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2013-01-26 09:11:47 PM  
A .25 round? Did it break the skin?

Seriously, those are the least powerful cartridges made. Shooting from a rifle makes them passable, but out of handguns they have about as much power as a subsonic .22LR round.
 
2013-01-26 09:12:09 PM  

Apos: THE GUN IS ALWAYS LOADED


People who can't understand this shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a gun.
 
2013-01-26 09:12:41 PM  

generallyso: Who is the guy with the hardon for gun threads that keeps approving these?


i45.tinypic.com

lol another pointless gun thread
 
2013-01-26 09:12:49 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: How the hell does one fire a pistol into their own palm when firing it by sliding the action?

Was he holding it by wrapping his hand around the end of the barrel?

Dude is insanely stupid or lying.


or lying to hide the fact he's stupid.
 
2013-01-26 09:13:19 PM  
Correction: Least powerful centerfire cartridges made.
 
2013-01-26 09:15:26 PM  

Altitude5280: I love this video. People running in a panic from what they adore.
Link


I'm waiting for one of these people to discharge their "empty" gun into their own foot, and for 35 people to spin around and light him up, and probably each other. With everyone with their itchy trigger fingers lately, a tragedy like that wouldn't surprise me at all. Much like if there had been 5 people with concealed carry weapons in the Aurora CO theater shooting. They wouldn't all know who to shoot, they'd just each see 5 other people with guns drawn, or "five targets".
 
2013-01-26 09:15:36 PM  
Wow! Sounds serious.

Hey, I wonder how many people died from alcohol today?
 
2013-01-26 09:16:18 PM  

feckingmorons: 18 people were murdered in Chicago in the first 10 days of the year. Nobody died at a gun show. If you want me I'll be at a gun show, they are obviously much safer than Chicago.


After comparing the population of Chicago to the population of a gun show, I think I'll take my odds in Chicago.

/plus it's exponentially more entertaining
 
2013-01-26 09:16:36 PM  
Is this the place where I suggest some people don't like guns because the guns are black?

/ why are you gunsist?

// proud owner of black and stainless guns
 
2013-01-26 09:17:31 PM  
Yeah it's almost like a bunch of gun noobs were created by the push to start banning guns. How's that gun control working out for ya?
 
2013-01-26 09:18:42 PM  

serpent_sky: vartian: The man told police he was trying to dry fire, or fire the gun without a round in it. He said the gun was unloaded when he checked it earlier in the week and he didn't know who would have loaded it. Police found another loaded gun on the man's table and unloaded it, according to the report.

He's lucky he just shot himself and didn't kill anyone else. How do you leave something like "the gun was unloaded a week ago" to chance?

I'm not a gun person and even I know the basic rules of "the gun is ALWAYS loaded" and "don't point a gun at anything you're not willing to shoot/kill."


Yep, but people are lazy.

-People don't wear seatbelts because they're just "Heading down to the store real quick."
-People don't wear helmets because "I'm just going to be out for a bit and it will mess up my hair."
-They cross in the middle of the road because "The cross walk is 50 yards away and I don't want to walk that far."
-They speed through a school zone because "Ugh, 20mph is too slow!"
-They pass school buses that are in the middle of loading/unloading students because "Damnit, not *again*, I'm sick of waiting behind this thing!"
-They drive way too fast on snowy roads because "I've got somewhere I need to be in normal driving time and can't be bothered to wake up 15 min earlier."


No one should be terribly shocked when someone with a gun does the same thing. I'm not saying they shouldn't berated for it, they should, repeatedly. But it's not worse than a lot of other stuff that gets caused by laziness either. And that's worth keeping in mind before you light the torches and get out the pitchforks.

/people are lazy
//this can make them do very stupid things.
///circle of life..and all that.
 
2013-01-26 09:18:44 PM  

BronyMedic: How hard is it to eject a clip, rack the slide and lock it back, and visually clear the chamber?


On some .25s, what you describe there will get the same results the dealer got.

...Some .25s have overly long firing pins, and the protruding firing pin is used in place of a separate ejector. So, cycling the slide with a live round is likely to set off the round.

That's why it's important to not just know the basic safety rules, but know the specifics of the particular firearm
 
2013-01-26 09:19:00 PM  

NewportBarGuy: generallyso: Who is the guy with the hardon for gun threads that keeps approving these?

It's like a NY vs. Chicago-style pizza thread.


NY obviously.
 
2013-01-26 09:19:01 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Someone in a country of 310,000,000 people had a stupid accident today?

I didn't. I don't have any guns. Coincidence? I wonder...
 
2013-01-26 09:19:23 PM  
Meanwhile, in Alabama...
 
2013-01-26 09:19:51 PM  
No charges were filed against the man. The gun was taken as evidence.

evidence of what exactly? Stupidity?
 
2013-01-26 09:19:54 PM  

xrayspx: Altitude5280: I love this video. People running in a panic from what they adore.
Link

I'm waiting for one of these people to discharge their "empty" gun into their own foot, and for 35 people to spin around and light him up, and probably each other. With everyone with their itchy trigger fingers lately, a tragedy like that wouldn't surprise me at all. Much like if there had been 5 people with concealed carry weapons in the Aurora CO theater shooting. They wouldn't all know who to shoot, they'd just each see 5 other people with guns drawn, or "five targets".


Doesn't the fact that this didn't turn into a bloodbath, kind of throw that little theory of armed citizens making the situation worse, right out the window?
 
2013-01-26 09:21:14 PM  
 
2013-01-26 09:21:30 PM  

feckingmorons: 18 people were murdered in Chicago in the first 10 days of the year. Nobody died at a gun show. If you want me I'll be at a gun show, they are obviously much safer than Chicago.


Well, no one died of a gunshot on Neptune either...
 
2013-01-26 09:22:52 PM  

Brubold: Yeah it's almost like a bunch of gun noobs were created by the push to start banning guns. How's that gun control working out for ya?


"An Iowa gun dealer was hospitalized after he accidentally shot himself in the hand before a gun show Friday afternoon at the Iowa State Fairgrounds."

First sentence.
 
2013-01-26 09:24:08 PM  

Dingleberry_Pie: Altair 2013-01-26 08:42:00 PM
I worked IT at a couple gun stores for about a year and two customers were shot in that time. Most are careful, but some people are cockystupid with guns.

I'm a gun owner, hunt, shoot a lot, been around guns all my life. I'm glad my dad taught me the basics at a young age and enforced them as we got older. I've been in a few gun stores since the buying panic has started and have been appalled at the morons that are in there buying. I wish that gun safety and hadling classes were mandatory for everyone in this country, not just owners and buyers. It should be treated like home economics in school, it's just a basic fact of life that you may be around a gun someday and you should know how to handle one safely without being frightened of it. And I shouldn't have to be worried about the knucklehead at the gun show that wants to sweep the crowd with the pistol he's looking at.


You know that Home Ec. isn't offered in most schools anymore right?

/but I agree, firearm training should be mandatory for everyone graduating high school.
 
2013-01-26 09:24:15 PM  
Hahahahahaha, I'm going to point and laugh at the brave warrior saving Americans from the New World Order. As soon as he can find his ass with either hand.
 
2013-01-26 09:24:15 PM  
In 15 years of going to gun shows I have never heard of this.

Then again with the amount of idiots with no clue what a gun is or does from recent shows I'd think it's not impossible.
 
2013-01-26 09:24:24 PM  

Click Click D'oh: BronyMedic: How hard is it to eject a clip, rack the slide and lock it back, and visually clear the chamber?

On some .25s, what you describe there will get the same results the dealer got.

...Some .25s have overly long firing pins, and the protruding firing pin is used in place of a separate ejector. So, cycling the slide with a live round is likely to set off the round.

That's why it's important to not just know the basic safety rules, but know the specifics of the particular firearm


That sounds like a "bug" and not a "feature". With a major design flaw like that, how do you reliably unload the damn thing? Can't you still lock the slide back and leave the chamber exposed to look for/unload a chambered round?

/Honestly asking
//Will keep this in mind if I ever handle a .25
 
2013-01-26 09:25:28 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Meanwhile, in Alabama...


Riddle me this...

If we should except everyone as equal; doesn't that, by it's very nature, include gun people?

And, if you don't; wouldn't that make you intolerant towards a group of people?

/ just sayin'
 
2013-01-26 09:25:41 PM  

lewismarktwo: generallyso: Who is the guy with the hardon for gun threads that keeps approving these?

[i45.tinypic.com image 500x324]
lol another pointless gun thread


... and the Tigers are playing... (drums hands on table) tonight!

/I'd buy that for a dollar.
 
2013-01-26 09:27:03 PM  
I love that the survivalists and gun nuts are out spending their money. Without realizing it, they're helping Obama to improve the economy, and they're doing it because he used reverse-psychology on them.

It's so sweet.
 
2013-01-26 09:29:27 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: xrayspx: Altitude5280: I love this video. People running in a panic from what they adore.
Link

I'm waiting for one of these people to discharge their "empty" gun into their own foot, and for 35 people to spin around and light him up, and probably each other. With everyone with their itchy trigger fingers lately, a tragedy like that wouldn't surprise me at all. Much like if there had been 5 people with concealed carry weapons in the Aurora CO theater shooting. They wouldn't all know who to shoot, they'd just each see 5 other people with guns drawn, or "five targets".

Doesn't the fact that this didn't turn into a bloodbath, kind of throw that little theory of armed citizens making the situation worse, right out the window?


Not really. It's something I'm worried might happen, not something that I'm positive must happen. It could just as easily happen that someone tries to pull off a mass shooting, and 5 people pull out their concealed weapons and no one but the bad guy gets hurt. I just said I think it'd be terrible if innocent bystanders accidentally shoot other innocent bystanders. I'm glad that cool heads have so far prevailed, I hope that trend continues.
 
2013-01-26 09:30:55 PM  

ZeroCorpse: I love that the survivalists and gun nuts are out spending their money. Without realizing it, they're helping Obama to improve the economy, and they're doing it because he used reverse-psychology on them.

It's so sweet.


Yeah, I don't think the 6 billion in annual revenue is going to put much of a dent in the economy.
 
2013-01-26 09:31:36 PM  

feckingmorons: vartian: feckingmorons: 18 people were murdered in Chicago in the first 10 days of the year. Nobody died at a gun show. If you want me I'll be at a gun show, they are obviously much safer than Chicago.

We agree - all guns are clearly very dangerous and should be regulated.

No, not all of the murders were with guns, 15 were, two were with knives and one guy was beaten to death. The common denominator is criminals. We need to better regulate criminals.


You're telling me that the parts of Chicago that are impoverished (West and South sides) are the parts with a crime problem?

i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-01-26 09:31:37 PM  

hundreddollarman: lewismarktwo: generallyso: Who is the guy with the hardon for gun threads that keeps approving these?

[i45.tinypic.com image 500x324]
lol another pointless gun thread

... and the Tigers are playing... (drums hands on table) tonight!

/I'd buy that for a dollar.


Tastes like baby food.
/biatches leave
 
2013-01-26 09:31:47 PM  
I've been to the IA State Fairgrounds gun show before, no doubt somebody got shot there.
 
2013-01-26 09:32:39 PM  

lewismarktwo: hundreddollarman: lewismarktwo: generallyso: Who is the guy with the hardon for gun threads that keeps approving these?

[i45.tinypic.com image 500x324]
lol another pointless gun thread

... and the Tigers are playing... (drums hands on table) tonight!

/I'd buy that for a dollar.

Tastes like baby food.
/biatches leave


Dead or alive, you are coming with me
/I LIKE IT!
 
2013-01-26 09:32:41 PM  
I've found people who are afraid of owning a gun are the same type of people who are afraid of heights. Basically they do not trust themselves not to have some momentary insanity and jump off the cliff or blow their brains out. A lot of people in here fall into that category and probably shouldn't buy a gun. Just don't assume everyone shares your fears.

islamicsunrays.com
 
2013-01-26 09:33:54 PM  

feckingmorons: jmadisonbiii: feckingmorons: 18 people were murdered in Chicago in the first 10 days of the year. Nobody died at a gun show. If you want me I'll be at a gun show, they are obviously much safer than Chicago.

Chicago should enact some tough guns laws.  That'll stop the violence.

They should make the whole city a gun free zone.


No, they should just allow people to carry a concealed weapon, look at the wonders that law has done with crime in places like St. Louis and Detroit (states which have CCW).

This argument is stupid.
 
2013-01-26 09:34:10 PM  

PanicMan: NewportBarGuy: generallyso: Who is the guy with the hardon for gun threads that keeps approving these?

It's like a NY vs. Chicago-style pizza thread.

NY obviously.


California.
 
2013-01-26 09:34:26 PM  
The gun don't care - it's always loaded.
 
2013-01-26 09:34:49 PM  

iheartscotch: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Meanwhile, in Alabama...

Riddle me this...

If we should except everyone as equal; doesn't that, by it's very nature, include gun people?

And, if you don't; wouldn't that make you intolerant towards a group of people?

/ just sayin'


When I pass a school I don't think, "Look at all those straight-A students!" When I pass a church I'm not sure it's filled with kind, thoughtful, spiritual people When I merge onto the highway I'm not confident I'm surrounded by competent, attentive and alert drivers.

Going by the daily dipsh*t like this guy and the one aiming at his daughter in yesterday's thread and the derp in these threads I'm thinking gun owners rate about the same kind of assessment. At this point I think advocating increased gun regulation would be the minimum requirement for "responsible gun owner."
 
2013-01-26 09:35:18 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Brubold: Yeah it's almost like a bunch of gun noobs were created by the push to start banning guns. How's that gun control working out for ya?

"An Iowa gun dealer was hospitalized after he accidentally shot himself in the hand before a gun show Friday afternoon at the Iowa State Fairgrounds."

First sentence.


Well, that is embarassing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pf3ID3XQ6o
 
2013-01-26 09:35:48 PM  

NewportBarGuy: generallyso: Who is the guy with the hardon for gun threads that keeps approving these?

It's like a NY vs. Chicago-style pizza thread.


I find those threads more entertaining.

Besides, everyone knows that Chicago-style is where it's at.
 
2013-01-26 09:36:31 PM  
 
2013-01-26 09:38:02 PM  

badhatharry: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Brubold: Yeah it's almost like a bunch of gun noobs were created by the push to start banning guns. How's that gun control working out for ya?

"An Iowa gun dealer was hospitalized after he accidentally shot himself in the hand before a gun show Friday afternoon at the Iowa State Fairgrounds."

First sentence.

Well, that is embarassing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pf3ID3XQ6o


So basically, trust no one?
 
2013-01-26 09:40:53 PM  
 
2013-01-26 09:45:31 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: badhatharry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pf3ID3XQ6o

Police say a 30-year-old man was accidentally killed during a game of quick draw at an automotive shop in Boaz.

PAT GARRETT.
I kid you not.


Sadly a lot of stories like that out there. I remember hearing about this one a while back:

http://www.wdaz.com/event/article/id/15841/

Long story short: I guess the takeaway is that private gun owners are no more or no less responsible than law enforcement officials.
 
2013-01-26 09:49:11 PM  

PanicMan: NewportBarGuy: generallyso: Who is the guy with the hardon for gun threads that keeps approving these?

It's like a NY vs. Chicago-style pizza thread.

NY obviously.


THAST NOT EVEN PIZZA IT SHOD BE CALD CHEEZ PIE
 
2013-01-26 09:49:34 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: iheartscotch: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Meanwhile, in Alabama...

Riddle me this...

If we should except everyone as equal; doesn't that, by it's very nature, include gun people?

And, if you don't; wouldn't that make you intolerant towards a group of people?

/ just sayin'

When I pass a school I don't think, "Look at all those straight-A students!" When I pass a church I'm not sure it's filled with kind, thoughtful, spiritual people When I merge onto the highway I'm not confident I'm surrounded by competent, attentive and alert drivers.

Going by the daily dipsh*t like this guy and the one aiming at his daughter in yesterday's thread and the derp in these threads I'm thinking gun owners rate about the same kind of assessment. At this point I think advocating increased gun regulation would be the minimum requirement for "responsible gun owner."


I submit that statistical outliers exist in every group. Such statistical outliers skew the results of any graph/study.

I, also, submit that judgments rendered based on statistical outliers would be illogical.

I, also, submit that criticizing the intelligence or penis size of any debate opponent would be counter-productive.

My point?

There are roughly 88 guns for every 100 Americans. Roughly 240,000,000.

This is a story about 1. I would define that as a statistical outlier.
 
2013-01-26 09:52:03 PM  
I don't think it's at all unreasonable to have at least the same level of regulation on firearms as there is on automobiles.

You have to register your car, it has to be insured ( against your ability to damage property and/or injure with it) , and you need a license to operate one. We all accept comprehensive, far-reaching safety regulation on cars without conflating it with a "government conspiracy" to take our cars away. People just need to start acting and speaking like bloody adults on this issue. It should be frigging easy.
 
2013-01-26 09:53:09 PM  

PanicMan: NewportBarGuy: generallyso: Who is the guy with the hardon for gun threads that keeps approving these?

It's like a NY vs. Chicago-style pizza thread.

NY obviously.


YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!!!

/not srs
 
2013-01-26 09:55:15 PM  
A well-regulated gun show, being essential to the security of dumbasses everywhere...
 
2013-01-26 09:55:31 PM  
I hear he was carrying the latest release of Call of Duty in his back pocket. These things are evil.
 
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