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(Time)   Good news everyone. We are all now officially alcoholics   (healthland.time.com) divider line 124
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2013-01-26 09:34:52 AM
Let's put this to a vote, Farkers.

Is addiction a disease?
 
2013-01-26 09:37:26 AM
One of those college binge drinkers. Right here. My drinking habits have drastically changed since then. I can easily have a glass of wine with dinner and not want more. I also easily go days weeks whatever without a drink. Honestly, I don't like hangovers so alcohol can be quite meh.

However, I do have an issue where if I do get to a certain level of drunk and am in a fun celebratory situation, a switch flips and I won't stop drinking. Seems pretty clearly tied to those college years where it was all about drinking more than the next person. This is why I don't do that unless its some special occasion and I know I'm with my hubby or a similar person in a safe place who will cover my ass and cut me off. I rarely ever drink like that now though. The fact that I am capable of recognizing and controlling this issue tells me it's not alcoholism.
 
2013-01-26 09:54:18 AM
Speak for yourselves. Except for my two bloody mary pints the other night, I usually don't have more than two beers a night.
 
2013-01-26 10:12:32 AM

Oldiron_79: Im not an alcoholic Im a drunk. Alcoholics go to meetings


came for this leaving satisfied for another drink
 
2013-01-26 10:13:40 AM

KiwDaWabbit: Let's put this to a vote, Farkers.

Is addiction a disease?


Sometimes
 
2013-01-26 10:55:47 AM
the image they put into the article makes me laugh, including the caption: "Man in bar with a beer."
Oh, is THAT what that is?

Is this shiat being written by some kind of ArticleTron 2000?
img.photobucket.com
Whatever is being done, it certainly makes for some compelling reading.
 
2013-01-26 11:05:56 AM
Beer: The cause of, and solution, to, most of life's problems.


/heads to the fridge to get another beer
 
2013-01-26 11:06:33 AM

cryinoutloud: fuggin bizzy, good luck to you. You are one of my faves, and by Montana standards, practically a neighbor.
It takes a while. I didn't sober up until a few years after rehab. Several tries in AA....but once I figured it out, I had it. The desire went away and I never drank again. It really happens.


Thank you, that means a lot! :-) You're one of my favorites too. We also have much in common, it seems.
 
2013-01-26 11:16:06 AM
With picture of what a man in bar with a beer may look like
 
2013-01-26 11:20:00 AM

cryinoutloud: Fuggin Bizzy: You and I have much in common.
/7 months in AA. 6 days sober.
//Progress, not perfection.

fuggin bizzy, good luck to you. You are one of my faves, and by Montana standards, practically a neighbor.
It takes a while. I didn't sober up until a few years after rehab. Several tries in AA....but once I figured it out, I had it. The desire went away and I never drank again. It really happens.

Torqueknot: CSB time:
I got a bunch of pamphlets on the effects of binge drinking and one for AA and was sent home with a lecture on no more drinking or I will die. It turns out I had pancreatitis and ended up back in the hospital the following Monday. I ended up staying there for three days.
My point? Lie when they ask. It may save you thousands of dollars.

Most people who get pancreatitis are serious, hard-core drinkers. Just saying. My cousin has almost died from it, but he keeps on drinking. Just not as much. it will kill you, and there isn't much they can do to treat it. Except the person has to quit farking drinking.

So try to cut them some slack on this one--I think it's unusual to have pancreatitis if you're not a heavy drinker. And yes, of course alcoholics lie like crazy about how much they drink.


Ah, really? In my case it was a gall stone causing the problem. So I guess I will give them a little slack, but it still pisses me off I spent the weekend in pain befor they figured out what my problem was.
 
2013-01-26 11:20:35 AM
I drink between eight and ten beers per night.

Whenever I'm asked about my alcohol consumption by a doctor (or anyone, really), I says that I "almost never" drink. If pressed further, I'll say that the only time I have alcohol is when my friend throws one of his movie viewing parties, and that I'll have two Bud lights, and no more.

I don't need it getting on some official record that I'm a full blown drunk, or even a moderate drinker. I can only imagine what sorts of hassles that could create down the road.
 
2013-01-26 11:32:33 AM

sno man: Ennuipoet: Will we get some sort of badge or ribbon for this achievement?

A tiny chrome plated trophy with an engraved plate that says Fark Participant?


get em something they may use, a nice commemorative glass and a bar towel
 
2013-01-26 11:36:20 AM

jaylectricity: So I was just wondering something and then I saw this thread and figured this would be a great place to ask my question.

Why is drinking alone supposed to be a bad thing? Do NOT say, "Because that means you have a problem."

I want to know why drinking alone suggests you have a problem.


You're not really drinking alone if it's with your good buddy Wiser, Your pal Jack Daniels and his partner Jimmy Beam, or with yer pal Johnny Walker and his brother black and red.
 
2013-01-26 11:37:01 AM
drunkard.com

They're just a little more sneaky now.
 
2013-01-26 11:39:30 AM
Could be you had 12 grandmothers and 40 uncles who were alcoholic, so it must be genetic. Could be you drank so much so often, you became alcoholic. It really does not matter. If you find you drink and cannot stop, ala binge or daily, you are one. It's the craving physically and mentally that sums it up. Doctors really don't know shiat about this fatal disease.
 
2013-01-26 11:45:36 AM
I drink to get the demons drunk so they'll pass out and leave me alone long enough to go to sleep.

Had a mug of rum last night and all that happened is I wanted to sleep. Dammit, drinking used to be more fun.
 
2013-01-26 12:29:59 PM

HotWingAgenda: nekulor: 4-5 drinks over 6 hours.

Depending on your metabolism, you wouldn't even be over the legal limit to drive.


Exactly, but that's the scientific definition of a binge night.
 
2013-01-26 12:35:13 PM

thisone: nekulor: Sadly, just buzzed this evening. This article is silly though. If it turns out to be true, me drinking casually at a rush party (definitely 4-5 in the night, total) would be binge drinking.

Fark that. I can't feel 4-5 drinks over 6 hours.

Now I have to go read the article:

why is a Times article referring to a study done in Australia, using data on Australians, when the article seems to be based on a research study done at VCU on VCU students, and then says it likes the VCU study better because the numbers are more pleasing.

I didn't see any exact numbers for drinks per sitting, but I do think I like the UK method of measuring consumption. It's not about having so many in a night, it's about averages. As in, for health reasons you really shouldn't regularly consume more than x units a day. Where regularly means every or almost every day during the week.


America's number is an arbitrary number of drinks per day/per week and takes into no account metabolic rate or size of the person. Like, I way 150, but it takes about 10 or so in a night to really get me drunk because my metabolism is stupid fast.
 
2013-01-26 03:36:31 PM
i172.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-26 06:20:30 PM

jaylectricity:
Why is drinking alone supposed to be a bad thing? Do NOT say, "Because that means you have a problem."


Besides hiding the amount somebody drinks, the kind of things they say and do while drinking may have passed into the unacceptable. If you get so farked up when you drink that you can't find somebody willing to put up with you while you drink, you could have a problem. OTOH, you could just be an introvert like me and hate people.

I like one beer every night while reading before I go to sleep. There's nobody there except the dog because I go to sleep before my DH does. I don't think the dog counts. Therefore I am drinking alone 7 nights a week. Its not a problem to me because its my total alcohol intake.
 
2013-01-26 07:46:43 PM

doczoidberg: I drink between eight and ten beers per night.

Whenever I'm asked about my alcohol consumption by a doctor (or anyone, really), I says that I "almost never" drink. If pressed further, I'll say that the only time I have alcohol is when my friend throws one of his movie viewing parties, and that I'll have two Bud lights, and no more.

I don't need it getting on some official record that I'm a full blown drunk, or even a moderate drinker. I can only imagine what sorts of hassles that could create down the road.


You do know your doctor can test your blood and urine for alcohol and drugs and you lying off your ass can be recorded in your record without you even knowing, right?
 
2013-01-26 10:58:16 PM
Alcoholics go to meetings. I'm a drunk. We go to parties.

/kidding?
 
2013-01-27 02:34:20 AM

megalynn44: doczoidberg: I drink between eight and ten beers per night.

Whenever I'm asked about my alcohol consumption by a doctor (or anyone, really), I says that I "almost never" drink. If pressed further, I'll say that the only time I have alcohol is when my friend throws one of his movie viewing parties, and that I'll have two Bud lights, and no more.

I don't need it getting on some official record that I'm a full blown drunk, or even a moderate drinker. I can only imagine what sorts of hassles that could create down the road.

You do know your doctor can test your blood and urine for alcohol and drugs and you lying off your ass can be recorded in your record without you even knowing, right?


I think the biggest thing here is that you should tell your doctor the truth so he can properly assist you in being as healthy as you can. Even if you can't be totally healthy because you drink too much, at least your doctor can say, "Hey, if you're gonna drink that much, at least try to get about an hour of cardio a day and maybe a bunch of broccoli or carrots or something."
 
2013-01-29 12:15:33 AM

jaylectricity: megalynn44: doczoidberg: I drink between eight and ten beers per night.

Whenever I'm asked about my alcohol consumption by a doctor (or anyone, really), I says that I "almost never" drink. If pressed further, I'll say that the only time I have alcohol is when my friend throws one of his movie viewing parties, and that I'll have two Bud lights, and no more.

I don't need it getting on some official record that I'm a full blown drunk, or even a moderate drinker. I can only imagine what sorts of hassles that could create down the road.

You do know your doctor can test your blood and urine for alcohol and drugs and you lying off your ass can be recorded in your record without you even knowing, right?

I think the biggest thing here is that you should tell your doctor the truth so he can properly assist you in being as healthy as you can. Even if you can't be totally healthy because you drink too much, at least your doctor can say, "Hey, if you're gonna drink that much, at least try to get about an hour of cardio a day and maybe a bunch of broccoli or carrots or something."


That's my general plan. I drink like several fish, because I have to keep up with the gott damn freshmen.

/Being Van Wilder looks easy on TV.
 
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