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2013-01-25 05:43:02 PM
So, what if you stick it in her pooper? Does she pretend not to notice?
 
2013-01-25 05:48:17 PM
madeinhead.org
 
2013-01-25 05:55:06 PM
don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby
 
2013-01-25 05:56:07 PM
Not bad but the one I like is "split personality disorder" as most people know it. Within the same body, one may be paralyzed, another may be a diabetic and the original personality perfectly healthy.
 
2013-01-25 05:56:39 PM
What ever happened to crazy? What ever happened to just "crazy"?
 
2013-01-25 05:57:08 PM
I thought this was called "Münchausen syndrome"?
 
2013-01-25 05:59:06 PM
What the fark is this shiat.
 
2013-01-25 06:00:51 PM
I have Euthanize The Mad disorder. It's evolution disguised as an unspeakable opinion.
 
2013-01-25 06:01:27 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: What ever happened to crazy? What ever happened to just "crazy"?


kevra: What the fark is this shiat.


No worse than dudes who want to chop their dongs off an be a woman.
In other words, crazy...
 
2013-01-25 06:01:29 PM
There are people who desparately want to be amputees, too. I don't get it.

I wish to be stronger, hotter, and have George Clooney on speed dial.

I don't know who is crazier, but at least I don't have to go looking for a ramp to go upstairs.
 
2013-01-25 06:03:03 PM

meat0918: I thought this was called "Münchausen syndrome"?


It looks like there's actual neurology behind this, which makes sense since most people have urges to stop themselves from doing anything stupid--and I've heard of this disorder, it showed up in my psych textbooks. Basically, the brain thinks limbs are foreign objects and goes 'WTF get rid of this shiat! I'm supposed to be limbless here!'.

However, it really looks like she's also got psychological issues from her aunt's problems, so she's got a mix.

/Glad she's getting help
//This is fascinating as hell.
 
2013-01-25 06:03:54 PM

meat0918: I thought this was called "Münchausen syndrome"?


I thought it was Joey Ramone Syndrome.
 
2013-01-25 06:04:03 PM
I want to introduce her to the football player from Notre Dame. It would blow his mind to have a disabled girlfriend who's not disabled.
 
2013-01-25 06:04:57 PM
Now Chloe, a research scientist in psychiatry, chooses to live her life on four wheels, pretending to be paralysed.

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2013-01-25 06:05:01 PM
"It was at that point that I realised I was just as likely to break my neck as I was to break my back and end up quadriplegic - totally paralysed, which I did not want," she says.

Because wanting to be quadriplegic would just be CRAZY.
 
2013-01-25 06:06:04 PM
That woman is all farked up. And a psychiatric scientist, whatever that is. I'll bet her insights into teh crazy are real gems.
 
2013-01-25 06:06:44 PM
No...she doesn't.
 
2013-01-25 06:06:59 PM
Next time I see her outside I'll point a rabid bear in her direction ... let's see how committed she is.
 
2013-01-25 06:07:24 PM
I have Call BS Disorder. It makes me want to cockslap people with goofy made-up psych problems.
 
2013-01-25 06:07:33 PM
A pair of shoes could last her a lifetime.
 
2013-01-25 06:07:45 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: So, what if you stick it in her pooper? Does she pretend not to notice?


As someone who's gone down on a paraplegic, rest assured that not all of them feel nothing below the waist.
 
2013-01-25 06:07:48 PM
not to be that guy that says old, but this woman was featured on NatGeo's show called Taboo almost a year ago. it was very interesting...
 
2013-01-25 06:08:49 PM

fusillade762: "It was at that point that I realised I was just as likely to break my neck as I was to break my back and end up quadriplegic - totally paralysed, which I did not want," she says.

Because wanting to be quadriplegic would just be CRAZY.


does she shiat into a bag too?
 
2013-01-25 06:09:22 PM

rezaxis: That woman is all farked up. And a psychiatric scientist, whatever that is. I'll bet her insights into teh crazy are real gems.


I wonder if they cringe at stories like this?
 
2013-01-25 06:09:49 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: What ever happened to crazy? What ever happened to just "crazy"?


A few centuries back, we realized that you can employ scientific methods to study things, allowing professionals to differentiate various kinds of disorders, some even of the psychological variety.

You'll also be pleased to know that the cold you caught a while back wasn't the result of miasma affecting your humors, or the "Evil Eye" you got from some other Farker in another thread.
 
2013-01-25 06:10:15 PM
i.thestar.com

Approves.
 
2013-01-25 06:10:30 PM
So we can add this to things all the people are buzzing around Walmart in scooters say they have and that's why they cant walk
 
2013-01-25 06:11:26 PM
As Chloe got older she realised her desires were vastly different to those of her friends, so she decided to keep it a secret even from her parents Harold, who was a psychotherapist, and Marjorie, a secretary, who have both since died.

I'm sure this has nothing to do with her being screwed up.

Major in engineering, and your kids will grow up to be engineers. Major in psychology, and your kids will grow up to be patients.
 
2013-01-25 06:11:57 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: So, what if you stick it in her pooper? Does she pretend not to notice?


What if YOU stick it in her pooper? Does she pretend to notice?


On a different note, she has nice legs. The kind of legs that I would chop off, preserve with plastination, and hang up on the walls of my bunker. She just needs to call me and I'm going.
 
2013-01-25 06:13:01 PM
This is the same disorder middle-aged men suffer from. You know, with the bald spot, the gut, the sagging skin, jowls and extra chins but is convinced he's in better shape than at 20....
 
2013-01-25 06:15:17 PM
Meh. She's just doing it for the handicapped parking sticker.
 
2013-01-25 06:20:19 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: This is the same disorder middle-aged men suffer from. You know, with the bald spot, the gut, the sagging skin, jowls and extra chins but is convinced he's in better shape than at 20....


HEY! I resemble that remark !
 
2013-01-25 06:22:30 PM
My current girlfriend likes to shiat in the dishwasher before we run it. She says it doesn't matter, like peeing in the shower, but it matters.
 
2013-01-25 06:23:03 PM
What an AW.

She's got a semi-hot girlfriend, though.
 
2013-01-25 06:23:34 PM

Mad Scientist: Meh. She's just doing it for the handicapped parking sticker.


Isn't that a t-shirthell.com gem?
 
2013-01-25 06:24:45 PM

Cagey B: A few centuries back, we realized that you can employ scientific methods to study things, allowing professionals to differentiate various kinds of disorders, some even of the psychological variety.

You'll also be pleased to know that the cold you caught a while back wasn't the result of miasma affecting your humors, or the "Evil Eye" you got from some other Farker in another thread.


Except that's not what this is. Sometimes crazy just needs an outlet - had her childhood drama involved yellow crayons shoved up the ear, that's what she'd be doing. What the fetish (for lack of a better word) itself is, is irrelevant - her real "condition" is quite common. She does self-harm in a manner related to a traumatic event - to give it a special label based on the specific type of self-harm is more than just idiotic, it is intellectually dishonest.
 
2013-01-25 06:25:39 PM
So why don't we let people like this sever their spinal cords? We let TGs mutilate their genitals.
 
2013-01-25 06:27:45 PM

spentmiles: My current girlfriend likes to shiat in the dishwasher before we run it. She says it doesn't matter, like peeing in the shower, but it matters.


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They're all the same pipes! What difference does it make!
 
2013-01-25 06:29:02 PM
24.media.tumblr.com

farkin' way she goes boys
 
2013-01-25 06:29:47 PM

eagles95: So we can add this to things all the people are buzzing around Walmart in scooters say they have and that's why they cant walk


The people at Walmart have Muncheverything Syndrome.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-25 06:30:27 PM
Matthew Keene: eagles95: So we can add this to things all the people are buzzing around Walmart in scooters say they have and that's why they cant walk

The people at Walmart have Muncheverything Syndrome.

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Is that the motorcycle twins?
 
2013-01-25 06:33:16 PM

Oldiron_79: So why don't we let people like this sever their spinal cords? We let TGs mutilate their genitals.


sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2013-01-25 06:33:37 PM
ahh yes, the institute of made up diseases
 
2013-01-25 06:33:57 PM
Now Chloe, a research scientist in psychiatry, chooses to live her life on four wheels, pretending to be paralysed.

How is this even allowed? I can see her being a research subject in psychiatry but this is like letting the inmates run the asylum. How can she do objective research in psychiatry when her brain is clearly miswired? It seems unethical for her to work in the field.
 
2013-01-25 06:34:34 PM

spentmiles: My current girlfriend likes to shiat in the dishwasher before we run it. She says it doesn't matter, like peeing in the shower, but it matters.


It doesn't matter. The food that's getting rinsed from the dishes is just an earlier version of the deposit.
 
2013-01-25 06:34:50 PM
FTA : Then, aged 31, Chloe developed fibromyalgia

Imagine that.

thisiszombocom: what could you possibly have done to yourself to need a cast like that?


A friends daughter broke her femur and ended up rigged into that same sort of cast.
 
2013-01-25 06:35:35 PM

Saberus Terras: What an AW.

She's got a semi-hot girlfriend, though.


Which only goes to show that Psycho always gets a relationship. Be normal and people avoid you like the plague.
 
2013-01-25 06:38:02 PM

Cagey B: Fark Rye For Many Whores: What ever happened to crazy? What ever happened to just "crazy"?

A few centuries back, we realized that you can employ scientific methods to study things, allowing professionals to differentiate various kinds of disorders, some even of the psychological variety.

You'll also be pleased to know that the cold you caught a while back wasn't the result of miasma affecting your humors, or the "Evil Eye" you got from some other Farker in another thread.



Whatever, dude. Once I get my thetans removed, I'll be right as rain
 
2013-01-25 06:40:02 PM
Ghastly: Oldiron_79: So why don't we let people like this sever their spinal cords? We let TGs mutilate their genitals.

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What? I'm not saying we shouldn't lets TGs cut off thier junk I'm saying we should let body dismorphics or whatever they are called sever their spines
 
2013-01-25 06:51:30 PM
"I've been told that if I continue to do both activities then I'm at high risk of becoming paraplegic - hence my motivation to keep doing them."

As one who has spent 50 of my 51 years on this planet in a wheelchair because of my fugged up spine, I just......I can't comprehend.

I am seriously at a loss for words.
 
2013-01-25 06:53:04 PM
That's not rare. Just go to walmart and I guarantee you'll see one.

media.peopleofwalmart.com
 
2013-01-25 06:53:18 PM
Hey psychologists... stop enabling attention whores. Thanks.
 
2013-01-25 06:54:03 PM
The article has to be a fake. If this lady FTA is for real, it's not even funny. Where is this disorder in my DSM? Cos it lists a bunch of other disorders and diseases I bet a medical doctor, neurologist, psychologist or psychiatrist would consider way, way before assigning that disorder to her condition.

Not surprisingly, she is an expert and defender of the appropriateness of the label for her disorder, much like she is a defender of her condition itself.
 
2013-01-25 06:55:38 PM

Oldiron_79: Ghastly: Oldiron_79: So why don't we let people like this sever their spinal cords? We let TGs mutilate their genitals.

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What? I'm not saying we shouldn't lets TGs cut off thier junk I'm saying we should let body dismorphics or whatever they are called sever their spines


Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.
 
2013-01-25 06:58:48 PM

Heamer: Zarquon's Flat Tire: So, what if you stick it in her pooper? Does she pretend not to notice?

As someone who's gone down on a paraplegic, rest assured that not all of them feel nothing below the waist.


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what the fark am I eating
 
2013-01-25 06:59:14 PM

there their theyre: Fark Rye For Many Whores: What ever happened to crazy? What ever happened to just "crazy"?

kevra: What the fark is this shiat.

No worse than dudes who want to chop their dongs off an be a woman.


^^^

/or the chicks who want to add one
 
2013-01-25 07:00:27 PM

skinink: I want to introduce her to the football player from Notre Dame. It would blow his mind to have a disabled girlfriend who's not disabled.


Someone brought this exact situation up in the transsexual thread. Transsexuals get their wish, but everyone else is told they ain't right in the head?

Lame.
 
cjo [TotalFark]
2013-01-25 07:00:37 PM
As a quadriplegic, I'm getting a kick out of these replies. Or I would be if I could actually move my legs.
 
cjo [TotalFark]
2013-01-25 07:02:17 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Lame.


The lady in the article isn't literally lame. But she wants to be.
 
2013-01-25 07:02:37 PM

Ghastly: Oldiron_79: So why don't we let people like this sever their spinal cords? We let TGs mutilate their genitals.

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That ain't trolling. That's truth.
 
2013-01-25 07:05:15 PM

Ghastly: Oldiron_79: Ghastly: Oldiron_79: So why don't we let people like this sever their spinal cords? We let TGs mutilate their genitals.

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What? I'm not saying we shouldn't lets TGs cut off thier junk I'm saying we should let body dismorphics or whatever they are called sever their spines

Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.


That's not the point. In this chick's head, she's got a spinal injury. Her brain chemistry tells her that she has a spinal injury and something is wrong that she doesn't have one......... so why not let her make the decisions -- as an adult -- to let her physical self match her brain's image of herself.

Just like with transsexuals.
 
2013-01-25 07:06:55 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Heamer: Zarquon's Flat Tire: So, what if you stick it in her pooper? Does she pretend not to notice?

As someone who's gone down on a paraplegic, rest assured that not all of them feel nothing below the waist.

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what the fark am I eating


Seal got a seed stuck in its throat, probably? Poor baby. He needs fish.
 
2013-01-25 07:09:12 PM
I actually have BIID. It's not what you think it is. It's kind of like the opposite of a phantom limb experienced by an amputee. The wiring in the brain is still there for the limb, even if the limb is missing. BIID is the opposite, part of the brain is missing wiring for part of the body (the right super parietal lobe). The limb feels extra, like it's not supposed to be there as our brains can't fully integrate the sensory data. It can be a rather unpleasant thing... using things like wheelchairs can help relieve discomforting feelings. It does feel a lot like being trapped in the wrong body.
 
2013-01-25 07:10:27 PM

Oldiron_79: Ghastly: Oldiron_79: So why don't we let people like this sever their spinal cords? We let TGs mutilate their genitals.

[sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net image 850x499]

What? I'm not saying we shouldn't lets TGs cut off thier junk I'm saying we should let body dismorphics or whatever they are called sever their spines


I think the main difference being that the transgendered person doesn't become disabled by the transition. Of course, one could well argue that this sort of mental illness is itself a disability.
 
2013-01-25 07:10:57 PM
These whackos who are identical to the trannies are just annoying as the people who claim to be allergic to everything and can't stand to touch anything that isn't covered in aluminum foil. Scratch tests usually come back negative except for things like ragweed but they insist that they're allergic to their own children.
 
2013-01-25 07:11:24 PM

spentmiles: My current girlfriend likes to shiat in the dishwasher before we run it. She says it doesn't matter, like peeing in the shower, but it matters.


This was poetry.
 
2013-01-25 07:13:57 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: skinink: I want to introduce her to the football player from Notre Dame. It would blow his mind to have a disabled girlfriend who's not disabled.

Someone brought this exact situation up in the transsexual thread. Transsexuals get their wish, but everyone else is told they ain't right in the head?

Lame.


I'm a 25-year-old in the body of a sad, sagging middle-aged man. Why is it wrong for me to want a 25 year old body?
 
2013-01-25 07:14:06 PM

spentmiles: My current girlfriend likes to shiat in the dishwasher before we run it. She says it doesn't matter, like peeing in the shower, but it matters.


My girlfriend insists on puking in the dishwasher before we run it. She not only says it's good for the machine but she's also bulimic.
 
2013-01-25 07:14:29 PM

Ghastly: Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.


Except chopping off your dick doesn't turn you into a woman. It turns you into a man without a dick. Being mutilated to the point that you can no longer reproduce without mechanical assistance isn't exactly the same as a debilitating spinal injury, but it is still a debilitating injury. If one self-inflicted injury is acceptable, the other is acceptable. Anything less is hypocrisy.
 
2013-01-25 07:16:53 PM
Some one stuck it in her pooper when she was a kid. Thats why she's so farked up and gay.

End of story.
 
2013-01-25 07:19:35 PM

DrExplosion: Ghastly: Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.

Except chopping off your dick doesn't turn you into a woman. It turns you into a man without a dick. Being mutilated to the point that you can no longer reproduce without mechanical assistance isn't exactly the same as a debilitating spinal injury, but it is still a debilitating injury. If one self-inflicted injury is acceptable, the other is acceptable. Anything less is hypocrisy.


It sounds like you two disagree on what it means to be a man or a woman.
 
2013-01-25 07:20:12 PM

TomD9938: FTA : Then, aged 31, Chloe developed fibromyalgia

Imagine that.


Fake paraplegic acquires fake disease. Seems legit.
 
2013-01-25 07:21:10 PM

obamadidcoke: Some one stuck it in her pooper when she was a kid. Thats why she's so farked up and gay.

End of story.


Hey, be nice, this happens to be a woman I know. She doesn't need any more lies and hatred spread about her.
 
2013-01-25 07:21:22 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: skinink: I want to introduce her to the football player from Notre Dame. It would blow his mind to have a disabled girlfriend who's not disabled.

Someone brought this exact situation up in the transsexual thread. Transsexuals get their wish, but everyone else is told they ain't right in the head?

Lame.


Years ago I read a fascinating article all about healthy people who wish they could be amputees. It described all kinds of case studies of people who suffered from that disorder intentionally jamming their arms into machinery and even one man who chopped off his legs with a log splitter. The article then went on to talk about the ethical implications of doctors who fulfill their requests for amputation, and whether that should be considered criminal. The author came to the conclusion that those patients would give in to their desires one way or another, society just had to decide if they would be allowed to pursue it safely or with log splitters. I wish I still had that article.

/CSB
 
2013-01-25 07:24:47 PM

meat0918: I thought this was called "Münchausen syndrome"?


I think that has to do with illness.  At first I thought what you were talking about was parents who think their kids are really sick, but now that I think about it I think that's called "Muchausen by proxy".  That's where a parent thinks their kid has all sorts of problems, drags them around to all sorts of specialists, wants special care for them, etc.

These people who have this body identity disorder are pretty messed up.  I remember reading about some that were desperately seeking amputations.  Personally I think someone like that might just crave attention, either way, they should get the proper psychiatric care rather than having their limbs cut off.
 
2013-01-25 07:26:47 PM
I actually know someone like this. I take it with a grain of salt.
 
2013-01-25 07:28:44 PM

DrExplosion: Ghastly: Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.

Except chopping off your dick doesn't turn you into a woman. It turns you into a man without a dick. Being mutilated to the point that you can no longer reproduce without mechanical assistance isn't exactly the same as a debilitating spinal injury, but it is still a debilitating injury. If one self-inflicted injury is acceptable, the other is acceptable. Anything less is hypocrisy.


Just so we're clear... you seem to understand that the dick isn't what makes one a man, right? Since otherwise you'd agree that chopping it off makes them not a man anymore.
 
2013-01-25 07:31:08 PM

JWideman: DrExplosion: Ghastly: Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.

Except chopping off your dick doesn't turn you into a woman. It turns you into a man without a dick. Being mutilated to the point that you can no longer reproduce without mechanical assistance isn't exactly the same as a debilitating spinal injury, but it is still a debilitating injury. If one self-inflicted injury is acceptable, the other is acceptable. Anything less is hypocrisy.

Just so we're clear... you seem to understand that the dick isn't what makes one a man, right? Since otherwise you'd agree that chopping it off makes them not a man anymore.


Wouldn't it be the presence of testes and the presence of testosterone in a biological sense *shrug*
 
2013-01-25 07:33:21 PM

DrExplosion: Ghastly: Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.

Except chopping off your dick doesn't turn you into a woman. It turns you into a man without a dick. Being mutilated to the point that you can no longer reproduce without mechanical assistance isn't exactly the same as a debilitating spinal injury, but it is still a debilitating injury. If one self-inflicted injury is acceptable, the other is acceptable. Anything less is hypocrisy.


In some cases it goes deeper than "He/she is just farked up in the head." As I'm sure you're aware, a small percentage of people are born with extremely messed up plumbing. They're born with either partial or complete sets of both organs. In cases where the everything is visible at birth, doctors can start treating the problems right away. But in cases where the baby is born with a penis while also having ovaries or a vagina while having testicles inside the abdomen, as well as the hormones associated with both genders, they can go their entire lives suffering from gender identity issues, depression, shame over their bodies having female attributes as well as male without ever knowing why. Some are lucky enough to be properly diagnosed and can be treated with hormone therapy and often chose to go under the knife to remove the parts they can't deal with.

I know this is not the case with all transgender people, but you may want to take it into consideration before you jump to conclusions. Or not. I'm not the police of you
 
2013-01-25 07:34:02 PM

xkillyourfacex: The article has to be a fake. If this lady FTA is for real, it's not even funny. Where is this disorder in my DSM? Cos it lists a bunch of other disorders and diseases I bet a medical doctor, neurologist, psychologist or psychiatrist would consider way, way before assigning that disorder to her condition.

Not surprisingly, she is an expert and defender of the appropriateness of the label for her disorder, much like she is a defender of her condition itself.


Actually, she was on an episode of Taboo, on NatGeo. She is involved in the pharmaceutical side of Psychiatry.

And she spends a lot of time in her chair. But she also likes to go hiking in the woods.
 
2013-01-25 07:34:28 PM

aerojockey: illannoyin: /The chafing from the cast gets me soooo hawt!

I originally read that as "the chafing from the cat gets me sooo hawt".


That too.
 
2013-01-25 07:34:33 PM

KeithLM: meat0918: I thought this was called "Münchausen syndrome"?

I think that has to do with illness.  At first I thought what you were talking about was parents who think their kids are really sick, but now that I think about it I think that's called "Muchausen by proxy".  That's where a parent thinks their kid has all sorts of problems, drags them around to all sorts of specialists, wants special care for them, etc.

These people who have this body identity disorder are pretty messed up.  I remember reading about some that were desperately seeking amputations.  Personally I think someone like that might just crave attention, either way, they should get the proper psychiatric care rather than having their limbs cut off.


The thing about Münchausen is that people with it seek attention by faking an illness. People with BIID tend to keep it a deep dark secret. Very few of us are willing to talk openly about our feelings (for fear of being treated exactly as many on this thread want to treat Chloe). It's also something you live with your whole life, I've always felt like my legs shouldn't be there. I also know my body is perfectly normal. Not all of us seek amputation or surgery. I do not, it's not worth it, even if it is very strange and uncomfortable at times. I also do not lie about having BIID, it's not a secret amongst my family, friends, coworkers, therapists or doctors... none of them think my use a wheelchair is strange and I've never once claimed to be a paraplegic.
 
2013-01-25 07:34:44 PM

xkillyourfacex: The article has to be a fake. If this lady FTA is for real, it's not even funny.


She's for real all right. She appeared on a tv show about people with crazy obsessions.
 
2013-01-25 07:38:13 PM

jtown: How is this even allowed? I can see her being a research subject in psychiatry but this is like letting the inmates run the asylum. How can she do objective research in psychiatry when her brain is clearly miswired? It seems unethical for her to work in the field.


We let physicians work in medicine even though they are sometimes ill or injured. We let chefs cook even though they are sometimes hungry. It seems unethical for you to deny a woman her career just because she has a condition that's in the same general field.

Also note that mental health is not a binary proposition. Just like a broken leg and cancer are different, body image disorders and schizophrenia are different. There's no reason to assume that she's "crazy" in any way that's relevant to her career or any other part of her life, outside her desire to be paraplegic (which, as the article points out, she is treating).
 
2013-01-25 07:45:42 PM

megarian: ElMuerte: illannoyin: What a coincidence my fetish is women who have body integrated identi-whatever disorder!

Here's a picture of my current girlfriend...

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/The chafing from the cast gets me soooo hawt!

You can see all of her goods here. NSFW

I have no idea how you came upon this, nor do I want to know... But thank you.

/weirdest non-weird boner?


Iknorite?

/nice pussy
/seat over there
 
xcv
2013-01-25 07:46:00 PM

Ghastly: Oldiron_79: Ghastly: Oldiron_79: So why don't we let people like this sever their spinal cords? We let TGs mutilate their genitals.

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What? I'm not saying we shouldn't lets TGs cut off thier junk I'm saying we should let body dismorphics or whatever they are called sever their spines

Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis and large intestine to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.


Worth mentioning that penises usually aren't big enough to make a deep simulated vagina. Surgeons often take intestines attached to the rectum and turn them into artificial vaginas. Intestineginas supposedly feel more authentic since they naturally produce mucus while penisginas are dry without lube.
 
2013-01-25 07:46:36 PM
She likes to go hiking. She likes to go skiing, That is one confused person.
 
2013-01-25 07:47:01 PM

dopekitty74: megarian: ElMuerte: illannoyin: What a coincidence my fetish is women who have body integrated identi-whatever disorder!

Here's a picture of my current girlfriend...

[img.chan4chan.com image 850x1275]

/The chafing from the cast gets me soooo hawt!

You can see all of her goods here. NSFW

I have no idea how you came upon this, nor do I want to know... But thank you.

/weirdest non-weird boner?

Iknorite?

/nice pussy
/seat over there


It did look pretty tidy.
 
2013-01-25 07:47:45 PM

serial arseonist: TomD9938: FTA : Then, aged 31, Chloe developed fibromyalgia

Imagine that.


Fake paraplegic acquires fake disease. Seems legit.


Fibro is NOT fake. My doctor diagnosed me via some sort of points system.

/hurt all the mother-farkin time
 
2013-01-25 07:49:23 PM
And this, folks, is why I swore I'd never go out with a psych major...and then I did.
What can I say? Batshiat crazy can be fun for a while.

I got out before she started stir frying my cerebral cortex. Boy do I miss her.
 
2013-01-25 07:49:29 PM

meat0918: I thought this was called "Münchausen syndrome"?


This.
 
2013-01-25 07:50:02 PM
Now Chloe, a research scientist in psychiatry

To the surprise of no one.
 
2013-01-25 07:50:17 PM

xcv: Worth mentioning that penises usually aren't big enough to make a deep simulated vagina. Surgeons often take intestines attached to the rectum and turn them into artificial vaginas. Intestineginas supposedly feel more authentic since they naturally produce mucus while penisginas are dry without lube.


cdn3.hark.com
 
2013-01-25 07:51:17 PM

xcv: Worth mentioning that penises usually aren't big enough to make a deep simulated vagina.


Uh, I've got some Brazilian tranny porn here that contradic(heh)ts that notion. Some of these trannies are swinging enough pipe to make a vagina and have enough left over to give me a decent penis.
 
2013-01-25 07:51:53 PM

Matthew Keene: xcv: Worth mentioning that penises usually aren't big enough to make a deep simulated vagina. Surgeons often take intestines attached to the rectum and turn them into artificial vaginas. Intestineginas supposedly feel more authentic since they naturally produce mucus while penisginas are dry without lube.

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This @_@
 
2013-01-25 07:52:33 PM

sloshed_again: She likes to go hiking. She likes to go skiing, That is one confused person.


Yes, having BIID is very confusing. Knowing full well your body is normal, enjoying many able bodied activities. Yet part of your body feels strange, wrong and unwanted. It's a very strange dichotomy.
 
2013-01-25 07:54:54 PM

pxlboy: Wouldn't it be the presence of testes and the presence of testosterone in a biological sense *shrug*


As with most things, it's not nearly that simple. For example, there are people with "female" sex attributes that also have testes and produce testosterone at normal "male" levels. This occurs with androgen insensitivity, for example, wherein testosterone is produced normally but is not consumed. Eventually it breaks down into estrogen, which triggers development of female attributes.

Gender is not fundamentally a binary proposition in biology; our common conception of it is binary, but that's just a social construct, like "race". I'm not saying there aren't physical bits related to gender -- sexual reproduction often (but not necessarily) leads to sexual dimorphism -- but there's no underlying reason why there must be exactly 2 genders, or that gender must be permanent over an organism's life, or any of the other ideas we have traditionally attached to the concept. There are many examples in humans and other organisms that do not fit well into a binary gender labeling system no matter where you draw the line; arguing about the basis of gender is just as silly as arguing about what makes a person "black".
 
2013-01-25 07:56:57 PM

halotosis: sloshed_again: She likes to go hiking. She likes to go skiing, That is one confused person.

Yes, having BIID is very confusing. Knowing full well your body is normal, enjoying many able bodied activities. Yet part of your body feels strange, wrong and unwanted. It's a very strange dichotomy.


Sorry you have to deal with that. It sounds like a massive mind-fu*k at the very least.

/hugs
 
2013-01-25 07:59:55 PM
Maybe if someone shot her with the venom of some South American monkey blowfish lizard, something that would paralyze her for like 24 hours, it might scare her straight.
 
2013-01-25 08:00:32 PM
Yes, having BIID is very confusing. Knowing full well your body is normal, enjoying many able bodied activities. Yet part of your body feels strange, wrong and unwanted. It's a very strange dichotomy.

Wouldn't it be better to compromise. I would like to sit all day at work but that doesn't happen.
 
2013-01-25 08:01:13 PM

dopekitty74: halotosis: sloshed_again: She likes to go hiking. She likes to go skiing, That is one confused person.

Yes, having BIID is very confusing. Knowing full well your body is normal, enjoying many able bodied activities. Yet part of your body feels strange, wrong and unwanted. It's a very strange dichotomy.

Sorry you have to deal with that. It sounds like a massive mind-fu*k at the very least.

/hugs


It's just something I got chosen to live with. Caused me a lot of distress growing up, but now it's just annoying. I'd just like to see the misinformation and prejudice go away. Makes me sad every time I hear about someone doing something drastic and hurting themselves. It doesn't have to be that way.
 
2013-01-25 08:03:14 PM
As always it's good to see the ignorant & close-minded brigade is out in full force. The same people who have so much to say about people who have opposing political or social subject views just shut right down when presented with one of life's anomalies.

People are very complex creatures and we are not all wired the same. It wasn't all that long ago that school children were forced to print with their right hand, people with two different color eyes were thought to be cursed and homosexuality was considered a mental health problem.

But what are you going to do. Adults like yourselves who should know better can't blame it on your stupid parents or your lack of education. You're just morans, plain and simple. If you were half human you would be happy you're not in this woman's shoes and you would afford her some sympathy and empathy.
 
2013-01-25 08:05:58 PM
First-world people problems. Ship this stupid biatch to South Sudan for a few weeks and see how long this 'disorder' persists. Leave it to a British tabloid to elevate this idiocy to the level of an actual ailment.
 
2013-01-25 08:08:08 PM
On a side note, Ray Bradbury wrote a story titled "Skeleton" that is somewhat relevant to this story
 
2013-01-25 08:09:38 PM

halotosis: KeithLM: meat0918: I thought this was called "Münchausen syndrome"?

I think that has to do with illness.  At first I thought what you were talking about was parents who think their kids are really sick, but now that I think about it I think that's called "Muchausen by proxy".  That's where a parent thinks their kid has all sorts of problems, drags them around to all sorts of specialists, wants special care for them, etc.

These people who have this body identity disorder are pretty messed up.  I remember reading about some that were desperately seeking amputations.  Personally I think someone like that might just crave attention, either way, they should get the proper psychiatric care rather than having their limbs cut off.

The thing about Münchausen is that people with it seek attention by faking an illness. People with BIID tend to keep it a deep dark secret. Very few of us are willing to talk openly about our feelings (for fear of being treated exactly as many on this thread want to treat Chloe). It's also something you live with your whole life, I've always felt like my legs shouldn't be there. I also know my body is perfectly normal. Not all of us seek amputation or surgery. I do not, it's not worth it, even if it is very strange and uncomfortable at times. I also do not lie about having BIID, it's not a secret amongst my family, friends, coworkers, therapists or doctors... none of them think my use a wheelchair is strange and I've never once claimed to be a paraplegic.


Most people assume since they feel a certain way about things that everyone else must be the same way, so rather than understand that some peoples brains are different they assume anything abnormal is just made up.

Yes, there are people who make up psychiatric conditions, but they usually have another condition that causes the faked one in my experience.
 
2013-01-25 08:10:36 PM

IamAwake: Cagey B: A few centuries back, we realized that you can employ scientific methods to study things, allowing professionals to differentiate various kinds of disorders, some even of the psychological variety.

You'll also be pleased to know that the cold you caught a while back wasn't the result of miasma affecting your humors, or the "Evil Eye" you got from some other Farker in another thread.

Except that's not what this is. Sometimes crazy just needs an outlet - had her childhood drama involved yellow crayons shoved up the ear, that's what she'd be doing. What the fetish (for lack of a better word) itself is, is irrelevant - her real "condition" is quite common. She does self-harm in a manner related to a traumatic event - to give it a special label based on the specific type of self-harm is more than just idiotic, it is intellectually dishonest.


There's been actual research done on this by actual scientists, but clearly you know better because you read an article on the internet.
 
2013-01-25 08:11:40 PM

Mega Steve: In some cases it goes deeper than "He/she is just farked up in the head." As I'm sure you're aware, a small percentage of people are born with extremely messed up plumbing. They're born with either partial or complete sets of both organs. In cases where the everything is visible at birth, doctors can start treating the problems right away. But in cases where the baby is born with a penis while also having ovaries or a vagina while having testicles inside the abdomen, as well as the hormones associated with both genders, they can go their entire lives suffering from gender identity issues, depression, shame over their bodies having female attributes as well as male without ever knowing why. Some are lucky enough to be properly diagnosed and can be treated with hormone therapy and often chose to go under the knife to remove the parts they can't deal with.

I know this is not the case with all transgender people, but you may want to take it into consideration before you jump to conclusions. Or not. I'm not the police of you


True, what you're referring to is far from unheard of, and people with such exceptional biology are exceptions to the whole binary gender thing. But for most people, even most transgender people*, you're either male or female. It's immediately apparent at birth, unambiguous, and (to my knowledge) impossible to truly change with the technology currently available. We can change the cosmetic indicators of gender, but for the time being you're stuck with the chromosomes you had at birth and you can't decide to grow your own testicles/ovaries. Until that level of gender reassignment is possible, any post-op transgender person is just pretending to be their "new" gender.

Now, if this is enough to make them happy with who they are and comfortable in their own skin, that's fine with me. I have no business trying to stop them. But a man who acts like a woman, thinks he's a woman, and has undergone surgery and hormone treatments to make himself look like a woman is still a man. He's just a very unusual man.


*In my experience, anyway. I've never seen any data on this point so all I have is anecdotal evidence. If anyone has any data on what portion of transgender people were born with "messed-up plumbing," I'd actually be quite interested in seeing that.
 
2013-01-25 08:13:16 PM
I wonder what Scientology's take on this is?


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2013-01-25 08:13:52 PM

KrispyKritter: As always it's good to see the ignorant & close-minded brigade is out in full force. The same people who have so much to say about people who have opposing political or social subject views just shut right down when presented with one of life's anomalies.

People are very complex creatures and we are not all wired the same. It wasn't all that long ago that school children were forced to print with their right hand, people with two different color eyes were thought to be cursed and homosexuality was considered a mental health problem.

But what are you going to do. Adults like yourselves who should know better can't blame it on your stupid parents or your lack of education. You're just morans, plain and simple. If you were half human you would be happy you're not in this woman's shoes and you would afford her some sympathy and empathy.


It's funny how the post immediately after yours should have probably read your post before looking like another damn fool.
 
2013-01-25 08:13:56 PM
I saw her on Taboo. While I don't doubt this is a real disorder, I think she is a self-indulgent biatch.
 
2013-01-25 08:14:47 PM

KrispyKritter: As always it's good to see the ignorant & close-minded brigade is out in full force. The same people who have so much to say about people who have opposing political or social subject views just shut right down when presented with one of life's anomalies.

People are very complex creatures and we are not all wired the same. It wasn't all that long ago that school children were forced to print with their right hand, people with two different color eyes were thought to be cursed and homosexuality was considered a mental health problem.

But what are you going to do. Adults like yourselves who should know better can't blame it on your stupid parents or your lack of education. You're just morans, plain and simple. If you were half human you would be happy you're not in this woman's shoes and you would afford her some sympathy and empathy.


But we've worked so hard to develop our prejudices! We can't just abandon them like a dead beat dad...unless they have two different colored eyes, of course. Hell, who doesn't keep a crucifix handy just in case they run across one of those? I mean, I'm even atheist...
 
2013-01-25 08:20:39 PM

reklamfox: ExperianScaresCthulhu: skinink: I want to introduce her to the football player from Notre Dame. It would blow his mind to have a disabled girlfriend who's not disabled.

Someone brought this exact situation up in the transsexual thread. Transsexuals get their wish, but everyone else is told they ain't right in the head?

Lame.

Years ago I read a fascinating article all about healthy people who wish they could be amputees. It described all kinds of case studies of people who suffered from that disorder intentionally jamming their arms into machinery and even one man who chopped off his legs with a log splitter. The article then went on to talk about the ethical implications of doctors who fulfill their requests for amputation, and whether that should be considered criminal. The author came to the conclusion that those patients would give in to their desires one way or another, society just had to decide if they would be allowed to pursue it safely or with log splitters. I wish I still had that article.

/CSB


I'd actually rather they do it with log splitters because they're more likely to remove themselves from the gene pool. Are these really people we want breeding? Amputation should only be considered if it's accompanied by sterilization.
 
2013-01-25 08:22:17 PM

profplump: jtown: How is this even allowed? I can see her being a research subject in psychiatry but this is like letting the inmates run the asylum. How can she do objective research in psychiatry when her brain is clearly miswired? It seems unethical for her to work in the field.

We let physicians work in medicine even though they are sometimes ill or injured. We let chefs cook even though they are sometimes hungry. It seems unethical for you to deny a woman her career just because she has a condition that's in the same general field.

Also note that mental health is not a binary proposition. Just like a broken leg and cancer are different, body image disorders and schizophrenia are different. There's no reason to assume that she's "crazy" in any way that's relevant to her career or any other part of her life, outside her desire to be paraplegic (which, as the article points out, she is treating).


There's a huge difference between someone with cancer doing cancer research and someone with a mental disorder doing research on mental disorders.

I expect my psychiatrist to have a sound mind. Just like I expect my surgeon to have hands.
 
2013-01-25 08:22:36 PM

Mugato: Maybe if someone shot her with the venom of some South American monkey blowfish lizard, something that would paralyze her for like 24 hours, it might scare her straight.


I wonder if she's tried spinal blocks. Half a day legitamately in a chair, twice a month just might scratch her itch.

Funny there was no mention of that when we got 10 different descriptions of her flinging herself to the ground in hopes of severing her spinal cord in just the right spot (not too high - not too low).
 
2013-01-25 08:23:15 PM

davidphogan: KrispyKritter: As always it's good to see the ignorant & close-minded brigade is out in full force. The same people who have so much to say about people who have opposing political or social subject views just shut right down when presented with one of life's anomalies.

People are very complex creatures and we are not all wired the same. It wasn't all that long ago that school children were forced to print with their right hand, people with two different color eyes were thought to be cursed and homosexuality was considered a mental health problem.

But what are you going to do. Adults like yourselves who should know better can't blame it on your stupid parents or your lack of education. You're just morans, plain and simple. If you were half human you would be happy you're not in this woman's shoes and you would afford her some sympathy and empathy.

It's funny how the post immediately after yours should have probably read your post before looking like another damn fool.


Except peasants_are_revolting is right.

/First world problems, indeed
 
2013-01-25 08:24:33 PM

meat0918: I thought this was called "Münchausen syndrome"?


Not really. Someone suffering from Munchausen Syndrome doesn't want to be sick, per se: what they want is attention, and pretending to be sick is a means to that end. Someone with BIID actually wants to be sick (or injured, in this case), and pretending to be sick takes the edge off of that.

Or, to put it another way, for a person with Munchausen Syndrome, pretending to be sick is a symptom. For someone with BIID, pretending to be sick is therapy.
 
2013-01-25 08:25:21 PM

Mugato: Maybe if someone shot her with the venom of some South American monkey blowfish lizard, something that would paralyze her for like 24 hours, it might scare her straight.


Just take her to an abandoned warehouse, nail her wheelchair to the floor and start a fire. I think she'll learn to appreciate working legs pretty fast.
 
2013-01-25 08:26:54 PM

Millennium: meat0918: I thought this was called "Münchausen syndrome"?

Not really. Someone suffering from Munchausen Syndrome doesn't want to be sick, per se: what they want is attention, and pretending to be sick is a means to that end. Someone with BIID actually wants to be sick (or injured, in this case), and pretending to be sick takes the edge off of that.

Or, to put it another way, for a person with Munchausen Syndrome, pretending to be sick is a symptom. For someone with BIID, pretending to be sick is therapy.


Kind of like being obsessed with farking ugly fat chicks. Masturbation takes the edge off.
 
2013-01-25 08:29:49 PM
I know this under its other name, BFCS. (Bug-F**k Crazy Syndrome)
 
2013-01-25 08:29:53 PM

dopekitty74: serial arseonist: TomD9938: FTA : Then, aged 31, Chloe developed fibromyalgia

Imagine that.


Fake paraplegic acquires fake disease. Seems legit.

Fibro is NOT fake. My doctor diagnosed me via some sort of points system.

/hurt all the mother-farkin time



Seriously. Fibro is all too real. I had my dream job when I got into a car accident and developed severe fibromyalgia. Now I have severe pain every. single. day. I had to quit working and go on SSD.

Yeah, just what I wanted to do with my life. Fake severe pain and lose my social life and dignity.
Not to mention balance problems, depression, severe night sweats and many other lovely symptoms that come with fibro.

The lady is TFA is prolly going to make her fibro worse by sitting in a wheelchair for long periods of time. You have to stretch and exercise with fibro.

/I'm not overweight btw and overall fit otherwise : (
 
2013-01-25 08:31:08 PM

halotosis: obamadidcoke: Some one stuck it in her pooper when she was a kid. Thats why she's so farked up and gay.

End of story.

Hey, be nice, this happens to be a woman I know. She doesn't need any more lies and hatred spread about her.


You need a better class of friends
 
2013-01-25 08:33:10 PM
i46.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-25 08:36:38 PM
The woman who desperately wants to be paraplegic
Speaking from experience, its not as much fun as it looks.
 
2013-01-25 08:43:54 PM

dee231: dopekitty74: serial arseonist: TomD9938: FTA : Then, aged 31, Chloe developed fibromyalgia

Imagine that.


Fake paraplegic acquires fake disease. Seems legit.

Fibro is NOT fake. My doctor diagnosed me via some sort of points system.

/hurt all the mother-farkin time


Seriously. Fibro is all too real. I had my dream job when I got into a car accident and developed severe fibromyalgia. Now I have severe pain every. single. day. I had to quit working and go on SSD.

Yeah, just what I wanted to do with my life. Fake severe pain and lose my social life and dignity.
Not to mention balance problems, depression, severe night sweats and many other lovely symptoms that come with fibro.

The lady is TFA is prolly going to make her fibro worse by sitting in a wheelchair for long periods of time. You have to stretch and exercise with fibro.

/I'm not overweight btw and overall fit otherwise : (


That sucks. Sorry to hear that.
 
2013-01-25 08:43:56 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: davidphogan: KrispyKritter: As always it's good to see the ignorant & close-minded brigade is out in full force. The same people who have so much to say about people who have opposing political or social subject views just shut right down when presented with one of life's anomalies.

People are very complex creatures and we are not all wired the same. It wasn't all that long ago that school children were forced to print with their right hand, people with two different color eyes were thought to be cursed and homosexuality was considered a mental health problem.

But what are you going to do. Adults like yourselves who should know better can't blame it on your stupid parents or your lack of education. You're just morans, plain and simple. If you were half human you would be happy you're not in this woman's shoes and you would afford her some sympathy and empathy.

It's funny how the post immediately after yours should have probably read your post before looking like another damn fool.

Except peasants_are_revolting is right.

/First world problems, indeed


He's right that a serious psychiatric disorder makes her a stupid biatch? Or it's just a made up disorder? Why is he right? Or are you just too dumb to grasp that this is a real problem for some people?
 
2013-01-25 08:48:49 PM

dee231: dopekitty74: serial arseonist: TomD9938: FTA : Then, aged 31, Chloe developed fibromyalgia

Imagine that.


Fake paraplegic acquires fake disease. Seems legit.

Fibro is NOT fake. My doctor diagnosed me via some sort of points system.

/hurt all the mother-farkin time


Seriously. Fibro is all too real. I had my dream job when I got into a car accident and developed severe fibromyalgia. Now I have severe pain every. single. day. I had to quit working and go on SSD.

Yeah, just what I wanted to do with my life. Fake severe pain and lose my social life and dignity.
Not to mention balance problems, depression, severe night sweats and many other lovely symptoms that come with fibro.

The lady is TFA is prolly going to make her fibro worse by sitting in a wheelchair for long periods of time. You have to stretch and exercise with fibro.

/I'm not overweight btw and overall fit otherwise : (


My mom had the fibro and used to go to these group PT/swim classes.
 
2013-01-25 08:50:45 PM
Someone really needs to tell her to walk it off. Oh, wait...
 
2013-01-25 08:55:37 PM

halotosis: It's just something I got chosen to live with. Caused me a lot of distress growing up, but now it's just annoying. I'd just like to see the misinformation and prejudice go away.


I guess part of the problem is Internet People. They routinely become fascinated with some tragic and quirky condition---one year it's synesthesia, then prosopagnosia, then dyscalculia, then high-functioning sociopathy, then whatever it is this year---and the next thing you know everyone is writing web pages about their synesthesia that they self-diagnosed from a list on the Internet.

It's natural for Internet People to feign these things, because they have a deep desire to be unique (a 6-digit UID will do that to you), because a medical condition creates a convenient explanation for shortcomings like inept social skills or poor grades, because people like believing a myth that they perceive the world in a very different way---plus you get extra angst points because your uniqueness comes from a tragic condition instead of a super power.

The long and short of it is that if you have a fascinating neurological condition, everyone on the Internet thinks you're a fake because they already heard enough people not-brag about their fascinating neurological conditions.
 
2013-01-25 08:57:16 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Uh, I've got some Brazilian tranny porn here that contradic(heh)ts


No thanks...but I heh-ed at your heh. Not proud of that.

Somatoform disorders- Psychological difficulties that take on a physical (somatic) form, but for which there is no medical cause.

They're not unheard of, obviously.

Too lazy to look y'all up, but halotosis et al, hugs, etc. FARK hugs, mind, so...for whatever they're worth.
 
2013-01-25 09:00:42 PM

davidphogan: ExperianScaresCthulhu: davidphogan: KrispyKritter: As always it's good to see the ignorant & close-minded brigade is out in full force. The same people who have so much to say about people who have opposing political or social subject views just shut right down when presented with one of life's anomalies.

People are very complex creatures and we are not all wired the same. It wasn't all that long ago that school children were forced to print with their right hand, people with two different color eyes were thought to be cursed and homosexuality was considered a mental health problem.

But what are you going to do. Adults like yourselves who should know better can't blame it on your stupid parents or your lack of education. You're just morans, plain and simple. If you were half human you would be happy you're not in this woman's shoes and you would afford her some sympathy and empathy.

It's funny how the post immediately after yours should have probably read your post before looking like another damn fool.

Except peasants_are_revolting is right.

/First world problems, indeed

He's right that a serious psychiatric disorder makes her a stupid biatch? Or it's just a made up disorder? Why is he right? Or are you just too dumb to grasp that this is a real problem for some people?


Peasants_are_revolting is right that a reality check would cure her of many things. Right now, her chosen profession is to seek validation, and doing it in the safest possible ways. She's no German dude going the extra mile to cut off fingers, toes, appendages, what have you because *it just doesn't feel right*. She's bullshiatting.

Look at the posts of the persons here who are paraplegic. She needs that kind of reality check. And yes, she needs the reality check of the third world sort Peasants_are_revolting is talking about, too.

Time for her to shiat or get off the pot. Since she's apparently been at this game for years, publicity and all, I vote 'get off the pot'. She really feels that she's supposed to be a paraplege? Then, as someone with medical connections, she's in the best possible position to do for herself in the most permanent way possible.

Since she's not, and she's been at this for years, she's bullshiatting.
 
2013-01-25 09:14:40 PM

zabadu: Saberus Terras: What an AW.

She's got a semi-hot girlfriend, though.

Which only goes to show that Psycho always gets a relationship. Be normal and people avoid you like the plague.


call me silly but that girlfriend looks like a Daniel to me.
 
2013-01-25 09:29:36 PM

jtown: Now Chloe, a research scientist in psychiatry, chooses to live her life on four wheels, pretending to be paralysed.

How is this even allowed? I can see her being a research subject in psychiatry but this is like letting the inmates run the asylum. How can she do objective research in psychiatry when her brain is clearly miswired? It seems unethical for her to work in the field.


Same way Stephen Hawking can be a theoretical physician. Its only *theoretical*.

...
 
2013-01-25 09:29:40 PM
What do they call the people who want to be hermaphrodite purple racoon-dragons with boobs bigger than their bodies? Because those people draw some farked up cartoons.
 
2013-01-25 09:31:50 PM
Woman has a rare common condition called Body Integrity Identity Attention Whore Disorder which makes her want to roll around in a wheelchair and be paraplegic suck up all the pity she can get

Truthiness in headlines.
 
2013-01-25 09:32:57 PM
Some people are crazy and other people have lymphatic cancer. i think that they should both be treated for their problems. I am not going to deny that someone has lymphatic cancer just because it makes them feel good. Same with crazy.
 
2013-01-25 09:38:30 PM

KrispyKritter: As always it's good to see the ignorant & close-minded brigade is out in full force. The same people who have so much to say about people who have opposing political or social subject views just shut right down when presented with one of life's anomalies.

People are very complex creatures and we are not all wired the same. It wasn't all that long ago that school children were forced to print with their right hand, people with two different color eyes were thought to be cursed and homosexuality was considered a mental health problem.

But what are you going to do. Adults like yourselves who should know better can't blame it on your stupid parents or your lack of education. You're just morans, plain and simple. If you were half human you would be happy you're not in this woman's shoes and you would afford her some sympathy and empathy.


Like the sympathy and empathy you're showing us, right?
 
2013-01-25 09:39:42 PM
 
2013-01-25 09:43:50 PM

xcv: Ghastly: Oldiron_79: Ghastly: Oldiron_79: So why don't we let people like this sever their spinal cords? We let TGs mutilate their genitals.

[sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net image 850x499]

What? I'm not saying we shouldn't lets TGs cut off thier junk I'm saying we should let body dismorphics or whatever they are called sever their spines

Because being a woman is the exact same thing as suffering a debilitating spinal injury.

Basically that's what it comes down to. Being a woman is the worst thing in the world to be and any guy who would turn in his penis and large intestine to be one should be persecuted and made to feel like a lessor being.

Worth mentioning that penises usually aren't big enough to make a deep simulated vagina. Surgeons often take intestines attached to the rectum and turn them into artificial vaginas. Intestineginas supposedly feel more authentic since they naturally produce mucus while penisginas are dry without lube.


ahrgh.
 
2013-01-25 09:47:41 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Peasants_are_revolting is right that a reality check would cure her of many things. Right now, her chosen profession is to seek validation, and doing it in the safest possible ways. She's no German dude going the extra mile to cut off fingers, toes, appendages, what have you because *it just doesn't feel right*. She's bullshiatting.

Look at the posts of the persons here who are paraplegic. She needs that kind of reality check. And yes, she needs the reality check of the third world sort Peasants_are_revolting is talking about, too.

Time for her to shiat or get off the pot. Since she's apparently been at this game for years, publicity and all, I vote 'get off the pot'. She really feels that she's supposed to be a paraplege? Then, as someone with medical connections, she's in the best possible position to do for herself in the most permanent way possible.

Since she's not, and she's been at this for years, she's bullshiatting.


What kind of reality check does she need, again? Be the German dude going the extra mile to lop off appendages, or neurologically stop them from just not feeling right? That where we're at here? Pick one: sh*t or get off the pot?

That's not her reality, and frankly, who the hell cares what time you think it is?

I may, to an extent, go along with the first world problems bit here. I don't know how much of that I'm willing to target at her personally, is the thing.

/ I'll perhaps RTFA here sometime soon, being as how the Bruins have won. Sorry to any Isles fans.
// Wrong tab?
/// THREE slashies! Ah ah ah!
 
2013-01-25 09:50:38 PM

DrExplosion: Now, if this is enough to make them happy with who they are and comfortable in their own skin, that's fine with me. I have no business trying to stop them. But a man who acts like a woman, thinks he's a woman, and has undergone surgery and hormone treatments to make himself look like a woman is still a man. He's just a very unusual man.


You're conflating sex and gender. A classic error.
 
2013-01-25 09:54:43 PM

JungleBoogie: One of the very funniest moments in a movie:

In the movie, "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels," Steve Martin and Michael Caine are competing con men trying to scam a rich heiress. In this scene, Steve Martin pretends to have paralyzed legs and inadvertently encounters Michael Caine, who is pretending to be a world-reknown doctor.


I thought of this movie right away, one of my favorites.

OKLAHOMA!OKLAHOMA!OKLAHOMA!
 
2013-01-25 09:56:37 PM

BigSnatch: Now Chloe, a research scientist in psychiatry, chooses to live her life on four wheels, pretending to be paralysed.

and cardiologists never die of heart disease.

She's known she had this and recognized it as a mental problem from pretty early in her life. What's strange about her going into psychiatry? Was it strange when Bruce Wayne became a crimefighter?
 
2013-01-25 09:56:44 PM

JungleBoogie: One of the very funniest moments in a movie:


Agreed. Can't remember the line, but Steve Martin so happy he's crying is hilarious.

/Oops! Wrong thread again.
 
2013-01-25 09:57:48 PM

ElMuerte: illannoyin: What a coincidence my fetish is women who have body integrated identi-whatever disorder!

Here's a picture of my current girlfriend...

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/The chafing from the cast gets me soooo hawt!

You can see all of her goods here. NSFW


oh. my. god.
 
2013-01-25 10:00:17 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Heamer: Zarquon's Flat Tire: So, what if you stick it in her pooper? Does she pretend not to notice?

As someone who's gone down on a paraplegic, rest assured that not all of them feel nothing below the waist.

[i.imgur.com image 725x800]
what the fark am I eating


how the fark do you guys find such perfect pics... ROFL
 
2013-01-25 10:00:45 PM
 
Poe
2013-01-25 10:02:04 PM

TomD9938: Mugato: Maybe if someone shot her with the venom of some South American monkey blowfish lizard, something that would paralyze her for like 24 hours, it might scare her straight.

I wonder if she's tried spinal blocks. Half a day legitamately in a chair, twice a month just might scratch her itch.

Funny there was no mention of that when we got 10 different descriptions of her flinging herself to the ground in hopes of severing her spinal cord in just the right spot (not too high - not too low).


Combine a spinal block with an insulin pump type device so she can go out in the world and live the life of someone who is truly paralyzed, and see how long she sticks it out.
 
2013-01-25 10:04:31 PM

Xcott: halotosis: It's just something I got chosen to live with. Caused me a lot of distress growing up, but now it's just annoying. I'd just like to see the misinformation and prejudice go away.

I guess part of the problem is Internet People. They routinely become fascinated with some tragic and quirky condition---one year it's synesthesia, then prosopagnosia, then dyscalculia, then high-functioning sociopathy, then whatever it is this year---and the next thing you know everyone is writing web pages about their synesthesia that they self-diagnosed from a list on the Internet.

It's natural for Internet People to feign these things, because they have a deep desire to be unique (a 6-digit UID will do that to you), because a medical condition creates a convenient explanation for shortcomings like inept social skills or poor grades, because people like believing a myth that they perceive the world in a very different way---plus you get extra angst points because your uniqueness comes from a tragic condition instead of a super power.

The long and short of it is that if you have a fascinating neurological condition, everyone on the Internet thinks you're a fake because they already heard enough people not-brag about their fascinating neurological conditions.



I've never thought synesthesia was especially tragic.  Then again, Wednesdays are orange...
 
2013-01-25 10:05:01 PM

profplump: jtown: How is this even allowed? I can see her being a research subject in psychiatry but this is like letting the inmates run the asylum. How can she do objective research in psychiatry when her brain is clearly miswired? It seems unethical for her to work in the field.

We let physicians work in medicine even though they are sometimes ill or injured. We let chefs cook even though they are sometimes hungry.


On the other hand, we don't let schizophrenics psychoanalyze people, and tell patients that they really do have a transmitter in their head installed by the reptilians.
 
2013-01-25 10:09:40 PM

Cagey B: Fark Rye For Many Whores: What ever happened to crazy? What ever happened to just "crazy"?

A few centuries back, we realized that you can employ scientific methods to study things, allowing professionals to differentiate various kinds of disorders, some even of the psychological variety.

You'll also be pleased to know that the cold you caught a while back wasn't the result of miasma affecting your humors, or the "Evil Eye" you got from some other Farker in another thread.


And then the psychiatric "professionals" learned that insurance will pay for all kinds of crazy carp if the "professionals" called it a disorder. Cha-ching!
 
2013-01-25 10:10:07 PM
On a related note this crazy chick's hot girlfriend appears to reside on Mars.
 
2013-01-25 10:12:11 PM

Xcott: On the other hand, we don't let schizophrenics psychoanalyze people, and tell patients that they really do have a transmitter in their head installed by the reptilians.


Shrinks will support a delusion if it's a delusion concerning gender, tho.
 
2013-01-25 10:12:38 PM
Give her a week dealing with the...er...bathroom issues that a paraplegic person has to deal with- i.e., incontinence of both bowel and bladder, adult diapers, catheterization, 'bowel programs'...and the smell when things...um....get away from you.

Might help her be more content with just using braces and the wheelchair and NOT going for the gold.
 
2013-01-25 10:18:07 PM

TheDirtyNacho: I've never thought synesthesia was especially tragic.  Then again, Wednesdays are orange...


It doesn't sound particularly tragic, but people who decide they have it will occasionally play the tortured arty genius angle because they have a condition they can't turn off. As I said, it's free angst points.

People have been whoring for angst points online ever since the public first heard of the Internet, when half the users had "lestat" as a login ID, and the other half were "draven."
 
2013-01-25 10:20:17 PM

Poe: TomD9938: Mugato: Maybe if someone shot her with the venom of some South American monkey blowfish lizard, something that would paralyze her for like 24 hours, it might scare her straight.

I wonder if she's tried spinal blocks. Half a day legitamately in a chair, twice a month just might scratch her itch.

Funny there was no mention of that when we got 10 different descriptions of her flinging herself to the ground in hopes of severing her spinal cord in just the right spot (not too high - not too low).

Combine a spinal block with an insulin pump type device so she can go out in the world and live the life of someone who is truly paralyzed, and see how long she sticks it out.


I know someone with BIID who sought out a doctor for exactly this. The cost was insane and it would only have been for a short term trial. I personally think such non-permanent solutions would benefit many people, if nothing else then to help clarify the decision of if surgery is the correct option for them.
 
2013-01-25 10:22:27 PM
Reminds me a bit of this movie: Quid Pro Quo

However, the trailer makes it look more like an erotic thriller than anything else. It was really just about a paraplegic journalist starting a weird relationship with a secretive woman with a BID fetish.
 
2013-01-25 10:46:15 PM
I see a lot of them at grocery stores, they are not paraplegic they are just farking fat!!!!
 
2013-01-25 10:56:23 PM

Xcott: TheDirtyNacho: I've never thought synesthesia was especially tragic.  Then again, Wednesdays are orange...

It doesn't sound particularly tragic, but people who decide they have it will occasionally play the tortured arty genius angle because they have a condition they can't turn off. As I said, it's free angst points.

People have been whoring for angst points online ever since the public first heard of the Internet, when half the users had "lestat" as a login ID, and the other half were "draven."


My first user id was a number assigned by the isp so ridiculously long there's no way I could ever remember it. What a pain!
 
2013-01-25 11:22:47 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Heamer: Zarquon's Flat Tire: So, what if you stick it in her pooper? Does she pretend not to notice?

As someone who's gone down on a paraplegic, rest assured that not all of them feel nothing below the waist.

[i.imgur.com image 725x800]
what the fark am I eating


i618.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-25 11:53:59 PM
Or, you know, she could use her free will to make rational choices.

Here's how'd I'd conduct a therapy session.

Patient: I want to....
Me: That's stupid and you know it's stupid so stop that. $200. Buh-bye!
 
2013-01-25 11:54:42 PM

stuffy: The woman who desperately wants to be paraplegic
Speaking from experience, its not as much fun as it looks.


It's probably a lot more fun when you can stand up whenever you want.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-01-26 12:47:28 AM
She wants to be stuck in a wheelchair?
Let her catch a ride with a Kennedy! She'll be lucky to only need a wheelchair.
 
2013-01-26 12:51:17 AM

JesusJuice: here's been actual research done on this by actual scientists, but clearly you know better because you read an article on the internet.


really? Are those "scientists" people like the woman in the article? Give me some links to published journal articles - respected journals, mind you. I'm calling your bluff.
 
2013-01-26 01:32:54 AM

davidphogan: ExperianScaresCthulhu: davidphogan: KrispyKritter: As always it's good to see the ignorant & close-minded brigade is out in full force. The same people who have so much to say about people who have opposing political or social subject views just shut right down when presented with one of life's anomalies.

People are very complex creatures and we are not all wired the same. It wasn't all that long ago that school children were forced to print with their right hand, people with two different color eyes were thought to be cursed and homosexuality was considered a mental health problem.

But what are you going to do. Adults like yourselves who should know better can't blame it on your stupid parents or your lack of education. You're just morans, plain and simple. If you were half human you would be happy you're not in this woman's shoes and you would afford her some sympathy and empathy.

It's funny how the post immediately after yours should have probably read your post before looking like another damn fool.

Except peasants_are_revolting is right.

/First world problems, indeed

He's right that a serious psychiatric disorder makes her a stupid biatch? Or it's just a made up disorder? Why is he right? Or are you just too dumb to grasp that this is a real problem for some people?


She is a stupid biatch and also it's a made-up disorder. Does that answer your question(s)? My point is that this bullshiattery would not be tolerated in the other 80 percent of the world. farking evolve.
 
2013-01-26 01:40:00 AM
www.deviantart.com
 
2013-01-26 02:12:44 AM

IamAwake: JesusJuice: There's been actual research done on this by actual scientists, but clearly you know better because you read an article on the internet.

really? Are those "scientists" people like the woman in the article? Give me some links to published journal articles - respected journals, mind you. I'm calling your bluff.


Giummarra, M. J., Bradshaw, J. L., Nicholls, M. E. R., Hilti, L. M., & Brugger, P. (January 01, 2011). Body Integrity Identity Disorder: Deranged Body Processing, Right Fronto-Parietal Dysfunction, and Phenomenological Experience of Body Incongruity. Neuropsychology Review, 21, 4, 320-333.

Giummarra, M. J., Bradshaw, J. L., Hilti, L. M., Nicholls, M. E., & Brugger, P. (January 01, 2012). Paralyzed by desire: a new type of body integrity identity disorder. Cognitive and Behavioral Neurology : Official Journal of the Society for Behavioral and Cognitive Neurology, 25, 1, 34-41.

Sedda, A. (January 01, 2011). Body Integrity Identity Disorder: From A Psychological to A Neurological Syndrome. Neuropsychology Review, 21, 4, 334-336.

SORENE, E. D., HERAS-PALOU, C., & BURKE, F. D. (January 01, 2006). Self-Amputation of a Healthy Hand: A Case of Body Integrity Identity Disorder. The Journal of Hand Surgery (european Volume), 31, 6, 593-595.

Blom, R. M., Hennekam, R. C., & Denys, D. (January 01, 2012). Body integrity identity disorder. Plos One, 7, 4.)

BAYNE, T. I. M., & LEVY, N. E. I. L. (March 01, 2005). Amputees By Choice: Body Integrity Identity Disorder and the Ethics of Amputation. Journal of Applied Philosophy, 22, 1, 75-86.
 
2013-01-26 02:24:40 AM
Awful lot of unnecessary TG hate/fear going on in this thread.
 
2013-01-26 02:32:39 AM

davidphogan: ExperianScaresCthulhu: davidphogan: KrispyKritter: As always it's good to see the ignorant & close-minded brigade is out in full force. The same people who have so much to say about people who have opposing political or social subject views just shut right down when presented with one of life's anomalies.

People are very complex creatures and we are not all wired the same. It wasn't all that long ago that school children were forced to print with their right hand, people with two different color eyes were thought to be cursed and homosexuality was considered a mental health problem.

But what are you going to do. Adults like yourselves who should know better can't blame it on your stupid parents or your lack of education. You're just morans, plain and simple. If you were half human you would be happy you're not in this woman's shoes and you would afford her some sympathy and empathy.

It's funny how the post immediately after yours should have probably read your post before looking like another damn fool.

Except peasants_are_revolting is right.

/First world problems, indeed

He's right that a serious psychiatric disorder makes her a stupid biatch? Or it's just a made up disorder? Why is he right? Or are you just too dumb to grasp that this is a real problem for some people?


He's too dumb to grasp that the reason why it's a "first world people problem" is that in countries like Sudan, they'll kill you for stepping out of line. Gee, I wonder why we don't see more cases like this out there...

I suggest that all the Farkers who would like to pretend that this doesn't exist take their happy asses to Sudan where they can do just that. Leave the first world for those of us who are able to feel empathy with one another, thanks.
 
2013-01-26 02:35:27 AM

occamswrist: KrispyKritter: As always it's good to see the ignorant & close-minded brigade is out in full force. The same people who have so much to say about people who have opposing political or social subject views just shut right down when presented with one of life's anomalies.

People are very complex creatures and we are not all wired the same. It wasn't all that long ago that school children were forced to print with their right hand, people with two different color eyes were thought to be cursed and homosexuality was considered a mental health problem.

But what are you going to do. Adults like yourselves who should know better can't blame it on your stupid parents or your lack of education. You're just morans, plain and simple. If you were half human you would be happy you're not in this woman's shoes and you would afford her some sympathy and empathy.

Like the sympathy and empathy you're showing us, right?


"Tolerate my intolerance!"

Oh, you can just fark right off.
 
2013-01-26 02:52:08 AM

PsiChick: meat0918: I thought this was called "Münchausen syndrome"?

It looks like there's actual neurology behind this, which makes sense since most people have urges to stop themselves from doing anything stupid--and I've heard of this disorder, it showed up in my psych textbooks. Basically, the brain thinks limbs are foreign objects and goes 'WTF get rid of this shiat! I'm supposed to be limbless here!'.

However, it really looks like she's also got psychological issues from her aunt's problems, so she's got a mix.

/Glad she's getting help
//This is fascinating as hell.


Proprioception is the body's sense of where its own limbs are. Oliver Sacks describes patients who lose this ability in part or in whole in "The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat". He had a patient who often felt like he was waking up with a dead leg in bed with him and he'd throw it out of the bed. When he'd find it was attached to him, he thought someone had taken off his leg and replaced it with one from a corpse. I suspect that this condition is related, that is it some failure of proprioception.
 
2013-01-26 03:03:09 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: occamswrist: KrispyKritter: As always it's good to see the ignorant & close-minded brigade is out in full force. The same people who have so much to say about people who have opposing political or social subject views just shut right down when presented with one of life's anomalies.

People are very complex creatures and we are not all wired the same. It wasn't all that long ago that school children were forced to print with their right hand, people with two different color eyes were thought to be cursed and homosexuality was considered a mental health problem.

But what are you going to do. Adults like yourselves who should know better can't blame it on your stupid parents or your lack of education. You're just morans, plain and simple. If you were half human you would be happy you're not in this woman's shoes and you would afford her some sympathy and empathy.

Like the sympathy and empathy you're showing us, right?

"Tolerate my intolerance!"

Oh, you can just fark right off.


But you expect people to tolerate YOUR intolerance, right?
 
2013-01-26 03:16:04 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: Awful lot of unnecessary TG hate/fear going on in this thread.


You've been on my favs for awhile, have fun again with TF. : )
 
2013-01-26 03:20:31 AM

DrPainMD: The My Little Pony Killer: occamswrist: KrispyKritter: As always it's good to see the ignorant & close-minded brigade is out in full force. The same people who have so much to say about people who have opposing political or social subject views just shut right down when presented with one of life's anomalies.

People are very complex creatures and we are not all wired the same. It wasn't all that long ago that school children were forced to print with their right hand, people with two different color eyes were thought to be cursed and homosexuality was considered a mental health problem.

But what are you going to do. Adults like yourselves who should know better can't blame it on your stupid parents or your lack of education. You're just morans, plain and simple. If you were half human you would be happy you're not in this woman's shoes and you would afford her some sympathy and empathy.

Like the sympathy and empathy you're showing us, right?

"Tolerate my intolerance!"

Oh, you can just fark right off.

But you expect people to tolerate YOUR intolerance, right?


Tolerance is not always a virtue.
 
2013-01-26 03:43:24 AM

DrPainMD: I'm rubber and you're glue


Oh come on - if you're going to troll the least you can do is be entertaining.
 
2013-01-26 03:49:53 AM

quickdraw: DrPainMD: I'm rubber and you're glue

Oh come on - if you're going to troll the least you can do is be entertaining.


Not trolling or trying to entertain. Just pointing out that people who preach tolerance are the most intolerant people. Orwell discusses the phenomena in "1984." See "doublethink."
 
2013-01-26 03:51:25 AM

DrPainMD: quickdraw: DrPainMD: I'm rubber and you're glue

Oh come on - if you're going to troll the least you can do is be entertaining.

Not trolling or trying to entertain. Just pointing out that people who preach tolerance are the most intolerant people. Orwell discusses the phenomena in "1984." See "doublethink."


Orwell wrote fiction.
 
2013-01-26 03:55:05 AM

DrPainMD: quickdraw: DrPainMD: I'm rubber and you're glue

Oh come on - if you're going to troll the least you can do is be entertaining.

Not trolling or trying to entertain. Just pointing out that people who preach tolerance are the most intolerant people. Orwell discusses the phenomena in "1984." See "doublethink."


Orwell was showing the absurdity of doublethink. It wasn't an instruction manual for trolls. Although I can see why a dimwitted person might read it that way. Also Lord of the Flies was not supposed to be a blueprint for a political philosophy even if Ayn Rand took it that way.
 
2013-01-26 03:57:11 AM

DrPainMD: quickdraw: DrPainMD: I'm rubber and you're glue

Oh come on - if you're going to troll the least you can do is be entertaining.

Not trolling or trying to entertain. Just pointing out that people who preach tolerance are the most intolerant people. Orwell discusses the phenomena in "1984." See "doublethink."


I think you should read that again because well, anyway have a doubleplus good day.
 
2013-01-26 03:59:30 AM

quickdraw: DrPainMD: quickdraw: DrPainMD: I'm rubber and you're glue

Oh come on - if you're going to troll the least you can do is be entertaining.

Not trolling or trying to entertain. Just pointing out that people who preach tolerance are the most intolerant people. Orwell discusses the phenomena in "1984." See "doublethink."

Orwell was showing the absurdity of doublethink. It wasn't an instruction manual for trolls. Although I can see why a dimwitted person might read it that way. Also Lord of the Flies was not supposed to be a blueprint for a political philosophy even if Ayn Rand took it that way.


LoL, I love you so much : )

/Sorry I'm a bit tipsy right now.
 
2013-01-26 04:08:22 AM
I have a debilitating spinal injury Spend most of my time in wheelchair or scooter (speed whee!!!) mode. I am also in constant pain. Quite frankly,I try to be understanding and accepting. I really do.

But this one gets a great big WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU. Yeah ok, we have acronym diagnosis. And yeah, pinch of salt the size of a termite mound for the source. But oh damn- I do not like this.
 
2013-01-26 06:19:51 AM

BigLuca: Next time I see her outside I'll point a rabid bear in her direction ... let's see how committed she is.


I don't know if I'd go the rabid bear route, but I think it would be an interesting experiment. What would she do in the face of an imminent threat to her life? Real paraplegics don't have the option of getting up and running.

Although wouldn't her muscles be fairly atrophied by now?
 
2013-01-26 06:28:01 AM
It sounds like the "treatment" she is getting is actually encouraging the condition and not treating it at all. Or possibly she is misrepresenting what has been said to her by the therapist/doctor as an excuse to indulge her fantasy. I don't believe this is the same as the cases where a limb is not represented in the brain - it simply sounds like a childhood fantasy that got out of control (and it implies it became mixed up with her sexual development).
 
2013-01-26 06:40:54 AM

timelady: But oh damn- I do not like this.


You figure the victim does?

As for "WTF is wrong with you?", well, they're called mental illnesses because her brain isn't working right. Is her illness that much harder to believe than Van Gogh's cutting his own ear off? Brains are all that separate us from animals. It's terrifying to see how fragile they can be.

If you'd like to read some amazing stories about the bizarre ways brain damage can change people, I recommend "The Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat", by Dr. Oliver Sachs. BIID's downright mild compared to some of Dr. Sach's patients.

/I'm a little more mobile than you. I can walk to the kitchen and back with a cane. Even up a flight of stairs if I then go lie down. Yes, I do feel lucky. The surgeon said if my helmet had hit the pavement a bit differently I'd have broken my neck. It's been 11 years and I still think about that often.
//Same deal as you with the perma-pain, though.
///Dad died from a brain tumor, and went through a mercifully-short delusional phase, right about the same time he lost bowel control. You think this is hard to believe in a stranger? Wait'll it's a parent who utterly loses their mind while you watch.
 
2013-01-26 09:11:49 AM
You know what else is stupid and we should ridicule people for? Wanting to kill themselves. Because that's just f*cking stupid, ammiright?
 
2013-01-26 10:41:45 AM
Well I've just been looking at some of the scientific literature on this, and so far it seems to be the consensus that there is virtually no significant research on this condition, and the jury is still well and truly out on what it is, what causes it, and what treats it. There's not much point linking anything as I'm mostly getting truncated papers but all of them so far say this. Just reading one from 2009 which says there are only FOUR bona fide case reports of BIID (other case reports were not clear cut cases and fit criteria for other differential diagnoses) and they specifically complain about the number of reports that actually come from articles like this one which can't be verified by researchers.

Yes the neurological theory is something which has been suggested recently and is being looked into, but really to be honest in psychology it tends to be a truism that psychological differences reflect differences in brain function of some sort. Just because there may be some fMRI studies which appear to support a neurological hypothesis it doesn't mean that the whole and final story of the origins, treatment etc of the condition are simply along the lines that "their brain is wired up differently, that's all there is to it".

I am familiar with neurology/psychology and I can absolutely believe that some people really do have a rare neurological condition - for instance perhaps they had a small stroke etc etc. But this woman clearly describes how this began with specific life events and fantasy play.

I just think far too many farkers in this thread are being naive about her saying that it's just "how my brain is wired" being a 100% correct statement. I commented a few posts ago so I'm not going to bother repeating it, but I've now read through all the OTHER posts and read a few research papers, and my opinion of this person in particular hasn't changed. It's interesting that the research papers DO seem to generally come to the conclusion that voluntary amputation may be an ethical solution in some cases, as these people are sane and able to make decisions like anybody else. But some people are investigating other treatment options.

The whole brain wiring/chemistry thing is just endemic in psychiatry. It obviously does have meaning and truth to it, but unfortunately too many people see it as the end of the debate. Like "oh well that's it then, it's the way I/he/she is made and there is no element of choice/possibility of recovery without drugs" etc etc etc. If you go to a psychiatrist with a problem there is a good chance that you will be told something along those lines. Yes it can be helpful, but it's rarely the whole story at the best of times.

/ramble
 
2013-01-26 11:23:50 AM

belhade: Woman has a rare common condition called Body Integrity Identity Attention Whore Disorder which makes her want to roll around in a wheelchair and be paraplegic suck up all the pity she can get

Truthiness in headlines.


This!
 
2013-01-26 01:40:39 PM

duenor: how the fark do you guys find such perfect pics... ROFL


This guy in another thread:

A Terrible Human: [i.imgur.com image 725x800]

 
2013-01-26 02:59:11 PM

Xcott: TheDirtyNacho: I've never thought synesthesia was especially tragic.  Then again, Wednesdays are orange...

It doesn't sound particularly tragic, but people who decide they have it will occasionally play the tortured arty genius angle because they have a condition they can't turn off. As I said, it's free angst points.

People have been whoring for angst points online ever since the public first heard of the Internet, when half the users had "lestat" as a login ID, and the other half were "draven."


You've never heard of the term 'confirmation bias', have you? Because damn do you look like a prime candidate for it.
 
2013-01-26 04:22:45 PM

DrPainMD: quickdraw: DrPainMD: I'm rubber and you're glue

Oh come on - if you're going to troll the least you can do is be entertaining.

Not trolling or trying to entertain. Just pointing out that people who preach tolerance are the most intolerant people. Orwell discusses the phenomena in "1984." See "doublethink."


Wait, what? What the Hell are you talking about? That's not what "doublethink" referred to in 1984.

In 1984, "doublethink" didn't refer to hypocrisy or practicing the opposite of what you preach. Doublethink was the ability to hold two factually contradictory ideas, and to control one's memory and cognitive faculties in order to know and believe whatever the Party requires you to know and believe at any time---while remaining intentionally unaware of doing so.

You might want to re-read the book (and while you're at the library, verify with a dictionary that "phenomena" is plural. The word you want is "phenomenon.")
 
2013-01-26 04:40:06 PM

JayR30: Not bad but the one I like is "split personality disorder" as most people know it. Within the same body, one may be paralyzed, another may be a diabetic and the original personality perfectly healthy.


Yeah except it turns out that disorder probably doesn't exist, and if it does, it's iatrogenic (caused by treatment), especially as relates to the appalling techniques such a hypnotic suggestion used for "recovering" "suppressed" "memories" that was so fashionable in the 80s and 90s.

A condition that really only began appearing after media exposure (Sybil, Three Faces of Eve), is almost entirely confined to North America, affecting mainly white middle class women ages 20-40 most of whom already have Borderline Personality Disorder, and the majority of cases are diagnosed by a handful of therapists.

I actually witnessed it passing from one member of a therapy group to another, spreading from one girl to eventually five, like an infectious disease. Freud would have been thrilled.

/Charcot called, he wants his bad science back
 
2013-01-26 10:42:35 PM

Xcott: DrPainMD: quickdraw: DrPainMD: I'm rubber and you're glue

Oh come on - if you're going to troll the least you can do is be entertaining.

Not trolling or trying to entertain. Just pointing out that people who preach tolerance are the most intolerant people. Orwell discusses the phenomena in "1984." See "doublethink."

Wait, what? What the Hell are you talking about? That's not what "doublethink" referred to in 1984.

In 1984, "doublethink" didn't refer to hypocrisy or practicing the opposite of what you preach. Doublethink was the ability to hold two factually contradictory ideas, and to control one's memory and cognitive faculties in order to know and believe whatever the Party requires you to know and believe at any time---while remaining intentionally unaware of doing so.

You might want to re-read the book (and while you're at the library, verify with a dictionary that "phenomena" is plural. The word you want is "phenomenon.")


Yes, I know what it means. I'm sorry that you can't recognize real-world examples of it when you see them.
 
2013-01-27 06:59:20 PM

Beowoolfie: timelady: But oh damn- I do not like this.

You figure the victim does?

As for "WTF is wrong with you?", well, they're called mental illnesses because her brain isn't working right. Is her illness that much harder to believe than Van Gogh's cutting his own ear off? Brains are all that separate us from animals. It's terrifying to see how fragile they can be.

If you'd like to read some amazing stories about the bizarre ways brain damage can change people, I recommend "The Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat", by Dr. Oliver Sachs. BIID's downright mild compared to some of Dr. Sach's patients.

/I'm a little more mobile than you. I can walk to the kitchen and back with a cane. Even up a flight of stairs if I then go lie down. Yes, I do feel lucky. The surgeon said if my helmet had hit the pavement a bit differently I'd have broken my neck. It's been 11 years and I still think about that often.
//Same deal as you with the perma-pain, though.
///Dad died from a brain tumor, and went through a mercifully-short delusional phase, right about the same time he lost bowel control. You think this is hard to believe in a stranger? Wait'll it's a parent who utterly loses their mind while you watch.


My father in law dies from a tumour. I don't have to wait. It was excruciating to watch, but his delusional phase at least helped him semi escape the agony.

I don't imagine she likes it, no. But why can I not acknowledge my discomfort? Is my feeling disconcerted less valid? I did not call her a fraud or a fake, or condemn her. I merely said I didn't lime it. It is hard to confront things such as this, and they need processing.

Perhaps do not be so quick to judge, and also I do not want to get into a contest of who has had the most suffering or relatives suffering, ok?
 
2013-01-28 12:19:05 AM

timelady: Perhaps do not be so quick to judge,


I beg your pardon. For some reason, I parsed "WTF is wrong with you" as judgmental, and responded accordingly.

Wait, you thought I was competing with you? That's sick, lady. Yeah, my pain and suffering is all about you.
 
2013-01-28 12:50:23 AM

Beowoolfie: Wait, you thought I was competing with you? That's sick, lady. Yeah, my pain and suffering is all about you.


And, after a few minutes reflection, I see this is one of those times I took the words too literally. My sincere apologies for the angry Weeners. I know better than to post too quickly on a bad night. I might be stuck with disabled and autistic, but "jerk" should be under my control.

And no, I wasn't competing, only sharing. You did, so I did too. That's really all.
 
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