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2013-01-25 08:35:15 PM  
Doctor Strange could be cool. Especially if they kept it as psychedelic as the early comics.
 
2013-01-25 08:38:27 PM  

fusillade762: Doctor Strange could be cool. Especially if they kept it as psychedelic as the early comics.


Quite right.

Too bad we don't have the acting talent that we used to have. Vincent Price would've been a badass Doctor Strange.
 
2013-01-25 08:50:46 PM  
The line "Edgar wright is the only reason were doing this" makes actually want to see this
 
2013-01-25 08:52:22 PM  
Mant, you say?
 
2013-01-25 08:52:50 PM  

thecpt: The line "Edgar wright is the only reason were doing this" makes actually want to see this


Pretty much.

Edgar Wright's behind a movie? I'm there. It's that simple.
 
2013-01-25 08:57:47 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: thecpt: The line "Edgar wright is the only reason were doing this" makes actually want to see this

Pretty much.

Edgar Wright's behind a movie? I'm there. It's that simple.


Thirded. I expect that both Nick Frost and Simon Pegg to be involved in some capacity.
 
2013-01-25 08:59:16 PM  
t3.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-25 09:03:18 PM  

Apos: Thirded. I expect that both Nick Frost and Simon Pegg to be involved in some capacity.


It would be great if they were, that's for damn sure.

If not, we still have The World's End.
 
2013-01-25 09:06:59 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com

Only casting option
 
2013-01-25 09:08:39 PM  

ArkAngel: Only casting option


That would be awesome casting for so many reasons.
 
2013-01-25 09:09:43 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Apos: Thirded. I expect that both Nick Frost and Simon Pegg to be involved in some capacity.

It would be great if they were, that's for damn sure.

If not, we still have The World's End.



True.
 
2013-01-25 09:17:53 PM  
really I just want to see who they cast as the Wasp
 
2013-01-25 09:18:56 PM  
I'm not so sure about a Doctor Strange movie. The writers generally had a hard time with him because there weren't clear limits to his power. Internal consistency was unusually spotty with regards to what he could do.
 
2013-01-25 09:22:16 PM  
I'm pretty meh on Ant-Man. Pym just isn't that interesting to me, although if it leads to a movie with Janet I guess I'd be willing to suffer through it. I would think that Ant-Man will be done before Strange simply so they can include him in the inevitable Avengers 3.

I'd love a Doctor Strange movie done right. I'm actually not too interested in the psychedelic aspects most folks would expect from a Doctor Strange movie. I just like the character.
 
2013-01-25 09:24:32 PM  

CHRISTIAN BALE!

 
2013-01-25 09:24:59 PM  
I'm expecting about 90 minutes worth of this:

imageshack.us
 
2013-01-25 09:48:08 PM  
Jon Hamm as Dr.Strange.
 
2013-01-25 09:48:50 PM  

ArkAngel: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x324]

Only casting option


Get Guillermo del Toro or Terry Gilliam to direct that and I'd be fapping in the theater like it was a Jessica Alba/Kate Upton lesbian sex video.
 
2013-01-25 09:52:09 PM  
With 3D spousal abuse?
 
2013-01-25 09:52:49 PM  

katerbug72: Mant, you say?

 
2013-01-25 09:55:00 PM  

rickycal78: I'm pretty meh on Ant-Man. Pym just isn't that interesting to me, although if it leads to a movie with Janet I guess I'd be willing to suffer through it. I would think that Ant-Man will be done before Strange simply so they can include him in the inevitable Avengers 3.

I'd love a Doctor Strange movie done right. I'm actually not too interested in the psychedelic aspects most folks would expect from a Doctor Strange movie. I just like the character.


Yeah, they can do away with the funky 60's/70's vibe. Hell, it was never actually really part of the character, it was just that a certain part of the culture co-opted the character as a target for their psychodelia.

A modern updating of Dr. Strange, similar to say, Jim Butcher's The Dresden Files could be totally gripping.
 
2013-01-25 10:05:38 PM  
Edgar Wright film = will see. That it's a Marvel movie is just a bonus.
 
2013-01-25 10:09:48 PM  
I'm glad they've finally done something. Wright's been attached to this and asked about it for more than six years.

Apos: Thirded. I expect that both Nick Frost and Simon Pegg to be involved in some capacity.


Why? Scott Pilgrim was fine without them and Paul was fine without Wright.
 
2013-01-25 10:13:18 PM  
Brighter side: we might finally get a freaking Dr. Strange Omnibus or two out of this!

Woot!
 
2013-01-25 10:34:02 PM  
Still hoping for this.

www.joblo.com
 
2013-01-25 10:37:24 PM  
Edgar Wright could film someone throwing a phone book across the room and it would still manage to be one of my favorite movies of the year. I'm already there, man.
 
2013-01-25 10:49:59 PM  
I will have to check the Dr Strange cartoon on netflix I guess. Been watching some of the other ones and have been mostly impressed by them. Spiderwoman I didn't understand wtf was going on and the some of the Superman flicks ended up deus ex machina-ing everything with an army of super-bots which was pretty disappointing.
 
2013-01-25 10:53:20 PM  
While a Hank Pym Ant-Man wouldn't be bad, I kind of am hoping for the Irredeemable Ant-Man version ... much more depth, less punching of Janet Van Dyne.

I'd take a Hank Pym as Yellowjacket movie, though. My favorite underrated Avenger.
 
2013-01-25 10:54:37 PM  
the Scott Lang version wouldn't be bad, either -- but I always found him to be an awfully sad, character.
 
2013-01-25 10:59:25 PM  
GypsyJoker:
Get Guillermo del Toro or Terry Gilliam to direct that and I'd be fapping in the theater like it was a Jessica Alba/Kate Upton lesbian sex video.

Dr Strange directed by Del Toro?

i640.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-25 10:59:51 PM  
I think Joseph Fiennes would make a good doc strange
 
2013-01-25 11:03:10 PM  

Metaluna Mutant: GypsyJoker:
Get Guillermo del Toro or Terry Gilliam to direct that and I'd be fapping in the theater like it was a Jessica Alba/Kate Upton lesbian sex video.

Dr Strange directed by Del Toro?

[i640.photobucket.com image 850x481]


Del Toro would be great but I was thinking Aronofsky watch the Fountain and you'll see what I mean.
 
2013-01-25 11:06:58 PM  
Awesome awesome  awesome  awesome  awesome  where's the Black Panther awesome  awesome  awesome  awesome
 
2013-01-25 11:11:40 PM  

fusillade762: Doctor Strange could be cool. Especially if they kept it as psychedelic as the early comics.


This.

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Too bad we don't have the acting talent that we used to have. Vincent Price would've been a badass Doctor Strange.


Ehhh, not too sure about this one but I'll take your word for it.

jocutus: I'm expecting about 90 minutes worth of this:

[imageshack.us image 600x705]


Boy, hope Carol didn't see him. She'd scream then blast his tiny ass into the next known city.

Guntram Shatterhand: Brighter side: we might finally get a freaking Dr. Strange Omnibus or two out of this!

Woot!


That.

Metaluna Mutant: GypsyJoker:
Get Guillermo del Toro or Terry Gilliam to direct that and I'd be fapping in the theater like it was a Jessica Alba/Kate Upton lesbian sex video.

Dr Strange directed by Del Toro?

(shutupandtakemymoney.jpg)


The other.
 
2013-01-25 11:14:25 PM  

Plant Rights Activist: I will have to check the Dr Strange cartoon on netflix


I was happily surprised with it.  I felt it was a decent flick.
 
2013-01-25 11:17:07 PM  

solaufein: Plant Rights Activist: I will have to check the Dr Strange cartoon on netflix

I was happily surprised with it.  I felt it was a decent flick.


True; watched it sometime ago. Did Dr. Strange justice.

/First things first Marvel: WHERE'S A DR. STRANGE ONGOING SERIES?!
// I. DEMAND. IT!
 
2013-01-25 11:31:10 PM  

ScaryBottles: Metaluna Mutant: GypsyJoker:
Get Guillermo del Toro or Terry Gilliam to direct that and I'd be fapping in the theater like it was a Jessica Alba/Kate Upton lesbian sex video.

Dr Strange directed by Del Toro?

[i640.photobucket.com image 850x481]

Del Toro would be great but I was thinking Aronofsky watch the Fountain and you'll see what I mean.


Aronofsky has great vision, but I think he's a bit too far up his own ass to do a superhero movie.
 
2013-01-25 11:33:33 PM  
Hugh Laurie as Strange
Nathan Fillion as Ant Man
Jennifer Lawrence as Wasp
 
2013-01-25 11:34:40 PM  
This probably won't be a very popular opinion around FARK, but as much as I love Edgar Wright himself (the dude is a hoot on the Doug Loves Movies podcast), he is not a very good writer or filmmaker. Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are mediocre and Scott Pilgrim, while obviously a loving tribute to 8-bit and 16-bit gaming, is a total mess.

He also had a hand in writing that terrible Tintin garbage that Spielberg foisted on the world, and Tintin is so awesome that you pretty much have to TRY to fark that up.
 
2013-01-25 11:35:35 PM  
It's a shame that the highly underrated Eric O'Grady as Ant-Man isn't in the movie but... I'll take what I can get.
 
2013-01-25 11:58:08 PM  
 
2013-01-26 12:02:52 AM  
While I know that Hank slapping Janet is a memorable moment in Ant-Man/Yellow Jacket/Giant Man's history, I kind of hope it won't be mentioned in the movie.
 
2013-01-26 12:27:55 AM  

fusillade762: Here's you official list of rumors:

Jim Caviezel is up to play Doctor Strange.
Hugh Laurie was one of the Marvel Studios' choices for Doctor Strange, but felt it would seem to much like "House becoming a Magician".
Patrick Dempsey is in the running for Doctor Strange.[1][2]
Nestor Carbonell and Skeet Ulrich are on Marvel's wishlist to played Doctor Strange.[3]
Adrien Brody is on a close deal with Marvel for the role of Dr. Strange.[4]
Patrick Dempsey reveals in a interview with IGN, if he dons't get the part his Alternate Casting Choices will be Daniel Day Lewis. [5]
Benedict Cumberbatch is up for a role in a future Marvel Studios film, possibly Doctor Strange's. [6]
Corey Stoll is interested in playing the character. [7]
Doctor Strange will debut in Thor: The Dark World with Joel Edgerton as the character.

Nestor Carbonell??


Rwa2play: /First things first Marvel: WHERE'S A DR. STRANGE ONGOING SERIES?!

They tried it in 1978.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 600x440]

It didn't work out well.


*Wince* Yes, I remember this atrocity well.
 
2013-01-26 12:36:24 AM  
Ant-man will blow. The only reason for it to exist is as a setup for Ultron as the bad buy in the third Avengers movie. Think I'm wrong? Dude, it's ANT-MAN. He's Aquaman, but with ants.
 
2013-01-26 12:43:06 AM  

TwistedFark: rickycal78: I'm pretty meh on Ant-Man. Pym just isn't that interesting to me, although if it leads to a movie with Janet I guess I'd be willing to suffer through it. I would think that Ant-Man will be done before Strange simply so they can include him in the inevitable Avengers 3.

I'd love a Doctor Strange movie done right. I'm actually not too interested in the psychedelic aspects most folks would expect from a Doctor Strange movie. I just like the character.

Yeah, they can do away with the funky 60's/70's vibe. Hell, it was never actually really part of the character, it was just that a certain part of the culture co-opted the character as a target for their psychodelia.

A modern updating of Dr. Strange, similar to say, Jim Butcher's The Dresden Files could be totally gripping.


fark THAT, lets just make a GOOD Dresden movie. The short-lived tv show was okay, but it was too low budget, and not enough White Council / Red Court War.

/currently finish up book... 9 I think.
 
2013-01-26 01:09:52 AM  
I'm voting for Jack Black as Strange
 
2013-01-26 01:10:29 AM  
I'm intrigued.. please continue.
 
2013-01-26 01:33:34 AM  

Gergesa: I'm not so sure about a Doctor Strange movie. The writers generally had a hard time with him because there weren't clear limits to his power. Internal consistency was unusually spotty with regards to what he could do.


One of my friends got the Marvel Superheroes RPG in the late 1980's. Seemed like Doctor Strange's limit was along the lines of 'choose whatever you want to happen, make a roll against his psyche stat, which is 'Ungodly', and if you make it, it happens.'
 
2013-01-26 01:55:07 AM  
The problem with Doctor Strange is he doesn't exactly ooze personality.
 
2013-01-26 02:24:10 AM  

Confabulat: The problem with Doctor Strange is he doesn't exactly ooze personality.


It's gotten to where every character remotely like him is infinitely more interesting. Harry Dresden chief among them. If George RR Martin would relax a little on his "this has to be the way it is, no retcons, ever" I'd be excited for that, but then, it would never ever be finished.
 
2013-01-26 03:12:58 AM  
www.thefilmcynics.com
 
2013-01-26 08:17:24 AM  
That seems an appropriate pairing of announcements: Dr. Strange is Earth's Sorcerer Supreme, Hank Pym is Earth's Scientist Supreme.
 
2013-01-26 09:11:13 AM  
What is the point of ant man? Every time it rains he gets completely lost.
 
2013-01-26 09:28:30 AM  
I haven't read any Ant-Man comics, but I have a hard time trying to imagine a compelling story for him.
 
2013-01-26 10:51:07 AM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: fusillade762: Doctor Strange could be cool. Especially if they kept it as psychedelic as the early comics.

Quite right.

Too bad we don't have the acting talent that we used to have. Vincent Price would've been a badass Doctor Strange.


I am listening to Mr. Price's instructions on how to raise the dead as we speak.
 
2013-01-26 11:17:54 AM  

foo monkey: Ant-man will blow. The only reason for it to exist is as a setup for Ultron as the bad buy in the third Avengers movie. Think I'm wrong? Dude, it's ANT-MAN. He's Aquaman, but with ants.


And spousal abuse and voyeurism
 
2013-01-26 11:20:51 AM  

Erix: I haven't read any Ant-Man comics, but I have a hard time trying to imagine a compelling story for him.


Imagine hanging out in a shower observing Scarlett Johanson's soapy rack filling your entire field of view. Then he has wacky adventures with his robot buddy, teaching him how to love and take the fall when he needs to impress a chick.
 
2013-01-26 11:22:23 AM  

Fano: foo monkey: Ant-man will blow. The only reason for it to exist is as a setup for Ultron as the bad buy in the third Avengers movie. Think I'm wrong? Dude, it's ANT-MAN. He's Aquaman, but with ants.

And spousal abuse and voyeurism


That's two different Ant-Men. Pym is the abuser, O'Grady is the voyeur.
 
2013-01-26 11:35:10 AM  

rickycal78: Fano: foo monkey: Ant-man will blow. The only reason for it to exist is as a setup for Ultron as the bad buy in the third Avengers movie. Think I'm wrong? Dude, it's ANT-MAN. He's Aquaman, but with ants.

And spousal abuse and voyeurism

That's two different Ant-Men. Pym is the abuser, O'Grady is the voyeur.


Pym wouldn't pass on seeing massive breasts that appear to stretch from sea to sea, more colossal than the Grand Tetons.
 
2013-01-26 11:49:04 AM  

Fano: Erix: I haven't read any Ant-Man comics, but I have a hard time trying to imagine a compelling story for him.

Imagine hanging out in a shower observing Scarlett Johanson's soapy rack filling your entire field of view. Then he has wacky adventures with his robot buddy, teaching him how to love and take the fall when he needs to impress a chick.


Sounds halfway to the greatest movie ever made. I'm convinced.
 
2013-01-26 12:13:29 PM  

Gaambit: That seems an appropriate pairing of announcements: Dr. Strange is Earth's Sorcerer Supreme, Hank Pym is Earth's Scientist Supreme.


And Reed Richards is Earth's Asshole Scientist Supreme.
 
2013-01-26 12:24:49 PM  

NeoCortex42: Gaambit: That seems an appropriate pairing of announcements: Dr. Strange is Earth's Sorcerer Supreme, Hank Pym is Earth's Scientist Supreme.

And Reed Richards is Earth's Asshole Scientist Supreme.


I thought Richards, Pym, and Stark were the asshole genius trio.
 
2013-01-26 12:28:01 PM  

Erix: I haven't read any Ant-Man comics, but I have a hard time trying to imagine a compelling story for him.


Having to call it "Ant-Man" may hamper it some, but they can't rightly call it "Hank Pym" either.
Pym is a very interesting character, especially in the last few years. Dan Slott did good work with him in Mighty Avengers, where Pym is basically just trying to get respect in the world. The man could barely put together a team of C-Listers, and when he saw the potential of having Loki as an ally, everyone bailed on him (though he ended up being right). He is potentially smarter than both Reed Richards and Tony Stark, who have both had they're share of problems, and it frustrates him that he doesn't get taken as seriously as them.
 
2013-01-26 12:45:06 PM  
I still cant believe theyre making this.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-26 01:30:19 PM  

ArkAngel: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x324]

Only casting option


Only if he leaves House at home. Laurie's a fantastic actor though, so I doubt he'd have much trouble doing that. I'd also consider that Fassbender fellow or Ralph Fiennes, though Ralph would be much better suited to a villain's role.
 
2013-01-26 01:37:19 PM  

eddievercetti: Hugh Laurie as Strange
Nathan Fillion as Ant Man
Jennifer Lawrence as Wasp


Quit trying to shoehorn Nathan where he doesn't belong. I love the guy, but he'd be a terrible Ant-Man. Part of Fillion's charm is that he plays a really good loveable idiot of sorts. Hearing him going on about Pym Particles and quantum mechanics would be awkward. And Jennifer Lawrence, while a solid dramatic actress, doesn't have the necessary "ditzy, hardheaded superheroine with a heart of gold" flavor to be a good Wasp. Just say what you really mean. You want to see Nathan 50 feet tall, and you want to see Jennifer Lawrence in a skin-tight wasp costume and wings.

/I know I do
//Hell, I'd take Jennifer Lawrence in a loose-fitting burlap sack
 
2013-01-26 01:41:10 PM  

Cyno01: I still cant believe theyre making this.

[i.imgur.com image 850x370]


I'd never heard of GotG until they announced that movie. Since then I've been reading the post-Phalanx/Secret Invasion Guardians comics through Marvel's unlimited subscription thing and I got to say, it's a damn cool comic. Usually the "cosmic" level stuff turns me off because it's just soooo far fetched, but the characters have actually been pretty fun. All-in-all, I'm looking forward to the movie.
 
2013-01-26 02:08:29 PM  

this_is_ace: While a Hank Pym Ant-Man wouldn't be bad, I kind of am hoping for the Irredeemable Ant-Man version ... much more depth, less punching of Janet Van Dyne.


Reminds me of a joke about a Scottish guy in a bar...
 
2013-01-26 03:46:58 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

Too bad he:
1. Already played a magician
2. Already played a Marvel character
3.Ticked Marvel off

He would have been perfect.
 
2013-01-26 03:55:41 PM  

mooseyfate: ArkAngel: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x324]

Only casting option

Only if he leaves House at home. Laurie's a fantastic actor though, so I doubt he'd have much trouble doing that. I'd also consider that Fassbender fellow or Ralph Fiennes, though Ralph would be much better suited to a villain's role.


Fassbender is magneto. Lawrence is Mystique.
 
2013-01-26 05:12:47 PM  
Why does everybody bag on Ant-Man? Pym is awesome. He's one of my favorite Marvel characters. Maybe it's that people don't realize he's way more than just a guy who can shrink and talk to ants.

He's the inventor of Pym Particles. He can use them to shrink to any size (even subatomic) or grow into Giant-Man (his current moniker, again). He has limits to his growth because the human body can't support itself past a certain point, but he can get big enough to slap around some of the heavy hitters. He also retains his normal full-size strength when he's shrunk down, meaning he's got full power on his punches even though he's effectively too small to see or hit.

He's the guy who discovered the Microverse exists (you know, the home of the Micronauts?) and he is ridiculously brilliant. He has done a lot more than the Ant-Man helmet and Pym Particles.

Yes, he can communicate with ants, but that's actually a pretty nifty power. Using that power, he has given Doctor Doom a run for his money. He has kept the Hulk at bay. He has given the Beyonder a rash. (Okay, I made up that last one, but still...)

In Marvel, you've got a few different genius super-scientists:

Reed Richards, the biggest brain of them all. Unfortunately, he's also a dick who sometimes lacks empathy.

Tony Stark, a brilliant engineer who also suffers from being something of a dick, though for different reasons (alcoholism, political stance, etc.)

Peter Parker, a talented inventor and chemist who unfortunately spent most of his adult life thus far not applying himself. When he does put his mind to it (or Otto's mind to it) he can do amazing things that rival the works of guys like Pym and Stark.

Henry McCoy, one of the best geneticists and biochemists in the world. Perhaps the smartest guy in the room when we're talking about mutants. Also a skilled engineer, chemist, and jack-of-all-trades. His only weakness is that he's damnably moral and won't cross a lot of lines to achieve the desired goals.

And so on...

My point is that Pym's among these guys in terms of brains, and he isn't as much of a dick as Richards or Stark, isn't such a wet blanket as Beast, and isn't a slacker like Parker. He has one weakness and that is that he's obsessive.

And yes, he hit Janet. Once. It's not like Reed hasn't smacked around Susan. It's not like Peter Parker didn't snap Gwen's neck. It's not like Stark hasn't loved and left every female in the Marvel Universe. I hardly see why Pym gets such a bad rap for his episode with Janet when they've all been just as bad when it comes to the way they've treated women at one time or another.

At least he didn't rape Sue Dibney or fold up someone's girlfriend in the refrigerator.
 
2013-01-26 05:42:05 PM  

mooseyfate: Quit trying to shoehorn Nathan where he doesn't belong. I love the guy, but he'd be a terrible Ant-Man. Part of Fillion's charm is that he plays a really good loveable idiot of sorts. Hearing him going on about Pym Particles and quantum mechanics would be awkward. And Jennifer Lawrence, while a solid dramatic actress, doesn't have the necessary "ditzy, hardheaded superheroine with a heart of gold" flavor to be a good Wasp. Just say what you really mean. You want to see Nathan 50 feet tall, and you want to see Jennifer Lawrence in a skin-tight wasp costume and wings.


He's also rumored to be Star Lord but yeah, I'm being biased in casting. Wasp will be the hardest one to cast because everyone who I can think of to be Janet is either too old or too serious.
 
2013-01-26 06:09:20 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Why does everybody bag on Ant-Man? Pym is awesome. He's one of my favorite Marvel characters. Maybe it's that people don't realize he's way more than just a guy who can shrink and talk to ants.

He's the inventor of Pym Particles. He can use them to shrink to any size (even subatomic) or grow into Giant-Man (his current moniker, again). He has limits to his growth because the human body can't support itself past a certain point, but he can get big enough to slap around some of the heavy hitters. He also retains his normal full-size strength when he's shrunk down, meaning he's got full power on his punches even though he's effectively too small to see or hit.

He's the guy who discovered the Microverse exists (you know, the home of the Micronauts?) and he is ridiculously brilliant. He has done a lot more than the Ant-Man helmet and Pym Particles.

Yes, he can communicate with ants, but that's actually a pretty nifty power. Using that power, he has given Doctor Doom a run for his money. He has kept the Hulk at bay. He has given the Beyonder a rash. (Okay, I made up that last one, but still...)

In Marvel, you've got a few different genius super-scientists:

Reed Richards, the biggest brain of them all. Unfortunately, he's also a dick who sometimes lacks empathy.

Tony Stark, a brilliant engineer who also suffers from being something of a dick, though for different reasons (alcoholism, political stance, etc.)

Peter Parker, a talented inventor and chemist who unfortunately spent most of his adult life thus far not applying himself. When he does put his mind to it (or Otto's mind to it) he can do amazing things that rival the works of guys like Pym and Stark.

Henry McCoy, one of the best geneticists and biochemists in the world. Perhaps the smartest guy in the room when we're talking about mutants. Also a skilled engineer, chemist, and jack-of-all-trades. His only weakness is that he's damnably moral and won't cross a lot of lines to achieve the desired goals.

And so on...

My point is that Pym's among these guys in terms of brains, and he isn't as much of a dick as Richards or Stark, isn't such a wet blanket as Beast, and isn't a slacker like Parker. He has one weakness and that is that he's obsessive.

And yes, he hit Janet. Once. It's not like Reed hasn't smacked around Susan. It's not like Peter Parker didn't snap Gwen's neck. It's not like Stark hasn't loved and left every female in the Marvel Universe. I hardly see why Pym gets such a bad rap for his episode with Janet when they've all been just as bad when it comes to the way they've treated women at one time or another.

At least he didn't rape Sue Dibney or fold up someone's girlfriend in the refrigerator.


Oh, low blow with Gwen Stacey.
 
2013-01-26 07:07:07 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Why does everybody bag on Ant-Man? Pym is awesome. He's one of my favorite Marvel characters. Maybe it's that people don't realize he's way more than just a guy who can shrink and talk to ants.

He's the inventor of Pym Particles. He can use them to shrink to any size (even subatomic) or grow into Giant-Man (his current moniker, again). He has limits to his growth because the human body can't support itself past a certain point, but he can get big enough to slap around some of the heavy hitters. He also retains his normal full-size strength when he's shrunk down, meaning he's got full power on his punches even though he's effectively too small to see or hit.

He's the guy who discovered the Microverse exists (you know, the home of the Micronauts?) and he is ridiculously brilliant. He has done a lot more than the Ant-Man helmet and Pym Particles.

Yes, he can communicate with ants, but that's actually a pretty nifty power. Using that power, he has given Doctor Doom a run for his money. He has kept the Hulk at bay. He has given the Beyonder a rash. (Okay, I made up that last one, but still...)

In Marvel, you've got a few different genius super-scientists:

Reed Richards, the biggest brain of them all. Unfortunately, he's also a dick who sometimes lacks empathy.

Tony Stark, a brilliant engineer who also suffers from being something of a dick, though for different reasons (alcoholism, political stance, etc.)

Peter Parker, a talented inventor and chemist who unfortunately spent most of his adult life thus far not applying himself. When he does put his mind to it (or Otto's mind to it) he can do amazing things that rival the works of guys like Pym and Stark.

Henry McCoy, one of the best geneticists and biochemists in the world. Perhaps the smartest guy in the room when we're talking about mutants. Also a skilled engineer, chemist, and jack-of-all-trades. His only weakness is that he's damnably moral and won't cross a lot of lines to achieve the desired goals.

And so ...


Was it you or FNB that recaptioned the famous Pym slap pic with "slap a biatch whack a bitach happy slappy whack whack whack" or something like that?
 
2013-01-26 07:21:00 PM  

Confabulat: The problem with Doctor Strange is he doesn't exactly ooze personality.


replace him with Dr Orpheus then
 
2013-01-26 07:50:59 PM  
DC's Atom was always better than the gay wife-beater (Gi)Ant Man
 
2013-01-26 08:38:29 PM  
I feel like David Tennant would make an awesome Doctor...Strange.

/See what I did there?
 
2013-01-26 09:34:56 PM  
Bummed out they're probably going with Scott Lang (hence the reason they brought him back in the comics). The Eric O'Grady version seems like the easiest to adapt for the screen.
 
2013-01-26 09:59:59 PM  

Fano: Was it you or FNB that recaptioned the famous Pym slap pic with "slap a biatch whack a bitach happy slappy whack whack whack" or something like that?


It wasn't me.

And Benedict Cumberbatch is my choice for Doctor Strange, if they age him up a bit.
 
2013-01-26 10:04:20 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Fano: Was it you or FNB that recaptioned the famous Pym slap pic with "slap a biatch whack a bitach happy slappy whack whack whack" or something like that?

It wasn't me.

And Benedict Cumberbatch is my choice for Doctor Strange, if they age him up a bit.


Instead of aging Benedict Cumberbatch, why not just use James Nesbitt?
 
2013-01-26 10:23:33 PM  
The only thing I've seen him in was The Hobbit, and you can hardly tell one dwarf actor from another under all that makeup. I assume, however, that he's good.

I just hope they don't make a young, hip Doctor Strange. He's supposed to be older (yet nearly immortal). He was an experience surgeon when he had his accident, and spent years searching and training before even getting close to being the Sorcerer Supreme, and he didn't cease aging until well after that. I don't want a cool 20-something Doctor Strange. I want an older Strange who looks like a man who has lived a life before he ever stepped into the magical role he now plays.
 
2013-01-27 10:12:50 AM  
foo monkey:
Fassbender is magneto. Lawrence is Mystique.

Only in the Fox film universe, not Marvel's. Marvel had no problem casting Chris Evans (who had played Johnny Storm in 2 films for Fox) as Captain America.
 
2013-01-27 02:45:33 PM  

jdjoker: foo monkey:
Fassbender is magneto. Lawrence is Mystique.

Only in the Fox film universe, not Marvel's. Marvel had no problem casting Chris Evans (who had played Johnny Storm in 2 films for Fox) as Captain America.


This. I'm pretty sure the only Fox actor you're not getting a hold of would be Hugh Jackman. If Fox DOESN'T have him on lockdown, they're dumber than I farking thought.
 
2013-01-27 03:05:52 PM  

Apos: Rwa2play: /First things first Marvel: WHERE'S A DR. STRANGE ONGOING SERIES?!

They tried it in 1978.

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It didn't work out well.

*Wince* Yes, I remember this atrocity well.


This.
 
2013-01-27 03:08:42 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Why does everybody bag on Ant-Man? Pym is awesome. He's one of my favorite Marvel characters. Maybe it's that people don't realize he's way more than just a guy who can shrink and talk to ants.

He's the inventor of Pym Particles. He can use them to shrink to any size (even subatomic) or grow into Giant-Man (his current moniker, again). He has limits to his growth because the human body can't support itself past a certain point, but he can get big enough to slap around some of the heavy hitters. He also retains his normal full-size strength when he's shrunk down, meaning he's got full power on his punches even though he's effectively too small to see or hit.

He's the guy who discovered the Microverse exists (you know, the home of the Micronauts?) and he is ridiculously brilliant. He has done a lot more than the Ant-Man helmet and Pym Particles.

Yes, he can communicate with ants, but that's actually a pretty nifty power. Using that power, he has given Doctor Doom a run for his money. He has kept the Hulk at bay. He has given the Beyonder a rash. (Okay, I made up that last one, but still...)

In Marvel, you've got a few different genius super-scientists:

Reed Richards, the biggest brain of them all. Unfortunately, he's also a dick who sometimes lacks empathy.

Tony Stark, a brilliant engineer who also suffers from being something of a dick, though for different reasons (alcoholism, political stance, etc.)

Peter Parker, a talented inventor and chemist who unfortunately spent most of his adult life thus far not applying himself. When he does put his mind to it (or Otto's mind to it) he can do amazing things that rival the works of guys like Pym and Stark.

Henry McCoy, one of the best geneticists and biochemists in the world. Perhaps the smartest guy in the room when we're talking about mutants. Also a skilled engineer, chemist, and jack-of-all-trades. His only weakness is that he's damnably moral and won't cross a lot of lines to achieve the desired goals.

And so ...


Wow, you fail miserably at comparisons.
 
2013-01-27 05:54:41 PM  

Rwa2play: ZeroCorpse: Why does everybody bag on Ant-Man? Pym is awesome. He's one of my favorite Marvel characters. Maybe it's that people don't realize he's way more than just a guy who can shrink and talk to ants.

He's the inventor of Pym Particles. He can use them to shrink to any size (even subatomic) or grow into Giant-Man (his current moniker, again). He has limits to his growth because the human body can't support itself past a certain point, but he can get big enough to slap around some of the heavy hitters. He also retains his normal full-size strength when he's shrunk down, meaning he's got full power on his punches even though he's effectively too small to see or hit.

He's the guy who discovered the Microverse exists (you know, the home of the Micronauts?) and he is ridiculously brilliant. He has done a lot more than the Ant-Man helmet and Pym Particles.

Yes, he can communicate with ants, but that's actually a pretty nifty power. Using that power, he has given Doctor Doom a run for his money. He has kept the Hulk at bay. He has given the Beyonder a rash. (Okay, I made up that last one, but still...)

In Marvel, you've got a few different genius super-scientists:

Reed Richards, the biggest brain of them all. Unfortunately, he's also a dick who sometimes lacks empathy.

Tony Stark, a brilliant engineer who also suffers from being something of a dick, though for different reasons (alcoholism, political stance, etc.)

Peter Parker, a talented inventor and chemist who unfortunately spent most of his adult life thus far not applying himself. When he does put his mind to it (or Otto's mind to it) he can do amazing things that rival the works of guys like Pym and Stark.

Henry McCoy, one of the best geneticists and biochemists in the world. Perhaps the smartest guy in the room when we're talking about mutants. Also a skilled engineer, chemist, and jack-of-all-trades. His only weakness is that he's damnably moral and won't cross a lot of lines to achieve the desired goals.

And so ...

Wow, you fail miserably at comparisons.


I think it's Pym's fate to always be in the shadow of all the "bigger" marvel scientists, in the same way Luthor reacts to the Atom showing up in "the Return" episode of JLU to rescue him. If you need some brilliance, he can provide it, but you'll grumble you weren't getting help from one of the other guys Zerocorpse mentioned, minus Spider-man, who always surprises people he has a scientific mind.
 
2013-01-27 08:16:55 PM  
If you want a good portrayal of Hank Pym, check out Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. His story is compacted a bit, but they get the point of Pym, which is that he's a great scientist who has always treated his superhero persona as a secondary effect of his scientific discoveries, but who feels a tremendous amount of responsibility for what he has done as both a scientist and a super hero.

And if you doubt his brilliance, you need only remember that he created Ultron-- Marvel's answer to Brainiac, and one of the most dangerous and powerful villains in the entire Marvel Universe. He also made Jocasta, The Vision, and provided the powers and gadgets which created several other super heroes. He's exceptionally important to the Marvel Universe, and deep down I'm still offended that they made The Avengers with Black Widow and Hawkeye as founding members instead of giving us the duo of Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne.

And I forgot to mention another genius earlier-- T'Challa, the Black Panther. He understands things that even Reed Richards is only just discovering.

I won't mention Amadeus Cho, because his genius is a super power, not natural. Yes, he's among the dozen smartest people on Earth, though.

And I shouldn't insult Hulk fans by forgetting Banner... It's just that he spends more time as Hulk than as Banner, and it's pretty hard to be known for your intellectual achievements when one of them was to make yourself a dangerous gamma beast, and the rest of your time is spent smashing cities with minimal effort.

Villains don't count in this comparison, but if they did I'd say The Leader, Mad Thinker, Arnim Zola, The Green Goblin, The Jackal, Doctor Octopus, The Tinkerer, M.O.D.O.K., Dark Beast, and The Wizard should all be considered when you're talking about guys on Pym's level.

I don't even remember my point, except that it was to say people ignore how awesome Pym is because they discount how important and powerful having a superior brain can be in a world full of people who can punch skyscrapers into scrap.
 
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