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(KnoxNews)   Tennessee Senator would like for at least one person in welfare queen family to work for their income   (knoxnews.com) divider line 186
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2013-01-26 09:06:48 AM  
At this point I'm convinced Stacy Campfield is just trolling.
 
2013-01-26 09:34:08 AM  
Did you read the article subby, or just see the headline and whip out your dog-whistle?

If you want to be taken seriously, subby, then try arguing against this guy's ideas instead of setting up straw men.
 
2013-01-26 09:53:44 AM  
Absolutely! Let's make sure 6 year olds (25% of whom are living below the poverty line and over 1,000,000 of whom are homeless) be responsible for the only source of cash income for struggling families. Because that $185 a month per child is really a massive form of milking the system.
 
2013-01-26 09:54:20 AM  
*are responsible
 
2013-01-26 10:57:36 AM  

ginandbacon: Absolutely! Let's make sure 6 year olds (25% of whom are living below the poverty line and over 1,000,000 of whom are homeless) be responsible for the only source of cash income for struggling families. Because that $185 a month per child is really a massive form of milking the system.


Campfield is somewhat of a running joke here...this is certainly not the first time he's introduced some off-the-wall bill that has no chance of passing. (A few years ago he proposed for aborted fetuses to be issued death certificates.) I think it's partly to pander to his base and partly to get attention. And it's incredibly effective on both fronts.
 
2013-01-26 11:17:23 AM  

Lucky LaRue: then try arguing against this guy's ideas instead of setting up straw men.


He's saying that if a kid is stupid, his family should starve. Yeah, not much need to argue against that.
 
2013-01-26 12:20:33 PM  

Lucky LaRue: Did you read the article subby, or just see the headline and whip out your dog-whistle?

If you want to be taken seriously, subby, then try arguing against this guy's ideas instead of setting up straw men.


It's Stacy Campfield.  Nobody should take him seriously, or do anything except mock him.
 
2013-01-26 12:28:59 PM  
Stacey is a girl's name.
 
2013-01-26 12:30:03 PM  
Step 1) Cut public funding of school lunches to poor children

Step 2) Tie welfare benefits to children's academic performance

Step 3) Profit Tax cuts for billionaires!
 
2013-01-26 12:30:05 PM  
Yes, this will end well.
 
2013-01-26 12:30:15 PM  
The strongest predictor of poor educational outcomes is child poverty. The obvious solution: make children even poorer!
 
2013-01-26 12:31:47 PM  
Campfield is a f*cking idiot. He's just jockeying for votes because his run is over very soon.
 
2013-01-26 12:32:47 PM  

kwame: Campfield is a f*cking idiot. He's just jockeying for votes because his run is over very soon.


ThisThisThis
 
2013-01-26 12:34:09 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: Stacey is a girl's name.


He almost looks like he dresses up at home in that picture. Photoshop anyone?
 
2013-01-26 12:35:05 PM  
As a resident of Tennessee I would just like to say fark Stacy Campfield. He's a racist ignorant twat. He tried to join the black caucus in the state senate and then threw a biatch fit when they said no cause he's not black. He also said that AIDS came from people farking monkeys. Like I said, racist ignorant twat. The rich evangelical jackholes of Farragut deserve this twat cause they're all twats too.

/so glad I moved out of Knoxville.

Used to mow lawns in Farragut. fark that shiathole, fark Turkey Creek, fark West Knoxville fark Stacy Campfield, fark former mayor Bill Haslam, fark all those holier than thou rich unemployed trophy wives with "I love Jesus" stickers all over their bumpers that clog the interstates with their monster Mercedes and Land Rover urban assault vehicles, and fark the rest of those motherfarkers who ruin Knoxville for the normal people. /end CSB rant

/// And fark Beardon too while I'm at it.
 
2013-01-26 12:39:10 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Sock Ruh Tease: Stacey is a girl's name.

He almost looks like he dresses up at home in that picture. Photoshop anyone?


He's also a man of advanced age and a 'confirmed bachelor' who has a disproportionately high level of homophobia. I'll just let you draw your own conclusions there.

And Doktor_Zhivago...I think I love you. As a resident of Knoxville, I want to print that post and leave it as flyers all over the cars at West Town Mall.
 
2013-01-26 12:39:23 PM  
"If the family doesn't care if the child goes to school or does well in school, the odds of that child getting out of poverty are pretty low," the senator said.

That's certainly true.

"The maximum benefit for a mother with two children is $185 a month," O'Neal said in an interview. "That's already low. If you take 60-plus dollars away, you're just further limiting people who already have extremely few resources... It's just piling on."

That's not the solution.
 
2013-01-26 12:41:33 PM  

kwame: Campfield is a f*cking idiot. He's just jockeying for votes because his run is over very soon.


Uh, he won by 8,000 votes in a race that only had 40,000 votes cast in 2010.  I severely doubt that he'll lose in 2014.
 
2013-01-26 12:42:47 PM  
seems like most of you don't like Stacy and think his ideas stink. that they are opposed by Linda O'Neal, executive director of the Tennessee Commission on Children and Youth regardless of their merits makes me think this is a right/left pissing match more than an honest debate.
 
2013-01-26 12:45:56 PM  
Should the children be drug tested as well? Poor people like taking the drugs, or so I've heard. It was on Fox News so it must be true. *eyeroll*
 
2013-01-26 12:46:42 PM  

Curious: seems like most of you don't like Stacy and think his ideas stink. that they are opposed by Linda O'Neal, executive director of the Tennessee Commission on Children and Youth regardless of their merits makes me think this is a right/left pissing match more than an honest debate.


Link

Yeah... I'm sure she's against it because it's a pissing match and not because it's a terrible idea....
 
2013-01-26 12:47:28 PM  
Oh, I bet this is Stacy.
/clicks link.
Yep. Stacy Campbell. What a douchebag.
 
2013-01-26 12:51:52 PM  

Lucky LaRue: Did you read the article subby, or just see the headline and whip out your dog-whistle?

If you want to be taken seriously, subby, then try arguing against this guy's ideas instead of setting up straw men.


The financial well being of an entire family shouldn't rest on the outcome of a 1st grader's spelling test, is that a good enough arguement for you?
 
2013-01-26 12:53:41 PM  

Curious: seems like most of you don't like Stacy and think his ideas stink. that they are opposed by Linda O'Neal, executive director of the Tennessee Commission on Children and Youth regardless of their merits makes me think this is a right/left pissing match more than an honest debate.


His idea didn't seem far fetched until I learned we were talking about a buck eighty five for a mother of two. Now he just seems like a ginormous ahole. The repubs have already cut social safety nets beyond reason, this is just a way to cut more and appeal to goat fuqers who get off on going after anybody lower on the social scale then they are.
 
2013-01-26 12:53:50 PM  

Curious: seems like most of you don't like Stacy and think his ideas stink. that they are opposed by Linda O'Neal, executive director of the Tennessee Commission on Children and Youth regardless of their merits makes me think this is a right/left pissing match more than an honest debate.


What a brilliant insight. I can't think of any reason why the Executive Director of the Tennessee Commission on Children and Youth would object to decreasing resources for children living in poverty, so it must be because she just doesn't like the guy.

You sir, are a scholar.
 
2013-01-26 12:54:53 PM  
i can almost see his point, not sure if I agree with it

I think not penalizing someone who gets a job by cutting off benefits, but instead weaning them off as the income increases as they pass a set threshold in income may be a better idea
 
2013-01-26 12:56:52 PM  
Most of the parents would make their kids do worse in school if they got more involved.
 
2013-01-26 12:59:07 PM  
Has anyone pointed out that Stacey Campfield is a ginger?
 
2013-01-26 12:59:20 PM  
Once the kids get their utilities turned off those little brats will learn!

The repubs should take away their food along with the heat, that will really teach them.
 
2013-01-26 12:59:40 PM  

TofuTheAlmighty: The strongest predictor of poor educational outcomes is child poverty. The obvious solution: make children even poorer!


I know you're being sarcastic, but yes, this is a solution for Republicans. The more educated and informed a voter is, the more likely they are to vote Democrat. If making the poor even poorer hurts education, that's just an added bonus for the right.
 
2013-01-26 01:01:22 PM  
media.knoxnews.com

Why do all of these crazy Republican congressmen look like victims or perpetrators of child buggery?
 
2013-01-26 01:04:12 PM  

BronyMedic: Oh, I bet this is Stacy.
/clicks link.
Yep. Stacy Campbell. What a douchebag.


A different state rep proposed a bill a couple of days ago that would ban all diversity initiatives in TN colleges and actually had the nerve to call it the Civil Rights Initiative of 2013.

kid_icarus: As a resident of Knoxville, I want to print that post and leave it as flyers all over the cars at West Town Mall.


That would require going to the West Town Mall, and I don't know about you but I stay the hell out of that place.
 
2013-01-26 01:06:07 PM  
Let's leave behind the indisputable fact that this bill is bad simply because it was introduced by a soulless ginger, and look at the actual likely effects:

1) We can probably assume that kids in Special Ed would be exempt from the bill
2) Therefore, if a family with a failing kid made sure the kid so far behind that s/he ends up in Special Ed, then the family would get more money.
3) Therefore, this bill could actually hurt more children than it helps.
3) Link
 
2013-01-26 01:08:11 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: Stacey is a girl's name.


Stacey? What, you mean that kid with the girl's name?
www.saint.org
 
2013-01-26 01:08:46 PM  

GAT_00: BronyMedic: Oh, I bet this is Stacy.
/clicks link.
Yep. Stacy Campbell. What a douchebag.

A different state rep proposed a bill a couple of days ago that would ban all diversity initiatives in TN colleges and actually had the nerve to call it the Civil Rights Initiative of 2013.


Yeah, I'd also like to point out that Campfield was the mastermind behind the infamous "Don't Say Gay" bill.


kid_icarus: As a resident of Knoxville, I want to print that post and leave it as flyers all over the cars at West Town Mall.

That would require going to the West Town Mall, and I don't know about you but I stay the hell out of that place.


Hellz yes. I can't even remember the last time I went in there. Same for East Town Mall "Knoxville Center" (ha). The american mall is a dying creature, thank god.
 
2013-01-26 01:08:57 PM  
Ok, but lets increase the tax burden on parents whose children fail to make grades as well. "Your child is failing academically? We will increase your percentage of Medicare and SS tax you pay". That would work for me.
 
2013-01-26 01:08:57 PM  

thamike: Why do all of these crazy Republican congressmen look like victims or perpetrators of child buggery?


I think you're asking the wrong question. The correct question is "Why do all victims or perpetrators of child buggery become crazy republicans?"
 
2013-01-26 01:09:21 PM  

Emposter: TofuTheAlmighty: The strongest predictor of poor educational outcomes is child poverty. The obvious solution: make children even poorer!

I know you're being sarcastic, but yes, this is a solution for Republicans. The more educated and informed a voter is, the more likely they are to vote Democrat. If making the poor even poorer hurts education, that's just an added bonus for the right.


Republicans now control both houses and the governorship and the only thing saving us from this sort of total derpstorm that's occurring in places like Virginia, Texas, Arizona, and Florida, is that I think Bill Haslam wants to be president one day so he's trying to cover his ass by not going too far into the derp end of the pool.

/he's a "moderate republican"
//his daddy's oil money will buy him a national office one day, I'm guessing the Senate once Lamar Alexander drops dead after one too many marathon corporate dick sucking sessions.
///Keep sucking that dick for Alcoa and Pilot while your state turns into an impoverished hell hole! You might get a highway named after yourself!
 
2013-01-26 01:09:43 PM  
I am going out on a limb here and making a guess that many poor children are going to school poorly nourished. No breakfast, or limited breakfast, or maybe missing meals throughout the day. Kids who are hungry have a much harder time doing well in school. What this senator proposes just perpetuates a nasty circle of hunger-poor grades-less money for decent meals.

/tool.
 
2013-01-26 01:09:50 PM  

Curious: seems like most of you don't like Stacy and think his ideas stink. that they are opposed by Linda O'Neal, executive director of the Tennessee Commission on Children and Youth regardless of their merits makes me think this is a right/left pissing match more than an honest debate.


You can carry water for him all day long but he's not going to sleep with you.
 
2013-01-26 01:10:18 PM  
See, if this was a good idea, it wouldn't be tied to just poor people.

Here's another idea that would just as dumb. For every C or lower on your kid's report card, your property taxes go up by a half percent.
 
2013-01-26 01:10:40 PM  
There seems to be alot of objections to the proposals but no alternatives being offered.

Is there anyone disputing that education is the best path out of poverty?

Maybe postive incentives are better than negative incentives, (Hey my Dad paid for A's on report cards. $1 for each one.) Tying progress on the best path off of welfare to the amount of welfare you receive is really a pretty worthwhile idea.
 
2013-01-26 01:12:27 PM  

kid_icarus: Hellz yes. I can't even remember the last time I went in there. Same for East Town Mall "Knoxville Center" (ha). The american mall is a dying creature, thank god.


I go near that one sometimes when I go up to Target.  Does that count?
 
2013-01-26 01:14:38 PM  

Sass-O-Rev: I am going out on a limb here and making a guess that many poor children are going to school poorly nourished. No breakfast, or limited breakfast, or maybe missing meals throughout the day. Kids who are hungry have a much harder time doing well in school. What this senator proposes just perpetuates a nasty circle of hunger-poor grades-less money for decent meals.

/tool.


You would think so but it turns out to be a bad guess. We've been buying their breakfast and lunches for a very long time now.

Which, to your point about its impact on performance, I happen to agree with, FWIW.
 
2013-01-26 01:15:08 PM  

GAT_00: kid_icarus: Hellz yes. I can't even remember the last time I went in there. Same for East Town Mall "Knoxville Center" (ha). The american mall is a dying creature, thank god.

I go near that one sometimes when I go up to Target.  Does that count?


Nah, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
 
2013-01-26 01:18:16 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Curious: seems like most of you don't like Stacy and think his ideas stink. that they are opposed by Linda O'Neal, executive director of the Tennessee Commission on Children and Youth regardless of their merits makes me think this is a right/left pissing match more than an honest debate.

You can carry water for him all day long but he's not going to sleep with you.


You don't know that! Maybe "Curious" is an eight year old boy?
 
2013-01-26 01:18:18 PM  

cchris_39: Sass-O-Rev: I am going out on a limb here and making a guess that many poor children are going to school poorly nourished. No breakfast, or limited breakfast, or maybe missing meals throughout the day. Kids who are hungry have a much harder time doing well in school. What this senator proposes just perpetuates a nasty circle of hunger-poor grades-less money for decent meals.

/tool.

You would think so but it turns out to be a bad guess. We've been buying their breakfast and lunches for a very long time now.

Which, to your point about its impact on performance, I happen to agree with, FWIW.


Don't worry, a different tard in the Tennessee State House tried to limit kids getting free food at school a couple years back.
My google fu is failing me so i can't find the link atm.
 
2013-01-26 01:19:25 PM  

The Larch: thamike: Why do all of these crazy Republican congressmen look like victims or perpetrators of child buggery?

I think you're asking the wrong question. The correct question is "Why do all victims or perpetrators of child buggery become crazy republicans?"


That question answers itself.
 
2013-01-26 01:22:18 PM  
I'm sure this is in no way related to the correlation of inner city "urban" children who typically poorly in school with low funding coming from families on welfare.
 
2013-01-26 01:24:15 PM  

cchris_39: There seems to be alot of objections to the proposals but no alternatives being offered.

Is there anyone disputing that education is the best path out of poverty?

Maybe postive incentives are better than negative incentives, (Hey my Dad paid for A's on report cards. $1 for each one.) Tying progress on the best path off of welfare to the amount of welfare you receive is really a pretty worthwhile idea.


Some people actually do better when you beat them with a stick. There are a myriad of ways accessible to all of us in self improvement and the immediate rewards are tangible, so why don't we all just get off our duffs and do them? Because we can choose to if we want to- or choose not to if we don't want. Someone coming at you with a stick? Most people would agree- you gotta do something other than sit there.

The ideal way would be to double down offering incentives for those who comply and move forward, and pulling out the stick for those who choose to do nothing.
 
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