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(Washington Post)   The GOP isn't dead, it's just pining for Ronald Reagan   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 134
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2013-01-26 11:22:09 AM  
Then you get a shovel and you get a voodoo priestess and you f*cking well dig up your dime store, failed B actor Jesus and you spend the rest of your born days playing backstab turf wars with the country you claim to love as the football. You do that until your straw bosses have scraped the last nickel out of the register and moved shop but they are NOT going to save you a place in the getaway car, and God help you when people finally decide to dismantle what's left of your little fourth reich greed orgy when there's nothing left to steal. God speed, you covetous, obstructionist "do what we want or we'll burn it all down", false patriot jagoffs. You do that.
 
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2013-01-26 11:50:40 AM  
"The GOP isn't dead, it's just pining for Ronald Reagan a leader "
 
2013-01-26 11:53:29 AM  
One of them, Louisiana's Bobby Jindal, gave a keynote address here where he warned: "We must stop being the stupid party. It's time for a new Republican Party that talks like adults."

So I see there was an open bar at the event.
 
2013-01-26 12:50:54 PM  
They're not pining, they're passed on.    The GOP is no more!  It has ceased to be.  It has expired and got to it's maker.   This is a late political party.    it's a stiff.   Bereft of life.   It rests in piece.   If it hadn't been for  corporate donations it would be pushing up the daisies.   It's political processes are of interest only to historians.   It has hopped the twig.   It has shuffled off this mortal coil.   It's run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible.   This is an ex-Grand old party!
 
2013-01-26 03:38:12 PM  
The real Reagan that would get primaried in a run for the House, or the mythical Reagan that was hard-line on immigration, never raised taxes, didn't cut and run after a terrorist attack and only sold weapons to our close allies in transparent, legal transactions?
 
2013-01-26 03:40:15 PM  
Remember, the problem isn't the Republican message which the people largely hate, it's how the Republican Party is getting that message out that matters.
 
2013-01-26 03:42:03 PM  
Black Reagan isn't good enough?
 
2013-01-26 03:44:35 PM  
They want an imaginary Reagan that never existed, along with an imaginary 1950s America that never existed.
 
2013-01-26 03:47:56 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: The real Reagan that would get primaried in a run for the House, or the mythical Reagan that was hard-line on immigration, never raised taxes, didn't cut and run after a terrorist attack and only sold weapons to our close allies in transparent, legal transactions?


This. I voted for Reagan and I was considered a conservative then. My views are unchanged and, I suspect, so are Reagan's. But I can't bring myself to vote for the clowns they keep nominating.

My conservative friends all assure me I am now a liberal and lack conservative credentials, whatever the fark that means.

Meanwhile, the democrats welcome damn near everybody into their tent and try to represent them all. The OP will welcome you too, as long as you fully convert to their way of thinking. It's like a cult now.
 
2013-01-26 04:11:16 PM  

edmo: My views are unchanged and, I suspect, so are Reagan's.


I'd venture to say Reagan's views have been unchanged since at least 2004.
 
2013-01-26 04:18:52 PM  
Something something... that chicken....
 
2013-01-26 04:21:08 PM  
What about fjords?
 
2013-01-26 04:24:35 PM  
It's not pining, it's passed on.

Plus:

impaler: They want an imaginary Reagan that never existed, along with an imaginary 1950s America that never existed.

 
2013-01-26 04:24:49 PM  

impaler: ...along with an imaginary 1950s America that never existed.


I never did understand whey they called it "black and white" television.
 
2013-01-26 04:25:26 PM  
If Reagan were alive today he would be screaming and desperately trying to get out.
 
2013-01-26 04:26:17 PM  
Come on and lets just get the Feds arresting these Republican Traitors to the United States. The evidence is overwhelming on the Republicans domestic terrorism.

/Invite Jan Brewer down to tour Gitmo. And either her plane crashes(mechanical issues and the derp storm that follows it) or she becomes a voluntary inmate by her own admission after two days of reprogramming as the CIA calls it.
 
2013-01-26 04:27:49 PM  
How could they be pinning for Reagan when Reagan would be considered a long-haired libby commie socialist by today's Republican?
 
2013-01-26 04:28:11 PM  
The GOP is not dead. It's just pining for Ronald Reagan the Fords.

You over thought it, Subby. You over thought it.
 
2013-01-26 04:29:54 PM  

Mentat: Remember, the problem isn't the Republican message which the people largely hate, it's how the Republican Party is getting that message out that matters.


You mean rape isn't a good message?
 
2013-01-26 04:31:05 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Mentat: Remember, the problem isn't the Republican message which the people largely hate, it's how the Republican Party is getting that message out that matters.

You mean rape isn't a good message?


Rape is a perfectly cromulent message.
 
2013-01-26 04:32:46 PM  

Pincy: How could they be pinning for Reagan...

 
2013-01-26 04:34:13 PM  
Imaginary Reagan, you mean?

Actual Reagan was a RINO. (Reagan in name only)
 
2013-01-26 04:35:00 PM  
lh5.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-01-26 04:35:09 PM  
The Dems didn't come back to life until after they moved on from JFK.

Would a 35 or 40 y.o. have any first hand memories of Reagan's presidency?
 
2013-01-26 04:35:51 PM  

Bslim: If Reagan were alive today he would be screaming and desperately trying to get out.


www.robertsinclair.net
 
2013-01-26 04:36:48 PM  
www.jewishworldreview.com
 
2013-01-26 04:37:55 PM  
What are they talking about? He got re-elected in 2008 after getting a deep tan.
 
2013-01-26 04:39:58 PM  
www.legitgov.org
 
2013-01-26 04:40:51 PM  
If the Reagan of then ran today he'd be considered a RINO, perhaps even a liberal. He'd never get the nomination. He'd be ridiculed by republicans.
 
2013-01-26 04:41:31 PM  
The only reason that the GOP is still standing is because it had been nailed there.
 
2013-01-26 04:42:29 PM  
Signed gun control into law and raised taxes eleven times.
I never liked him but he's a damn sight better than what they have now.
 
2013-01-26 04:43:42 PM  

bunner: Then you get a shovel and you get a voodoo priestess and you f*cking well dig up your dime store, failed B actor Jesus and you spend the rest of your born days playing backstab turf wars with the country you claim to love as the football. You do that until your straw bosses have scraped the last nickel out of the register and moved shop but they are NOT going to save you a place in the getaway car, and God help you when people finally decide to dismantle what's left of your little fourth reich greed orgy when there's nothing left to steal. God speed, you covetous, obstructionist "do what we want or we'll burn it all down", false patriot jagoffs. You do that.


Ah yes, it's THOSE posts that are the reason I have you farkied as "+1 subscirbe"

Sometimes we all need a bit of righteous ranting.

Muta: Would a 35 or 40 y.o. have any first hand memories of Reagan's presidency?


I'm 33 and I do - not really specific politics, but I remember the guy, and I remember the adults around me having the general sense that he was gaga and sitting on the button that ends the world. So no, I don't want Reagan back either.
 
2013-01-26 04:46:42 PM  

jaytkay: [lh5.googleusercontent.com image 500x684]


This. So much this. A thousand times this.

Ronald Reagan was an awful president. He advanced awful policies and did an awful amount of damage to the USA, and a thousand times more to Central America and Africa. I don't care if he seemed nice- he wasn't. He doesn't deserve to be idolized. He deserves to be demonized.
 
2013-01-26 04:47:53 PM  
The GOP can't idolize W, he is a pariah and H.W. Bush raised taxes (can't have that). Nixon administration didn't go well and Eisenhower spoke against the military industrial complex. After Eisehhower, you have to go back to the guys who caused the Depression. Reagan is really all the GOPs got.

If all you've got to live for is what you left behind,
Get yourself a powder charge and seal that silver mine.
 
2013-01-26 04:50:25 PM  
The Reagan I remembered actually sat down with Tip O'Neill and hammered out a tax policy compromise in 1986 or so. I don't think he'd pass muster in this latter-day Republican Party.
 
2013-01-26 04:50:38 PM  

Muta: The GOP can't idolize W, he is a pariah and H.W. Bush raised taxes (can't have that). Nixon administration didn't go well and Eisenhower spoke against the military industrial complex. After Eisehhower, you have to go back to the guys who caused the Depression. Reagan is really all the GOPs got.

If all you've got to live for is what you left behind,
Get yourself a powder charge and seal that silver mine.


Yep. Ike spoke against the military industrial complex in his farewell address. Except that he's the one that created it.
 
2013-01-26 04:53:38 PM  

Tax Boy: [www.legitgov.org image 485x237]


save the bullshiat for the right-wing, they like to use lies as their argument.
 
2013-01-26 04:56:18 PM  
That sort of ideological shift is something that few Republicans are willing to advocate at this point. They still insist that the problem is not what they believe, but how they express it.

Well, there's your problem. Bigotry expressed differently is still bigotry.
 
2013-01-26 04:57:21 PM  

doyner: edmo: My views are unchanged and, I suspect, so are Reagan's.

I'd venture to say Reagan's views have been unchanged since at least 2004.



i159.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-26 05:04:37 PM  
"from this diverse group, Republicans say, could emerge a Moses-like figure - maybe several of them - to lead the party out of its wilderness"

Didn't Moses lead his people into the wilderness and die there? Methinks they want a new metaphor. Unless their "Moses" is leading them out of Egypt and Egypt is America. Then, please proceed, GOP.
 
2013-01-26 05:04:42 PM  
Another item to add to the pile. People who were actually *listening* to what the (former) Soviets had to say after the dissolution of the USSR remember this little gem:

Despite the claims by the revisionist GOP that Ronald Reagan single-handedly won the Cold War, the Soviets themselves said that having Reagan as President *prolonged* the Cold War. They were so genuinely afraid that that senile old lunatic would launch a first strike that they kept their system patched together with duct tape and baling wire until Reagan was safely on the way out. Only then could they breathe a sigh of relief, relax, and let it fall apart.
 
2013-01-26 05:04:50 PM  
http://i331.photobucket.com

An oldie but a goodie.
 
2013-01-26 05:06:19 PM  

Tor_Eckman: http://[i331.photobucket.com image 450x587]

An oldie but a goodie.


Thank you!  I made an admittedly half-assed effort to track that down the other day and failed.
 
2013-01-26 05:07:09 PM  
www.earthenspirituality.com
The first election I was eligible to vote in was the 1984 election. I voted for Reagan. How things got so crazy......I have no idea.
 
2013-01-26 05:07:13 PM  
Reagan, the divorced union president who ducked military service to make movies with a monkey in Hollyweird before becoming governor of the most liberal state in human history?

Good luck in the Fox News debate, Ronnie!
 
2013-01-26 05:08:26 PM  
They got him. His name is President Barack Obama. Dolts.
 
2013-01-26 05:10:26 PM  
I call BS. Reagan would be run out of the party as a RINO.
 
2013-01-26 05:12:05 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Reagan, the divorced union president who ducked military service to make movies with a monkey in Hollyweird before becoming governor of the most liberal state in human history?

Good luck in the Fox News debate, Ronnie!


I don't think CA is the most liberal of states, maybe then, but not now.
 
2013-01-26 05:12:36 PM  

jcb274: "from this diverse group, Republicans say, could emerge a Moses-like figure - maybe several of them - to lead the party out of its wilderness"

Didn't Moses lead his people into the wilderness and die there? Methinks they want a new metaphor. Unless their "Moses" is leading them out of Egypt and Egypt is America. Then, please proceed, GOP.


Oops. I should have read the thread to see that this was a bash Reagan thread, not a respond to the article thread.
 
2013-01-26 05:12:57 PM  

IBelieveYouHaveMyStapler: The only reason that the GOP is still standing is because it had been nailed there.


PERFECT!
 
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