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(Stabley Times)   When a TV series ends an on unresolved cliffhanger it alienates viewers from new TV shows, gives rise to reality TV era, brings about end of humanity   (stableytimes.com) divider line 155
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2013-01-25 08:13:40 PM  
...realty TV era...

www.americanrealtyworld.com
 
2013-01-25 08:25:54 PM  

phlegmmo: ...realty TV era...

[www.americanrealtyworld.com image 230x208]


Typo aside, the article actually brings up a fair point. I rarely watch premieres anymore, because I don't want to actually LIKE something only to see it gone 5 episodes later. I made the mistake of getting hooked on Awake just this past year by doing just that, even though it was clear by the 3rd episode or so the show wasn't going to make it.

It's way easier just to wait a season (or midway through the first season if the show is a runaway success). Then you don't get the unneeded attachment to failures, and in these internet days it's incredibly easy to catch up on any show.
 
2013-01-25 08:30:28 PM  
Still pissed about "My Name Is Earl" subby?
 
2013-01-25 08:31:46 PM  
So, give Now and Again a decent ending, then.

Problem solved.
 
2013-01-25 08:32:05 PM  

Supes: Typo aside, the article actually brings up a fair point. I rarely watch premieres anymore, because I don't want to actually LIKE something only to see it gone 5 episodes later. I made the mistake of getting hooked on Awake just this past year by doing just that, even though it was clear by the 3rd episode or so the show wasn't going to make it.

It's way easier just to wait a season (or midway through the first season if the show is a runaway success). Then you don't get the unneeded attachment to failures, and in these internet days it's incredibly easy to catch up on any show.


Agreed.
 
2013-01-25 08:34:51 PM  

Supes: phlegmmo: ...realty TV era...

[www.americanrealtyworld.com image 230x208]

Typo aside, the article actually brings up a fair point. I rarely watch premieres anymore, because I don't want to actually LIKE something only to see it gone 5 episodes later. I made the mistake of getting hooked on Awake just this past year by doing just that, even though it was clear by the 3rd episode or so the show wasn't going to make it.

It's way easier just to wait a season (or midway through the first season if the show is a runaway success). Then you don't get the unneeded attachment to failures, and in these internet days it's incredibly easy to catch up on any show.


THIS.  I didn't even bother watching the last few episodes of "Last Resort" once they announced the cancellation.  What's the point?
 
2013-01-25 08:40:20 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Still pissed about "My Name Is Earl" subby?


who's not?
 
2013-01-25 08:55:20 PM  
www.technologytell.com
 
2013-01-25 08:56:00 PM  
I just recently watched "Twin Peaks" on Netflix (so I'm 23 years behind). The lack of a resolution annoyed me but the rest if the show made up for it. Even though Enterprise didn't have a cliffhanger per se, it was just starting to get good when it got canned and I wish it got its 7 seasons like the others (except TOS). I never expected "V" or "The Sarah Connor Chronicles" to last long enough to have a resolution so it didn't bother me.

Of course "Lost" is what happens when a show does reach a resolution so you never know.
 
2013-01-25 08:56:20 PM  
On before an except after ends.
 
2013-01-25 08:56:56 PM  

Supes: Typo aside, the article actually brings up a fair point. I rarely watch premieres anymore, because I don't want to actually LIKE something only to see it gone 5 episodes later. I made the mistake of getting hooked on Awake just this past year by doing just that, even though it was clear by the 3rd episode or so the show wasn't going to make it.

It's way easier just to wait a season (or midway through the first season if the show is a runaway success). Then you don't get the unneeded attachment to failures, and in these internet days it's incredibly easy to catch up on any show.



I do one better: I wait until an entire TV show is finished (to high acclaim) and then grab the box set and watch it all at once... usually one season at a time in marathon weekend sessions. It makes following along the serial format easier and without the aggravation of having to wait a week to find out what happens next. Recently did that with 6 seasons of Dr. Who (up until the end of Rose Tyler). Plan on doing that for Heroes and The Wire next (I'm a little behind).
 
2013-01-25 09:07:00 PM  

Ishkur: Plan on doing that for Heroes and The Wire next (I'm a little behind).



I wouldn't recommend that for Heroes.

Seriously, don't bother.
 
2013-01-25 09:08:10 PM  
i1125.photobucket.com

/Two seasons of awesome, and then the bad guys reams everyone and exits stage left, smiling.
//CAWKSUCKER!!!
///And don't even get me started on Firefly.
////But, I don't know what to say about that show that hasn't already been said.
 
2013-01-25 09:17:42 PM  
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2013-01-25 09:19:58 PM  

ArkAngel: [asycophantic.files.wordpress.com image 625x313]


That was smart. Way to paint themselves into a corner if they ever wanted to do a movie. Not that they did but still.
 
2013-01-25 09:43:38 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: It's way easier just to wait a season (or midway through the first season if the show is a runaway success). Then you don't get the unneeded attachment to failures, and in these internet days it's incredibly easy to catch up on any show.

THIS.  I didn't even bother watching the last few episodes of "Last Resort" once they announced the cancellation.  What's the point?


Actually "Last Resort" did get a proper ending, of sorts.

Creators Shawn Ryan and Karl Gajdusek got the call of doom from ABC after writing the episode as though it was just Episode 13 and not the series finale. So the pair got out their erasers and rewrote large chunks of the episode to turn it into the final installment of Last Resort. It's totally shiatty that that had to happen, but given the unforgiving circumstances they faced, I'd say Ryan and Gajdusek did a bang-up job. If nothing else, no one can say "Controlled Flight Into Terrain" was boring.

WARNING: Article contains spoilers.
 
2013-01-25 09:59:50 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Still pissed about "My Name Is Earl" subby?


Screw subby, I'm still pissed about United States of Tara.
 
2013-01-25 10:03:01 PM  
Millenium
Brimstone
Awake
Alphas
Dresden Files


Why do I keep getting hooked?
 
2013-01-25 10:14:36 PM  
So, maybe have everything end like Seinfeld?

Not every show can have a "Goodbye, Farewell and Amen..."
 
2013-01-25 10:15:47 PM  

NuttierThanEver: Awake


I'm not sure they even had anything in mind for Awake.
 
2013-01-25 10:19:36 PM  

Summer Glau's Love Slave: /Two seasons of awesome, and then the bad guys reams everyone and exits stage left, smiling.
//CAWKSUCKER!!!
///And don't even get me started on Firefly.
////But, I don't know what to say about that show that hasn't already been said.


Fark HBO

/"holy cow! Sofie is the Omeg...cancelled"
 
2013-01-25 10:21:21 PM  

sno man: Screw subby, I'm still pissed about United States of Tara.


The curse of Eddie Izzard.  I'm pissed about that and super pissed about The Riches, which should have run for multiple seasons.
 
2013-01-25 10:22:17 PM  

Mugato: I'm not sure they even had anything in mind for Awake.


I think they had a premise, and that's about it.
 
2013-01-25 10:26:10 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Mugato: I'm not sure they even had anything in mind for Awake.

I think they had a premise, and that's about it.


Sort of like Lost. But Alcatraz didn't even seem to have a premise.
 
2013-01-25 10:27:44 PM  
I'm still angry about Alien Nation.
 
2013-01-25 10:30:09 PM  

serpent_sky: sno man: Screw subby, I'm still pissed about United States of Tara.

The curse of Eddie Izzard.  I'm pissed about that and super pissed about The Riches, which should have run for multiple seasons.


That Munsters re-do falls into that Eddy Izzard curse too...
 
2013-01-25 10:35:41 PM  

Mugato: Sort of like Lost. But Alcatraz didn't even seem to have a premise.


Lost tried to juggle more than it could keep in the air.

Alcatraz had... well... Alcatraz, I guess.
 
2013-01-25 10:37:30 PM  

sno man: That Munsters re-do falls into that Eddy Izzard curse too...


I never saw it... I didn't even know it actually aired.  I'm not 100% sure that counts, since it didn't seem to have the following United States of Tara and The Riches had.
 
2013-01-25 10:38:33 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Mugato: I'm not sure they even had anything in mind for Awake.

I think they had a premise, and that's about it.


Yeah but his performance was just awesome.
Would love if the US shows could be written more like good UK ones with a definete story arc and ending in mind from the get go
 
2013-01-25 10:38:40 PM  

Ishkur: Plan on doing that for Heroes


Honestly just watch season 1. It does end on a semi-cliffhanger, yes, but season 2 sucked so hard it's better to just create whatever ending you want in your head.
 
2013-01-25 10:40:28 PM  
"So tell me, ABC, CBS, NBC, and yes, you too, Fox do you really want that on your conscious?"


*rapid left eye twitch*
 
2013-01-25 10:44:46 PM  

NuttierThanEver: Yeah but his performance was just awesome.


Oh, Jason Isaacs is boss. Really dug his work in The Patriot.


NuttierThanEver: Would love if the US shows could be written more like good UK ones with a definete story arc and ending in mind from the get go


I hear ya on that, aye.

Incidentally, one of my favorite series is a BBC show that ended on a FRUSTRATING cliffhanger: 2008's Survivors.
 
2013-01-25 10:46:28 PM  

serpent_sky: sno man: That Munsters re-do falls into that Eddy Izzard curse too...

I never saw it... I didn't even know it actually aired.  I'm not 100% sure that counts, since it didn't seem to have the following United States of Tara and The Riches had.


I think it (the pilot) aired around Halloween, I saw it online, it wasn't all that bad, but it was not Munsters even a little.
 
2013-01-25 10:46:30 PM  
Well, the way they make shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that show to the people who make shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they're going to make more shows. Some pilots get picked and become television programs.
Addendum-- Some of the picked shows find a following and develop into a series where the general viewing population becomes invested in the completion of the serial. Others don't. The blogger is pissed about the ones that don't.
 
2013-01-25 10:46:43 PM  

NuttierThanEver: Millenium
Brimstone
Awake
Alphas
Dresden Files


Why do I keep getting hooked?


I've only heard of one of those, and then from the books.

Moral of the story: TV execs are the worst people in the world to run a TV station for product quality. They're there to turn dimes, not change lives.

Artists, on the other hand, are usually the worst people in the world to make money. They can produce good product, but their ability to stay on budget is often low. Take, for example, Terry Gilliam.
 
2013-01-25 10:46:50 PM  

NuttierThanEver: Would love if the US shows could be written more like good UK ones with a definete story arc and ending in mind from the get go


The problem with that is that if a show still has the ratings and they can still afford the cast, they'll go on long after their logical conclusion. Supernatural for example, should have ended after they prevented Armageddon and stopped Lucifer and Michael. But since they still have the numbers and it's almost impossible for a show on the CW to get canceled, it'll go on forever.

You Brits should talk. Dr. Who's been on for like 50 years. At least the 3 Star Trek shows that made it to 7 years quit while they were somewhat on top.
 
2013-01-25 10:51:36 PM  

Mugato: The problem with that is that if a show still has the ratings and they can still afford the cast, they'll go on long after their logical conclusion.


You just described Prison Break in a nutshell. Show was designed to be a mini-series that lasted 13(?) episodes. It was so popular they extended the mini-series to a full season, then three more seasons following.
 
2013-01-25 11:17:07 PM  
Farscape.

OK, so we had a tv movie, but still...
 
2013-01-25 11:39:43 PM  
www.wikinoticia.com

Does not approve
 
2013-01-26 12:30:45 AM  
Yeah yeah yeah, I wanted to know what happened to Alf too, but I got over it 20 years ago. (And no, I don't consider Project ALF to be canon).
 
2013-01-26 12:49:17 AM  
Don't get me started on Carnivale.
 
2013-01-26 01:19:29 AM  
I'm still pissed about Duckman ending on a cliffhanger.

I'm also pissed off about Sliders. Not just how Siffy ended it on a cliffhanger, but how they and Fox ruined the show by putting hacks in charge and by being scared of anything but movie of the week world.
 
2013-01-26 01:19:54 AM  

TheXerox: Farscape.

OK, so we had a tv movie, but still...


FFS
be fair, after the end of season 4, you wanted to kill yourself for them canceling the show.
the tv movie was an EPIC conclusion and avoided having season 5 filled with tons of filler episodes.

I have basically stopped watching new series until they have been canceled. I am DONE with getting screwed. Sarah Connor Chronicles anyone?

Just rewatched Firefly. And I LOVE that show. But. Where would it have gone? How many more episodes of robberies/jobs gone bad, unable to sell the loot, getting screwed, narrow escapes could we really have been interested in? 1 full season?
tons of back story flashbacks to fill in Book and at some point, I am not sure how long the stories could have kept us going. Would have been NICE to have been proved wrong, but still.

B5 got to wrap everything up nicely at the end of season 4, only to be renewed for the abortion of season 5.

At least West Wing got properly canceled at the end of season 4, rather than have some HACKS at network continue without Sorkin.


BUT, reality shows instead???? HAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
I can rewatch a million diff series which are done instead.
 
2013-01-26 01:25:56 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: I'm still pissed about Duckman ending on a cliffhanger.

I'm also pissed off about Sliders. Not just how Siffy ended it on a cliffhanger, but how they and Fox ruined the show by putting hacks in charge and by being scared of anything but movie of the week world.


wait what?!! Duckman was canceled??? sigh
no wait, everytime I try to rewatch it, I give up before I get to the end. I love the show. I love the never ending death of your fluffy and uranus, but still.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8xp8BQxftE
 
2013-01-26 01:37:48 AM  

namatad: B5 got to wrap everything up nicely at the end of season 4, only to be renewed for the abortion of season 5.


B5 was originally planned in the beginning to be a 5 season arc. It was prewritten that way.

When JMS heard it was being cancelled a year early, he had to scramble to shoehorn all of season 5's major plot points into the final eps of season 4 to finish the show organically. And then later the suits decided to renew it for a 5th season anyway, so he had to come up with a new storyline which is why season 4 feels rushed but final and season 5 feels tacked on and utter crap.
 
2013-01-26 02:22:12 AM  

AdolfOliverPanties: I didn't even bother watching the last few episodes of "Last Resort" once they announced the cancellation. What's the point?


"Last Resort" was given a chance to come up with a semi clean series end after it was canceled. I don't know if it worked or not since I haven't yet seen the last few episodes.
 
2013-01-26 02:23:17 AM  

Itchy Feets: I'm still angry about Alien Nation.


This This This^^^^^!
 
2013-01-26 02:37:24 AM  

Ishkur: namatad: B5 got to wrap everything up nicely at the end of season 4, only to be renewed for the abortion of season 5.

B5 was originally planned in the beginning to be a 5 season arc. It was prewritten that way.

When JMS heard it was being cancelled a year early, he had to scramble to shoehorn all of season 5's major plot points into the final eps of season 4 to finish the show organically. And then later the suits decided to renew it for a 5th season anyway, so he had to come up with a new storyline which is why season 4 feels rushed but final and season 5 feels tacked on and utter crap.


yes, I know all this.
actually, a lot of season 5 had been removed from the season 4/5 arc. 
The psi war and shadow war would have been interleaved.
But once the shadow war was over, season 5 became almost "trivial"
YAWNNN ... ok, we jsut fought this amazing good vs evil ... but now we have to deal with the tards back home ... yawn

alas I used renewed as short cut for "canceled and then renewed"
 
2013-01-26 04:06:15 AM  
Want to know what alienates viewers? Mid-season breaks. Take one week off here, three here, three months here (not the summer break, mind you, mid-prime time season), shuffle the time slot for good measure. Stop that! There are a number of shows I was interested in and just never went back after checking in for a few weeks and not seeing a new episode for no reason. If you insist on making 23 episodes, show them consistently, in order, no weird weeks off, and then repeat. How hard is that?
 
2013-01-26 04:19:16 AM  
Conscience!
 
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