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(Mirror.co.uk)   Woman has a rare condition called Body Integrity Identity Disorder which makes her want to roll around in a wheelchair and be paraplegic   (mirror.co.uk) divider line 194
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2013-01-25 06:53:04 PM  
That's not rare. Just go to walmart and I guarantee you'll see one.

media.peopleofwalmart.com
 
2013-01-25 06:53:18 PM  
Hey psychologists... stop enabling attention whores. Thanks.
 
2013-01-25 06:54:03 PM  
The article has to be a fake. If this lady FTA is for real, it's not even funny. Where is this disorder in my DSM? Cos it lists a bunch of other disorders and diseases I bet a medical doctor, neurologist, psychologist or psychiatrist would consider way, way before assigning that disorder to her condition.

Not surprisingly, she is an expert and defender of the appropriateness of the label for her disorder, much like she is a defender of her condition itself.
 
2013-01-25 06:55:38 PM  

Oldiron_79: Ghastly: Oldiron_79: So why don't we let people like this sever their spinal cords? We let TGs mutilate their genitals.

[sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net image 850x499]

What? I'm not saying we shouldn't lets TGs cut off thier junk I'm saying we should let body dismorphics or whatever they are called sever their spines


Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.
 
2013-01-25 06:58:48 PM  

Heamer: Zarquon's Flat Tire: So, what if you stick it in her pooper? Does she pretend not to notice?

As someone who's gone down on a paraplegic, rest assured that not all of them feel nothing below the waist.


i.imgur.com
what the fark am I eating
 
2013-01-25 06:59:14 PM  

there their theyre: Fark Rye For Many Whores: What ever happened to crazy? What ever happened to just "crazy"?

kevra: What the fark is this shiat.

No worse than dudes who want to chop their dongs off an be a woman.


^^^

/or the chicks who want to add one
 
2013-01-25 07:00:27 PM  

skinink: I want to introduce her to the football player from Notre Dame. It would blow his mind to have a disabled girlfriend who's not disabled.


Someone brought this exact situation up in the transsexual thread. Transsexuals get their wish, but everyone else is told they ain't right in the head?

Lame.
 
cjo [TotalFark]
2013-01-25 07:00:37 PM  
As a quadriplegic, I'm getting a kick out of these replies. Or I would be if I could actually move my legs.
 
cjo [TotalFark]
2013-01-25 07:02:17 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Lame.


The lady in the article isn't literally lame. But she wants to be.
 
2013-01-25 07:02:37 PM  

Ghastly: Oldiron_79: So why don't we let people like this sever their spinal cords? We let TGs mutilate their genitals.

[sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net image 850x499]


That ain't trolling. That's truth.
 
2013-01-25 07:05:15 PM  

Ghastly: Oldiron_79: Ghastly: Oldiron_79: So why don't we let people like this sever their spinal cords? We let TGs mutilate their genitals.

[sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net image 850x499]

What? I'm not saying we shouldn't lets TGs cut off thier junk I'm saying we should let body dismorphics or whatever they are called sever their spines

Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.


That's not the point. In this chick's head, she's got a spinal injury. Her brain chemistry tells her that she has a spinal injury and something is wrong that she doesn't have one......... so why not let her make the decisions -- as an adult -- to let her physical self match her brain's image of herself.

Just like with transsexuals.
 
2013-01-25 07:06:55 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Heamer: Zarquon's Flat Tire: So, what if you stick it in her pooper? Does she pretend not to notice?

As someone who's gone down on a paraplegic, rest assured that not all of them feel nothing below the waist.

[i.imgur.com image 725x800]
what the fark am I eating


Seal got a seed stuck in its throat, probably? Poor baby. He needs fish.
 
2013-01-25 07:09:12 PM  
I actually have BIID. It's not what you think it is. It's kind of like the opposite of a phantom limb experienced by an amputee. The wiring in the brain is still there for the limb, even if the limb is missing. BIID is the opposite, part of the brain is missing wiring for part of the body (the right super parietal lobe). The limb feels extra, like it's not supposed to be there as our brains can't fully integrate the sensory data. It can be a rather unpleasant thing... using things like wheelchairs can help relieve discomforting feelings. It does feel a lot like being trapped in the wrong body.
 
2013-01-25 07:10:27 PM  

Oldiron_79: Ghastly: Oldiron_79: So why don't we let people like this sever their spinal cords? We let TGs mutilate their genitals.

[sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net image 850x499]

What? I'm not saying we shouldn't lets TGs cut off thier junk I'm saying we should let body dismorphics or whatever they are called sever their spines


I think the main difference being that the transgendered person doesn't become disabled by the transition. Of course, one could well argue that this sort of mental illness is itself a disability.
 
2013-01-25 07:10:57 PM  
These whackos who are identical to the trannies are just annoying as the people who claim to be allergic to everything and can't stand to touch anything that isn't covered in aluminum foil. Scratch tests usually come back negative except for things like ragweed but they insist that they're allergic to their own children.
 
2013-01-25 07:11:24 PM  

spentmiles: My current girlfriend likes to shiat in the dishwasher before we run it. She says it doesn't matter, like peeing in the shower, but it matters.


This was poetry.
 
2013-01-25 07:13:57 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: skinink: I want to introduce her to the football player from Notre Dame. It would blow his mind to have a disabled girlfriend who's not disabled.

Someone brought this exact situation up in the transsexual thread. Transsexuals get their wish, but everyone else is told they ain't right in the head?

Lame.


I'm a 25-year-old in the body of a sad, sagging middle-aged man. Why is it wrong for me to want a 25 year old body?
 
2013-01-25 07:14:06 PM  

spentmiles: My current girlfriend likes to shiat in the dishwasher before we run it. She says it doesn't matter, like peeing in the shower, but it matters.


My girlfriend insists on puking in the dishwasher before we run it. She not only says it's good for the machine but she's also bulimic.
 
2013-01-25 07:14:29 PM  

Ghastly: Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.


Except chopping off your dick doesn't turn you into a woman. It turns you into a man without a dick. Being mutilated to the point that you can no longer reproduce without mechanical assistance isn't exactly the same as a debilitating spinal injury, but it is still a debilitating injury. If one self-inflicted injury is acceptable, the other is acceptable. Anything less is hypocrisy.
 
2013-01-25 07:16:53 PM  
Some one stuck it in her pooper when she was a kid. Thats why she's so farked up and gay.

End of story.
 
2013-01-25 07:19:35 PM  

DrExplosion: Ghastly: Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.

Except chopping off your dick doesn't turn you into a woman. It turns you into a man without a dick. Being mutilated to the point that you can no longer reproduce without mechanical assistance isn't exactly the same as a debilitating spinal injury, but it is still a debilitating injury. If one self-inflicted injury is acceptable, the other is acceptable. Anything less is hypocrisy.


It sounds like you two disagree on what it means to be a man or a woman.
 
2013-01-25 07:20:12 PM  

TomD9938: FTA : Then, aged 31, Chloe developed fibromyalgia

Imagine that.


Fake paraplegic acquires fake disease. Seems legit.
 
2013-01-25 07:21:10 PM  

obamadidcoke: Some one stuck it in her pooper when she was a kid. Thats why she's so farked up and gay.

End of story.


Hey, be nice, this happens to be a woman I know. She doesn't need any more lies and hatred spread about her.
 
2013-01-25 07:21:22 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: skinink: I want to introduce her to the football player from Notre Dame. It would blow his mind to have a disabled girlfriend who's not disabled.

Someone brought this exact situation up in the transsexual thread. Transsexuals get their wish, but everyone else is told they ain't right in the head?

Lame.


Years ago I read a fascinating article all about healthy people who wish they could be amputees. It described all kinds of case studies of people who suffered from that disorder intentionally jamming their arms into machinery and even one man who chopped off his legs with a log splitter. The article then went on to talk about the ethical implications of doctors who fulfill their requests for amputation, and whether that should be considered criminal. The author came to the conclusion that those patients would give in to their desires one way or another, society just had to decide if they would be allowed to pursue it safely or with log splitters. I wish I still had that article.

/CSB
 
2013-01-25 07:24:47 PM  

meat0918: I thought this was called "Münchausen syndrome"?


I think that has to do with illness.  At first I thought what you were talking about was parents who think their kids are really sick, but now that I think about it I think that's called "Muchausen by proxy".  That's where a parent thinks their kid has all sorts of problems, drags them around to all sorts of specialists, wants special care for them, etc.

These people who have this body identity disorder are pretty messed up.  I remember reading about some that were desperately seeking amputations.  Personally I think someone like that might just crave attention, either way, they should get the proper psychiatric care rather than having their limbs cut off.
 
2013-01-25 07:26:47 PM  
I actually know someone like this. I take it with a grain of salt.
 
2013-01-25 07:28:44 PM  

DrExplosion: Ghastly: Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.

Except chopping off your dick doesn't turn you into a woman. It turns you into a man without a dick. Being mutilated to the point that you can no longer reproduce without mechanical assistance isn't exactly the same as a debilitating spinal injury, but it is still a debilitating injury. If one self-inflicted injury is acceptable, the other is acceptable. Anything less is hypocrisy.


Just so we're clear... you seem to understand that the dick isn't what makes one a man, right? Since otherwise you'd agree that chopping it off makes them not a man anymore.
 
2013-01-25 07:31:08 PM  

JWideman: DrExplosion: Ghastly: Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.

Except chopping off your dick doesn't turn you into a woman. It turns you into a man without a dick. Being mutilated to the point that you can no longer reproduce without mechanical assistance isn't exactly the same as a debilitating spinal injury, but it is still a debilitating injury. If one self-inflicted injury is acceptable, the other is acceptable. Anything less is hypocrisy.

Just so we're clear... you seem to understand that the dick isn't what makes one a man, right? Since otherwise you'd agree that chopping it off makes them not a man anymore.


Wouldn't it be the presence of testes and the presence of testosterone in a biological sense *shrug*
 
2013-01-25 07:33:21 PM  

DrExplosion: Ghastly: Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.

Except chopping off your dick doesn't turn you into a woman. It turns you into a man without a dick. Being mutilated to the point that you can no longer reproduce without mechanical assistance isn't exactly the same as a debilitating spinal injury, but it is still a debilitating injury. If one self-inflicted injury is acceptable, the other is acceptable. Anything less is hypocrisy.


In some cases it goes deeper than "He/she is just farked up in the head." As I'm sure you're aware, a small percentage of people are born with extremely messed up plumbing. They're born with either partial or complete sets of both organs. In cases where the everything is visible at birth, doctors can start treating the problems right away. But in cases where the baby is born with a penis while also having ovaries or a vagina while having testicles inside the abdomen, as well as the hormones associated with both genders, they can go their entire lives suffering from gender identity issues, depression, shame over their bodies having female attributes as well as male without ever knowing why. Some are lucky enough to be properly diagnosed and can be treated with hormone therapy and often chose to go under the knife to remove the parts they can't deal with.

I know this is not the case with all transgender people, but you may want to take it into consideration before you jump to conclusions. Or not. I'm not the police of you
 
2013-01-25 07:34:02 PM  

xkillyourfacex: The article has to be a fake. If this lady FTA is for real, it's not even funny. Where is this disorder in my DSM? Cos it lists a bunch of other disorders and diseases I bet a medical doctor, neurologist, psychologist or psychiatrist would consider way, way before assigning that disorder to her condition.

Not surprisingly, she is an expert and defender of the appropriateness of the label for her disorder, much like she is a defender of her condition itself.


Actually, she was on an episode of Taboo, on NatGeo. She is involved in the pharmaceutical side of Psychiatry.

And she spends a lot of time in her chair. But she also likes to go hiking in the woods.
 
2013-01-25 07:34:28 PM  

aerojockey: illannoyin: /The chafing from the cast gets me soooo hawt!

I originally read that as "the chafing from the cat gets me sooo hawt".


That too.
 
2013-01-25 07:34:33 PM  

KeithLM: meat0918: I thought this was called "Münchausen syndrome"?

I think that has to do with illness.  At first I thought what you were talking about was parents who think their kids are really sick, but now that I think about it I think that's called "Muchausen by proxy".  That's where a parent thinks their kid has all sorts of problems, drags them around to all sorts of specialists, wants special care for them, etc.

These people who have this body identity disorder are pretty messed up.  I remember reading about some that were desperately seeking amputations.  Personally I think someone like that might just crave attention, either way, they should get the proper psychiatric care rather than having their limbs cut off.


The thing about Münchausen is that people with it seek attention by faking an illness. People with BIID tend to keep it a deep dark secret. Very few of us are willing to talk openly about our feelings (for fear of being treated exactly as many on this thread want to treat Chloe). It's also something you live with your whole life, I've always felt like my legs shouldn't be there. I also know my body is perfectly normal. Not all of us seek amputation or surgery. I do not, it's not worth it, even if it is very strange and uncomfortable at times. I also do not lie about having BIID, it's not a secret amongst my family, friends, coworkers, therapists or doctors... none of them think my use a wheelchair is strange and I've never once claimed to be a paraplegic.
 
2013-01-25 07:34:44 PM  

xkillyourfacex: The article has to be a fake. If this lady FTA is for real, it's not even funny.


She's for real all right. She appeared on a tv show about people with crazy obsessions.
 
2013-01-25 07:38:13 PM  

jtown: How is this even allowed? I can see her being a research subject in psychiatry but this is like letting the inmates run the asylum. How can she do objective research in psychiatry when her brain is clearly miswired? It seems unethical for her to work in the field.


We let physicians work in medicine even though they are sometimes ill or injured. We let chefs cook even though they are sometimes hungry. It seems unethical for you to deny a woman her career just because she has a condition that's in the same general field.

Also note that mental health is not a binary proposition. Just like a broken leg and cancer are different, body image disorders and schizophrenia are different. There's no reason to assume that she's "crazy" in any way that's relevant to her career or any other part of her life, outside her desire to be paraplegic (which, as the article points out, she is treating).
 
2013-01-25 07:45:42 PM  

megarian: ElMuerte: illannoyin: What a coincidence my fetish is women who have body integrated identi-whatever disorder!

Here's a picture of my current girlfriend...

[img.chan4chan.com image 850x1275]

/The chafing from the cast gets me soooo hawt!

You can see all of her goods here. NSFW

I have no idea how you came upon this, nor do I want to know... But thank you.

/weirdest non-weird boner?


Iknorite?

/nice pussy
/seat over there
 
xcv
2013-01-25 07:46:00 PM  

Ghastly: Oldiron_79: Ghastly: Oldiron_79: So why don't we let people like this sever their spinal cords? We let TGs mutilate their genitals.

[sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net image 850x499]

What? I'm not saying we shouldn't lets TGs cut off thier junk I'm saying we should let body dismorphics or whatever they are called sever their spines

Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis and large intestine to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.


Worth mentioning that penises usually aren't big enough to make a deep simulated vagina. Surgeons often take intestines attached to the rectum and turn them into artificial vaginas. Intestineginas supposedly feel more authentic since they naturally produce mucus while penisginas are dry without lube.
 
2013-01-25 07:46:36 PM  
She likes to go hiking. She likes to go skiing, That is one confused person.
 
2013-01-25 07:47:01 PM  

dopekitty74: megarian: ElMuerte: illannoyin: What a coincidence my fetish is women who have body integrated identi-whatever disorder!

Here's a picture of my current girlfriend...

[img.chan4chan.com image 850x1275]

/The chafing from the cast gets me soooo hawt!

You can see all of her goods here. NSFW

I have no idea how you came upon this, nor do I want to know... But thank you.

/weirdest non-weird boner?

Iknorite?

/nice pussy
/seat over there


It did look pretty tidy.
 
2013-01-25 07:47:45 PM  

serial arseonist: TomD9938: FTA : Then, aged 31, Chloe developed fibromyalgia

Imagine that.


Fake paraplegic acquires fake disease. Seems legit.


Fibro is NOT fake. My doctor diagnosed me via some sort of points system.

/hurt all the mother-farkin time
 
2013-01-25 07:49:23 PM  
And this, folks, is why I swore I'd never go out with a psych major...and then I did.
What can I say? Batshiat crazy can be fun for a while.

I got out before she started stir frying my cerebral cortex. Boy do I miss her.
 
2013-01-25 07:49:29 PM  

meat0918: I thought this was called "Münchausen syndrome"?


This.
 
2013-01-25 07:50:02 PM  
Now Chloe, a research scientist in psychiatry

To the surprise of no one.
 
2013-01-25 07:50:17 PM  

xcv: Worth mentioning that penises usually aren't big enough to make a deep simulated vagina. Surgeons often take intestines attached to the rectum and turn them into artificial vaginas. Intestineginas supposedly feel more authentic since they naturally produce mucus while penisginas are dry without lube.


cdn3.hark.com
 
2013-01-25 07:51:17 PM  

xcv: Worth mentioning that penises usually aren't big enough to make a deep simulated vagina.


Uh, I've got some Brazilian tranny porn here that contradic(heh)ts that notion. Some of these trannies are swinging enough pipe to make a vagina and have enough left over to give me a decent penis.
 
2013-01-25 07:51:53 PM  

Matthew Keene: xcv: Worth mentioning that penises usually aren't big enough to make a deep simulated vagina. Surgeons often take intestines attached to the rectum and turn them into artificial vaginas. Intestineginas supposedly feel more authentic since they naturally produce mucus while penisginas are dry without lube.

[cdn3.hark.com image 561x370]


This @_@
 
2013-01-25 07:52:33 PM  

sloshed_again: She likes to go hiking. She likes to go skiing, That is one confused person.


Yes, having BIID is very confusing. Knowing full well your body is normal, enjoying many able bodied activities. Yet part of your body feels strange, wrong and unwanted. It's a very strange dichotomy.
 
2013-01-25 07:54:54 PM  

pxlboy: Wouldn't it be the presence of testes and the presence of testosterone in a biological sense *shrug*


As with most things, it's not nearly that simple. For example, there are people with "female" sex attributes that also have testes and produce testosterone at normal "male" levels. This occurs with androgen insensitivity, for example, wherein testosterone is produced normally but is not consumed. Eventually it breaks down into estrogen, which triggers development of female attributes.

Gender is not fundamentally a binary proposition in biology; our common conception of it is binary, but that's just a social construct, like "race". I'm not saying there aren't physical bits related to gender -- sexual reproduction often (but not necessarily) leads to sexual dimorphism -- but there's no underlying reason why there must be exactly 2 genders, or that gender must be permanent over an organism's life, or any of the other ideas we have traditionally attached to the concept. There are many examples in humans and other organisms that do not fit well into a binary gender labeling system no matter where you draw the line; arguing about the basis of gender is just as silly as arguing about what makes a person "black".
 
2013-01-25 07:56:57 PM  

halotosis: sloshed_again: She likes to go hiking. She likes to go skiing, That is one confused person.

Yes, having BIID is very confusing. Knowing full well your body is normal, enjoying many able bodied activities. Yet part of your body feels strange, wrong and unwanted. It's a very strange dichotomy.


Sorry you have to deal with that. It sounds like a massive mind-fu*k at the very least.

/hugs
 
2013-01-25 07:59:55 PM  
Maybe if someone shot her with the venom of some South American monkey blowfish lizard, something that would paralyze her for like 24 hours, it might scare her straight.
 
2013-01-25 08:00:32 PM  
Yes, having BIID is very confusing. Knowing full well your body is normal, enjoying many able bodied activities. Yet part of your body feels strange, wrong and unwanted. It's a very strange dichotomy.

Wouldn't it be better to compromise. I would like to sit all day at work but that doesn't happen.
 
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