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(Wisconsin Gazette)   North Carolina wants to bar the bankrupt and welfare recipients from buying lottery tickets. No jackpots for the poor   (wisconsingazette.com) divider line 34
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Xai
2013-01-26 10:10:51 AM
5 votes:
the state lottery jackpot this week, after the new law passed banning desperate people from playing, is a whopping $12.50!
2013-01-26 09:10:50 AM
5 votes:
Corporations that receive govt money should not be allow to invest in stocks. Govt money shouldn't be used for gambling right?
2013-01-26 11:39:23 AM
4 votes:
i1125.photobucket.com

/So much bootstrappiness.
2013-01-26 10:25:59 AM
3 votes:
I recall a twin billboard on the way into Winston-Salem - one side reading "Let's Keep NC Drug Free" & the other reading "Winstons - No Bull".

Even all those years ago - the irony does not escape me...
2013-01-26 09:13:48 AM
3 votes:

johnryan51: Corporations that receive govt money should not be allow to invest in stocks. Govt money shouldn't be used for gambling right?


It isn't gambling when rich people do it.
2013-01-26 09:05:15 AM
3 votes:
Wouldn't this eliminate just about all of the lottery playing crowd?
2013-01-26 09:04:12 AM
3 votes:
Let's ban them from high paying  jobs too. Why should they get all the good deals.

mr_a: Given that we can't seem to stop people from using public funds to buy things that are already illegal, how exactly to they propose to enforce this?


They'll create a new department staffed with a couple of dozen inspectors, vehicle fleets  etc. and have them travel around surveilling those damned poor people. It will save tons  of money.
2013-01-26 01:04:20 PM
2 votes:

rnatalie: And why on earth is this story slugged under LGBT News?


Because the proposal is super gay.
2013-01-26 10:48:40 AM
2 votes:

Revek: EvilEgg: You can only do so much to protect people from themselves.  Everyone has the right to be mindbogglingly stupid.  The state should not both sponsor and moralize against "sins"

You can stop them from using public money to pay for their vice.


Are people really complaining about poor people taking money from the government, then immediately giving it back to the government? You people are idiots.
2013-01-26 10:41:23 AM
2 votes:

E5bie: Some legislators are just looking for excuses to make more laws.


Exactly what I was trying to say up there. It's like now more than in recent memory they're trying to justify their existence by passing or at least proposing all these frivolous laws, whether it be about rape babies or video games or whatever. We don't need more laws. We don't even enforce the ones we have properly.

TheDirtyNacho: Indian casinos are a sad sight.


It's okay. I lost big at blackjack recently (I never lose at blackjack). I left a blanket at the owner's office door.
2013-01-26 10:36:05 AM
2 votes:
Can we add social security to the list of things that should not be spent on gambling? Indian casinos are a sad sight.
2013-01-26 10:15:14 AM
2 votes:
I don't get it. Is he saying that playing the lottery isn't worth it?

color me shocked.
2013-01-26 09:45:19 AM
2 votes:
Demonize the poor.  Ignore the real problems that underlie poverty.  Lather.  Rinse.  Repeat.
2013-01-26 09:35:23 AM
2 votes:
I always turn to a gay Wisconsin newspaper for my North Carolina lottery news.
2013-01-26 08:32:44 AM
2 votes:

Via Infinito: MmmmBacon: Via Infinito: I can see them not accepting EBT to pay for the lottery tickets, but prohibiting welfare recipients from playing at all seems crappy.

It probably doesn't stop them from playing, but prevents them from winning. So when these desperate Welfare recipients buy a lottery ticket and lose, that's just more money in the system. But if they lose? "Sorry, you're on welfare, therefore you are not eligible for this prize". I doubt it would go back into the pool for the next week, though... Maybe their winnings will go to fund some "state project", instead?

But that's even crappier, isn't it? Letting them spending that dollar they found under the cushions on a lottery ticket, but not letting them have the prize when they win? I don't think lottery winners should be allowed to STAY on welfare when they win, but making people ineligible for the prize because they've been dealt a seriously shiatty hand at life just seems incredibly mean-spirited. I'm not sure what kind of point they're trying to make here.


They are saying that the mythic "Welfare Queen" (which doesn't really exist, other than in the minds of the GOP) shouldn't get to spend her ill-gotten stipend on a chance at getting rich like they are. She and her 12 illegitimate children might lower the values of the GOP's mansions, should WQ move into their neighborhood.

It is racism and classism, with a hint of "playing to the zealots in our base".
2013-01-26 02:19:07 PM
1 votes:

DrewCurtisJr: Via Infinito: But that's even crappier, isn't it? Letting them spending that dollar they found under the cushions on a lottery ticket, but not letting them have the prize when they win? I don't think lottery winners should be allowed to STAY on welfare when they win, but making people ineligible for the prize because they've been dealt a seriously shiatty hand at life just seems incredibly mean-spirited. I'm not sure what kind of point they're trying to make here.

If you have been dealt such a bad hand you would be better off saving any found money instead of spending it on frivolity.


That dollar a week is really going to add up!

/especially when you add interest
2013-01-26 01:05:39 PM
1 votes:
I assume that Fox News has just changed the Government of North Carolina from (R) to (D) in its propaganda feed.

I mean, they no doubt mean well, but this kind of Nanny Statism stands in the way of two of the most important and basic Republican values:  screwing poor people and funding big government without taxation on rich people.

The stupid tax is custom made for the stupid party.

It allows the poor and the Hopey, Changey to waste their money on futile hope without any cost to those who look at a $20 million pot and say and "meh". Not enough to make it worthwhile to visit a convenience store.

Personally, I don't get out of bed for a 649 lottery pot that is less than $28 million. It's just stupid. So a stupid tax is of great personal benefit to me, even though I am not a One Percenter. But this is the wrong way to fix the Stupid Problem.

The right way is to set Republicans on fire, using a pile of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter books as fuel. There's a reason why Republicans hate the 911 firemen. They associate firemen with book-burning, and book-burning with witch hunts that can so easily be turned into rich hunts in the hands of the needy-greedy.
2013-01-26 12:36:10 PM
1 votes:

space1999: MmmmBacon: They are saying that the mythic "Welfare Queen" (which doesn't really exist, other than in the minds of the GOP)

Sorry, bud, but there are quite a few welfare queens. Sure, they're in the minority, but saying that they don't exist is naive. I have personal experience with them.


I overheard a hilarious conversation yesterday while waiting for and on an elevator, woman was on the phone with a friend, it was something like;

"I know! My sister wants another baby."

"She already got 3, and she gets $300 a month for each one, thats an extra six---- i mean $900 a month."

"And that biatch works too."

"shiat, almost makes me want to vote republican."
2013-01-26 11:35:54 AM
1 votes:

DrewCurtisJr: Via Infinito: But that's even crappier, isn't it? Letting them spending that dollar they found under the cushions on a lottery ticket, but not letting them have the prize when they win? I don't think lottery winners should be allowed to STAY on welfare when they win, but making people ineligible for the prize because they've been dealt a seriously shiatty hand at life just seems incredibly mean-spirited. I'm not sure what kind of point they're trying to make here.

If you have been dealt such a bad hand you would be better off saving any found money instead of spending it on frivolity.


When did Oliver Cromwell get a Fark account?
2013-01-26 11:16:38 AM
1 votes:

EvilEgg: You can only do so much to protect people from themselves.  Everyone has the right to be mindbogglingly stupid.  The state should not both sponsor and moralize against "sins"


You mean, like subsidizing tobacco growers, and at the same time telling everyone how evil tobacco is?

/amidoingitright?
2013-01-26 11:01:04 AM
1 votes:
Jesus, just leave poor people alone. Why do you care how they spend their money?
2013-01-26 10:49:11 AM
1 votes:
If my tax dollars are paying for their ticket, then I get the money if they win, right?
2013-01-26 10:41:51 AM
1 votes:

MmmmBacon: Via Infinito: I can see them not accepting EBT to pay for the lottery tickets, but prohibiting welfare recipients from playing at all seems crappy.

It probably doesn't stop them from playing, but prevents them from winning. So when these desperate Welfare recipients buy a lottery ticket and lose, that's just more money in the system. But if they lose? "Sorry, you're on welfare, therefore you are not eligible for this prize". I doubt it would go back into the pool for the next week, though... Maybe their winnings will go to fund some "state project", instead?


See, If I ran the lottery, I'd make it so that the welfare winner would have to pay back all that they had taken out in welfare from their lottery winnings before they get to take any home. You know, kinda like they take out the welfare from my paycheck each week before I get to take my share home.

At least with the lottery I can choose to fund that system or not.
2013-01-26 10:37:01 AM
1 votes:
Well we all know that poor people aren't really. . . people, so we should be able to take away their rights with impunity.
2013-01-26 10:30:47 AM
1 votes:

Summer Glau's Love Slave: This will become law, of that I have no doubt. The repugs own Raleigh, and they're mostly just one step away from being tea baggers.

/Welcome to North Carolina.
//Please set your watches back 200 years.


There is a bright side: you could be stuck in your neighbor to the south.

/Alvin Greene, please call your office...
2013-01-26 10:30:30 AM
1 votes:
This would actually create a market.

The poor who win jackpots but realize they would be fully claimed by the welfare agency could now sell them for cash (at a discount) to someone who could claim them without the levy.

So that million dollar ticket that the state would fully garnish? Well, I'll buy it off you for $400k, and when I cash it in I'm in the clear. Figure the prize taxes come out to half, and I've got a $100k profit.

/I wonder if a ticket could be claimed by a corporation?
//One located in Belize
2013-01-26 10:21:07 AM
1 votes:

EvilEgg: You can only do so much to protect people from themselves.  Everyone has the right to be mindbogglingly stupid.  The state should not both sponsor and moralize against "sins"


Right.
So what your saying is that we should protect them from their own mistakes or bad luck by sending the govt checks, but then allow them to spend those checks on idiotic pursuits.

People on the dole should know it.
If you are on welfare you should be trying to get off welfare. People on welfare are like the kid who got held back 2 grades in school. That's how other people look at you if you are able-bodied.
2013-01-26 10:18:48 AM
1 votes:
The poor can buy lottery tickets: "OMG TAX ON THE POOR."

The poor can't buy lottery tickets: "OMG THEY'RE BEING OPPRESSED."

/Make up your minds.
2013-01-26 10:16:07 AM
1 votes:

jack_sawyer75: I agree. Now add drug testing, and not allowing them to buy cigarettes, tattoos would make it all perfect.


lol. Drug testing. I see you're in favor of corporate welfare, at least.
2013-01-26 10:14:58 AM
1 votes:
2 weeks from now-

Official Press Release
RE: North Carolina State Lottery
SUBJ: We Farked up

Good afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen. Basically the reason we called this Press conference is to publicly announce how retarded we are. And it's a lot. like, "that ugly dude from the goonies" retarded. Oh, and we're bankrupt. so, if everyone could just leave quickly, i'll uh...snag those lights there...just yeah....ok. bye
2013-01-26 10:12:26 AM
1 votes:
I agree. Now add drug testing, and not allowing them to buy cigarettes, tattoos would make it all perfect.
GBB
2013-01-26 10:11:14 AM
1 votes:

Giltric: I bet if they do win the lottery they find a job within 2 minutes in order to claim the ticket.


I'll hire them in exchage for 10% of their winnings.
2013-01-26 10:08:02 AM
1 votes:
I bet if they do win the lottery they find a job within 2 minutes in order to claim the ticket.
2013-01-26 09:14:36 AM
1 votes:
Keep the peasants fighting amongst themselves over pennies.
 
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