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2013-01-26 12:39:37 AM  
Because when I want to read up on African-American news, I choose NRO.
 
2013-01-26 12:56:55 AM  
Massachusetts law bans "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior" and warns that such behavior can be punished by up to three years in state prison or two years in county jail.

Does wearing baggy pants really reach the level of "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior"?
 
2013-01-26 01:04:51 AM  
Haven't laws like this been ruled unconstitutional already.
 
2013-01-26 01:15:01 AM  
My favorite part is that NRO presents it entirely without comment. Then they let the commenters loose.
 
2013-01-26 01:27:25 AM  
I can't think of anything more sublimely fascistic than laws dictating fashion taste.

Plus, cops probably love the sagging pants thing.  It makes the thugs so much easier to catch.
 
2013-01-26 01:35:25 AM  

Bucky Katt: Haven't laws like this been ruled unconstitutional already.



I think its safe to say a law that gives you a potential 3 year prison sentence for wearing ill-fitting pants is unconstitutional.  Doesn't stop them from making a dumbass commercial threatening it, though,
 
2013-01-26 03:06:45 AM  
I don't get how the pants don't fall down but I also don't understand why people care how others wear their pants. I work with African American adolescent males aged 13-17 at my job. If it did bother me I wouldn't have made it past the first day.
 
2013-01-26 03:57:07 AM  
i236.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-26 04:18:45 AM  
This type of law is how racists continue to subvert the African American populations in America. You'll never hear a racist use the n-word. You'll never see a racist dressed in a KKK robes. You'll never be shut out of a restaurant run by racists. It's not how they work anymore.

Now they pick cultural aspects and vilify those. "Tough on crime", "anti-baggy pants legislation", "3 strikes and you're out", "welfare queens", and "urban culture" are all code words that racists use to target the black race without either using the word 'black' or specifying blacks in particular. They hone in on behaviors that society at large feels negatively towards and use that to create a system of laws that keeps blacks under the thumb of white society.
 
2013-01-26 04:20:09 AM  

lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]


I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!
 
2013-01-26 04:20:21 AM  
I heard Wisconsin is making skinny jeans a death penalty offense.
 
2013-01-26 04:25:06 AM  
So exposing one's boxer shorts by sagging one's pants constitutes "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior", while all the upper middle class white guys here on the Cape can (weather permitting) jog down public roadways wearing only a pair of jogging shorts that are more revealing than any pair of boxers. That sounds perfectly reasonable and not in any way designed as a means to harass people from "undesirable" demographics.
 
2013-01-26 04:25:59 AM  

Quaker: So exposing one's boxer shorts by sagging one's pants constitutes "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior", while all the upper middle class white guys here on the Cape can (weather permitting) jog down public roadways wearing only a pair of jogging shorts that are more revealing than any pair of boxers. That sounds perfectly reasonable and not in any way designed as a means to harass people from "undesirable" demographics.


You ever seen a black man in a speedo, son? When they get up to speed, they're knocking people three feet away out. I once saw a man go airborne from the meatspin!
 
2013-01-26 04:26:28 AM  
I'm flabbergasted at how many people are supportive of this kind of thing.
 
2013-01-26 04:38:44 AM  
PANTS CRIME!
 
2013-01-26 04:39:12 AM  
www.examiner.com

approves.
 
2013-01-26 04:40:13 AM  
Hahahha they just had to use a black cop in the video..I've seen plenty of white kids with the Chinese disease too.....dragon ass
.
 
2013-01-26 04:54:00 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: This type of law is how racists continue to subvert the African American populations in America. You'll never hear a racist use the n-word. You'll never see a racist dressed in a KKK robes. You'll never be shut out of a restaurant run by racists. It's not how they work anymore.

Now they pick cultural aspects and vilify those. "Tough on crime", "anti-baggy pants legislation", "3 strikes and you're out", "welfare queens", and "urban culture" are all code words that racists use to target the black race without either using the word 'black' or specifying blacks in particular. They hone in on behaviors that society at large feels negatively towards and use that to create a system of laws that keeps blacks under the thumb of white society.


The laws are stupid. But so is walking around with your pants like that. It's like someone waving a rebel flag, you know that person probably isn't very intelligent and interactions are going to tedious.
 
2013-01-26 04:55:51 AM  

Girion47: The laws are stupid. But so is walking around with your pants like that. It's like someone waving a rebel flag, you know that person probably isn't very intelligent and interactions are going to tedious.


To paraphrase Steven Tyler: If you can judge a wise man by the way he wears his clothes, then Mister, you're a better man than I.
 
2013-01-26 04:56:21 AM  
Guess i'm a fascist too. I have a hard time getting upset about this.

Honestly, its been a 'fashion' since the 90's. Can't you punks come up with something else?
 
2013-01-26 04:58:46 AM  

fusillade762: Does wearing baggy pants really reach the level of "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior"?


It does when half your ass crack is showing.  I can't think of any thing more openly gross and lewd than the ass crack of a teenaged boy.
 
2013-01-26 05:02:34 AM  

Deacon Blue: fusillade762: Does wearing baggy pants really reach the level of "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior"?

It does when half your ass crack is showing.  I can't think of any thing more openly gross and lewd than the ass crack of a teenaged boy.


What about that of an overweight middle-aged man? I hate when their belly forms its own kind of blob like entity and leaks down over their belt, sometimes hanging out the bottom of the shirt like this pale gelatinous beast.
 
2013-01-26 05:02:58 AM  
Usually not the one to say stuff is racist, but this is racist.
 
2013-01-26 05:15:09 AM  

Smgth: There's a specifically black mental health association? Black ppl go crazy in different ways then others? Seems kinda....racist.


If biologically, they are more susceptible to a disease, it doesn't make it racist. Degradation of protein isn't some malicious slight against someone because of skin color, it's just genetic.
 
2013-01-26 05:15:15 AM  
www.bluegraysky.com
/oblig
// for shame, Fark
 
2013-01-26 05:16:36 AM  
The elders approves
 
2013-01-26 05:18:21 AM  

fusillade762: Massachusetts law bans "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior" and warns that such behavior can be punished by up to three years in state prison or two years in county jail.

Does wearing baggy pants really reach the level of "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior"?


Hear ye, hear ye.

Thou shalt wear nought but knee breeches and buckled shoes in this Commonweal, or we shall send thee packing to the wilds of Rhode Island.
 
2013-01-26 05:18:49 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: This type of law is how racists continue to subvert the African American populations in America. You'll never hear a racist use the n-word. You'll never see a racist dressed in a KKK robes. You'll never be shut out of a restaurant run by racists. It's not how they work anymore.

Now they pick cultural aspects and vilify those. "Tough on crime", "anti-baggy pants legislation", "3 strikes and you're out", "welfare queens", and "urban culture" are all code words that racists use to target the black race without either using the word 'black' or specifying blacks in particular. They hone in on behaviors that society at large feels negatively towards and use that to create a system of laws that keeps blacks under the thumb of white society.


nice try. you forgot "African-American", the most racial epitaph ever.
 
2013-01-26 05:27:38 AM  

daveUSMC: Usually not the one to say stuff is racist, but this is racist.



Where do you live? I see just as many white kids doin it around here. Well ok not just as many, but maybe 30% of the offenders.

Btw, just the fact of the origin of this stupid fad makes it even stupider..I'm thinkin i'm ok with just a small fine. Something along the lines of a parking ticket, if you don't pay it you'll end up in court. That should be enough deterrence
 
2013-01-26 05:31:17 AM  
I'm all for it. Lame farking nubians are just aksing to get farked with. Pigs put the beat down on hippies, i dont see a problem with harassing baggie pants fools
 
2013-01-26 05:43:55 AM  
If this stands, then how are gay males supposed to signal to the world at large that they are available to be pegged?

Seems rather unfair to me.
 
2013-01-26 05:49:32 AM  

gothelder: If this stands, then how are gay males supposed to signal to the world at large that they are available to be pegged?

Seems rather unfair to me.


That's what Grindr is for, do keep up. Also, I'm pretty sure gay guys don't get pegged, straight guys do.
 
2013-01-26 05:51:09 AM  
blogs.riverfronttimes.com

/lol,
//i bet he's attractive and successful
 
2013-01-26 05:54:09 AM  

SpdrJay: I heard Wisconsin is making skinny jeans a death penalty offense.


Listen, I would never wear them myself, but I can totally understand why a cyclist who doesn't wear bike clothes would like skinny jeans. Can you at least give a pass for folks who are trying to keep their pants out of their drive-train? Isn't that better than having them wear normal jeans, but drive a car? Those skinny jeans are making your commute shorter.
 
2013-01-26 05:58:28 AM  
0.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com cdn-www.i-am-bored.com
 
2013-01-26 05:59:09 AM  

daveUSMC: Usually not the one to say stuff is racist, but this is racist.


did you ever get to go back and listen to the talk of the nation segment on women in the military?

And while I have you attention, do you know if they plan to ever let cyclists through camp Pendleton again?
We used to be able to ride through, then 9/11 happened and we could only get through with a CA drivers license and last I heard now we have no access at all. We have to get on the 5 at Las Pulgas and off at the first exit and it's scary as all hell since it's 8 miles of 8 lanes of folks driving at 100 mph and really shiatty shoulders filled with debris. So, what's the deal?
 
2013-01-26 06:00:40 AM  
 
2013-01-26 06:02:57 AM  
Oh do-gooders of Massachusetts, what good you've done! Just don't come crying when YOUR favorite form of expression gets outlawed.
 
2013-01-26 06:09:28 AM  

RogueLeader: Oh do-gooders of Massachusetts, what good you've done! Just don't come crying when YOUR favorite form of expression gets outlawed.


You think that's bad, not long ago CA tried to make a go at outlawing pacifiers if it wasn't a baby using it. Under the guise of somehow discouraging drug use by banning pacifiers. =/
 
2013-01-26 06:10:43 AM  
Why couldn't this become a fad for hot chicks? Why do only dumpy, hairy teen and twenty-something guys dress this way? That's the real crime here.
 
2013-01-26 06:13:57 AM  
We don't have a large black population around here, but I really want to walk up to the white kids that think they are ghetto and slap their hat the right direction and give them a super wedgie for letting their pants droop.

...my lawn....
 
2013-01-26 06:15:40 AM  
And yet the runners and bicyclers are allowed to wear cock-hugging lycra.
 
2013-01-26 06:17:06 AM  

Bungles: And yet the runners and bicyclers are allowed to wear cock-hugging lycra.


It's because we look good in it ;)
 
2013-01-26 06:23:11 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: daveUSMC: Usually not the one to say stuff is racist, but this is racist.

did you ever get to go back and listen to the talk of the nation segment on women in the military?

And while I have you attention, do you know if they plan to ever let cyclists through camp Pendleton again?
We used to be able to ride through, then 9/11 happened and we could only get through with a CA drivers license and last I heard now we have no access at all. We have to get on the 5 at Las Pulgas and off at the first exit and it's scary as all hell since it's 8 miles of 8 lanes of folks driving at 100 mph and really shiatty shoulders filled with debris. So, what's the deal?


When I was at Pendleton, I lived on base, so I didn't really deal with gate traffic much. Never noticed any bicyclists there going through, though. Reading transcript now.
 
2013-01-26 06:30:19 AM  

daveUSMC: Uchiha_Cycliste: daveUSMC: Usually not the one to say stuff is racist, but this is racist.

did you ever get to go back and listen to the talk of the nation segment on women in the military?

And while I have you attention, do you know if they plan to ever let cyclists through camp Pendleton again?
We used to be able to ride through, then 9/11 happened and we could only get through with a CA drivers license and last I heard now we have no access at all. We have to get on the 5 at Las Pulgas and off at the first exit and it's scary as all hell since it's 8 miles of 8 lanes of folks driving at 100 mph and really shiatty shoulders filled with debris. So, what's the deal?

When I was at Pendleton, I lived on base, so I didn't really deal with gate traffic much. Never noticed any bicyclists there going through, though. Reading transcript now.


when were you there? I kind of assumed you still were from you profile's location.
Like I said we used to be able to ride through, I used to ride from my parents place in Laguna Niguel to UCSD in La Jolla. But haven't done it since they started forcing us onto the 5... HELL NO!

\On a side note, tank crossing signs are a pretty surreal sight when riding a bicycle.
 
2013-01-26 06:30:27 AM  
It's a waist band, not a butt band, a hip band, or as noted above thigh, knee or ankle band. Some of these guys just need to go ahead and quit wearing the bottoms at all. Be proud of your return to your robe wearing roots, whether African, Middle Eastern, or Roman.
 
2013-01-26 06:34:29 AM  
whether the law applies or not, or if its constitutional or not...

why are the cops running an ad telling kids to pull up their pants? No homeless people to feed up there?
 
2013-01-26 06:35:08 AM  

cherryl taggart: It's a waist band, not a butt band, a hip band, or as noted above thigh, knee or ankle band. Some of these guys just need to go ahead and quit wearing the bottoms at all. Be proud of your return to your robe wearing roots, whether African, Middle Eastern, or Roman.



Most modern trousers have a "waistband" that's designed to fall absolutely nowhere near the waist but close to the hip. You can't physically wear them on your waist, because there isn't enough material.
 
2013-01-26 06:35:46 AM  

Bucky Katt: Haven't laws like this been ruled unconstitutional already.


.
Massachusetts is a Constitution Free Zone, just like D.C..
 
2013-01-26 06:39:14 AM  

cherryl taggart: It's a waist band, not a butt band, a hip band, or as noted above thigh, knee or ankle band. Some of these guys just need to go ahead and quit wearing the bottoms at all. Be proud of your return to your robe wearing roots, whether African, Middle Eastern, or Roman.


You sound like you'd be a blast at parties.
 
2013-01-26 06:39:32 AM  

BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!


Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.
 
2013-01-26 06:41:59 AM  

enry: Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.


Ah. You're talking about the dreaded Police Union. You might be interested to know that the IAFF outspends all of them.
 
2013-01-26 06:56:19 AM  

enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.


Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign
 
2013-01-26 07:01:04 AM  

Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign


Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.
 
2013-01-26 07:04:04 AM  

Rufus Lee King: Personally, I would support penalties for white dudes who wear their baseball caps backwards and speak in "Ebonics". Nothing too severe, mind you; maybe strap them to a chair and make them watch Vanilla Ice on a constant loop for a couple of days straight.

[www.funflicks.org image 300x225]


I sometimes wear a ball cap sideways when I need the bill aimed towards the sun to ensure my eyes remain shaded... is that ok?
 
2013-01-26 07:07:03 AM  

Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign


In my state I can buy beer in the grocery store. And then I can buy beer/wine/liquor in liquor stores. Hell in Texas they have barns you drive into, pick out what you want, and they'll bring it to your car.
 
2013-01-26 07:13:53 AM  
I have a sneaking suspicion that the cops around here (Fall River, MA) aren't going to be siting anyone for "baggy pants" any time soon... They wouldn't have time to do anything else.

What a stupid thing to be concerned about.


On a less serious note, It always cracks me up on COPS when perps sporting this look try to run from the police... If I were a person who's choices in life required the occasional sprint away from a police officer, I would be walking around in a good fitting track suit every day... 'Course then I'd look like a Russian mobster.
 
2013-01-26 07:14:41 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.



I thought the world had invented a thing called taxes? Why does the state need to be selling anything itself in order to collect those?
 
2013-01-26 07:15:43 AM  

Bungles: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.


I thought the world had invented a thing called taxes? Why does the state need to be selling anything itself in order to collect those?


But... what if they get the taxes AND the profits?
 
2013-01-26 07:18:07 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.


No state run stores in MA. You have to buy beer/wine/booze in a liquor store except in certain circunstances that I haven't quite figured out. If you go just north of our border to NH, the state sells you wine and booze but you can buy beer in the grocery store.
 
2013-01-26 07:19:26 AM  

enry: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.

No state run stores in MA. You have to buy beer/wine/booze in a liquor store except in certain circunstances that I haven't quite figured out. If you go just north of our border to NH, the state sells you wine and booze but you can buy beer in the grocery store.


PA has state run stores, right?
 
2013-01-26 07:19:49 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.


I thought the world had invented a thing called taxes? Why does the state need to be selling anything itself in order to collect those?

But... what if they get the taxes AND the profits?


How bizarre. There's be a revolution in the UK if the state tried to monopolise a market like that, and we're comparatively the libbiest libs who ever lived.
 
2013-01-26 07:21:54 AM  
BronyMedic:You ever seen a black man in a speedo, son? When they get up to speed, they're knocking people three feet away out. I once saw a man go airborne from the meatspin!

Coffee ---> Monitor

Well played, sir.
 
2013-01-26 07:22:36 AM  

Bungles: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.


I thought the world had invented a thing called taxes? Why does the state need to be selling anything itself in order to collect those?

But... what if they get the taxes AND the profits?

How bizarre. There's be a revolution in the UK if the state tried to monopolise a market like that, and we're comparatively the libbiest libs who ever lived.


And with a surveillance camera every two feet, would that revolution be televised?
 
2013-01-26 07:24:27 AM  

Gwendolyn: I don't get how the pants don't fall down but I also don't understand why people care how others wear their pants. I work with African American adolescent males aged 13-17 at my job. If it did bother me I wouldn't have made it past the first day.


I call bullshiat, because you can't get any work done while holding up your pants with one hand.
 
2013-01-26 07:26:55 AM  

robohobo: Bungles: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.


I thought the world had invented a thing called taxes? Why does the state need to be selling anything itself in order to collect those?

But... what if they get the taxes AND the profits?

How bizarre. There's be a revolution in the UK if the state tried to monopolise a market like that, and we're comparatively the libbiest libs who ever lived.

And with a surveillance camera every two feet, would that revolution be televised?



No only televised, but also an incredibly polite society.
 
2013-01-26 07:29:19 AM  
Land of the free.....
 
2013-01-26 07:30:32 AM  

Rufus Lee King: Uchiha_Cycliste: I sometimes wear a ball cap sideways when I need the bill aimed towards the sun to ensure my eyes remain shaded... is that ok?

Why, sure.

As long as you remember to turn it inside-out for maximum rebellious effect.

Just kiddin'. Interesting profile, BTW. More power to ya, I guess.


thanks! I think, I really do need to update it, my teabagger rant is from back in the day when they were rapidly gaining power and seemed like they could really pose a threat. Granted, they have sure been hurtful with regards to how much obstruction we've seen since Obama was elected. But I need to either update it and add some nuance (and fix all the spelling and grammar mistakes) or replace it with a more general and all encompassing GOP rant , since they have become the party of super-hero villainy. It was one hell of a drunken rant though =D. Also it has links to where the PAlin/taco thing started, I'm ever so proud of that meme.
 
2013-01-26 07:31:31 AM  

david_gaithersburg: Bucky Katt: Haven't laws like this been ruled unconstitutional already.

.
Massachusetts is a Constitution Free Zone, just like D.C..


Ahhh,the sociopath is up early today. See, this is why it sounds like there are more Republicans than there actually are: insane people have lots of time on their hands due to being unemployable, and lots of energy because of their multiple mental issues.
 
2013-01-26 07:34:00 AM  
also remove the ra-ra-raw Ghost chronicles, since that farker is gone =(
 
2013-01-26 07:36:52 AM  

Bungles: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.


I thought the world had invented a thing called taxes? Why does the state need to be selling anything itself in order to collect those?

But... what if they get the taxes AND the profits?

How bizarre. There's be a revolution in the UK if the state tried to monopolise a market like that, and we're comparatively the libbiest libs who ever lived.


which is more important being the libbiest libs that ever libbed or the drunkenest drunks that ever drunk? =P
 
2013-01-26 07:38:08 AM  
Stupid people need stupid laws. Makes sense to me.
 
2013-01-26 07:39:38 AM  

Bungles: robohobo: Bungles: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.


I thought the world had invented a thing called taxes? Why does the state need to be selling anything itself in order to collect those?

But... what if they get the taxes AND the profits?

How bizarre. There's be a revolution in the UK if the state tried to monopolise a market like that, and we're comparatively the libbiest libs who ever lived.

And with a surveillance camera every two feet, would that revolution be televised?


No only televised, but also an incredibly polite society.


Including chavs?
 
2013-01-26 07:44:15 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: enry: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.

No state run stores in MA. You have to buy beer/wine/booze in a liquor store except in certain circunstances that I haven't quite figured out. If you go just north of our border to NH, the state sells you wine and booze but you can buy beer in the grocery store.

PA has state run stores, right?


I believe so. And you can only buy beer by the case if I remember correctly.
 
2013-01-26 07:47:48 AM  

enry: Uchiha_Cycliste: enry: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.

No state run stores in MA. You have to buy beer/wine/booze in a liquor store except in certain circunstances that I haven't quite figured out. If you go just north of our border to NH, the state sells you wine and booze but you can buy beer in the grocery store.

PA has state run stores, right?

I believe so. And you can only buy beer by the case if I remember correctly.


damn, according to wiki there is a lot more than I thought:
Alabama (Liquor stores are state-run or on-premise establishments with a special off-premise license.)[3]
Idaho (Maintains a monopoly over sales of beverages with greater than 16% ABV.)
Iowa (Does not operate retail outlets. Passed a bill in March 2010, allowing high-proof beer to be privately distributed.)[4]
Maine (State-contracted to private businesses for commission)
Maryland (Under state law the counties of Montgomery, Somerset, Wicomico and Worcester are county alcohol controlled which mandates that off-premise liquor sales are to be conducted only at county owned and operated dispensaries/stores. One exception exists in Montgomery County, four grocery stores had their licenses grandfathered prior to the change of the law.[5] Until recently Dorchester County was an alcohol control county until the County Council voted to permanently shutter the county owned liquor dispensaries.)
Michigan (Does not operate retail outlets; maintains a monopoly over wholesaling of distilled spirits only.)
Mississippi (State-contracted liquor stores)
Montana (State-contracted liquor stores, modeled after the Alberta Gaming and Liquor Commission)[6]
New Hampshire (Beer and wine can be sold at supermarkets & convenience stores; spirits and liqueurs are sold only in state-run liquor stores.)
North Carolina (Beer and wine can be sold in supermarkets and convenience stores; other spirits must be sold in liquor stores owned by local ABC boards. The State ABC Commission controls wholesale distribution and oversees local ABC boards.)
Ohio (Appoints businesses to sell liquor, as agents of the state, for a commission; these stores have a monopoly on sales of beverages with an alcohol content equal to or greater than 21.5% ABV [43 proof]. Beer, wine, mixed alcoholic beverages, and "low proof" alcohol are sold by the aforementioned contract liquor agencies as well as by businesses [bars, restaurants, convenience stores, and gasoline/convenience store retailers] which have been issued an annual permit to sell. Privileges [such as sale for carryout only or for consumption on the premises] and hours during which sales are allowed are dependent on the terms of the permit.)
Oregon (Beer and wine can be sold in supermarkets and convenience stores; other spirits must be sold in liquor stores operated and managed by state-appointed liquor agents who act as independent contractors under the supervision of the OLCC.)
Pennsylvania (All liquor stores [wine and spirits] are run by the state. Recently, there have been state-run retail outlets in the form of automated kiosks, opened inside some supermarkets; currently, 19 supermarkets have this.[7] Malt beverages are sold in case lots by distributors and in smaller quantities by on-premise establishments.)
Utah (all beverages over 3.2% ABW [4.0% ABV] are sold in state-run stores, Utah code 5(a)(i))[8]
Vermont (Liquor stores are state-contracted and licensed)
Virginia (Beer and wine ≤14% ABV sold at supermarkets and convenience stores; all liquor stores are run by the state)
West Virginia (Does not operate retail outlets; maintains a monopoly over wholesaling of distilled spirits only.)
Wyoming (Does not operate retail outlets)
 
2013-01-26 07:48:08 AM  

publikenemy: Hahahha they just had to use a black cop in the video..I've seen plenty of white kids with the Chinese disease too.....dragon ass
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Haha I never heard that before and I'm using that phrase now
 
2013-01-26 07:49:51 AM  

Girion47: Deacon Blue: fusillade762: Does wearing baggy pants really reach the level of "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior"?

It does when half your ass crack is showing.  I can't think of any thing more openly gross and lewd than the ass crack of a teenaged boy.

What about that of an overweight middle-aged man? I hate when their belly forms its own kind of blob like entity and leaks down over their belt, sometimes hanging out the bottom of the shirt like this pale gelatinous beast.


I concur, fat people with little clothes is way worse.
 
2013-01-26 07:53:26 AM  

gothelder: If this stands, then how are gay males supposed to signal to the world at large that they are available to be pegged?

Seems rather unfair to me.


Pegged means getting it up the butt from a female with a strap-on, which homosexual males would find just as or less appealing as you boning a man with a Fleshlight gripped between his thighs.
 
2013-01-26 07:57:29 AM  
Of course this is a good law. Those idiot black kids look like even more of retards than they already are when they wear their pants like that. They should get fined for looking like idiots in public.
 
2013-01-26 07:59:34 AM  

robohobo: Bungles: robohobo: Bungles: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.


I thought the world had invented a thing called taxes? Why does the state need to be selling anything itself in order to collect those?

But... what if they get the taxes AND the profits?

How bizarre. There's be a revolution in the UK if the state tried to monopolise a market like that, and we're comparatively the libbiest libs who ever lived.

And with a surveillance camera every two feet, would that revolution be televised?


No only televised, but also an incredibly polite society.

Including chavs?


Chavs we blame on imported American television. And Burberry.

/poor old Burberry. Their ancient high end brand got totally destroyed by becoming popular with just the wrong people. Much like Cristal.
 
2013-01-26 08:00:00 AM  
Bungles: How bizarre. There's be a revolution in the UK if the state tried to monopolise a market like that, and we're comparatively the libbiest libs who ever lived.

Just wait until you hear how insurance is micromanaged and regulated on a state by state basis in the USA. 50 differences without a distinctions, 50 regulatory fiefdoms, 50 oasis of non-competition. Result? US Insurance (car, life, home, etc) rates are ridiculously higher in the USA. Compare with: "nanny state" UK, where you can buy car insurance at tesco along with a few bottles of tesco value whiskey.
 
2013-01-26 08:00:20 AM  

Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign


Every state is different in their laws. My home state of Michigan you can buy liquor and beer at grocery stores. Some of the more restrictive states are due to how they deal with licenses on selling alcohol, I believe.

As for the why and "big up , liberty", well you have to remember that our country was founded by people with very diverse ways of thinking. Liberty, no taxes, and religious freedom was also coupled with slavery, tariffs, and religious fanaticism.

We've got all types in the U S of A.
 
2013-01-26 08:07:05 AM  

Bomb Head Mohammed: Bungles: How bizarre. There's be a revolution in the UK if the state tried to monopolise a market like that, and we're comparatively the libbiest libs who ever lived.

Just wait until you hear how insurance is micromanaged and regulated on a state by state basis in the USA. 50 differences without a distinctions, 50 regulatory fiefdoms, 50 oasis of non-competition. Result? US Insurance (car, life, home, etc) rates are ridiculously higher in the USA. Compare with: "nanny state" UK, where you can buy car insurance at tesco along with a few bottles of tesco value whiskey.


I'm aware that UK private medical insurance is something like a 1/4th of the price compared to the typical equivalent US deal (and that's not even mentioning the whole tied-to-employment weirdness they have), and yes, you can casually pick it up in Tesco for the price of a good wine (and also buy the wine).

Imagine that, low prices when they have to compete with a generally well-regarded free-at-point-of-use service! It's as if competition is a good thing!
 
2013-01-26 08:12:01 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Rufus Lee King: Uchiha_Cycliste: I sometimes wear a ball cap sideways when I need the bill aimed towards the sun to ensure my eyes remain shaded... is that ok?

Why, sure.

As long as you remember to turn it inside-out for maximum rebellious effect.

Just kiddin'. Interesting profile, BTW. More power to ya, I guess.

thanks! I think, I really do need to update it, my teabagger rant is from back in the day when they were rapidly gaining power and seemed like they could really pose a threat. Granted, they have sure been hurtful with regards to how much obstruction we've seen since Obama was elected. But I need to either update it and add some nuance (and fix all the spelling and grammar mistakes) or replace it with a more general and all encompassing GOP rant , since they have become the party of super-hero villainy. It was one hell of a drunken rant though =D. Also it has links to where the PAlin/taco thing started, I'm ever so proud of that meme.


Yet this story comes to us from Massachusetts, one of the most liberal places in the entire country.
 
2013-01-26 08:12:17 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.


I work at a Kroger in Indiana that sells beer, wine, and liquor, with the best prices in town. We can't sell cold beer though, only liquor stores can do that. We can't sell cold wine either, which can be sold at gas stations and liquor stores, but not grocery stores. Gas stations can sell cold wine but only warm beer, and no liquor. It's all very nonsensical and arbitrary.
 
2013-01-26 08:12:52 AM  

robohobo: [0.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com image 600x811] [cdn-www.i-am-bored.com image 447x525]


Why even wear pants at that point? It's just stupid
 
2013-01-26 08:15:12 AM  

Jumpin Jbot: Every state is different in their laws. My home state of Michigan you can buy liquor and beer at grocery stores. Some of the more restrictive states are due to how they deal with licenses on selling alcohol, I believe.


This.  The rules are all over the place in the states.  In NH it's beer & wine anywhere, but liquor is in state-run NH Liquor Stores.  In Mass., you actually CAN sell beer & wine in any location, so long as you only own 5 places that do so (which means most of the chain stores don't have it, or the smaller chain that has 3 out of its 7 locations do).  At least it's not farking Pennsylvania - beer is only sold in "beverage outlets" completely separate from everything else.
 
2013-01-26 08:15:43 AM  

ransack.: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.

I work at a Kroger in Indiana that sells beer, wine, and liquor, with the best prices in town. We can't sell cold beer though, only liquor stores can do that. We can't sell cold wine either, which can be sold at gas stations and liquor stores, but not grocery stores. Gas stations can sell cold wine but only warm beer, and no liquor. It's all very nonsensical and arbitrary.


Sorry, I should have mentioned that Kroger is the largest grocery retailer in America, since you're foreign.
 
2013-01-26 08:18:48 AM  

ransack.: ransack.: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.

I work at a Kroger in Indiana that sells beer, wine, and liquor, with the best prices in town. We can't sell cold beer though, only liquor stores can do that. We can't sell cold wine either, which can be sold at gas stations and liquor stores, but not grocery stores. Gas stations can sell cold wine but only warm beer, and no liquor. It's all very nonsensical and arbitrary.

Sorry, I should have mentioned that Kroger is the largest grocery retailer in America, since you're foreign.


I think you meant to message Bungles... I'm in CA, we got it all =D
 
2013-01-26 08:21:53 AM  

ransack.: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.

I work at a Kroger in Indiana that sells beer, wine, and liquor, with the best prices in town. We can't sell cold beer though, only liquor stores can do that. We can't sell cold wine either, which can be sold at gas stations and liquor stores, but not grocery stores. Gas stations can sell cold wine but only warm beer, and no liquor. It's all very nonsensical and arbitrary.


Given the enormous size and power of the booze industry, it surprises me that they haven't forced this to be all straightened out and harmonised years ago. I can't see any advantage to those companies that customers have to jump through random hoops.

I remember 20 or so years ago drink sold in the UK had to be in a "separate" area in supermarkets (ie usually one of those cosy faux winecellars, leading off from the main supermarket). Everyone thought that was insanely inconvenient, and it only added an extra 15 seconds onto your shop.

Luckily it was all done away with, with the only remain regulation is that non-supermarkets and grocery stores that sell alcohol (like gas stations), can't do so after 11pm, to stop gatherings of drunks outside in suburban areas. They can still go to the 24 hour supermarket though.
 
2013-01-26 08:23:27 AM  

david_gaithersburg: Bucky Katt: Haven't laws like this been ruled unconstitutional already.

.
Massachusetts is a Constitution Free Zone, just like D.C..


You beat me to it...
 
2013-01-26 08:24:42 AM  
I like it when I can see a woman's panties sticking out of the back of her pants a little.

I hope they don't make that illegal.
 
2013-01-26 08:24:46 AM  

Girion47: Deacon Blue: fusillade762: Does wearing baggy pants really reach the level of "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior"?

It does when half your ass crack is showing.  I can't think of any thing more openly gross and lewd than the ass crack of a teenaged boy.

What about that of an overweight middle-aged man? I hate when their belly forms its own kind of blob like entity and leaks down over their belt, sometimes hanging out the bottom of the shirt like this pale gelatinous beast.


That's called a dunlap, just so you know.

/cuz their gut done lapped over their belt
 
2013-01-26 08:25:56 AM  

JudgeMuttonChops: /oblig
// for shame, Fark


"Two whaaat?"
 
2013-01-26 08:26:30 AM  

Bungles: ransack.: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.

I work at a Kroger in Indiana that sells beer, wine, and liquor, with the best prices in town. We can't sell cold beer though, only liquor stores can do that. We can't sell cold wine either, which can be sold at gas stations and liquor stores, but not grocery stores. Gas stations can sell cold wine but only warm beer, and no liquor. It's all very nonsensical and arbitrary.

Given the enormous size and power of the booze industry, it surprises me that they haven't forced this to be all straightened out and harmonised years ago. I can't see any advantage to those companies that customers have to jump through random hoops.


It's the government that controls all this. When have they ever been helpful?
 
2013-01-26 09:12:10 AM  

robohobo: Bungles: ransack.: Uchiha_Cycliste: Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign

Well you see, sometimes the state decides it wants to bend you over so you can take it up the ass monetarily and forces you to buy alcohol in state run liquor stores. Grocery stores can't sell that stuff because the state wants the money instead.

I work at a Kroger in Indiana that sells beer, wine, and liquor, with the best prices in town. We can't sell cold beer though, only liquor stores can do that. We can't sell cold wine either, which can be sold at gas stations and liquor stores, but not grocery stores. Gas stations can sell cold wine but only warm beer, and no liquor. It's all very nonsensical and arbitrary.

Given the enormous size and power of the booze industry, it surprises me that they haven't forced this to be all straightened out and harmonised years ago. I can't see any advantage to those companies that customers have to jump through random hoops.


It's the government that controls all this. When have they ever been helpful?


The military? Outside the US, hospitals, emergency response, roads, the police, etc etc...
 
2013-01-26 09:29:03 AM  

JudgeMuttonChops: [www.bluegraysky.com image 429x458]
/oblig
// for shame, Fark




Came for this.
 
2013-01-26 09:38:03 AM  
From giant afros with picks stuck in them, to caps somehow attached to the side of the head, to the pants around the ankles. I will never understand black fashion trends.
 
2013-01-26 09:42:15 AM  

Old enough to know better: Guess i'm a fascist too. I have a hard time getting upset about this.

Honestly, its been a 'fashion' since the 90's. Can't you punks come up with something else?


They don't need to, because obviously it still pisses people off.
 
2013-01-26 09:51:13 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: This type of law is how racists continue to subvert the African American populations in America. You'll never hear a racist use the n-word. You'll never see a racist dressed in a KKK robes. You'll never be shut out of a restaurant run by racists. It's not how they work anymore.

Now they pick cultural aspects and vilify those. "Tough on crime", "anti-baggy pants legislation", "3 strikes and you're out", "welfare queens", and "urban culture" are all code words that racists use to target the black race without either using the word 'black' or specifying blacks in particular. They hone in on behaviors that society at large feels negatively towards and use that to create a system of laws that keeps blacks under the thumb of white society.


But Massachusetts is a liberal city. Only conservatives can be racist. Fark tells me so.
 
2013-01-26 10:06:20 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: SpdrJay: I heard Wisconsin is making skinny jeans a death penalty offense.

Listen, I would never wear them myself, but I can totally understand why a cyclist who doesn't wear bike clothes would like skinny jeans. Can you at least give a pass for folks who are trying to keep their pants out of their drive-train? Isn't that better than having them wear normal jeans, but drive a car? Those skinny jeans are making your commute shorter.


How about you put a chain guard on your bike, or buy one of those pant straps that Brooks makes that keep your pant leg out of the chain? There is no excuse for skinny jeans.
 
2013-01-26 10:06:44 AM  
and whats funny about the "saggy pants" thing is it actually started in a Texas state prison as a method for the homosexuals to advertise they were "open for business"....thus further proving that people will do just about any damn thing that their favorite whatever does. no matter how retarded it is...hey massachusetts, can you send a copy of that law to my governor here in FL and tell him we need this? I dont typically watch porn, but i'm sick of seeing disgusting black ass every goddamn day i walk outside.
 
2013-01-26 10:13:45 AM  
A similar law was passed in Jackson MS, by an all black city council
 
2013-01-26 10:24:28 AM  

shakespear: A similar law was passed in Jackson MS, by an all black city council


i'm impressed. if we could get that mindset to propagate, we might have something here. i just cannot understand for the life of me why an individual would wear clothing in such a manner. it serves no purpose whatsoever, its bad hygiene, and i'm just so tired of seeing dude's asses. and what troubles me is that there really isn't much chatter about this that i've seen recently, but yet, i've heard much exposure regarding things such as banning public breastfeeding which is natural, and somewhat necessary and downright beautiful :)
 
2013-01-26 10:26:09 AM  

shakespear: A similar law was passed in Jackson MS, by an all black city council


Jackson, MS also has the city councilman who told AMR that it was their job to send untrained, unarmed providers into firefights with criminals, and if they got shot, too bad, it was part of their job.
 
2013-01-26 10:37:41 AM  

dgriffith2: shakespear: A similar law was passed in Jackson MS, by an all black city council

i'm impressed. if we could get that mindset to propagate, we might have something here. i just cannot understand for the life of me why an individual would wear clothing in such a manner. it serves no purpose whatsoever, its bad hygiene, and i'm just so tired of seeing dude's asses. and what troubles me is that there really isn't much chatter about this that i've seen recently, but yet, i've heard much exposure regarding things such as banning public breastfeeding which is natural, and somewhat necessary and downright beautiful :)


Unless they're not wearing underwear, it's less revealing than the average cyclist.

Kids wear daft fashions. This has been the case since forever. As for serving no purpose... men still inexplicably wear ties.
 
2013-01-26 10:40:09 AM  
content.internetvideoarchive.com
 
2013-01-26 10:42:20 AM  

Bungles: enry: BronyMedic: lajimi: [i236.photobucket.com image 200x309]

I didn't know beat cops drafted legislation. To think I've been voting for representatives and senators who do that!

Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Wait, you can't sell wine and beer in grocery stores? I thought the US was all "big up, liberty". I'd put "being able to buy a normal, legal product easily" above "can carry a gun and pretend to be a cowboy" on the liberty stakes.

/foreign


It varies state to state. Here in Washington state, we just legalized buying liquor last year. Prior to that you had to buy it from a state liquor store during the hours they were open. Beer and wine seems a little extreme, but in some states it varies county to county with many "dry" counties.

LAND OF THE FREE!
 
2013-01-26 10:49:53 AM  

Bungles: dgriffith2: shakespear: A similar law was passed in Jackson MS, by an all black city council

i'm impressed. if we could get that mindset to propagate, we might have something here. i just cannot understand for the life of me why an individual would wear clothing in such a manner. it serves no purpose whatsoever, its bad hygiene, and i'm just so tired of seeing dude's asses. and what troubles me is that there really isn't much chatter about this that i've seen recently, but yet, i've heard much exposure regarding things such as banning public breastfeeding which is natural, and somewhat necessary and downright beautiful :)

Unless they're not wearing underwear, it's less revealing than the average cyclist.

Kids wear daft fashions. This has been the case since forever. As for serving no purpose... men still inexplicably wear ties.


yes, the children do tend to lend themselves to the latest trends (rhyme much? lol) and notoriously, as the upper echelons of society become more vehement against something they do, the tendency is to rebel. it is our nature to be at war with one another. so to resist it, truly, as the borg say....is futile. and cyclic. and furthermore, i served for 5 years in this nations Army. i took an oath when i shipped to uphold and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic. And the laws were written in our newly birthed country the way they were due to british tyranny stemming from, among other things, lack of religious freedom and threat of subjugation. So, though i don't like it AT ALL..i will defend a man's (or woman's) right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of their happiness so long as it doesn't violate basic human tenets. Murder, rape and so forth
 
2013-01-26 10:56:17 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: This type of law is how racists continue to subvert the African American populations in America. You'll never hear a racist use the n-word. You'll never see a racist dressed in a KKK robes. You'll never be shut out of a restaurant run by racists. It's not how they work anymore.

Now they pick cultural aspects and vilify those. "Tough on crime", "anti-baggy pants legislation", "3 strikes and you're out", "welfare queens", and "urban culture" are all code words that racists use to target the black race without either using the word 'black' or specifying blacks in particular. They hone in on behaviors that society at large feels negatively towards and use that to create a system of laws that keeps blacks under the thumb of white society.


I was at a job the other day. Set up a PC, and the person I set it up for wanted to adjust a few things so that he could use the eq easier. So, he said he would Obamarig it. I really shouldn't be surprised that there are folks that will use Obama's name in place of the N-word so they can get around the whole, 'I'm not a racist' bullshiat
 
2013-01-26 10:59:28 AM  

Girion47: Smgth: There's a specifically black mental health association? Black ppl go crazy in different ways then others? Seems kinda....racist.

If biologically, they are more susceptible to a disease, it doesn't make it racist. Degradation of protein isn't some malicious slight against someone because of skin color, it's just genetic.


If criminology-ly they are more prone to committing violent crime, it doesn't make it racist?
/semi-troll, kinda.
 
2013-01-26 11:04:04 AM  
People have a right to make an idiot out of themselves without being harassed.

Besides, this is a great signal provided by nature that you should best avoid this thing, just like bright colors on a frog.
 
2013-01-26 11:15:11 AM  

BronyMedic: shakespear: A similar law was passed in Jackson MS, by an all black city council

Jackson, MS also has the city councilman who told AMR that it was their job to send untrained, unarmed providers into firefights with criminals, and if they got shot, too bad, it was part of their job.


Amazing. First I'd heard of that, I'll have to look that look up.
 
2013-01-26 11:22:16 AM  

Medic Zero: Amazing. First I'd heard of that, I'll have to look that look up.


Ask and you shall receive. His name is Councilman Kenneth Stokes, and he is a fountain of DERP. He told AMR their policy of waiting until the scene was secured by PD was cowardice  and that their job description was to get shot in the line of duty helping others if they were called upon to do so. He also threatened them that if they weren't willing to do it, he'd find a private service for the city that would.

His comments caused international outrage. EMS doesn't like being told their job is to waste their lives and serve as targets for shooters.
 
2013-01-26 11:39:20 AM  
SUBS to the rescue!

i651.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-26 11:45:35 AM  
aboutcolonblank.com
 
2013-01-26 12:15:23 PM  
The liberalism of Massachusetts is often overstated in the minds of the rest of the country.
 
2013-01-26 12:31:19 PM  

Enemabag Jones: People have a right to make an idiot out of themselves without being harassed. and the rest of the world has a right to refuse service, verbally ridicule, and torment.

Besides, this is a great signal provided by nature that you should best avoid this thing, just like bright colors on a frog.


If they have the right to show their butt cheeks, I have a right to laugh at them.
 
2013-01-26 12:44:08 PM  
Snopes says no to the "open for business" theory.

http://www.snopes.com/risque/homosex/sagging.asp

Saggy pant are the new 80's legwarmers.
 
2013-01-26 12:45:27 PM  

People_are_Idiots: If they have the right to show their butt cheeks, I have a right to laugh at them.


if the cops really wanted to fix the problem they would have a rule that you could avoid the saggy pants fine if you manage to run away from the cops for a few minutes. Watching the local youth trying to run and falling down would be worth it, and they could sell the videos online to fundraise for various charitable causes.
 
2013-01-26 01:09:51 PM  
People_are_Idiots
If they have the right to show their butt cheeks, I have a right to laugh at them.


This is not a law enforcement issue, but I don't disagree with your point.

Still, go back to that statement I made about bright colored frogs.
 
2013-01-26 01:10:19 PM  
For a country that usually leads the way in "convenience", your situation on alcohol is very odd indeed.
 
2013-01-26 01:13:06 PM  

BronyMedic: enry: Cops around here get some extra kinds of leeway. A few years ago we had a ballot question to allow beer and wine sales in grocery stores. It was under the radar and looked like it was going to pass until the staties and sheriffs came out against the measure. It died a horrible death.

Ah. You're talking about the dreaded Police Union. You might be interested to know that the IAFF outspends all of them.


I'm not sure I know what you mean. Most cops in my area are affiliated with AFSCME, which is number 2 on your list. The IAFF is number 41. But hey, don't let me stop you from taking yet another irrelevant cheap shot at the IAFF.
 
2013-01-26 01:28:52 PM  

manimal2878: Uchiha_Cycliste: SpdrJay: I heard Wisconsin is making skinny jeans a death penalty offense.

Listen, I would never wear them myself, but I can totally understand why a cyclist who doesn't wear bike clothes would like skinny jeans. Can you at least give a pass for folks who are trying to keep their pants out of their drive-train? Isn't that better than having them wear normal jeans, but drive a car? Those skinny jeans are making your commute shorter.

How about you put a chain guard on your bike, or buy one of those pant straps that Brooks makes that keep your pant leg out of the chain? There is no excuse for skinny jeans.


Again not *my* problem. I'm not saying I'd do it, but I understand.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-01-26 02:12:46 PM  

PunGent: or we shall send thee packing to the wilds of Rhode Island.


On the road to Rhode Island? The hell you say.

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-26 02:23:54 PM  

ransack.: gothelder: If this stands, then how are gay males supposed to signal to the world at large that they are available to be pegged?

Seems rather unfair to me.

Pegged means getting it up the butt from a female with a strap-on, which homosexual males would find just as or less appealing as you boning a man with a Fleshlight gripped between his thighs.


I already googled it.
 
2013-01-26 03:58:46 PM  

fusillade762: Massachusetts law bans "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior" and warns that such behavior can be punished by up to three years in state prison or two years in county jail.

Does wearing baggy pants really reach the level of "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior"?


YES!
 
2013-01-26 04:02:56 PM  

Quaker: So exposing one's boxer shorts by sagging one's pants constitutes "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior", while all the upper middle class white guys here on the Cape can (weather permitting) jog down public roadways wearing only a pair of jogging shorts that are more revealing than any pair of boxers. That sounds perfectly reasonable and not in any way designed as a means to harass people from "undesirable" demographics.


No, that is also unacceptable. Along with any man who wears a 'Speedo' (I do not care how nice his body is), tight bicycle shorts, etc.
 
2013-01-26 04:22:50 PM  

bratface: Quaker: So exposing one's boxer shorts by sagging one's pants constitutes "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior", while all the upper middle class white guys here on the Cape can (weather permitting) jog down public roadways wearing only a pair of jogging shorts that are more revealing than any pair of boxers. That sounds perfectly reasonable and not in any way designed as a means to harass people from "undesirable" demographics.

No, that is also unacceptable. Along with any man who wears a 'Speedo' (I do not care how nice his body is), tight bicycle shorts, etc.


Why do you fear the manflute?
 
2013-01-26 04:57:53 PM  

gilgigamesh: I can't think of anything more sublimely fascistic than laws dictating fashion taste.

Plus, cops probably love the sagging pants thing.  It makes the thugs so much easier to catch.


I agree with a fashion ban, but that doesn't make the sight of some kid's skinny ass hanging out of his pants any less unsightly.
 
2013-01-26 04:58:00 PM  

Bungles: bratface: Quaker: So exposing one's boxer shorts by sagging one's pants constitutes "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior", while all the upper middle class white guys here on the Cape can (weather permitting) jog down public roadways wearing only a pair of jogging shorts that are more revealing than any pair of boxers. That sounds perfectly reasonable and not in any way designed as a means to harass people from "undesirable" demographics.

No, that is also unacceptable. Along with any man who wears a 'Speedo' (I do not care how nice his body is), tight bicycle shorts, etc.

Why do you fear the manflute?


I do not fear it, I just do not want to see it flopping around in public!
 
2013-01-26 04:59:37 PM  

Bungles: And yet the runners and bicyclers are allowed to wear cock-hugging lycra.


Pardon me while I clean that image out of my mind with a lead cleaner @_@
 
2013-01-26 05:04:32 PM  

lizyrd: I'm not sure I know what you mean. Most cops in my area are affiliated with AFSCME, which is number 2 on your list. The IAFF is number 41. But hey, don't let me stop you from taking yet another irrelevant cheap shot at the IAFF.


Uh,  I believe you're mistaken. The IAFF is an independent affiliate of the AFL-CIO, while the IAFF exists only to serve firefighters, the AFL-CIO backs it up on a general political front. It's also supported by the CLC in Canada.

In fact, the AFL-CIO is the parent of over 57 independent unions, many of which are in positions on that list. Adding all of those together for all-time donations gives more combined than AFSCME has ever given.

Local IAFF protects firefighters. National IAFF protects the agenda of it's union, and is the reason our emergency response system in the United States is a joke compared with the UK, Canada, or another first world European nation. It's also the reason EMS hasn't been federalized as a third service like Police and Fire have.
 
2013-01-26 05:08:16 PM  

bratface: Bungles: bratface: Quaker: So exposing one's boxer shorts by sagging one's pants constitutes "open and gross lewd and lascivious behavior", while all the upper middle class white guys here on the Cape can (weather permitting) jog down public roadways wearing only a pair of jogging shorts that are more revealing than any pair of boxers. That sounds perfectly reasonable and not in any way designed as a means to harass people from "undesirable" demographics.

No, that is also unacceptable. Along with any man who wears a 'Speedo' (I do not care how nice his body is), tight bicycle shorts, etc.

Why do you fear the manflute?

I do not fear it, I just do not want to see it flopping around in public!


Seriously. It's not against the law to dress like a slob. So we're no longer a nation of suits and dresses -- but having your entire ass hanging out like that is just unnecessary.

i.imgur.com

"Point and laugh derisively"
 
2013-01-26 06:37:30 PM  

BronyMedic: Medic Zero: Amazing. First I'd heard of that, I'll have to look that look up.

Ask and you shall receive. His name is Councilman Kenneth Stokes, and he is a fountain of DERP. He told AMR their policy of waiting until the scene was secured by PD was cowardice  and that their job description was to get shot in the line of duty helping others if they were called upon to do so. He also threatened them that if they weren't willing to do it, he'd find a private service for the city that would.

His comments caused international outrage. EMS doesn't like being told their job is to waste their lives and serve as targets for shooters.


Yeah, that is contrary to everything we are taught. #1 don't become another patient so they have to send another rig! Good luck to him finding someone that will/can do it cheaper than AMR too!

Thanks for the link, and stay safe!
 
2013-01-26 07:07:47 PM  
i.imgur.com
Better graphics on this one..and that,s why long shirts were made... when there is a market, make it !
 
2013-01-26 10:22:29 PM  

BronyMedic: Uh,  I believe you're mistaken. The IAFF is an independent affiliate of the AFL-CIO, while the IAFF exists only to serve firefighters, the AFL-CIO backs it up on a general political front. It's also supported by the CLC in Canada.

In fact, the AFL-CIO is the parent of over 57 independent unions, many of which are in positions on that list. Adding all of those together for all-time donations gives more combined than AFSCME has ever given.


Oh, so now we're considering all AFL-CIO derived donations as coming from the IAFF? Does it matter that AFSCME is also an affiliate of the AFL-CIO? You said that the IAFF spends more on political contributions than the "police union." Then you linked to a list that puts the IAFF as the 41st largest donor, while AFSCME is the second. I should also point out another "police union," the IBPO, is an arm of NAGE, which is the public-sector side of SEIU...#5 on the list you provided.

The bottom line is that there are 900,000 cops in this country and 250,000 paid firemen. The IAFF doesn't have near the money that the cops do because they don't have near the number of members. I'm sorry that the IAFF is holding your profession back; you're absolutely right, someone should have 4 years of school in order to start a line and have less than 10 minutes of patient contact. I have to hand it to you, I never would have thought an article about pants laws in Massachusetts could result in discussion about IAFF political contribuitions, but here we are.
 
2013-01-26 10:34:57 PM  

Enemabag Jones: People have a right to make an idiot out of themselves without being harassed.

Besides, this is a great signal provided by nature that you should best avoid this thing, just like bright colors on a frog.


An excellent take on the situation.
 
2013-01-26 11:03:08 PM  
You're 18, you don't know shiat about shiat, and pullupyerpants!

i2.ytimg.com
 
2013-01-26 11:30:58 PM  

Smgth: There's a specifically black mental health association? Black ppl go crazy in different ways then others? Seems kinda....racist.


Go watch some world star hip hop and get back to me.
 
2013-01-27 02:47:21 PM  

jdhj2: ransack.: gothelder: If this stands, then how are gay males supposed to signal to the world at large that they are available to be pegged?

Seems rather unfair to me.

Pegged means getting it up the butt from a female with a strap-on, which homosexual males would find just as or less appealing as you boning a man with a Fleshlight gripped between his thighs.

I already googled it.


Ha! Your targeted ads are going to be fun for a while!
 
2013-01-27 02:53:28 PM  

BronyMedic: lizyrd: I'm not sure I know what you mean. Most cops in my area are affiliated with AFSCME, which is number 2 on your list. The IAFF is number 41. But hey, don't let me stop you from taking yet another irrelevant cheap shot at the IAFF.

Uh,  I believe you're mistaken. The IAFF is an independent affiliate of the AFL-CIO, while the IAFF exists only to serve firefighters, the AFL-CIO backs it up on a general political front. It's also supported by the CLC in Canada.

In fact, the AFL-CIO is the parent of over 57 independent unions, many of which are in positions on that list. Adding all of those together for all-time donations gives more combined than AFSCME has ever given.

Local IAFF protects firefighters. National IAFF protects the agenda of it's union, and is the reason our emergency response system in the United States is a joke compared with the UK, Canada, or another first world European nation. It's also the reason EMS hasn't been federalized as a third service like Police and Fire have.


I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter. Never thought to look into it further, here in King County (Seattle) it always appeared to stem from Medical Director Copass' restructuring of our "system" a few decades back. I know things are messed up everywhere, but always thought they way they were messed up locally was unique.
 
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