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2013-01-27 11:07:42 AM
That's one majorly English headline.
 
2013-01-27 11:10:00 AM
I've only seen him mentioned by a couple of people here, but Alex Lifeson is quite possibly one of the best more UNDERATED guitarists on the planet.
 
2013-01-27 11:14:20 AM

theorellior: All this time and no one's mentioned Bill Frisell?


or David Torn
 
2013-01-27 11:20:27 AM

Dogfacedgod: Wow, the dip shiat who said prince is #1..you should get kicked in the ball sack (or vagina).


Randy Rhoads
Tosin Abasi
Brian May
Jimi Hendrix
Tony Iommi
EVH (the fact you know who this is just by his initials means he one of the greatest)
SRV (Samsies)
Steve Vai
Dave Mustaine
David Gilmour
Angus Young
Robert Johnson
Duane Allman
Dimebag
John Petrucci (and I hate this cocksucker)
Ritchie Blackmore
Vivian Campbell
Slash
Buddy Guy
Frank Zappa
Eric Clapton
B.B. King
Chet Atkins
Jerry Cantrell
Keith Richards
Michael Schenker
Chuck Berry
Eric Johnson
Jimmy Page
Jeff Beck
Santana
Michael Schenker
Joe Satriani
Jimmy Page
Al Di Meola
Joe Walsh
John Lee Hooker
Chuck Schuldiner
Alex Skolnick
George Lynch
Jeff Loomis
Nuno Bettencourt

ALL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prince, fark I am sure I even missed a few who are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prince. fark that guy and fark you.


Mustaine!? At least you put Gilmour on the list. Check out Tim Reynolds for a good time (i'd check out a live version of the song "stream"). BTW, Prince or whatever his name is happens to be an amazing guitarist.
 
2013-01-27 12:43:20 PM
I have to say that I'm impressed I haven't seen David Gilmour or Joe Bonamassa show up on anyone's lists. When those guys start a solo, you know exactly who it is--their sound and style is completely unique.
 
2013-01-27 12:47:08 PM
I'll just leave this here. Blouses win.
Prince
 
2013-01-27 01:11:43 PM

Mikey1969:
Nuno Bettencourt? What did you do? Find your favorite bands and look up the guitarist? Sure, Extreme has some good songs, but there's nothing special about Bettencourt.


I'm not an Extreme fan, but Nuno can farking play. Do your homework before you make a comment like this, kthxbye.
 
2013-01-27 01:16:34 PM

Funbags: From a virtuosity standpoint, Prince is first and its not even close.

/Cobain is outside the top 20
//Van Halen is outside the top 100.
///I dare any Farker to disagree that there are no fewer than 100 more skilled guitarists than Eddie Van Halen, who is in fact, a mediocre guitar player
////Come on, out yourselves.


Since you are a musical idiot, it would be pointless to argue with you. We may win an argument with a retard, but you're still a retard. Prince is a great player. No question about that. Hell, he is probably as proficient in 20 other instruments as well because he's a musical freak of nature. But the rest? It would be more fun to debate the 100 different ways you are a moron.
 
2013-01-27 01:23:18 PM
I'll chime in and agree that whomever stated Prince is "average" might as well just shut up because anything you say beyond that is immediately invalid.

Some great names already listed here, but I didn't see anyone mention Stanley Jordan. I don't think he's the greatest, but he deserves to be added to the list.

Fairly recent.

/kudos for those who mentioned Chet and Roy
 
2013-01-27 01:26:01 PM

Farkomatic: Mikey1969:
Nuno Bettencourt? What did you do? Find your favorite bands and look up the guitarist? Sure, Extreme has some good songs, but there's nothing special about Bettencourt.

I'm not an Extreme fan, but Nuno can farking play. Do your homework before you make a comment like this, kthxbye.


He's not in the Rock God pantheon though. I stated that he was good, just not that he is an Elder God. There are far more amazing guitarists out there.

Read a post before you make a comment like this.
 
2013-01-27 02:14:39 PM

Mikey1969: Farkomatic: Mikey1969:
Nuno Bettencourt? What did you do? Find your favorite bands and look up the guitarist? Sure, Extreme has some good songs, but there's nothing special about Bettencourt.

I'm not an Extreme fan, but Nuno can farking play. Do your homework before you make a comment like this, kthxbye.

He's not in the Rock God pantheon though. I stated that he was good, just not that he is an Elder God. There are far more amazing guitarists out there.

Read a post before you make a comment like this.


Sorry - I was just responding to what you said - that there is nothing special about Bettencourt's playing. You were wrong then and you're wrong now. Sure, there are better out there. But not many. And again, I say this as someone that couldn't care less about Extreme.
 
2013-01-27 02:31:00 PM

Farkomatic: Mikey1969: Farkomatic: Mikey1969:
Nuno Bettencourt? What did you do? Find your favorite bands and look up the guitarist? Sure, Extreme has some good songs, but there's nothing special about Bettencourt.

I'm not an Extreme fan, but Nuno can farking play. Do your homework before you make a comment like this, kthxbye.

He's not in the Rock God pantheon though. I stated that he was good, just not that he is an Elder God. There are far more amazing guitarists out there.

Read a post before you make a comment like this.

Sorry - I was just responding to what you said - that there is nothing special about Bettencourt's playing. You were wrong then and you're wrong now. Sure, there are better out there. But not many. And again, I say this as someone that couldn't care less about Extreme.


Fair enough... I was mostly posting back at the dumbass who seemed to just do a Wiki search and then repeat some of the names to make the list longer anyway...
 
2013-01-27 02:34:08 PM
Here's ^ a sample of Nuno not doing anything "special".
 
2013-01-27 02:57:50 PM
No love for Mark Knopfler?

I love Mark Knopfler.

There.
 
2013-01-27 03:16:02 PM

Psycoholic_Slag: No love for Mark Knopfler?

I love Mark Knopfler.


Mark Knopfler has an extraordinary ability to make a Schecter Custom Stratocaster hoot and sing like angels on a Saturday night, exhausted from being good all week and needing a stiff drink.
 
2013-01-27 03:18:33 PM

Farkomatic: Here's ^ a sample of Nuno not doing anything "special".


I can't begin to tell you how many hours I spent learning to play the "Play With Me" guitar solo. And to see how effortlessly he plays it makes me realize that after 30 years of playing, I still suck.
 
2013-01-27 03:36:39 PM

Punk Floyd: I didn't know Cobain was in Van Halen! I thought he was just a one-hit-wonder.


he had his shot at fame
 
2013-01-27 03:53:25 PM

Farkomatic: Here's ^ a sample of Nuno not doing anything "special".


They also had Mangini. Pretty ridiculous list of talent, if you ask me.
 
2013-01-27 03:55:13 PM

Psycoholic_Slag: No love for Mark Knopfler?

I love Mark Knopfler.

There.


Me too.
 
2013-01-27 03:59:57 PM

jicon: I'll just leave this here. Blouses win.
Prince

If the term "Like a Boss" could be applied to a guitar solo, this one would be it.

Third_Uncle_Eno:
Proggy (but also tech plus feeling/heart, aka "the Two Three Steves"): Steve Hackett, Steve Hillage, Steve Howe
Yes man deserves a shout out here.

I don't care what anyone thinks of George Lynch, I flat out dig his playing, and his tone is unmistakable.

Also, because nobody mentioned these two guys, I'll post some Michael Angelo Batio and Rusty Cooley just for sheer shredding goodness.
Batio's picking technique is near flawless.
Link

Cooley shredding.
Link
Not much emotion, but, DAMN
 
2013-01-27 04:16:05 PM

beerrun: I don't care what anyone thinks of George Lynch, I flat out dig his playing, and his tone is unmistakable.


Lynch is/was a victim of the band he made his bones in. Another example is Reb Beach. Incredible guitarist, but he was in...gasp...Winger...so therefore he must suck.
 
2013-01-27 04:20:11 PM

mjbok: beerrun: I don't care what anyone thinks of George Lynch, I flat out dig his playing, and his tone is unmistakable.

Lynch is/was a victim of the band he made his bones in. Another example is Reb Beach. Incredible guitarist, but he was in...gasp...Winger...so therefore he must suck.


Didn't Reb replace Lynch in Dokken?

I actually liked Dokken back in the day. Don could actually sing, and Lynch was, well, Lynch.
 
2013-01-27 04:44:49 PM
The most impressive thing to me about Batio is that he's ambidextrous.

He can play either right or left handed, or both at the same time. It looks over the top, but it's still impressive.
 
2013-01-27 04:47:34 PM
Bears repeating:

imageshack.us

Through teenhood and then motherhood and putting up with Eddie for 20 years, through before and after Nutrisystem and today, I would hit it harder than the guitar strings of a Pete Towsend opening riff.
 
2013-01-27 04:55:49 PM

beerrun: Didn't Reb replace Lynch in Dokken?


After they went to CMC. Beach has been in Dokken and Whitesnake (along with Winger).
 
2013-01-27 04:57:40 PM

Mikey1969: Nuno Bettencourt? What did you do? Find your favorite bands and look up the guitarist? Sure, Extreme has some good songs, but there's nothing special about Bettencourt.

And yeah, A lot of people who know talent are pretty impressed with Prince, even if they don't like his music. They're still able to admit that the man has some serious talent.

And dude, George Lynch? Really? I like Dokken as much as the next guy who lived in the 80's, and Lynch isn't the second coming of Hendrix or anything. Hell. I went to see the guy play a show and hung out on his tour bus afterwards, and I still don't think he's godlike in any way. Once again, sure he's good, but in a list with the likes of Steve Vai and Joe Satriani? You MUST be trolling.


Dude. Nuno is a farking prodigy. His shiat was sick in 1985. He is the model after which rock and roll guitarists should be molded. If he had got involved with a better lead singer, and never went anywhere near "more than words" his career would have been a lot different.

As for George Lynch? You do know that before George Lynch, there were no frets for the flat 5th. He revolutionized the instrument.

And I know Prince is good, and have known it since the 80s, but, lately people like to point it out as if nobody else knows it, and as if that percieved obscurity somehow amplifies his prowess on the instrument. It doesn't. He is squarely in the middle to the back of the pack looking at that list. Mind you, I'm not even in the same dog park, but this isn't about me, so...
 
2013-01-27 05:45:04 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Bears repeating:

[imageshack.us image 233x400]

Through teenhood and then motherhood and putting up with Eddie for 20 years, through before and after Nutrisystem and today, I would hit it harder than the guitar strings of a Pete Towsend opening riff.


img2.timeinc.net
 
kab
2013-01-27 06:23:56 PM

Mikey1969: Nuno Bettencourt? What did you do? Find your favorite bands and look up the guitarist? Sure, Extreme has some good songs, but there's nothing special about Bettencourt.


I know others have jumped on you for this statement, I just wanted to reiterate how dumb it was.
 
kab
2013-01-27 06:26:16 PM

H31N0US: As for George Lynch? You do know that before George Lynch, there were no frets for the flat 5th. He revolutionized the instrument.


wtf am I reading.
 
2013-01-27 06:48:09 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Bears repeating:

[imageshack.us image 233x400]

Through teenhood and then motherhood and putting up with Eddie for 20 years, through before and after Nutrisystem and today, I would hit it harder than the guitar strings of a Pete Towsend opening riff.


Get in line.
 
2013-01-27 07:03:30 PM
Cobain died, so obviously he's Jesus.
 
2013-01-27 07:04:34 PM

kab: H31N0US: As for George Lynch? You do know that before George Lynch, there were no frets for the flat 5th. He revolutionized the instrument.

wtf am I reading.


I didn't get it either....
 
2013-01-27 07:37:22 PM

Mini Ditka: kab: H31N0US: As for George Lynch? You do know that before George Lynch, there were no frets for the flat 5th. He revolutionized the instrument.

wtf am I reading.

I didn't get it either....


George Lynch plays a lot of songs using the flat 5th. Mr Scary, It's not Love...It's a cool ominous sound. It's kind of like his defining sound, like Zakk's pinch harmonics. I was being Lebowski.
 
2013-01-27 08:48:08 PM

Eufah Kennidiets: The most impressive thing to me about Batio is that he's ambidextrous.

He can play either right or left handed, or both at the same time. It looks over the top, but it's still impressive.


Yes indeed!
double guitar shred

I've seen him live and it's really mind blowing when you see it in person.
Super nice guy, too.
 
2013-01-27 09:18:53 PM

H31N0US: Dude. Nuno is a farking prodigy. His shiat was sick in 1985. He is the model after which rock and roll guitarists should be molded. If he had got involved with a better lead singer, and never went anywhere near "more than words" his career would have been a lot different.


Yeah, I'm sure he woulda sold the shiat outta Ernie Ball guitar strings at his local Sam Ash.
 
2013-01-27 10:51:20 PM
beerrun
Third_Uncle_Eno:
Proggy (but also tech plus feeling/heart, aka "the Two Three Steves"): Steve Hackett, Steve Hillage, Steve Howe
Yes man deserves a shout out here.


oh crap! i KNEW I was forgetting someone ! thanks!
 
2013-01-27 10:54:11 PM

Farkomatic: Mikey1969:
Nuno Bettencourt? What did you do? Find your favorite bands and look up the guitarist? Sure, Extreme has some good songs, but there's nothing special about Bettencourt.

I'm not an Extreme fan, but Nuno can farking play. Do your homework before you make a comment like this, kthxbye.


He can play, but I gotta agree with the comment: "There's nothing special about him." There isn't. I couldn't pick him out of 100 other fast guitar players, and neither could you.

Not necessarily a knock, just a fact.
 
2013-01-27 10:56:41 PM

Farkomatic: Here's ^ a sample of Nuno not doing anything "special".


Superb playing, no doubt. But what makes it "special"?
 
2013-01-27 11:03:57 PM

karmachameleon: There isn't. I couldn't pick him out of 100 other fast guitar players, and neither could you.


Just like VH has that "brown" sound, there is a specific sound to much of Extreme's guitar work, so I would disagree with that statement.
 
2013-01-27 11:04:20 PM

karmachameleon: Farkomatic: Here's ^ a sample of Nuno not doing anything "special".

Superb playing, no doubt. But what makes it "special"?


So, superb playing isn't special? Should he do it from a wheelchair?

Jesus Christ....
 
kab
2013-01-27 11:31:52 PM

Mini Ditka: kab: H31N0US: As for George Lynch? You do know that before George Lynch, there were no frets for the flat 5th. He revolutionized the instrument.

wtf am I reading.

I didn't get it either....


Thanks for the sub, sir. I owe you a beer!
 
2013-01-28 01:25:10 AM

Mini Ditka: karmachameleon: Farkomatic: Here's ^ a sample of Nuno not doing anything "special".

Superb playing, no doubt. But what makes it "special"?

So, superb playing isn't special? Should he do it from a wheelchair?

Jesus Christ....


"Special" implies something unique and without peer, even inestimable. Bettencourt is an excellent guitar player, but that's not the same thing. It's not a knock; the majority of great musicians take what's been done before and refine it. But the special ones are the ones who changed the game altogether. I don't think it's a word that should be thrown around casually.
 
2013-01-28 05:08:25 AM
What? No love for Phil Keaggy??

Link
 
2013-01-28 07:19:24 AM
Isn't Cobain dead? If you're talking about the greatest dead guitar player, Ace Frehley is better than all of them combined.
 
2013-01-28 09:10:35 AM
Count me as one of those guys who can recognize Lynch's playing. Also I got a Dokken remaster album from my subcription service. It was nice hearng Pilson finally get the recognition he deserves, but Don? Ouch. I can't believe he let that shiat get released. He OBVIOUSLY can't sing anymore. it was horrible.
 
2013-01-28 01:06:05 PM
I don't play guitar, so I don't know if these guys are good or not...but i like 'em a lot:

Trey Anastasio
Buckethead
David Gimour
BB King
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Brian Brooks
Jon Spencer
John Frusciante
Santana
Jimi Hendrix
Bradley Nowell
Nick Schnebelen
Jay Yuenger
Jimmy Page
Tommy Iommi
 
2013-01-28 05:39:41 PM
Late to the party, but, yeah, there aren't too many people out there better than Nuno. Hugely underexposed/underrated.

I might have missed it but odd that there's no mention of Paul Gilbert anywhere. Easily top 5.
 
2013-01-29 11:52:11 AM
Van Halen was technically more proficient of a guitar player then Cobain....that hardly makes him better.

50 years from now, who will still be recognized? maybe neither of them.

Neither of these bands is gonna be like The Beatles...especially Van Halen because David Lee Roth couldn't freakin sing. How did such a good guitar player end up with such a bad singer?
 
2013-01-29 12:55:49 PM

tony41454: What? No love for Phil Keaggy??

Link


Definitely Keaggy should be on any list. Not into Christian music but he has some great instrumentals.
 
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