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(CNN)   Unless the US Justice Department makes it legal to steal information and post it online, Anonymous will steal information and post it online   (cnn.com ) divider line
    More: Obvious, U.S. Department of Justice, hacktivists, Internet activists, computer fraud, strategy games, Aaron Swartz, sentencing guidelines, internet freedom  
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2013-01-26 01:14:59 PM  
Hackivists...

I can't think of a more retarded word
 
2013-01-26 01:32:16 PM  
www.patentspostgrant.com
They'll keep throwing temper tantrums and making a scene though, 'for the cause'.
 
2013-01-26 01:36:27 PM  
"Hacktivist"?

Really?
 
2013-01-26 01:37:05 PM  

subtard is trolltard.

 
2013-01-26 01:38:21 PM  
good job anonymous.

Anyone who disagrees is a bed wetting pansy.
 
2013-01-26 01:39:03 PM  
The hackers apparently hijacked the website of the U.S. government agency responsible for federal sentencing guidelines

At least the distinction was made. When they hacked the CIA webpage, the phrasing implied actually breaking into the CIA's computer systems. This was minor vandalism.
 
2013-01-26 01:40:26 PM  
Uncle Reemus, will you marry me?
 
2013-01-26 01:45:47 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: "Hacktivist"?

Really?


Yes., The term goes back to 1986 and has been in common usage among hackers and technology media since the mid-late 90's
 
2013-01-26 01:58:18 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: [www.patentspostgrant.com image 480x360]
They'll keep throwing temper tantrums and making a scene though, 'for the cause'.


Aren't most acts of protest basically temper tantrums?
 
2013-01-26 02:18:31 PM  
"I got too full of myself, screwed up, and did something illegal that will almost certainly send me to prison. I can't handle that so I'm going to kill myself."

Now Anon is pretending that what it's "really" about is that the penalty was too harsh.

What's a "reasonable" penalty for stealing millions of documents and committing fraud? Oh they don't say that do they? Could it be because they're FOS and are doing this not because the guy killed himself but because they think they should be able to break the law and not be punished?

Go ahead Anon. You're right in thinking they can't catch all of you but I bet they can catch a whole hell of a lot more of you than you realize and out of the ones they don't catch I bet plenty of them abandon your little crusade and spend no small amount of weeks, if not years, wondering "Is today the day they will come arrest me?"
 
2013-01-26 02:22:35 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: The hackers apparently hijacked the website of the U.S. government agency responsible for federal sentencing guidelines

At least the distinction was made. When they hacked the CIA webpage, the phrasing implied actually breaking into the CIA's computer systems. This was minor vandalism.


Especially given that the server was running IIS7 and had probably never had a single security update applied.
 
2013-01-26 02:29:17 PM  
I'm still wondering when big bad Anonymous is going after the Mexican drug cartels. Things kind of went quiet when the cartels said, "Oh yeah, we employ hackers too. Also, murderers."
 
2013-01-26 02:42:44 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: The hackers apparently hijacked the website of the U.S. government agency responsible for federal sentencing guidelines

At least the distinction was made. When they hacked the CIA webpage, the phrasing implied actually breaking into the CIA's computer systems. This was minor vandalism.


Oblig:
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-01-26 02:48:46 PM  
cdn-static.zdnet.com

Fark the government.

They want to play hardball? Anon will just take them down.

This is what happens when you go after Anon.

There's many more Anons than there are jackbooted government thugs, and anon will continue making fools of them and then laughing at their public humiliation. Rinse and repeat. Back off the fascist activities or it will just continue.

Problem, government?
 
2013-01-26 03:12:32 PM  

Goodfella: [cdn-static.zdnet.com image 300x217]

Fark the government.

They want to play hardball? Anon will just take them down.

This is what happens when you go after Anon.

There's many more Anons than there are jackbooted government thugs, and anon will continue making fools of them and then laughing at their public humiliation. Rinse and repeat. Back off the fascist activities or it will just continue.

Problem, government?


How many proxies are you behind?
 
2013-01-26 03:24:09 PM  
Playtime is over kiddies,

While you were fantasizing about defending your rights with your pre packaged, 500% mark up "Assault Rifle" in a Red Dawn wet dream, someone has actually stood up and said, ENOUGH!

The war on our First Amendment rights has been devastating.Threatening fines of $150,00 for downloading a single music track. Imprisonment for telling the truth. Destroying any thought of privacy.
SOPA, PIPA, COICA,how many times will the government attempt to strangle the flow of information in this country without a mandate from the people? Why cant we vote on the relevant laws governing our freedom of speech?

So you say you will fight when they come for your guns. What will you do when they come for your computers?

/ Just like Americas addiction to petroleum, the bureaucracy is addicted to manipulation and secrecy. Anonymous has exposed that weakness. I'm sure they will be every bit as judicious and empathetic to the government as the petroleum companies have been to the average citizen.

// Anonymous says they are aware of the consequences of taking such actions. I hope they remember the fate of the Native Americans. or better yet, Vietnam....
 
2013-01-26 03:44:42 PM  
i172.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-26 03:47:36 PM  

Heraclitus: So you say you will fight when they come for your guns. What will you do when they come for your computers?


thumbs.newschoolers.com

always preparing for the last war while ignoring the next...
 
2013-01-26 04:27:35 PM  

randomjsa: "I got too full of myself, screwed up, and did something illegal that will almost certainly send me to prison. I can't handle that so I'm going to kill myself."

Now Anon is pretending that what it's "really" about is that the penalty was too harsh.

What's a "reasonable" penalty for stealing millions of documents and committing fraud? Oh they don't say that do they? Could it be because they're FOS and are doing this not because the guy killed himself but because they think they should be able to break the law and not be punished?

Go ahead Anon. You're right in thinking they can't catch all of you but I bet they can catch a whole hell of a lot more of you than you realize and out of the ones they don't catch I bet plenty of them abandon your little crusade and spend no small amount of weeks, if not years, wondering "Is today the day they will come arrest me?"


The idea is that information should be free flowing. Kinda like how patent trolls work, where you "own" information, and can sue anyone for not paying you for it. It is ludicrous that any of these scholarly articles should somehow be proprietary. If everyone has free access to information, we would all be better off.

Think of it this way, how would you feel if Wikipedia was shut down because the owner of some of the info on it said they didn't want you to have it? How about google?

Now, you gain access to that information, you honestly believe that the punishment for having information should be decades in prison? Kiddie diddlers don't even get that kind of time. Something like that should be at best a civil issue; but because we have dinosaurs who dont understand how computers work, and think that if you post a picture to facebook everyone can access your bank account that are creating these laws, this is what we get.
 
2013-01-26 04:28:39 PM  

randomjsa: "I got too full of myself, screwed up, and did something illegal that will almost certainly send me to prison. I can't handle that so I'm going to kill myself."

Now Anon is pretending that what it's "really" about is that the penalty was too harsh.

What's a "reasonable" penalty for stealing millions of documents and committing fraud? Oh they don't say that do they? Could it be because they're FOS and are doing this not because the guy killed himself but because they think they should be able to break the law and not be punished?

Go ahead Anon. You're right in thinking they can't catch all of you but I bet they can catch a whole hell of a lot more of you than you realize and out of the ones they don't catch I bet plenty of them abandon your little crusade and spend no small amount of weeks, if not years, wondering "Is today the day they will come arrest me?"


uneducated opinion is weak .
your whole argument there is based on something that isn't true.

so shush.

go read up on a subject before your spout drools more garbage out the end of it's bent tip.
 
2013-01-26 04:30:02 PM  

Heraclitus: So you say you will fight when they come for your guns. What will you do when they come for your computers?


why bother? they can already see everywhere you go.
 
2013-01-26 04:54:04 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: "Hacktivist"?

Really?


Uh, yes, really. Have you been living under a rock for the past decade?

It's a fairly common term.

And hey, Anonymous? Fark you! Take your hacking and shove it up your ass.
 
2013-01-26 07:32:53 PM  

Ordinary Genius:

The idea is that information should be free flowing. Kinda like how patent trolls work, where you "own" information, and can sue anyone for not paying you for it. It is ludicrous that any of these scholarly articles should somehow be proprietary. If everyone has free access to information, we would all be better off.

Think of it this way, how would you feel if Wikipedia was shut down because the owner of some of the info on it said they didn't want you to have it? How about google?

Now, you gain access to that information, you honestly believe that the punishment for having information should be decades in prison? Kiddie diddlers don't even get that kind of time. Something like that should be at best a civil issue; but because we have dinosaurs who dont understand how computers work, and think that if you post a picture to facebook everyone can access your bank account that are creating these laws, this is what we get.


I disagree with the notion that "if everyone has free access to information we would all be better off." Not to tangent too much, but where that philosophy has taken hold its net effect has been to transfer the profits of content away from content creators to the corporate interests who provide the data transmission infrastructure, which I don't see as particularly progressive.

But I don't have to agree with your philosophy about intellectual property rights to agree that a potential 35 year sentence for a non-violent property crime where the "victim" isn't supportive of the prosecution going forward is both a seperate issue and a travesty.
 
2013-01-26 08:15:35 PM  

Willas Tyrell: I disagree with the notion that "if everyone has free access to information we would all be better off." Not to tangent too much, but where that philosophy has taken hold its net effect has been to transfer the profits of content away from content creators to the corporate interests who provide the data transmission infrastructure, which I don't see as particularly progressive.


what?

...what?

Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have our first visitor from the Effect->Cause parallel universe.

The very idea behind libraries is that information is meant to be accessible and useful to everyone. In fact, the earliest philosophers that wrote on the concept of recorded information (books/scrolls) noted that it's primary function was to take one man's knowledge and make it the community's.

Capitalizing on this, as with anything else, isn't a revolutionary concept. Copyright law was meant to allow creators to earn their rightful due for things they create. It wasn't meant to hold domain over information indefinitely, it wasn't meant to sucker those seeking an education out of everything they are worth, it wasn't meant to develop into a self-perpetuating industry.

Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, there is a valid philosophy to the opposition. I can acknowledge violation of a property is a crime (it's legislated, this is a fact, it's not even debatable).

What we wish others could acknowledge is the property laws have become so absurd, every time someone sues and claims lost $$ over a violation, that absurd $$ amount and the pursuit of ridiculous criminal justice penalties is nothing more than an advertisement for just how unjust the laws are and a reminder of how much these organizations think they are entitled to steal from society. And while I know that is debatable, anyone that would claim indefinite monopoly over any amount of information is doing exactly that, robbing society.

Unreasonable greed which is (and always has) been one of the greatest enemies to a civilized and educated society. It's this same greed that caused what you seem to think attempted free information is to blame for. It's also to blame for the laws we face, as it's those to stand to gain unreasonably that will find ways to lobby and subvert democratic representatives into legislating the eternal hold on their "intellectual properties"

Make a movie? Sing a song? Write a book? Great. I hope you get rich off it. But 20 years later, that shiat is public domain.

Run a college? Your students pay exorbitant tuition to be there, maybe you could... I don't know... provide them the learning materials instead of charging them $1k/semester for them?

Running an alleged free and open society and democracy? Maybe you might want to actually let your citizenry see what it is you (their government) are doing so they can make informed decisions??

"As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."
--Commissioner Pravin Lal, "U.N. Declaration of Rights"
 
2013-01-26 08:16:00 PM  
i hope that Anon members join every club, group, hall, union and everything else that exists coast to coast. i hope they get important jobs in important companies and branches of military and government and everything else you can think of. may they learn the passwords and procedures and addresses, the secrets and lies and back room deals. and one day use it to right the wrongs and topple the mighty.

countries are led by those of great wealth and power, their fingers are in every pie and their ear is in every boardroom. they are low of morals and quick to employ suffering, death and destruction to gain what they have whims for. these are truly horrible people.

each of us in america is lorded over by a stack of laws, statutes, rules and regulations that pile up taller than you stand and there are more every day. no matter how outrageous the injustice that takes place in this country there is little more negative repercussion than picketing and petitions.

millions own firearms and none are willing to point them in the direction that would do most good. our votes mean little more than lip service while those who are not ready willing and able to play the game are left cold and hungry on the streets. a poor man sits in prison for pot while a rich man gets away with murder. this is not how life should be.

i wish Anon the best of luck. at the end of the day if they unleashed the bombs of ruination down upon the world i would laugh heartily and toast them "a job well done". my only regret is not having the intelligence and mad skills that would allow me to contribute, for i am but a fool among kings.
 
2013-01-26 08:30:08 PM  

Willas Tyrell: But I don't have to agree with your philosophy about intellectual property rights to agree that a potential 35 year sentence for a non-violent property crime where the "victim" isn't supportive of the prosecution going forward is both a seperate issue and a travesty.


35 years were never on the table. Prosecutors told him at the start that they would request 7 years if he was convicted.   The last deal that Swartz turned down included only six months of prison time.

Prosecutors are not in business to serve victims any more than defense attorneys are in business to serve justice.
 
2013-01-26 08:39:01 PM  
Hot off the press, for your viewing pleasure and dissemination to wider audiences, here's the torrent of the Operation Last Resort hack:


http://1337x.org/torrent/464785/Anonymous-Warheads-Operation-Last-Res o rt-USSC-LEAK/
 
2013-01-26 09:28:34 PM  
Using the federal government to enforce copyrights while ignoring economy-collapsing levels of fraud by wealthy and powerful Wall St. investors is outrageous. I'm wary of the unruly mob, but at this point I'm also wary of our supposedly orderly society and the interests that it seems to serve.

I used to wish we'd build an autobahn here in the States. Driving is fun, and driving fast moreso. Now, with a little more age and experience behind me, I don't. I know now that our society is not responsible enough to have one. Thousands would die as we all ditched in front of each other, tailgated, drove slowly in the left lane just 'cuz, etc.
 
2013-01-26 10:47:15 PM  
Thank you to the farkers posting after approximately the first dozen or so. The first dozen really seemed to me to be nightmarishly like counter intel/paid disinformationists Yes, computer security needs to be improved, but anonymous is correct: access to information is far too tightly restricted - read censored- for too many corrupt, selfish and downright bad reasons.
 
2013-01-26 11:32:15 PM  
cache.gawkerassets.com

Good luck, we're all counting on you!
 
2013-01-27 03:17:53 AM  

Goodfella:
This is what happens when you go after Anon.

There's many more Anons than there are jackbooted government thugs, and anon will continue making fools of them and then laughing at their public humiliation. Rinse and repeat. Back off the fascist activities or it will just continue.


And the federal government does not negotiate with terrorists foreign or domestic.

This case has gone too far, and Anonymous needs a reality check. Can we PLEASE track down these scripters and just lay them down with some nice fat charges?

Civil Disobedience comes with a price. Let us see them serve their time.
 
2013-01-27 05:57:27 AM  

KrispyKritter: i hope that Anon members join every club, group, hall, union and everything else that exists coast to coast. i hope they get important jobs in important companies and branches of military and government and everything else you can think of. may they learn the passwords and procedures and addresses, the secrets and lies and back room deals. and one day use it to right the wrongs and topple the mighty.

countries are led by those of great wealth and power, their fingers are in every pie and their ear is in every boardroom. they are low of morals and quick to employ suffering, death and destruction to gain what they have whims for. these are truly horrible people.

each of us in america is lorded over by a stack of laws, statutes, rules and regulations that pile up taller than you stand and there are more every day. no matter how outrageous the injustice that takes place in this country there is little more negative repercussion than picketing and petitions.

millions own firearms and none are willing to point them in the direction that would do most good. our votes mean little more than lip service while those who are not ready willing and able to play the game are left cold and hungry on the streets. a poor man sits in prison for pot while a rich man gets away with murder. this is not how life should be.

i wish Anon the best of luck. at the end of the day if they unleashed the bombs of ruination down upon the world i would laugh heartily and toast them "a job well done". my only regret is not having the intelligence and mad skills that would allow me to contribute, for i am but a fool among kings.


You click a button. It's not that hard.

-

There was actually a really good article written awhile back that analyzed the attacks on the Vatican. It broke down the entire sequence of events in chronological order, taking the reader step by step through the attempt.

It's not Anonymous that people should worry about. It's the people who would use Anonymous for malicious purposes that you have to worry about. Anon makes an excellent meat shield, because they're farking stupid and don't realize that they're being used as a meat shield.
 
2013-01-28 04:57:41 PM  

Haliburton Cummings: subtard is trolltard.


What part isn't true? Anonymous doesn't steal information? They're not anti-authority?
 
2013-01-29 01:40:39 AM  

Vash's Apprentice: Haliburton Cummings: subtard is trolltard.

What part isn't true? Anonymous doesn't steal information? They're not anti-authority?


Um, dude? If it's legal to disseminate information, it will not be "stealing", as "stealing" is illegal.
 
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