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(AZ Family)   As far as teacher sex scandals are concerned, this one may win the prize; as she's found with not one, two or three but six students at once   (azfamily.com ) divider line
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2013-01-25 10:17:45 PM  
Does this qualify as a trifecta or double trifecta.
 
2013-01-25 10:24:09 PM  
It's called study hall.
 
2013-01-25 10:25:40 PM  
Bag o' potatoes + bag o' potatoes = Do Not Want.
 
2013-01-25 10:26:26 PM  
Extra help in sex ed??
 
2013-01-25 10:26:36 PM  
She'll have tenure in a week.
 
2013-01-25 10:30:49 PM  
Detectives said one of the students filmed the incident with his cellphone.

Dammit, I am still trying to find out where to buy film for those things.
 
2013-01-25 10:40:02 PM  
Special needs teacher? Wins teh prize? And yet none of this on Fark yet...

images.encyclopediadramatica.se

For shame, Fark. For. Shame.
 
2013-01-25 10:43:40 PM  

KyDave: Rindred: It sounds like the case against her....

/puts on sunglasses

....is airtight.

Now, that there's funny. I don't care who you are.

/enjoy your free month


And thank you! I'll be here all week. Please tip your modmin!
 
2013-01-25 10:46:33 PM  

Gergesa: I'm a little unclear about one thing, regarding the 16 year old being recorded having sex with her, does that constitute child porn?


Yes. It does not matter who produces it. The film itself it child porn: Title 18, United States Code, Section 2256 -

(8) "child pornography" means any visual depiction, including any photograph, film, video, picture, or computer or computer-generated image or picture, whether made or produced by electronic, mechanical, or other means, of sexually explicit conduct, where-
(A) the production of such visual depiction involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct;


It is a federal crime (probably) to produce/possess/receive/transport/distribute it but as a general rule the feds don't prosecute minors.

/As a side note, Subby is pretty clueless if he thinks 6 at once is some kind of record. A guy I was prosecuting (pleads on Monday) filmed himself with approximately ten kids. Of course, as he was in his 30s and they were each around 5 years old, it is probably cool with most folks, right? Oh, right, perp was a guy, so not cool.
 
2013-01-25 10:50:03 PM  

skinink: It must be the fact that "boys don't really suffer in these situations" that let the criminal justice system go easy on the women sexual predators. The women really need to face the same charges/penalties as if a man had committed the same crime.


Seriously, when I was 16 or so, a decent looking woman seeking to hop in bed with me would have been taken as a pretty positive situation. Your mileage may vary.
 
2013-01-25 10:50:16 PM  
Subby's mom probably went: "amateur"...
 
2013-01-25 10:53:23 PM  

IAAl: Oh, right, perp was a guy, so not cool


Not comparable and you know it. There's a heck of a lot of difference between the ability of a 5 year old to deal with an adult man and late-stage teenage male and his ability to deal with a twenty-something female. You can pretend otherwise, but nobody would be buying it. I'd bet dollars to donuts that every one of those guys high-fived each other on the way to that activity.
 
2013-01-25 11:00:33 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: She's a teacher's aide, submitter, not a teacher. Big differences between the two as to education, salary, fulfillment, etc.


Fixed that for you.
 
2013-01-25 11:02:23 PM  

weapon13: On a serious note, she was 22, they were 16 and 18. Who Gives a fark?!


The law and her employer.
 
2013-01-25 11:05:57 PM  

spqr_ca: IAAl: Oh, right, perp was a guy, so not cool

Not comparable and you know it. There's a heck of a lot of difference between the ability of a 5 year old to deal with an adult man and late-stage teenage male and his ability to deal with a twenty-something female. You can pretend otherwise, but nobody would be buying it. I'd bet dollars to donuts that every one of those guys high-fived each other on the way to that activity.


Of course it is not the same, but where do you draw the line? 6? 12? 18? And why is it somehow different for boys vs. girls? No girls like sex? All boys like sex? All boys want to have sex with any girl/woman? I just don't buy that.

These female teacher/male student cases are a problem for a number of reasons. First, relationships between teachers and students are supposed to be professional and not sexual (same with family and kids, doctors and kids, etc.). By violating that you are screwing up kids' perceptions of what is and is not acceptable. Second, there is a big power and knowledge difference between a 22 year-old teacher/teacher's aide and a 16 year old student. Even if it is supposedly consensual (ignoring for the moment that the kid can't legally consent) it is not incredibly difficult for a person in a position of power or with significantly more experience/knowledge to convince a person with much less power/knowledge to go along with something they don't really want to do.
 
2013-01-25 11:08:25 PM  
the cell phone video, or it didn't happen.
 
2013-01-25 11:09:15 PM  
images.wikia.com
 
2013-01-25 11:14:18 PM  
A teacher has 6 students, has sexual contact with 3, and is charged 4 times.... find X.
 
2013-01-25 11:15:10 PM  

IAAl: /As a side note, Subby is pretty clueless if he thinks 6 at once is some kind of record. A guy I was prosecuting (pleads on Monday) filmed himself with approximately ten kids. Of course, as he was in his 30s and they were each around 5 years old, it is probably cool with most folks, right? Oh, right, perp was a guy, so not cool.


Less facetiously... the kids were each around 5 years old. If it was a 30 year old dude and ten 16-18 year olds, meh.

Also, I'm confused - was it ten five year olds at once? WTF??
 
2013-01-25 11:18:28 PM  
One girl and three guys? Much better the other way around. Seriously NSFW
 
2013-01-25 11:18:43 PM  

leadmetal: When I was in HS, one of the teachers was married to a former student. He met her when she was 17-18 and he was a new teacher at 22. Probably happened in the 1970s given his age at the time. Of course back then people weren't shocked at a four year age difference. By the time I was in high school it was a curiosity, now in the 21st century it's crime.


I saw something like that happen when I was in HS in the 90s. The wife was a new teacher my sophomore year, the husband a guy a year ahead of me. The husband and I both had her for the same class my junior year.

She returned from Christmas vacation my senior year with a new last name, having married the guy she'd had as a student just six months before.

/Hubby got a 'C+' in her class.
 
2013-01-25 11:22:10 PM  
Dear Penthouse....
 
2013-01-25 11:23:11 PM  

IAAl: spqr_ca: IAAl: Oh, right, perp was a guy, so not cool

Not comparable and you know it. There's a heck of a lot of difference between the ability of a 5 year old to deal with an adult man and late-stage teenage male and his ability to deal with a twenty-something female. You can pretend otherwise, but nobody would be buying it. I'd bet dollars to donuts that every one of those guys high-fived each other on the way to that activity.

Of course it is not the same, but where do you draw the line? 6? 12? 18? And why is it somehow different for boys vs. girls? No girls like sex? All boys like sex? All boys want to have sex with any girl/woman? I just don't buy that.

These female teacher/male student cases are a problem for a number of reasons. First, relationships between teachers and students are supposed to be professional and not sexual (same with family and kids, doctors and kids, etc.). By violating that you are screwing up kids' perceptions of what is and is not acceptable. Second, there is a big power and knowledge difference between a 22 year-old teacher/teacher's aide and a 16 year old student. Even if it is supposedly consensual (ignoring for the moment that the kid can't legally consent) it is not incredibly difficult for a person in a position of power or with significantly more experience/knowledge to convince a person with much less power/knowledge to go along with something they don't really want to do.


You seem to be a lawyer of some sort. Shouldn't it be obvious that law, like ethics, is negotiable and situational? It would be really efficient to just create blanket rules and apply them regardless of context, but the world is complex and multiple factors always need to be considered. Also, different states draw the line in different places. Most (?) recognize the added problem of sex with an authority figure, regardless of age. Sure, there's an apparent double-standard when men vs women are caught banging students (or when pretty women vs ugly women are caught), and that's a problem with the way our culture deals with gender. Also, I would disagree that there's inherently a knowledge/maturity difference between a 22 year old and a 16 year old. There are a lot of immature 22 year olds out there, and a few mature 16 year olds. As someone upthread mentioned, just because they boys were younger and the girl was ostensibly in a position of authority doesn't make her the perp and them the victims. A 22 year old woman with low self-esteem getting badgered (and then buggered...) by six high school boys is not that far-fetched. It's not necessarily rape, but it doesn't make her a conniving sexual predator, or even a nympho slut...
 
2013-01-25 11:27:49 PM  
'Allegedly'. I'm having a hard time believing that she farked one in front of five others. And 'sexually contacted' gave a handie to two others.

FTFT.
 
2013-01-25 11:29:49 PM  

farkinfilipino: [i113.photobucket.com image 268x401]


Well played. You win the thread.
 
2013-01-25 11:34:17 PM  

KyDave: Rindred: It sounds like the case against her....

/puts on sunglasses

....is airtight.

Now, that there's funny. I don't care who you are.

/enjoy your free month


Thought it was pretty lame myself.
 
2013-01-25 11:35:17 PM  
Ok, be honest. What would you really do if this lady walked up to you on the street and said, "I'm a teachers aide and I really just want to have sex with a couple of guys right now, like right now. Would you please come to my apartment with some other guys I just round up and screw me?"

If you are being honest, you should admit that you probably wouldn't go.

Other than recruiting students, how else is this lady going to get what she wants?
 
2013-01-25 11:39:42 PM  

IAAl: Of course it is not the same, but where do you draw the line? 6? 12? 18?


How about 30? 40? Never? There is a point and we're assuming the line is the same for each gender and I'm not sure I buy it.

Second, there is a big power and knowledge difference between a 22 year-old teacher/teacher's aide and a 16 year old student.

No there isn't. 22 vs 16/18? Bullshiat! Try meeting a few 22 year olds and make statement again.

The point is, age isn't a direct measure of maturity, it never has been. When you're talking about people on the edges of adulthood (either side), then there is some room to consider that it isn't quite the same thing as the case you listed. The zero tolerance movement does very little for justice.
 
2013-01-25 11:50:57 PM  
I feel sorry for the 3 kids who were only allowed to watch (and record it). Were they too ugly to join in?
 
2013-01-25 11:53:34 PM  

amquelbettamin: But if your dicks toutch in such a situation you turn gay. Like if she tries to get two in her mouth at a time. BOOM, now you're gay. Or the double penetration scrotum bounce, again BOOM- Gay.


cdn.stereogum.com

It's not gay when it's in a three seven-way.
 
2013-01-25 11:57:55 PM  
Perhaps these boys drugged and raped her and SHE is the victim? This is very possible.
 
2013-01-25 11:59:39 PM  
Only gay if you make eye contact.

/or your balls touch
 
2013-01-26 12:13:17 AM  

KyDave: Rindred: It sounds like the case against her....

/puts on sunglasses

....is airtight.

Now, that there's funny. I don't care who you are.

/enjoy your free month


Did they...

/puts on sunglasses

...git her done?
 
2013-01-26 12:14:36 AM  
Hockey team?
 
2013-01-26 12:15:26 AM  
Her nickname must be fingercuffs.

Seriously, based on the ages of those involved (students and teacher's aide), I have to question the prosecution.  None of these boys will have their lives ruined over this....they'll have something to talk about when they hit college.
 
2013-01-26 12:16:34 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Perhaps these boys drugged and raped her and SHE is the victim? This is very possible.


2/10
 
2013-01-26 12:27:00 AM  

Rindred: It sounds like the case against her....

/puts on sunglasses

....is airtight.


Nicccccccce.
 
2013-01-26 12:27:16 AM  

T-Boy: Ok, be honest. What would you really do if this lady walked up to you on the street and said, "I'm a teachers aide and I really just want to have sex with a couple of guys right now, like right now. Would you please come to my apartment with some other guys I just round up and screw me?"


If you are being honest, you should admit that you probably wouldn't go.

You, my friend, are perfectly correct - most Americans have more sexual hangups than a dom's secret closet. I, however, am not one of them and would jump at the opportunity. I don't find sexually aggressive women intimidating, nor am I terrified of being around multiple boners. Sharp knees are fine as well.

/stupidity, narcissism and entitlement are the only real boner-killers
//and obesity
///and body odor
 
2013-01-26 12:27:28 AM  

Adman12: Lee has been employed as a teacher's aide for special needs children at Amphi High School since August.


Yep, she's farking retarded.
 
2013-01-26 12:27:46 AM  

Smgth: SO, maybe she WASN'T at the bottom of a dogpile of Corkies.


This is the best comment of the thread.
 
2013-01-26 12:29:07 AM  

Mark Ratner: I hope the victims recover. Especially the one who was forced to take a video on his cellphone.


Indeed. How traumatized he must be.
 
2013-01-26 12:31:45 AM  
best recess EVAR!!!
 
2013-01-26 12:32:38 AM  
I'll contribute to her legal defense fund if she'll pretend I'm a 16 year old when she gets out. Hottest pedder ass teacher to date.
 
2013-01-26 12:33:20 AM  

Smgth: Ok, let's stop jumping to unwarranted conclusions. (I know, why else are we here, but still)

FTFA a 'special needs teachers aide' not a 'teachers aide at a special needs school'.

While the latter MAY be the case, it's not stated that way.

SO, maybe she WASN'T at the bottom of a dogpile of Corkies.

Just some lucky lucky lucky guys...

/Unless they touched D's, then they're lucky lucky lucky gays.
//In my mind they TOTALLY Eiffel Towered.


Dogpile of Corkies...

I believe I've just found the name of my new band...
 
2013-01-26 12:36:43 AM  

Christian Bale: She probably never got laid in high school, maybe had a bad self image or acne, and then by the time she was 22 and cute wanted to re-live those days with a better outcome and make up for lost time. She went a little overboard certainly. Her big mistake was to screw 3 guys in front of 3 other guys who were left high and dry, of course one of them was going to film it.

Or maybe she was molested as a child and that's why she's so "messed up". That's the popular theory--that women who act out sexually must have had something bad happen to them. Since sex is a negative thing in our society, that's the only explanation most people will accept. So whether it's true or not she should claim it, or that prescription drug side-effects made her abandon her self-restraint.


Most children are molested; it's so common many counselors consider it part of youth. It is the extent and trauma that differentiates those experiences from one person to the other.

Some people need very high risk sex in order to achieve satisfaction. They will ordinarily prefer sexual encounters in places they are very likely to get caught and shamed.

Some mental health illnesses are accompanied by hyper sexuality. this does not excuse having sex with under aged. Many people with bi-polar disorder have the side dish of hyper sexuality going on, it's like you never grow out of your raging hormones teen age years. when mixed with drugs and/or alcohol this easily lends to high risk behavior and poor choices as well as sex with multiple partners.

----

IAAI you're quite the little troll. I bet you used to get beat up a lot in school.

AbbeySomeone: Perhaps these boys drugged and raped her and SHE is the victim? This is very possible.


I was wondering the same thing, and here this girl is being shamed worldwide on the internet. IMHO there is a lot of news that does not need reporting. Peoples lives get ruined way too quickly.
 
gja
2013-01-26 12:36:54 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Perhaps these boys drugged and raped her and SHE is the victim? This is very possible.


encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com

/not sure if serious
 
2013-01-26 12:43:15 AM  
What about me? I have "special needs" too.
 
2013-01-26 12:50:31 AM  

lantawa: Six, six students at once........AH...AH...AH


GOD DAMMIT! beat me to it
 
2013-01-26 12:51:55 AM  
Mugato:

Ah. Now I know why you're fav'd.
 
2013-01-26 12:53:33 AM  

calbert: "tell me about the time you were a teacher's aide and had sex with 3 students on campus while others were watching and recording, Clarice"


Multiple Miggs wasn't the only one hurling jizz at her face that day.
 
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