Ed Finnerty: BronyMedic: I call shenanigans on this one, and I want more information. The brief blurb the Daily Fail presents makes it sound like the guy was basically raised in a cult which groomed him for what he did from an early age. I'm willing to bet based on that they put up some sort of mental defense, based on the fact the defense claimed he didn't have the capacity to understand it was wrong to do it.Also, 13 is ephebophile, not pedophile.In all fairness, the Daily Fail is about as accurate and informative as public restroom graffiti.
MacEnvy: sithon: he was let go? brits your legal system is broken .Honestly it's hard to tell with the Daily Mail reporting. Could be entirely made up. That would be less surprising than if it was true in full.
starsrift: So, ignorance of the law is now a defense, in the UK?/ she's legal in Spain
fusillade762: Whatever happened to that "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" thing?
alienated: i really wish this kind of garbage never made it to mainpage, but thats not just me.It is not just me, and a lot of you know this.Im taking the weekend off- be seeing you
Fade2black: fusillade762: Whatever happened to that "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" thing?Britain, not the U.S.
AverageAmericanGuy: Living in Japan, I just have to say: There, but for the grace of God, go I.Everywhere you look here, everything is overtly sexualized. And age is something hard to pin down. Is that girl in her school uniform with her skirt hiked up with the hem just below her bottom 13 or 23? And the temptation on the escalator and stairs to stop staring at the floor and just look up for a second, I swear, just a peek, and enjoy the delights the girl so wantonly displays. If I say hello and try to make conversation, am I going to be talking to a school girl on her way to school or to an adult woman playing dress up? If she smiles back and comes closer, I can't believe there's no other choice than to step away out of fear of the law. Such supple thighs. Wonderfully pert breasts. Long black hair and eyes gleaming with pure sexual evil.Every day is a battle. Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. You only hope that when you lose, the police don't come knocking.
fusillade762: Satanic_Hamster: Any non-Daily Mail source? Assuming none of this ever happened or the 13 year old girl was actually a sheep or something.Hey, it's on Stormfront, too. So it must be legit.
Mega Steve: As some of you have said, this is the Daily Fail and we're probably not getting the whole story.Based on the article, though, I'd call bullshiat on his defense.First off, ignorance of the law is no excuse. This opens the door for more guys to use the same defense.Secondly, I have to doubt his ignorance when, even though he went to Islamic schools his whole life and lived in a closed community, he still lived most if not all his life in the UK, was internet savvy enough to find the girl on Facebook, exchanged texts, and met up with her at a motel rather than, say, going over and meeting her folks.Thirdly, he used a rubber. If he was truly as naive as they say, I'd find hard to believe he'd even consider thatNow, I do kinda agree that since he didn't really FORCE her into it he probably shouldn't get jail time. Along with the probation, he should also have to go through some sort of base legal education if he really is that ignorant of the laws of the country he lives in.
Azlefty: teto85: He was just emulating the Prophet.Well if he had been Catholic it would have been 7 year old boy
Azlefty: teto85: He was just emulating the Prophet.Well if he had been Catholic your basic christian it would have been 7 year old boy
slayer199: "In other interviews with psychologists, Rashid claimed he had been taught in his school that 'women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground;."And to reinforce that belief, the judge lets him go. Way to value women UK.
GAT_00: MacEnvy: sithon: he was let go? brits your legal system is broken .Honestly it's hard to tell with the Daily Mail reporting. Could be entirely made up. That would be less surprising than if it was true in full.There is always at least one significant piece of information missing when the Fail reports to stir up outrage.
BronyMedic: starsrift: So, ignorance of the law is now a defense, in the UK?/ she's legal in SpainIgnorance of the law is not the same as being raised in an environment where you do not know the difference between right and wrong, or do have the ability to tell the difference.
starsrift: Sounds all the same to me. Why is ignorance for one reason culpable but ignorance for another reason not? If you don't know you're doing wrong... Then you don't know you're doing wrong! Doesn't matter why, does it? Should it?
TomD9938: FTA : The girl told police they stayed at the hotel for two hours and had sex after Rashid went to the bathroom and emerged wearing a condom.Smooooth.
doglover: "I didn't know I couldn't cut his heart out with a flint knife because I'm an Aztec."
You.. can be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes! You can be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes! You say.. "Steve.. how can I be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes?" First.. get a million dollars. Now.. you say, "Steve.. what do I say to the tax man when he comes to my door and says, 'You.. have never paid taxes'?" Two simple words. Two simple words in the English language: "I forgot!" How many times do we let ourselves get into terrible situations because we don't say "I forgot"? Let's say you're on trial for armed robbery. You say to the judge, "I forgot armed robbery was illegal." Let's suppose he says back to you, "You have committed a foul crime. you have stolen hundreds and thousands of dollars from people at random, and you say, 'I forgot'?" Two simple words: Excuuuuuse me!!"
salsashark1: First amendment.Look it up.
Satanic_Hamster: Any non-Daily Mail source? Assuming none of this ever happened or the 13 year old girl was actually a sheep or something.
Sensei Can You See: Azlefty: teto85: He was just emulating the Prophet.Well if he had been Catholic it would have been 7 year old boyAnd his ass would be in jail where it belongs.
teto85: He was just emulating the Prophet.
Green Scorpio: salsashark1: First amendment.Look it up.Even if the first amendment applied to this guy, I don't see how he could use it in his defense.
sendtodave: teto85: He was just emulating the Prophet.The Blessed Virgin Mary was 14.
Uchiha_Cycliste: What you do is talk to them and then ask her to go out for a drink. If she gets carded and gets through it's all good. If she is turned away you go in for a drink alone and when you leave she's gone, no harm no foul.the key here is having her ID checked for age by someone else ;)
AverageAmericanGuy: Uchiha_Cycliste: What you do is talk to them and then ask her to go out for a drink. If she gets carded and gets through it's all good. If she is turned away you go in for a drink alone and when you leave she's gone, no harm no foul.the key here is having her ID checked for age by someone else ;)Hm. That might work better than my current method of feeling for pubic hair.
LewDux: Farkers, don't mention conservative right. I mentioned them once, but I think I got away with it all right.
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