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(NYPost)   State of NY to legal firearms owners, "Register your weapons, it's the law." Legal firearms owners to the State of NY, "Guns? I don't own any guns, and you can't prove it so go fark yourselves"   (nypost.com) divider line 1301
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2013-01-26 05:20:13 PM

pedrop357: No, just hypocritical bullshiat for antigun types to jump all over the "we register cars" bit when they usually (always?) get twisted out of shape when people point how cars kill more than guns despite being regulated, licensed, etc.


And if cars are so much more dangerous, yet we register them, why is it so horrible that we register guns?

gja: That is not at ALL what I wrote.


Uh huh.
 
2013-01-26 05:20:15 PM

fredklein: Harry Knutz: Kraftwerk Orange: Harry Knutz: Dear Gun Tribe:

No one is coming to take your guns. Chill the fark out. All your "This is the first step toward confiscationmageddon!1!!11!" paranoia only makes the rest of us think we should be taking your guns.

Thanks!

What's your thoughts on Step 2 after gun owners register? What happens then?

Nothing happens then. If you're not doing anything illegal, not a good goddamn thing will happen.

If nothing is going to be done with the gun registration lists, then why bother having anyone register their guns? Why collect that data, just to do absolutely nothing with it?

And before you say 'we'll, we can use it to catch criminals', let me remind you that criminals don't obey the law, and will just use illegal, unregistered guns.


Because, freddyboy, if it became apparent you were, say, amassing an arsenal capable of shooting up a school, I'd think the rest of us would want to know that, hmmm? You know, as we're all part of a society, yes?
 
2013-01-26 05:20:20 PM

Gyrfalcon: Yet as soon as anyone asks them to demonstrate how responsible and law-abiding they actually are, they're all Nope, not me! I don't have to obey your laws! You're just doing it so you can take my gunz at some unspecified future date! Ha-ha! I'm onto you!


We already prove that every day, why do we have to prove it even more?
 
2013-01-26 05:20:42 PM
In most the rest of the world, having reasonable access to health care is considered a basic human right.

In the United States, owning a gun is considered a basic human right. (Based on a very.... unusual interpretation of what some dead guys said around 300 years ago).

In the United States, guns are religion. They provided freedom, liberty, and everything good. That all came from a gun, and nothing else. Like the sun God who gives you warmth. So is the philosophy of someone who was entitled in a very different world. Also religion.

This is why you can't debate it. Because it is viewed as a religious, AND a human right. How do you change that?
 
2013-01-26 05:20:43 PM

Flipper47465: kmmontandon [TotalFark]
2013-01-26 01:27:16 PM

Fark It:
Registration would have prevented school shootings? It seems to me that the only purpose of registration is confiscation,

Saying it doesn't make it true.

Except in England, Canada, Australia, ect...... Just saying....


Countries with socialized medicine and comparatively advanced mental health treatment? Hmm
 
2013-01-26 05:21:00 PM

xynix: The bolt-action 30-06 I have can take down a target a mile away in the right hands.. in average hands 1000-2000 feet.


It's kind of hard to paint the floors of an elementary school classroom with the brain matter of 27 students with a Remington 700, dude.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-01-26 05:21:07 PM

pion: So all it takes to get a hero tag on fark these days is be a small-dicked, paranoid, delusional sociopath? Good to know.


Perfect. You bring penile size into question. You seem to be preoccupied with that. Go see a psych.
 
2013-01-26 05:21:13 PM

pion: So all it takes to get a hero tag on fark these days is be a small-dicked, paranoid, delusional sociopath? Good to know.


DRINK!
/Seriously, you penis obsessed gun control people really need help.
 
2013-01-26 05:21:15 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Princess Ryans Knickers: Only criminals have something to hide.

Yea, law abiding citizens don't deserve privacy. What the hell is wrong with them?


You aren't law abiding if you are refusing to follow the law. You are a CRIMINAL. Therefore, according to the NRA and multiple Fark gun threads, you don't deserve to have a gun.
 
2013-01-26 05:21:35 PM

djh0101010: the ha ha guy: djh0101010: Do you know that the NRA has been pushing for instant background checks for decades?


That didn't stop them and their supporters from complaining about Obama's suggestion to do exactly that.

Obama is 20 years behind the NRA in this regard. Key is _INSTANT_ background checks. If my debit card can be checked for a balance in 5 seconds before I buy gas, then, hell yes, my ID can be checked in the same time to make sure I'm not a criminal. There is no technical difference in these two checks.


Your debit card connects directly to your bank account, it's pretty simple. Your criminal record however crosses numerous state and federal agencies. The last time I got an fbi background check it took almost 3 months. I would certainly be in favor of something instant but we shouldn't use that as an excuse to not have universal background checks.
 
2013-01-26 05:21:36 PM

Harry Knutz: xynix: Again.. people who know nothing about guns should not be involved in gun laws or even having the discussion around them. Respectfully said of course..

People who don't have vaginas should not be involved in abortion laws or even having the discussion around them. Oh wait.


People who haven't murdered someone should not be involved in murder laws or even having the discussion around them. Oh wait.
 
2013-01-26 05:21:36 PM

BronyMedic: xynix: Just keep this in mind.. Dipshiats that know nothing about guns who are participating in gun control and legislation conversations  Who have no idea that guns are already tracked and SNs are already tagged with your name and DL#. You may ban your so called "assault rifles" because you have no idea how guns work but this will always be legal and you won't have a problem with it because you don't even know what the fark it is.

[world.guns.ru image 575x309]

Actually, that weapon is NOT legal without a FFA Class III Tax Stamp, and each round of 40mm has to be registered as a Destructive Device with the ATF, and have an according 200 dollar tax stamp.

Grenade Launchers are SPECIFICALLY covered in the National Firearms Act as destructive devices.


So it's legal to own right? It's not banned. Am I correct in that statement? If so called "assault rifles" are banned then they will be the only weapon type banned. Because I can own a tank or even an F4 Phantom but I can't own a certain type of rifle. That's what makes gun owners frustrated is people trying to ban some kind of weapon because it was used in a crime while much more deadlier weapons are available for ownership. It's pure silliness. Knee jerk reactionary bullshiat by people who have no idea -at all- of what they're talking about. Not referring to you of course because you know the laws in reference to that particular gun.
 
2013-01-26 05:21:38 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: Anyone who wants to own a gun and is not a hunter or in law enforcement is mentally unstable, and therefore shouldn't be allowed to own guns.


...and that's why gun owners are so skeptical of gun control advocates and their motives, distilled into a single sentence
 
2013-01-26 05:21:40 PM

Flipper47465: kmmontandon [TotalFark]
2013-01-26 01:27:16 PM

Fark It:
Registration would have prevented school shootings? It seems to me that the only purpose of registration is confiscation,

Saying it doesn't make it true.

Except in England, Canada, Australia, ect...... Just saying....


Canadians own tons of guns. I'd still own mine but my wife (not the government) said they had to go. You can own just about any gun you'd like short of fully automatic or those teeny tiny pocket sized models. We also frown on concealed carry but that is as much cultural as anything. You want to hunt? No problem. You want to target shoot? No problem. Basically all you need to do is take a gun safety class and be a member of a shooting club if you want a handgun.
 
2013-01-26 05:21:58 PM
Why not just require people to register guns they plan to use in crimes?
 
2013-01-26 05:22:19 PM

GAT_00: And if cars are so much more dangerous, yet we register them, why is it so horrible that we register guns?


Because registration lists have been published in newspapers, used for confiscation, and proposed to be used for confiscation. Also, it's a protected right to own a gun.
 
2013-01-26 05:23:09 PM

the_foo: GAT_00: What legitimate reason is there to not register?

That's entirely the wrong question if we're still planning to be a free country. It's the same BS argument as "if you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to hide. So you won't mind the government illegally tapping your phone or searching your house"


GAT (like most of the anti-gun club here) has always been an ardent supporter of the patriot act and every thats come about because of it. So you're not going to get anywhere with that.
 
2013-01-26 05:23:11 PM

occamswrist: Harry Knutz: xynix: Again.. people who know nothing about guns should not be involved in gun laws or even having the discussion around them. Respectfully said of course..

People who don't have vaginas should not be involved in abortion laws or even having the discussion around them. Oh wait.

People who haven't murdered someone should not be involved in murder laws or even having the discussion around them. Oh wait.


Um, you're retarded.
 
2013-01-26 05:23:40 PM

occamswrist: Harry Knutz: xynix: Again.. people who know nothing about guns should not be involved in gun laws or even having the discussion around them. Respectfully said of course..

People who don't have vaginas should not be involved in abortion laws or even having the discussion around them. Oh wait.

People who haven't murdered someone should not be involved in murder laws or even having the discussion around them. Oh wait.


No, dip shiat. You're confusing an action with an item.

People who don't know what murder IS, should not be allowed to be involved in murder laws. People who don't understand the topic at hand should not be allowed to legislate on it.
 
2013-01-26 05:23:48 PM

Harry Knutz: fredklein: Harry Knutz: Kraftwerk Orange: Harry Knutz: Dear Gun Tribe:

No one is coming to take your guns. Chill the fark out. All your "This is the first step toward confiscationmageddon!1!!11!" paranoia only makes the rest of us think we should be taking your guns.

Thanks!

What's your thoughts on Step 2 after gun owners register? What happens then?

Nothing happens then. If you're not doing anything illegal, not a good goddamn thing will happen.

If nothing is going to be done with the gun registration lists, then why bother having anyone register their guns? Why collect that data, just to do absolutely nothing with it?

And before you say 'we'll, we can use it to catch criminals', let me remind you that criminals don't obey the law, and will just use illegal, unregistered guns.

Because, freddyboy, if it became apparent you were, say, amassing an arsenal capable of shooting up a school, I'd think the rest of us would want to know that, hmmm? You know, as we're all part of a society, yes?


Dont need an aresenal. One, maybe two guns. Its the amount of bullets that matters.
 
2013-01-26 05:24:11 PM

xynix: vpb: Amos Quito: There. See how silly you look?

No.  Do I look as silly as someone who thinks playing with their toys and not having to register them like a car or a motorcycle is more important than preventing mass shootings?

Yeah making legal owners register their guns will really prevent mass shootings. Because everyone who has done a mass shooting or blown up a building registers their ordinance. They're the most lawful people out there don't you know? Not a single person has stolen a gun used in a mass shooting .. especially not that guy that killed 24 people in CT who absolutely did not steal his guns from a legal owner.

You don't look silly at all you just look like a moron. Cars and motorcycles are not in the constitution FYI.


I've seen enough of the VPB crap for a lifetime. I rarely add people to the ignore list, but he's about to disappear.
 
2013-01-26 05:25:03 PM

BronyMedic: xynix: The bolt-action 30-06 I have can take down a target a mile away in the right hands.. in average hands 1000-2000 feet.

It's kind of hard to paint the floors of an elementary school classroom with the brain matter of 27 students with a Remington 700, dude.


It's interesting that you're obsessed with thinking that the 99.999% of law abiding gun owners, would want to do that sort of thing. Project much,
BronyMedic?

/apparently, I'm not allowed to attack you in suitably strong linguistic terms. Hopefully the modiots will let this go through.

//seriously, Brony, do you actually understand how much you come across as being a pompous, judgmental ass?
 
2013-01-26 05:25:26 PM
Only reason Newtown resonates is WHITE children were killed. YOU RACIST farkS.
 
2013-01-26 05:25:34 PM

xynix: Again.. people who know nothing about guns should not be involved in gun laws or even having the discussion around them. Respectfully said of course..


Pedestrians have an interest in traffic laws.
 
2013-01-26 05:25:41 PM

BronyMedic: It's kind of hard to paint the floors of an elementary school classroom with the brain matter of 27 students with a Remington 700, dude.


You're a piece of shiat.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-01-26 05:25:49 PM

Cheviot: gja:

Stop that. Those who are opposed to the gun controls, and have used the "car vs gun" analogy, drew fire from those of you who desire the gun controls legislation.
If the pro-gunners can't use the car/gun analogy then neither can the anti-gun folks.

Fair is fair. Nobody gets to use it. Now come up with a coherent and rational retort, or admit you haven't one.

Dog license. Pitt bull owners register their dogs. Exotic fish licences. Same thing. No one is running around taking either. And guess what, there are no vast armies of dog nuts and fish nuts refusing to get their yearly licenses.

But in the end what this comes down to is that there's a law requiring certain types of guns to be registered in NY. Registering the weapon in no way stops the owner from keeping or bearing the weapon, so the constitutional argument is out.

I have no problem with law abiding, mentally stable individuals without violent criminal records, owning guns. But lookie here. This thread is full of those supposedly law abiding gun owners who state they will break weapons laws. If all it takes is telling gun owners to follow this law you don't agree with that in no way harms you, to get these gun owners to break the law, then they aren't very law abiding.

Now, under this law, as soon as they use one of their unregistered weapons for self defense they'll be found out. Out hunting? Take a gun to a gunsmith? Caught. Disgruntled gun club employees will report members for owning unregistered guns. Disgruntled gun and ammo selling store employees will report customers who buy accessories for weapons that should be registered.

So, unregistered gun owners, when the police come knocking at your door in these circumstances with their search warrant, what exactly is it, besides surrendering and turning over the unregistered weapons, are you planning on doing? Breaking even more laws?


Wow. You don't belong here. I wasn't expecting an answer with real thought behind it.

To be truthful, I have no problem with the registration. In reality I have no guns they want registered.

I think the law has merit, but needs further definition and an avenue of oversight, which I believe is sorely lacking.

Other than that, hell yes, register ALL guns at some point. Besides, they did a NICS check every time I bought one, so there is a paper trail anyway.

To think that hasn't been preserved somewhere is naive.
 
2013-01-26 05:25:58 PM

Harry Knutz: fredklein: kxs401: fredklein: kxs401: Seriously, the paranoid braying about the government coming to take your guns only makes it obvious that you're so goddamn unstable that you should never be permitted to even hold a loaded gun.

I love the logic.

"We're not gonna take your guns. The fact you think we are makes you crazy... So we're gonna take your guns!"

I'm not sure you understand how logic works, actually. Anyway, wanting to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people is not the same as a total gun ban. I understand that it would be the same thing to you -- because you're a paranoid nutbar -- but it's not actually the same thing.

Defining 'crazy people' as 'anyone who owns guns' IS the same as a gun ban.

I think the only person here who's making that connection is you, fredward.


Um, did you even read the post I originally replied to? Particularly the part where gun owners were "paranoid" and "so goddamn unstable" that they "should never be permitted to even hold a loaded gun"?
 
2013-01-26 05:26:06 PM

truthseeker2083: So how many people believed that when the DHS was created it wouldn't interfere with law abiding citizen's lives? How many people have flown on a plane lately without having to step in a machine that shows you naked, streams radiation through you, or been felt up by an overzealous TSA screener, etc.? When you give the government a power, they will use every last drop.


I find it amusing how many of the people who are pro gun control seem to hate the PATRIOT Act in other threads. Emotional knee jerk reactions that do nothing are okay as long as it's a right they don't like, or something...
 
2013-01-26 05:26:49 PM

robrr2003: the_foo: GAT_00: What legitimate reason is there to not register?

That's entirely the wrong question if we're still planning to be a free country. It's the same BS argument as "if you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to hide. So you won't mind the government illegally tapping your phone or searching your house"

GAT (like most of the anti-gun club here) has always been an ardent supporter of the patriot act and every thats come about because of it. So you're not going to get anywhere with that.


I just don't know where all these authoritarians came from, it scares the hell out of me. Fark wasn't always like that.
 
2013-01-26 05:26:55 PM

pedrop357: People who don't understand the topic at hand should not be allowed to legislate on it.


Precisely! We're talking about Republicans, right?
 
2013-01-26 05:27:05 PM

pedrop357: occamswrist: Harry Knutz: xynix: Again.. people who know nothing about guns should not be involved in gun laws or even having the discussion around them. Respectfully said of course..

People who don't have vaginas should not be involved in abortion laws or even having the discussion around them. Oh wait.

People who haven't murdered someone should not be involved in murder laws or even having the discussion around them. Oh wait.

No, dip shiat. You're confusing an action with an item.

People who don't know what murder IS, should not be allowed to be involved in murder laws. People who don't understand the topic at hand should not be allowed to legislate on it.


Finding a distinction between the post I was quoting and my post doesn't mean I don't know the difference, dip shiat.

People who don't know the difference between a post and a corollary to a post should not be allowed to post or even have a discussion around them. oh wait.
 
2013-01-26 05:27:29 PM
You know that if you, say, have a restraining order out against you, you have to give up your guns. Same if you're convicted of a violent felony. Requiring registration for guns facilitates getting guns from those who can't legally own them. "Law-abiding" is a moment-in-time thing. Someone may be perfectly law-abiding when they purchase a gun, then not so much so later.

Are all you paranoid sociopaths genuinely too dumb to see the legitimate uses of registration, or are you being disingenuous?
 
2013-01-26 05:27:40 PM

Harry Knutz: pedrop357: People who don't understand the topic at hand should not be allowed to legislate on it.

Precisely! We're talking about Republicans, right?


If they don't/can't understand the topic, I don't care what party they're a member of.
 
2013-01-26 05:27:58 PM
I'd guess you could NOT register your guns, and the government wouldn't know about them, but if they find out you had unregistered guns, they could then take them, as you had them without registering them.

/Like the crocodile in my basement.
 
2013-01-26 05:28:09 PM

robrr2003: the_foo: GAT_00: What legitimate reason is there to not register?

That's entirely the wrong question if we're still planning to be a free country. It's the same BS argument as "if you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to hide. So you won't mind the government illegally tapping your phone or searching your house"

GAT (like most of the anti-gun club here) has always been an ardent supporter of the patriot act and every thats come about because of it. So you're not going to get anywhere with that.


Is it just blatantly make shiat up day?
 
2013-01-26 05:28:11 PM
Tired of listening to all the mouth-breathers who like to imagine that the rest of the world is some kind of magical utopia because of gun control laws.

There's a great page on Wikipedia listing gun massacres. Most of them are...... not in the United States. And the worst ones are in China where pretty much even thinking about owning a gun will get you jail time.

And for all the Eurotrash who think gun control works so well, tell that to the 69 people gunned down in Norway in a massacre in 2011. How quickly we forget when it's politically convenient.
I don't own a gun. I probably never will. But there's a reason Americans founded a new country -- because we didn't want to be like the old ones.
 
2013-01-26 05:28:54 PM

xynix: Just keep this in mind.. Dipshiats that know nothing about guns who are participating in gun control and legislation conversations  Who have no idea that guns are already tracked and SNs are already tagged with your name and DL#. You may ban your so called "assault rifles" because you have no idea how guns work but this will always be legal and you won't have a problem with it because you don't even know what the fark it is.


What the hell is that thing?
 
2013-01-26 05:29:14 PM

occamswrist: Finding a distinction between the post I was quoting and my post doesn't mean I don't know the difference, dip shiat.

People who don't know the difference between a post and a corollary to a post should not be allowed to post or even have a discussion around them. oh wait.


sorry. I thought you were confirming the post, not mocking it.
 
2013-01-26 05:29:42 PM

fredklein: gun owners were "paranoid"


You have reading comprehension issues. Come take one of my SAT, GRE, or LSAT prep classes and I'll help you out with that.
 
2013-01-26 05:29:46 PM

pedrop357: GAT_00: And if cars are so much more dangerous, yet we register them, why is it so horrible that we register guns?

Because registration lists have been published in newspapers, used for confiscation, and proposed to be used for confiscation. Also, it's a protected right to own a gun.


Freedom of information act does not apply to the BATF who currently has a record of every legal gun owner. A gun registry may be accessible under the FoIA and yes that puts the fear of God into me. The government already knows what guns I own. I don't need some crack head also knowing it and I certainly don't want it accessible via a website like it already is in some cases in certain states. I will not allow the government to put me in a compromising situation because a bunch of people who've never even shot a gun think they know what's right and what will prevent gun related crimes. I will not register my gun and I will immediately tell the police that I have an unregistered gun if such a law were to pass. I would then spend a lot of money fighting the law until it reached the SCOTUS and a lot of people would back me or me back them in the process. Luckily I live in Georgia where people are smart when it comes to guns..
 
2013-01-26 05:30:07 PM

xynix: Purchased a Glock this summer and got it instantly. The M&P assault rifle I purchased took 2 weeks to get as they did a federal background check on me. The cost of such a thing is built into the price of the gun I purchased. I'm not in favor of moving semi-autos into that category as it's a knee-jerk reaction and redundant to a program that is already in place to ensure people who are purchasing them are allowed to purchase them. The bolt-action 30-06 I have can take down a target a mile away in the right hands.. in average hands 1000-2000 feet.

Again.. people who know nothing about guns should not be involved in gun laws or even having the discussion around them. Respectfully said of course..


It's not just about making sure you're allowed to have them. Requiring expensive registrations for semi-autos would make them more of a hassle to acquire which means less people would buy them.

Your bolt action rifle is certainly powerful but it would not be so great for storming an elementary school and blasting 20 kids.

I myself am a gun owner, that said it doesn't matter if you know about guns or not, gun crime affects us all. Should we allow only drug users to make drug laws?
 
2013-01-26 05:30:29 PM

fredklein: Harry Knutz: fredklein: kxs401: fredklein: kxs401: Seriously, the paranoid braying about the government coming to take your guns only makes it obvious that you're so goddamn unstable that you should never be permitted to even hold a loaded gun.

I love the logic.

"We're not gonna take your guns. The fact you think we are makes you crazy... So we're gonna take your guns!"

I'm not sure you understand how logic works, actually. Anyway, wanting to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people is not the same as a total gun ban. I understand that it would be the same thing to you -- because you're a paranoid nutbar -- but it's not actually the same thing.

Defining 'crazy people' as 'anyone who owns guns' IS the same as a gun ban.

I think the only person here who's making that connection is you, fredward.

Um, did you even read the post I originally replied to? Particularly the part where gun owners were "paranoid" and "so goddamn unstable" that they "should never be permitted to even hold a loaded gun"?


I believe the identifier in question was paranoid braying. There are many gun owners here and elsewhere who are not doing any kind of paranoid braying. If a gun owner is doing paranoid braying, chances are that gun owner is "so goddamn unstable" that he/she might not be fit to own a gun. QED.
 
2013-01-26 05:30:57 PM

Haliburton Cummings: tighten yer tinfoil Larry...


it's not like registration followed by confiscation was used in NYC in the 70's or anything like that...... oh wait it was.
 
2013-01-26 05:30:58 PM

ElBarto79: Obama is 20 years behind the NRA in this regard. Key is _INSTANT_ background checks. If my debit card can be checked for a balance in 5 seconds before I buy gas, then, hell yes, my ID can be checked in the same time to make sure I'm not a criminal. There is no technical difference in these two checks.

Your debit card connects directly to your bank account, it's pretty simple. Your criminal record however crosses numerous state and federal agencies. The last time I got an fbi background check it took almost 3 months. I would certainly be in favor of something instant but we shouldn't use that as an excuse to not have universal background checks.



Wow, the leap of logic it takes to get from what I posted, to what you posted, makes my head spin.

There is no legitimate reason, technical or otherwise, why an instant background check can't work. The NRA was pushing for this, 20 years ago. The leftists have dragged their feet on this for decades, while blaming the NRA for it not being possible. I am offended that the leftists blame us for the failure that they are continuing to cause.

How about we do this: Instant background checks for legal gun purchases. Of course, the criminals don't buy their guns legally, but, it will give me happiness next time I sell a gun to a coworker. I'm sure the whole privacy thing about being able to do a background check on anyone at all isn't a problem.

So how about we do that, and then, do a Project Exile type thing, where criminals who use guns have mandatory prison time added to whatever other penalty they deserve? Google Project Exile, double-percent drops in violent crime per year. What a concept. Put the bad guys in jail.

Stop blaming the 99.9999% of law abiding gun owners, and put the bad guys in jail. What a concept.
 
2013-01-26 05:31:07 PM

ElBarto79: It's not just about making sure you're allowed to have them. Requiring expensive registrations for semi-autos would make them more of a hassle to acquire which means less people would buy them.


How is that not a violation of rights?
 
2013-01-26 05:31:38 PM

kxs401: fredklein: kxs401: fredklein: kxs401: Seriously, the paranoid braying about the government coming to take your guns only makes it obvious that you're so goddamn unstable that you should never be permitted to even hold a loaded gun.

I love the logic.

"We're not gonna take your guns. The fact you think we are makes you crazy... So we're gonna take your guns!"

I'm not sure you understand how logic works, actually. Anyway, wanting to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people is not the same as a total gun ban. I understand that it would be the same thing to you -- because you're a paranoid nutbar -- but it's not actually the same thing.

Defining 'crazy people' as 'anyone who owns guns' IS the same as a gun ban.

No, I'm defining "crazy people" in this context as people like you, foaming at the mouth and ranting about something that's never going to happen. You're as nutty as the people stocking up food for the inevitable and imminent collapse of the world economy.

Keep shining, you crazy diamonds. The more people see you refusing to comply with reasonable legal requirements, the less resistance there will be among the general public to more reasonable legal requirements. Thank you for your assistance.


"Foaming at the mouth"? "Ranting"?? Neither describes me. However, the fact you said those those things says a lot about you.

As for "Never going to happen"? - Yeah, because of people who stand up for their Rights and don't let it happen. If everyone was like you, it Would happen.
 
2013-01-26 05:32:09 PM
Registering your gun doesn't mean we're taking them away.


History has proven that statement to be a lie.
 
2013-01-26 05:33:50 PM

davidphogan: truthseeker2083: So how many people believed that when the DHS was created it wouldn't interfere with law abiding citizen's lives? How many people have flown on a plane lately without having to step in a machine that shows you naked, streams radiation through you, or been felt up by an overzealous TSA screener, etc.? When you give the government a power, they will use every last drop.

I find it amusing how many of the people who are pro gun control seem to hate the PATRIOT Act in other threads. Emotional knee jerk reactions that do nothing are okay as long as it's a right they don't like, or something...


But see, the knee-jerk reactions don't do 'nothing'. That's the problem, as they allow too much. If you give a mouse a cookie....
 
2013-01-26 05:33:55 PM
And not one mention of the killers having mental illness and on drugs. That's right, it's the guns fault.
 
2013-01-26 05:34:56 PM

Fark It: If there's one constant in the gun control debate it's that the people who support bans and confiscation will always, without fail, overreach.


Um, I think you're overreacting somewhat? Gun registry != confiscation.

I mean, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here; am I missing something?
 
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