[off soapbox]

/puts on Hazmat suit
 
2013-01-27 09:06:07 AM

diaphoresis: ExcaliburPrime111: I suspect that people are defending this kid for a very valid, though ultimately incorrect reason.

I have to fly a few times a year, and I do feel a loss of dignity as I stand in line, waiting for the opportunity to take off my shoes, take out my laptop, and dump my belongings into several of the plastic trays. I feel annoyed that I must submit to these indignities, to smile and be polite to the screening officers when I show my ID and go through the metal detector, raising my hands above my head as if I am some sort of criminal, and then hastily reassembling my luggage and wearing my shoes. All while smiling, lest I look too angry, lest I get approached by a TSA officer (who may or may not have finished high school) might ask if anything is wrong, lest I vent into his/her face saying that this is inhuman and I feel criminalized for wanting to fly from Point A to Point B, and then have to miss my flight because I opened my mouth.

I get it. We all get it.

All that said, I can't think of a better way to screen people and to reduce the possibility of terrorist attack or transport of harmful substances. The kid in this case created a scene in a security screening area by taking off most of his clothes in a public area that is not a beach. He was briefly detained, screened, and did not miss his flight. I see no case for him, and more importantly, his "winning" will not change any of the feelings that I or any of us might have that I described in the previous paragraph.

[on soapbox]
I quit flying when they got those body scanners. I'll fly again when they stop using them. Fourth Amendment does mean something. Unfortunately too many people are willing to give up their privacy rights for just about anything anymore. For the people removing these rights, it's the smart way to do it.. a little at a time and through fear. The next generation will never miss the liberties that have been lost, because they never had them in the first place.
[off soap ...


aka "boiling the frog"

/sadface
 
2013-01-27 09:12:16 AM
And how much more money is TSA blowing on this bullshiat? The guy is not a terrorist and he's now nowhere near an airplane.

Get back to work.
 
2013-01-27 09:17:08 AM

one of Ripley's Bad Guys: I always opt out of the scanner. It is somewhat comical what a big deal some TSA agents make of it.


My pregnant wife didn't want to go through the scanners opting for a pat down, and the TSA agent kept telling her "it's ok to go through here pregnant" etc etc for about 5 minutes.

Moral: don't mess with a pregnant woman

/CSB
 
2013-01-27 09:24:39 AM

planes: [www.global-air.com image 150x195]

Underwear sporting the 4th Amendment, with metallic ink is designed to show up on the computer screen of your friendly TSA full-body scan evaluator. (new window)


Holy shiat that is awesome.
 
2013-01-27 09:26:58 AM
Do you admire this kid such that you'd be cheering for him when he causes you to miss your flight?
 
2013-01-27 09:34:08 AM

illannoyin: [img.photobucket.com image 799x460]


What's wrong with being sexy?
 
2013-01-27 09:41:46 AM
Here's my cleansed, non-SSI take on TSA. First of all, most of the people I worked with were hard working, empathetic, sane, reasonable, intelligent, educated people. We had a few nervous Nelliys who would have a bag check on every other passenger but by and large we tried to keep folk moving.

Secondly, I think if there were methods and means to do the job better those methods would be implemented. Its simply the nature of the beast right now. If you have a mouse problem and you have to lay mouse traps all over your house you do it because there's no better way.

Thirdly, I can see how some people would be royally pissed about TSA as I've flown through some airports and I see what's being done particularly in the bigger airports so in closing I'd have to say that when I fly in a coupla weeks I'm going to be one of the passive smiley's who just wanna get through the experience with the least amount of residual angst.
 
2013-01-27 09:50:21 AM
So if I'm following this correctly, if I act like a total douche bag at the airport and get handcuffed for being a douche bag I can sue the TSA.

Good to know.
 
2013-01-27 09:50:47 AM

planes: [www.global-air.com image 150x195]

Underwear sporting the 4th Amendment, with metallic ink is designed to show up on the computer screen of your friendly TSA full-body scan evaluator. (new window)


Sold out.
 
2013-01-27 09:55:03 AM
If you don't let the TSA feel your children's genitals, the terrorists win.
 
2013-01-27 09:55:25 AM

tonguedepressor: Secondly, I think if there were methods and means to do the job better those methods would be implemented. Its simply the nature of the beast right now. If you have a mouse problem and you have to lay mouse traps all over your house you do it because there's no better way.


Except we don't have a mouse problem.
 
2013-01-27 09:56:20 AM

Animatronik: Do you admire this kid such that you'd be cheering for him when he causes you to miss your flight?


Each time I go to the airport, I'm aware I may not depart on time for any number of reasons, many of them TSA-related.

Affirming the Fourth Amendment is among the pleasanter possibilities.
 
2013-01-27 10:07:43 AM

moothemagiccow: FTFJudge: Tobey's antics diverted defendants from their passenger-screening duties for a period, a diversion that nefarious actors could have exploited to dangerous effect.

What's the line, again? "Shouldn't you be out catching bad guys?"


It's the TSA, so the lines are more like "Shouldn't you be stripsearching a 90 year old white woman?", or "Shouldn't you be stripsearching a 3 year old white toddler"?, or, if the TSA agent in question is a female, "Shouldn't you be stripseaching a 14 year old white girl, and then demanding a full body cavity inspection, then polaroids, and dvds of the whole thing?"
 
2013-01-27 10:12:13 AM
TSA pat downs, available in Feel Around.
 
2013-01-27 10:25:50 AM

jtown: Alternative "grope-search" screening doesn't involve a strip search


Hmm.

Lets see what you got in there, big boy...
timeopinions.files.wordpress.com

Drop 'em... unless you don't wanna fly today
www.afterelton.com

Let me pull your shirt a little lower...
4.bp.blogspot.com

Let's irradiate you and see that Package...
images.dailytech.com

Thank god it's blurred:
politicalfailblog.com

The TSA evidently apologises for thing it doesn't do:
TSA admits wrongdoing in cases of two elderly woman who claim they were strip-searched

But, the TSA does not strip search people!!
www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com
 
2013-01-27 10:29:35 AM

bluefox3681: He was detained because he took his clothing off ....That would get you at least a disorderly conduct pretty much in any public area.


Arrest these people!!
cdn01.cdn.justjared.com
and these:
images.fineartamerica.com
and all these:
i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2013-01-27 10:31:25 AM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: tonguedepressor: Ask a guy who's worked for TSA 8.5 years anything.

Did you answer an advertisement for the job on a pizza box?


I think it was an ad on a gas pump:

nyc.indymedia.org
 
2013-01-27 10:37:27 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: BMulligan: Airports aren't private property.

Which is why you aren't searched before entering an airport. Only before boarding the airline's plane.


You're searched before entering the terminal. Which is part of the airport, which, as we've already established, is not private property.
 
2013-01-27 10:39:42 AM

I think I will write on my chest something like

I got yer package,
right here!
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|
V
 
2013-01-27 10:40:42 AM

HeartBurnKid: ThrobblefootSpectre: BMulligan: Airports aren't private property.

Which is why you aren't searched before entering an airport. Only before boarding the airline's plane.

You're searched before entering the terminal. Which is part of the airport, which, as we've already established, is not private property.


Also, you are not being searched by, or at the behest of, the airline, but by the federal government on their own volition. This is a classic Fourth Amendment violation, and if the world hadn't gone nucking futs over one security failure and decided that paranoia is the proper way to live, we'd recognize it.

The terrorists have accomplished their objective. We are well and truly terrorized.
 
2013-01-27 10:52:37 AM

tonguedepressor: Here's my cleansed, non-SSI take on TSA. First of all, most of the people I worked with were hard working, empathetic, sane, reasonable, intelligent, educated people.


Um, they worked for the TSA
Secondly, I think if there were methods and means to do the job better those methods would be implemented. Its simply the nature of the beast right now. If you have a mouse problem and you have to lay mouse traps all over your house you do it because there's no better way./i>

Get a cat.

You see, there IS an easier way. One a TSA employee was too dumb to see.
 
2013-01-27 10:57:06 AM
how many bad guys has the TSA caught? oh yeah, ZERO. and there have been bad guys that have made it through. enjoy your governmental psyop they're carrying out against y'all.
 
2013-01-27 11:03:01 AM

bluefox3681: He was detained because he took his clothing off in protest. That would get you at least a disorderly conduct pretty much in any public area.


You mean like a beach?
news.menshealth.com

Or a park?
farm9.staticflickr.com

Or a concert?
i148.photobucket.com

Or on the sidewalk?
www.tyrain.com
 
2013-01-27 11:11:01 AM

fredklein: bluefox3681: He was detained because he took his clothing off ....That would get you at least a disorderly conduct pretty much in any public area.

Arrest these people!!
[cdn01.cdn.justjared.com image 850x800]
and these:
[images.fineartamerica.com image 850x566]
and all these:
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 850x534]


There's Waldo!

TSA MUST DIE!
 
2013-01-27 11:16:33 AM

lohphat: And the home...of the....braaaaave!

/ashamed of a country whose response to terror was pants-shiatting capitualtion


The French still do it better.

TSA MUST DIE!
 
2013-01-27 11:17:09 AM
The dissenting opinion in this case is retarded. His actions drew TSA away from their security duties? Farkety Fark Fark.
 
2013-01-27 11:24:08 AM

snocone: lohphat: And the home...of the....braaaaave!

/ashamed of a country whose response to terror was pants-shiatting capitualtion

The French still do it better.

TSA MUST DIE!


I didn't remember posting in this thread, but it's nice to see I'm being quoted.
 
2013-01-27 11:26:34 AM

MurphyMurphy: themindiswatching: Weaver95: according to the TSA (and our authoritarian lovers of security theater), lawsuits like this shouldn't have gotten even this far.  if we don't gate rape EVERY passenger who gets on a plane, then the ENTIRE WORLD will come crashing down around us.  if we ask questions, we're terrorists.  if we protest - we are mocked, derided and our names are added to watch lists.

Meanwhile there are some people (mostly Freepers) who would be fine with the TSA if it only gate raped Muslims CHRISTIANS.



FTFY
 
2013-01-27 11:29:40 AM

Last Man on Earth: Yeah, this isn't a "win," strictly speaking. The DoJ is probably going to push for the full 15-judge panel for rehearing, and petition the SC if that's denied. It's a really good step for him, but it's far from over. Very interesting case, though. One of the attorneys on this is actually one of my professors, so I'm interested in seeing how this progresses.


DOJ will push for full panel.
Win or lose, the case would then got to SC. Both parties would be upset with a loss.
And the SC would rule that they stop screwing around and give the guy his due process and start the trial immediately. LOL

It will be interesting to watch either way.
 
2013-01-27 11:35:57 AM

Dahnkster: The dissenting opinion in this case is retarded. His actions drew TSA away from their security duties? Farkety Fark Fark.


Seems the judge has run out of lies.
And why waste the effort coming up with a new one?

Like Hill says, "What difference does it make?"
 
2013-01-27 11:38:34 AM

Sin_City_Superhero: bluefox3681: He was detained because he took his clothing off in protest. That would get you at least a disorderly conduct pretty much in any public area.

You mean like a beach?
[news.menshealth.com image 850x952]

Or a park?
[farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x481]

Or a concert?
[i148.photobucket.com image 548x442]

Or on the sidewalk?
[www.tyrain.com image 400x552]


Admit it, you just wanted to post those hot dudes. Especially the first one.
 
2013-01-27 11:43:19 AM
So did this guy get passed out drunk and his buddies write all over him?
 
2013-01-27 11:53:16 AM

Savage Belief: Judge J. Harvie Wilkinson, kiss my pale, freckled, pimply, hairy white ass.


Reagan appointee, and ideologically pure enough that he was on the SCOTUS shortlist when the chief justiceship came up in 2005. Surprised?

He's also the one who wrote the ruling in Hamadi v. Rumsfeld that got overturned by the Supreme Court. He's not exactly a fan of the 4th amendement.
 
2013-01-27 12:09:20 PM

BMFPitt: Good. I'll be flying in April and I plan on doing this.


Why would you? Are you an attention whore or just a dick? Both?

If you were in front of me and delayed my travel I'd soooo shake my fist at you.
 
2013-01-27 12:37:29 PM
In dissent, Judge J. Harvie Wilkinson wrote:

Had this protest been launched somewhere other than in the security-screening area, we would have a much different case. But Tobey's antics diverted defendants from their passenger-screening duties for a period, a diversion that nefarious actors could have exploited to dangerous effect. Defendants responded as any passenger would hope they would, summoning local law enforcement to remove Tobey-and the distraction he was creating - from the scene.

Hey, Wilkinson.

You want to know how I know you're a bought and paid for autocratic cocksucker?
 
2013-01-27 01:11:22 PM
It's sad that the dozens of people who are outraged at this will vote for the same Democrats and Republicans who created and will continue to fund the TSA.
 
2013-01-27 01:14:08 PM

tonguedepressor: Ask a guy who's worked for TSA 8.5 years anything.


McDonalds hasn't been hiring for 8.5 years there? Wow, low turnover!
 
2013-01-27 01:17:23 PM

Dahnkster: The dissenting opinion in this case is retarded. His actions drew TSA away from their security duties? Farkety Fark Fark.


The dissenting judge was a Reagan appointee, which will come to the surprise of nobody.
 
2013-01-27 01:31:23 PM

milk milk

lemonade

 
2013-01-27 01:34:58 PM
Call me when TSA actually catches a terrorist.

10 years with a ZERO success rate. What other federal agency would survive with that kind of record?
 
2013-01-27 01:36:05 PM

KidneyStone: Why would you? Are you an attention whore or just a dick? Both?

If you were in front of me and delayed my travel I'd soooo shake my fist at you.


Seriously THIS. It's just like when you get pulled over. While you're dealing with the police or faux-police, there at that moment is not the proper time to make a stand. It's afterwards, after all the evidence has been recorded, that you make your case and seek restitution.

Gumming up the works gets you pulled aside and the other few hundred people you're inconveniencing cheer.
 
2013-01-27 01:38:40 PM

eggrolls: Call me when TSA actually catches a terrorist.

10 years with a ZERO success rate. What other federal agency would survive with that kind of record?


Yeah call me when its their job to catch a terrorist.
 
2013-01-27 01:39:06 PM

Dansker: Amusement: The descending judge offered up a failed view by striking out at the young man for using up TSA resources at a time of need.

But he's the highest form of patriot...


The Highest form of patriot would be an ascending judge. The descending judge is floating down at the bottom (?).
 
2013-01-27 01:39:11 PM
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