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2013-01-25 02:14:48 PM  
Well, if the daughter (and the mom) had been carrying their own guns, this wouldn't have happened, now would it? He probably only felt empowered to do this because he knew they WEREN'T armed and were therefore easy victims. Remember: an armed society is a polite society. I'm glad we can have situations like this crop up every now and then to serve as just illustrations of that very important point.
 
2013-01-25 02:14:59 PM  
Asian dad?

Kirill Bartashevitch

Hm, nope.
 
2013-01-25 02:17:14 PM  
I get the felling this 'Murikin fears a lot of things.
 
2013-01-25 02:17:30 PM  
You can get an AK for just $150?
 
2013-01-25 02:22:44 PM  
Which means that if she had received a few C's or lower, he would have blown her away.

FOTY material, for sure.
 
2013-01-25 02:25:33 PM  

Sybarite: Asian dad?

Kirill Bartashevitch

Hm, nope.


Asian REDNECK dad. It's the only explanation.
 
2013-01-25 02:26:55 PM  

ajgeek: Sybarite: Asian dad?

Kirill Bartashevitch

Hm, nope.

Asian REDNECK dad. It's the only explanation.



Name sounds Russian, so he's not a redneck, he's just red.


/aisle seat please.
 
2013-01-25 02:28:09 PM  
Watch the libbies try to punish this patriot for using second amendment solutions to raise his kids.
 
2013-01-25 02:29:15 PM  
Fool.

He could have pointed a shotgun or a pistol, but no, it had to be an ASSAULT WEAPON, and now he's on Fark.
 
2013-01-25 02:31:28 PM  
She got two B's? She's just starting to fill out.
 
2013-01-25 02:33:26 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Watch the libbies try to punish this patriot for using second amendment solutions to raise his kids.



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What a "Second Amendment Solution" might look like
 
2013-01-25 02:34:19 PM  
SilentStrider: ajgeek: Sybarite: Asian dad?

Kirill Bartashevitch

Hm, nope.

Asian REDNECK dad. It's the only explanation.

Name sounds Russian, so he's not a redneck, he's just red.


Better dead than red!

/death is a preferable alternative ...
 
2013-01-25 02:34:19 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: She got two B's? She's just starting to fill out.



Heh!

No wonder daddy's nervous.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-25 02:36:28 PM  

Blues_X: You can get an AK for just $150?


7.62x54R is a type of ammunition.

I think he paid $375 for the AK.
 
2013-01-25 02:37:35 PM  
Gun Owners of PeaceTM strike again
 
2013-01-25 02:41:06 PM  

Sybarite: Asian dad?

Kirill Bartashevitch

Hm, nope.


Bartashevitch could be an Asian name.
 
2013-01-25 02:41:40 PM  
Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1
 
2013-01-25 02:43:11 PM  
this is why we can't have nice things.
 
2013-01-25 02:43:35 PM  
"terroristic"? Didn't even know that was a word.

Was that really terrorism though? Oh right. Everything is terrorism now.
 
2013-01-25 02:44:42 PM  

impaler: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1


Thank you. This can't be stated enough. And don't ever point it at anything you aren't willing to destroy.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-25 02:45:59 PM  

Mugato: "terroristic"? Didn't even know that was a word.

Was that really terrorism though? Oh right. Everything is terrorism now.


Threatening to kill someone is a terroristic threat.
 
2013-01-25 02:50:03 PM  

impaler: You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1




4) Do you still want to point the gun at someone just to scare them? Don't cause it could be loaded


However a license does not mean that you will get responsible ownership. See car ownership.


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2013-01-25 02:50:45 PM  
Never use an AK on a teenager

/that's what shotguns are for
 
2013-01-25 02:53:07 PM  

impaler: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1


So.  He grabbed his gun during an argument, and made sure it was not loaded (yes, I know they're all loaded, bear with me) and then pointed it at his wife and daughter?  What exactly was the point he was trying to make?  The whole reason a gun exists is to shoot something so if you make sure that that gun can't shoot, what, exactly, are you trying to convey by pointing an unloaded gun at someone?  If you get one more B I'll load this gun and then shoot you?
 
2013-01-25 02:53:20 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never use an AK on a teenager

/that's what shotguns are for


I thought shotguns were used to force the guy who knocked her up to marry her.
 
2013-01-25 02:53:21 PM  
This here is a fine example of someone who is too stupid to own a firearm.  Bought the gun because he thought the "gub'mint" was going to ban it, and pointed it in his daughter's face for bringing home two B's instead of straight A's.

Take THAT man's gun and beat him upside the head with it......then don't give it back.
 
2013-01-25 02:53:48 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: impaler: You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1


4) Do you still want to point the gun at someone just to scare them? Don't cause it could be loaded


However a license does not mean that you will get responsible ownership. See car ownership.


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LOL! She must have got lessons from my ex. All she needs is some fast food in her left hand.
 
2013-01-25 02:54:10 PM  

Mugato: "terroristic"? Didn't even know that was a word.

Was that really terrorism though? Oh right. Everything is terrorism now.



Terrorism is the new black.
 
2013-01-25 02:55:10 PM  

Coco LaFemme: This here is a fine example of someone who is too stupid to own a firearm.  Bought the gun because he thought the "gub'mint" was going to ban it, and pointed it in his daughter's face for bringing home two B's instead of straight A's.

Take THAT man's gun and beat him upside the head with it......then don't give it back.


Something tells me he wasn't a straight A student either.
 
2013-01-25 02:56:13 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never use an AK on a teenager

/that's what shotguns are for


You know, Rock Salt won't really kill you, but it'll sure act as an effective behavioral modifier.

At any rate, and in all seriousness, this is insane. What responsible gun owner, let alone decent human parent, would threaten their OWN CHILD with a rifle. Period. At the very least, it's the basic definition of emotional abuse, and probably an indicator that something else non-kosher is going on in the house.

People like this need to be beat upside the head (Sorry, your rights end where my nose begins logic on this one. You do not have the right to threaten a CHILD with a rifle because of their freakin' report card) and be mandated to seek mental health evaluation and care.
 
2013-01-25 02:56:42 PM  
He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

As we are all likely to do during a heated, physical exchange.
 
2013-01-25 03:00:42 PM  

BronyMedic: At any rate, and in all seriousness, this is insane. What responsible gun owner, let alone decent human parent, would threaten their OWN CHILD with a rifle. Period. At the very least, it's the basic definition of emotional abuse, and probably an indicator that something else non-kosher is going on in the house.



You think he's been porking his daughter?
 
2013-01-25 03:02:24 PM  
This society just keeps getting more and more polite, doesn't it?
 
2013-01-25 03:03:25 PM  

BunkoSquad: This society just keeps getting more and more polite, doesn't it?


fark you
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-25 03:03:50 PM  
The Stealth Hippopotamus:

However a license does not mean that you will get responsible ownership. See car ownership.


That's why we need to limit the firepower.
 
2013-01-25 03:09:21 PM  
Not all gun related products are bad.

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2013-01-25 03:13:36 PM  

Amos Quito: You think he's been porking his daughter?


Okay. That made me laugh. Bravo, Sir. Bravo.

In all seriousness, coming from someone who sees a lot of abused kids come through, if that dad is willing to threaten his daughter at gunpoint for something, he's willing and probably in the current act of harming her in some other fashion, physically or emotionally. It's not really a stretch to assume or intervene with an investigation.

/wonder how many "falls" she's had in the last 5 years.
 
2013-01-25 03:18:10 PM  

vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.

speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!
 
2013-01-25 03:19:36 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!


To be fair, it's a lot harder to get an aortic sheer at 20 miles an hour. Or turn a pedestrian into a buff of pink mist.
 
2013-01-25 03:20:45 PM  

BronyMedic: The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

To be fair, it's a lot harder to get an aortic sheer at 20 miles an hour. Or turn a pedestrian into a buff of pink mist.


A donkey and cart can do the same job as a truck.
 
2013-01-25 03:20:53 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?!


Yes. Especially in emergencies. More so than we need assault rifles.

/not for gun control
//stupid argument
 
2013-01-25 03:21:40 PM  

Mugato: The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?!

Yes. Especially in emergencies. More so than we need assault rifles.

/not for gun control
//stupid argument


So government can have them. It's donkey and cart for you.
 
2013-01-25 03:23:18 PM  

muck4doo: A donkey and cart can do the same job as a truck.


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2013-01-25 03:23:46 PM  
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-25 03:24:13 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!


We already do regulate cars.  They have to have things like break lights for instance.  Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.
 
2013-01-25 03:26:35 PM  

Amos Quito: Fool.

He could have pointed a shotgun or a pistol, but no, it had to be an ASSAULT WEAPON, and now he's on Fark.


Senator Feinstein's proposal classifies many handgun and shotgun models as "assault weapons".
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-25 03:26:59 PM  
muck4doo:

So government can have them. It's donkey and cart for you.

Well, if you are crazy enough to think you are going to overthrow the government or that anyone would want gun nuts to overthrow the government then you probably shouldn't be trusted with a donkey and cart either.
 
2013-01-25 03:27:14 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Not all gun related products are bad.

[www.desertknightnews.com image 400x374]


So you say.  I was with someone who was rubbing his piece down with that stuff and the damned thing went off in my face!
 
2013-01-25 03:27:39 PM  

vpb: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

We already do regulate cars.  They have to have things like break lights for instance.  Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.


What specific automobile models are banned by name?
 
2013-01-25 03:30:24 PM  

vpb: muck4doo:

So government can have them. It's donkey and cart for you.

Well, if you are crazy enough to think you are going to overthrow the government or that anyone would want gun nuts to overthrow the government then you probably shouldn't be trusted with a donkey and cart either.


At least I don't think the donkey needs "break lights".
 
2013-01-25 03:32:40 PM  
I don't want to talk about the second amendment or gun control right now. I think I'm just going to go to the store. Maybe I'll get a bottle of pop and some junk food. Then I'm going to sit down and play some video games. That sounds like fun.

You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?
 
2013-01-25 03:33:44 PM  

GreenAdder: I don't want to talk about the second amendment or gun control right now. I think I'm just going to go to the store. Maybe I'll get a bottle of pop and some junk food. Then I'm going to sit down and play some video games. That sounds like fun.

You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?


I could enjoy a bag of Ruffles Natural potato chips. I really should reduce my intake, however.
 
2013-01-25 03:34:08 PM  
BRAKE lights, muck.

/politely offers a celery to Mr Toitle
 
2013-01-25 03:34:47 PM  

muck4doo: A donkey and cart can do the same job as a truck.





Just need more donkeys and more carts. Anyway truck dont have to go over 20 miles an hour. Truth be told if you limited them to that speed they could pull doubles and triples and save the environment will all the fuel you'll save.

Mugato: Yes. Especially in emergencies. More so than we need assault rifles.

/not for gun control
//stupid argument



Exactly, it is a stupid argument. As is saying all we need is gun will smaller mags or "less firepower". What does that even mean? Smaller bullets with less powder behind them? We as a country need to take responsibility for the real issue and stop trying to blame inanimate objects. Gun violence over all is down and the only reason we are having these debates 5 times a day is because of mentally ill people getting their hands on weapons (not just guns). There are billions and billions of weapons of every shape and size, why not focus our efforts on the relatively few mentally ill people?
 
2013-01-25 03:35:06 PM  

GreenAdder: I don't want to talk about the second amendment or gun control right now. I think I'm just going to go to the store. Maybe I'll get a bottle of pop and some junk food. Then I'm going to sit down and play some video games. That sounds like fun.

You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?


Some hay for the donkey. Other than that I think I'm set. Found THIS next to the donkey cart video. I'm happy, but these chicks would be hotter with some Mini-14s.
 
2013-01-25 03:35:09 PM  

GreenAdder: I don't want to talk about the second amendment or gun control right now. I think I'm just going to go to the store. Maybe I'll get a bottle of pop and some junk food. Then I'm going to sit down and play some video games. That sounds like fun.

You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?


A couple of MexiCokes would do it for kittay, thanks :3
 
2013-01-25 03:35:43 PM  
BronyMedic:


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2013-01-25 03:38:57 PM  

vpb: We already do regulate cars. They have to have things like break lights for instance. Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.




You dont think we currently regulate guns? Do you think that all firearms have a safety because adding parts always makes a better product? Do you think they all weapons come with a trigger lock because the manufacture just had them laying around and though you'd like one?

When was the last time you bought a firearm?
 
2013-01-25 03:39:54 PM  

Kittypie070: BRAKE lights, muck.

/politely offers a celery to Mr Toitle


His heat/uv light went out about an hour ago. :(

/Got a year and a half out of it. Hadn't planned on a trip to Petsmart today
 
2013-01-25 03:41:40 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: We already do regulate cars. They have to have things like break lights for instance. Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.


You dont think we currently regulate guns? Do you think that all firearms have a safety because adding parts always makes a better product? Do you think they all weapons come with a trigger lock because the manufacture just had them laying around and though you'd like one?

When was the last time you bought a firearm?


I hate floating firing pins. I like to see my firing pin right on the hammer where it belongs.
 
2013-01-25 03:44:07 PM  

Blues_X: You can get an AK for just $150?


Yeah, but you have to mail them 7 box tops as well.
 
2013-01-25 03:44:55 PM  

muck4doo: I hate floating firing pins. I like to see my firing pin right on the hammer where it belongs.





I don't know about you, but if something makes me drop my weapon I want an extra round fired off when it hits the ground.

Serves the SOB right for shooting me.
 
2013-01-25 03:46:55 PM  
St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!
 
2013-01-25 03:53:20 PM  

muck4doo: BronyMedic: The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

To be fair, it's a lot harder to get an aortic sheer at 20 miles an hour. Or turn a pedestrian into a buff of pink mist.

A donkey and cart can do the same job as a truck.



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I'll see your Donkey, and raise you an Elephant.
 
2013-01-25 03:53:40 PM  
In before the Outraged RightTM assign all blame to the impudent brat whose glib remarks forced a concerned parent/True PatriotTM to take drastic action.
 
2013-01-25 03:55:06 PM  

Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!


Bolt action rifle that kicks like a mule that holds 54 in the cartridge and 1 in the chamber?

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2013-01-25 03:58:12 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!

Bolt action rifle that kicks like a mule that holds 54 in the cartridge and 1 in the chamber?


Mistyped?
 
2013-01-25 03:58:20 PM  

Amos Quito: I'll see your Donkey, and raise you an Elephant.




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Likes where your head is at.

Apos: In before the Outraged RightTM assign all blame to the impudent brat whose glib remarks forced a concerned parent/True PatriotTM to take drastic action.


Well you could have waited a few more hours then.
 
2013-01-25 03:59:00 PM  

timujin: Nadie_AZ: Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!

Bolt action rifle that kicks like a mule that holds 54 in the cartridge and 1 in the chamber?

Mistyped?


Dammit. I meant 4 ...
 
2013-01-25 04:05:14 PM  

muck4doo: Kittypie070: BRAKE lights, muck.

/politely offers a celery to Mr Toitle

His heat/uv light went out about an hour ago. :(

/Got a year and a half out of it. Hadn't planned on a trip to Petsmart today


Dude, buy some spares too. ;3
 
2013-01-25 04:05:56 PM  

Nadie_AZ: timujin: Nadie_AZ: Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!

Bolt action rifle that kicks like a mule that holds 54 in the cartridge and 1 in the chamber?

Mistyped?

Dammit. I meant 4 ...


In that case, I would have gotten it wrong too, I thought it was five.
 
2013-01-25 04:09:57 PM  

Amos Quito: muck4doo: BronyMedic: The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

To be fair, it's a lot harder to get an aortic sheer at 20 miles an hour. Or turn a pedestrian into a buff of pink mist.

A donkey and cart can do the same job as a truck.


[www.redletterchristians.org image 451x480]

I'll see your Donkey, and raise you an Elephant.


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Who needs a bus?
 
2013-01-25 04:13:26 PM  
fark. I work with this guy.
 
2013-01-25 04:13:57 PM  

GreenAdder:

You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?


Get some sour cream and onion chips with some dip, man, some beef jerky, some peanut butter. Get some Häagen-Dazs ice cream bars, a whole lot, make sure chocolate, gotta have chocolate, man. Some popcorn, red popcorn, graham crackers, graham crackers with marshmallows, the little marshmallows and little chocolate bars and we can make s'mores, man. Also, celery, grape jelly, Cap'n Crunch with the little Crunch berries, pizzas. We need two big pizzas, man, everything on 'em, with water, whole lotta water, and Funyons.
 
2013-01-25 04:14:15 PM  
Ok, now I am convinced that if Obama just proposed like 10 more bills for gun control, the gun nuts will become unhinged and prove Obama's point.
 
2013-01-25 04:14:30 PM  
$150 for an AK? Hmmm... sounds too cheap.
 
2013-01-25 04:14:58 PM  
Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

Then what's the farking point?  You may as well have pointed a hammer or an alligator at them.
 
2013-01-25 04:15:00 PM  
Sure, this gets greenlit, yet there's no post about the fifteen different tyrants who tried to overthrow America today but were stopped thanks to a hero with a machine gun.
 
2013-01-25 04:15:14 PM  

dv-ous: fark. I work with this guy.


I wouldn't send him any late TPS reports, bro.
 
2013-01-25 04:15:55 PM  
Sounds like we'd ought to stop talking about banning them and farkING BAN THEM.
 
2013-01-25 04:16:19 PM  

vpb: Blues_X: You can get an AK for just $150?

7.62x54R is a type of ammunition.

I think he paid $375 for the AK.clone


I went over that part of TFA several times. Bottom line; too loose, weak details.
 
2013-01-25 04:16:27 PM  

dv-ous: fark. I work with this guy.


Not anymore.
 
2013-01-25 04:16:28 PM  
I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.
 
2013-01-25 04:16:32 PM  
I really hope some enterprising prisoners beat the sh*t out of this guy. If only because the gun is ALWAYS LOADED.

/Farking dipshiat.
 
2013-01-25 04:16:50 PM  

muck4doo: BunkoSquad: This society just keeps getting more and more polite, doesn't it?

fark you


See!!!
 
2013-01-25 04:17:27 PM  
"The daughter said she wasn't scared because she didn't think the gun was loaded."

So many obituaries contain a similar sentence.
 
2013-01-25 04:17:49 PM  

Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.


Look here
VVVVVVVVVV

JesusJuice: Sounds like we'd ought to stop talking about banning them and farkING BAN THEM.

 
2013-01-25 04:18:25 PM  
Uh, wow, that's the most stupid article I've seen in some time.

An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

There is no "AK-47 style gun" chambered in 7.62x54R.

The fact the gun is 7.62x54R, and cost $150, almost certainly means it was a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle that hold five rounds, not an AK-47.

Holy shiat, that is a golden article.
 
2013-01-25 04:18:36 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!


Fortunately cars were not invented solely for taking human life.
 
2013-01-25 04:18:41 PM  

Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.


Indeed. Hobbyists above reduced violence.

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Ok, ok. Spray 30 bullets at 2 invaders.

//only way to be sure.
 
2013-01-25 04:19:08 PM  
Sounds about right. My dad is one of the "gubmint gon taek mah guns!" people. It's not about protecting your home, a shotgun can do that, it's about making yourself feel strong, or feared. It's about having some power over another human being for these people.

I once watched him hold a gun to my dog's head because it growled at him. Seriously.

/pro-gun
//anti-crazy people with guns
 
2013-01-25 04:19:12 PM  
Something isn't right. In the beginning they say he bought a rifle ( because the gub'mint, yeah, whatever, where'd that come from?) yet later they cite the sales receipts of two rifles that he sold, not bought. So.... che?


/it's not a toy you idiot
 
2013-01-25 04:19:16 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: Sure, this gets greenlit, yet there's no post about the fifteen different tyrants who tried to overthrow America today but were stopped thanks to a hero with a machine gun.


This gun saved two people's lives.
 
2013-01-25 04:19:25 PM  
Ironic that the actions of the people most scared they government is coming for their guns are giving more and more fodder to those that they claim are "comin' fer my guns".

It's a vicious cycle.
 
2013-01-25 04:19:26 PM  

GreenAdder: You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?


Can you get me some Skittles?
 
2013-01-25 04:20:50 PM  

theorellior: GreenAdder: You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?

Can you get me some Skittles?


I'll take an iced tea.
 
2013-01-25 04:21:01 PM  

dv-ous: fark. I work with this guy.


Wouldn't it be a shame if he fell out of a window?
 
2013-01-25 04:21:11 PM  
Now he's all alone, except for his precious, precious gun.

[shoots out light]
 
2013-01-25 04:21:20 PM  

Coco LaFemme: This here is a fine example of someone who is too stupid to own a firearm.  Bought the gun because he thought the "gub'mint" was going to ban it, and pointed it in his daughter's face for bringing home two B's instead of straight A's.

Take THAT man's gun and beat him upside the head with it......then don't give it back.


Oh, he's not getting it back. If convicted he will never be able to own a gun again.
 
2013-01-25 04:21:55 PM  
This is why background checks aren't as effective as they could be. People change and sometimes for the worse.
 
2013-01-25 04:22:00 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Well, if the daughter (and the mom) had been carrying their own guns, this wouldn't have happened, now would it? He probably only felt empowered to do this because he knew they WEREN'T armed and were therefore easy victims. Remember: an armed society is a polite society. I'm glad we can have situations like this crop up every now and then to serve as just illustrations of that very important point.


Not only brilliant, but quick on the draw, as it were.
 
2013-01-25 04:22:03 PM  

gopher321: I get the felling this 'Murikin fears a lot of things.


Terrorism isn't about what you can do to an enemy.

Terrorism is about what you can make an enemy willingly do to themselves.

This guy? Very, very terrorized. Probably by himself.
 
2013-01-25 04:22:06 PM  
Gun nuts are nuts who have guns. Who new?
 
2013-01-25 04:22:21 PM  

theorellior: The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

Fortunately cars were not invented solely for taking human life.


They sure do a good job of it though.
 
2013-01-25 04:22:42 PM  
Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?
 
2013-01-25 04:22:57 PM  

Apos: In before the Outraged RightTM assign all blame to the impudent brat whose glib remarks forced a concerned parent/True PatriotTM to take drastic action.


She was coming right at him!
 
2013-01-25 04:22:59 PM  
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/really? I'm the Weeners this?
 
2013-01-25 04:23:07 PM  
It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.
 
2013-01-25 04:23:20 PM  

ghare: Gun nuts are nuts who have guns. Who new?


You are an expert when it comes to nuts.
 
2013-01-25 04:23:25 PM  

Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.



But the disinformation is working very well. Fark is wall-to-wall with people who think that scary-looking rifles are assault rifles, and that people are dropping dead left and right because of them.
 
2013-01-25 04:23:40 PM  

bunner: dv-ous: fark. I work with this guy.

Wouldn't it be a shame if he fell out of a window?


Is this a movie reference I'm not getting?
 
2013-01-25 04:23:42 PM  
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Looks like a reasonable guy.
 
2013-01-25 04:23:43 PM  

gameshowhost: Apos: In before the Outraged RightTM assign all blame to the impudent brat whose glib remarks forced a concerned parent/True PatriotTM to take drastic action.

She was coming right at him!


Let me rephrase that
 
2013-01-25 04:24:07 PM  
Because People in power are Stupid:

She got two B's? She's just starting to fill out.

And anyway he didn't molest her or take kiddie porn pictures of her so there's no harm done.
 
2013-01-25 04:24:30 PM  
See, this story needs two tags. Both "scary" and "dumbass."
 
2013-01-25 04:24:30 PM  

bunner: dv-ous: fark. I work with this guy.

Wouldn't it be a shame if he fell out of a window?


Yeah, I would cry big tears. Of, like, sympathy.

*blows nose rudely*
 
2013-01-25 04:24:39 PM  
I think we're missing something from this story.

St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her

St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375.
 
2013-01-25 04:24:48 PM  

tricycleracer: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

Then what's the farking point?  You may as well have pointed a hammer or an alligator at them.


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"Is funny because they are all tools! Oh-HO!"

/mixing Family Guy in a Simpsons reference
//this is a dangerous experiment
///MOAR GUN THREADS PLZ
 
2013-01-25 04:25:57 PM  

vpb: muck4doo:

So government can have them. It's donkey and cart for you.

Well, if you are crazy enough to think you are going to overthrow the government or that anyone would want gun nuts to overthrow the government then you probably shouldn't be trusted with a donkey and cart either.

.
A bunch of people in Egypt, Libya, Syria, and Algeria would like to have a word with you.

People like you remind me of the royal loyalists from the late 1700's, they were wetting their panties too.
 
2013-01-25 04:26:16 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.


No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.
 
2013-01-25 04:26:21 PM  
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Or I point rifle at you.
 
2013-01-25 04:26:43 PM  

david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?


Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".
 
2013-01-25 04:26:52 PM  
I dated a girl in my youth who's father had a bullet inscribed with her name on it.

Needless to say she was pretty farked up. Guys, this is where crazy comes from.
 
2013-01-25 04:27:31 PM  

Gilligann: I think we're missing something from this story.

St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her

St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375.


Indeed
 
2013-01-25 04:27:34 PM  
Glad he's been arrested he's sounds like a dangerous tool.

Now why hasn't the wife been jailed for not protecting her daughter from cr*p like this? Not when the gun is pointed obviously but why the living fark didn't' she get her and her daughter to safety immediately after, OR call the cops and get this nut away from them?

Culpable, she is it.
 
2013-01-25 04:27:44 PM  

david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?


You must be furious at your inability to own rocket launchers and ICBMs.

//Arbitrary lines are arbitrary - you'll get over it after crying yourself to sleep 2 dozen times.
 
2013-01-25 04:28:06 PM  

muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.


Just say what you mean: "Waah! I have no sense of humor!"
 
2013-01-25 04:28:16 PM  

Gilligann: I think we're missing something from this story.

St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her

St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375.


He sold the guns after the incident
 
2013-01-25 04:28:29 PM  

Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".


How so?
 
2013-01-25 04:28:45 PM  

coeyagi: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

You must be furious at your inability to own rocket launchers and ICBMs.

//Arbitrary lines are arbitrary - you'll get over it after crying yourself to sleep 2 dozen times.


You can legally buy rocket launchers. Yes, actual functioning ones, in the majority of states.
 
2013-01-25 04:28:47 PM  
More importantly "Beeks Pizza goes up in flames in 3 alarm fire"
 
2013-01-25 04:29:02 PM  

muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.


And we have a bite.

//Don't you f*cking look like a gold star earner in Romper Room?
 
2013-01-25 04:29:04 PM  
*clicks onto Fark*

*Notices "gun and crazy parent"*

*Figures "yeah, not going near those commen......oh god, that's fox 9...please don;t be Minnesota, I can hear the damn jingles for that station in myhead...

*clicks*

fark.

DOUBLE fark, he's from my city.

Godamnitsomuch.
 
2013-01-25 04:29:12 PM  

tricycleracer: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

Then what's the farking point?  You may as well have pointed a hammer or an alligator at them.


I can't help but wonder if the girl had an alligator of her own this whole thing might never have happened. I don't know, I'm just asking the question.
 
2013-01-25 04:29:31 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.

Just say what you mean: "Waah! I have no sense of humor!"


Gun grabber humor. Hardy-har-har.
 
2013-01-25 04:29:33 PM  
Pretty typical. "Who's the man NOW?", as he points the gun at a woman and child. Because he wasn't threatening enough toward them before that.
 
2013-01-25 04:29:43 PM  
He should have just beat the kid with a bag of nickels, like I do when the kids come home with B's.
 
2013-01-25 04:29:55 PM  

vpb
(favorite: Blamed "right wing conspiracy " for Family Research Council shooting after shooter was identified as left wing gay activist)


>>>> However a license does not mean that you will get responsible ownership. See car ownership.


That's why we need to limit the firepower.

Just like we need to limit the free speech of tools like you that spew lies and conspiracy theories.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:12 PM  

odinsposse: [i429.photobucket.com image 750x600]

/really? I'm the Weeners this?


That should be updated. All guns are AR-15s now, apparently.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:17 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Or I point rifle at you.


Thank gods, some one finally got to what's important in this thread. I salute this fine Farker.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:18 PM  

Dimensio: vpb: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

We already do regulate cars.  They have to have things like break lights for instance.  Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.

What specific automobile models are banned by name?


I'm not terribly passionate on either side of this debate, but this got me wondering, and there actually are several.

Link
 
2013-01-25 04:30:22 PM  

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: tricycleracer: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

Then what's the farking point?  You may as well have pointed a hammer or an alligator at them.


You would be correct if we can be certain both the mother and daughter knew the weapon was not loaded.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:25 PM  

coeyagi: muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.

And we have a bite.

//Don't you f*cking look like a gold star earner in Romper Room?


I prefer those cups you can walk on. Have any?
 
2013-01-25 04:30:32 PM  

The Slush: He sold the guns after the incident


Well that makes more sense.

Thanks for pointing it out.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:33 PM  

topcon: coeyagi: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

You must be furious at your inability to own rocket launchers and ICBMs.

//Arbitrary lines are arbitrary - you'll get over it after crying yourself to sleep 2 dozen times.

You can legally buy rocket launchers. Yes, actual functioning ones, in the majority of states.


Any kind of rocket launcher? And what about ICBMs. What about ANY F*CKING KIND OF WEAPONRY available? If you are going to poutrage, go full poutrage.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:43 PM  

Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".


.
By the NRA you mean We The People. btw - The NRA gained 250,000 new members in just the past two weeks. I'll be joining them this weekend.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:45 PM  
Not really helping his cause is he?
 
2013-01-25 04:30:47 PM  

Apos: Which means that if she had received a few C's or lower, he would have blown her away.

FOTY material, for sure.


She got Bs, so he gave her a 100 foot head start.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:54 PM  

The Slush: Gilligann: I think we're missing something from this story.

St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her

St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375.

He sold the guns after the incident


Well... remorse is good, right? :-\
 
2013-01-25 04:30:55 PM  
If you want people to buy something you make them believe they are losing something.

I love all the people who really think that the White house isn't aware or couldn't calculate exactly what is happening right now.

If the president says he is going to take your guns, you are going to buy more guns and you are going to get mad at people who don't want guns. You are going to go onto Youtube and tell people that you are going to start killing people because Obama is black.

I missed the part where this became a huge brain-buster.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:57 PM  

ManateeGag: this is why we can't have nice things.


I came here to say this.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:59 PM  

SilentStrider: ajgeek: Sybarite: Asian dad?

Kirill Bartashevitch

Hm, nope.

Asian REDNECK dad. It's the only explanation.

Name sounds Russian, so he's not a redneck, he's just red.


/aisle seat please.


so hes communist? therefore, communists are bad and dangerous so obviously Obama is bad
 
2013-01-25 04:31:57 PM  

CrscntBufS: This is why background checks aren't as effective as they could be. People change and sometimes for the worse.


Right, but we should still have them for all firearms purchases. I'd wager until it became news, most Americans probably assumed all firearms required a background check.

It's a minor inconvenience that while not perfect, is something that should have been done a long time ago.
 
2013-01-25 04:33:02 PM  

The Slush: Gilligann: I think we're missing something from this story.

St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her

St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375.

He sold the guns after the incident


It takes rare insight to realize that you're a dumbass. Good on him.
 
2013-01-25 04:33:08 PM  
Did anybody else notice that the receipts for guns were both dated AFTER the alleged incident?
 
2013-01-25 04:33:20 PM  

david_gaithersburg: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

.
By the NRA you mean We The People. btw - The NRA gained 250,000 new members in just the past two weeks. I'll be joining them this weekend.


Nice deflection. Why do you hate existing gun laws that make it harder for bad people to buy guns? I thought you were all about "WHAA WHAA Don't Punish Me for Bad People!" Dude, you're making it harder on yourself by supporting the NRA.
 
2013-01-25 04:33:28 PM  
Hey, internet experts...

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AK action, chambered for 7.62x54R.
You're welcome.
 
2013-01-25 04:33:50 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: [25.media.tumblr.com image 407x405]

Or I point rifle at you.


That took entirely too long.
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2013-01-25 04:35:11 PM  
The only important part of this article is the casual reference to application of "terroristic" charges to a regular citizen where regular assault and domestic charges would have covered it. the slippery slope my ass, this is wet and wild versicle missile drop slide ride now . also, terroristic is not even a word in FF spell check. must not have fascist regime dictionary plug in yet...
 
2013-01-25 04:36:15 PM  

muck4doo: ghare: Gun nuts are nuts who have guns. Who new?

You are an expert when it comes to nuts.


Estás loco, hermano?
 
2013-01-25 04:36:53 PM  
If my son got a B instead of straight As I would simply take his iPhone away. He's not a precious snowflake.. He can have fun technology but he better work for it by doing chores and making academics his top priority. I also think he's a lot more scared about losing his iphone than he would be if someone pointed a gun at him.
 
2013-01-25 04:37:31 PM  

muck4doo: coeyagi: muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.

And we have a bite.

//Don't you f*cking look like a gold star earner in Romper Room?

I prefer those cups you can walk on. Have any?


fark Romper Room. Ms Julie can see out of my TV, and that means she's a witch.
 
2013-01-25 04:37:46 PM  

Pert: Did anybody else notice that the receipts for guns were both dated AFTER the alleged incident?


The receipts were from when he SOLD the guns AFTER the incident.
 
2013-01-25 04:37:55 PM  
 
2013-01-25 04:38:00 PM  
I believe this what us "gun nuts" warned about:

Step 1: Have a discussion about "reasonable" gun control measures.

Step 2: Billy Bob who doesn't have $1200 to spend on an AR15 and wasn't really planning on getting one, runs out after selling his second car and buys one.

Step 3: (around 2014) Billy Bob sells his AR15 for an eightball and $200 in cash.

Step 4: Latin Disciples uses the AR15 in question to kill 7 in a driveby shooting.

Even discussing an assault weapons ban was supremely stupid. What Obama should have done is firmly said there are no plans for a ban, waited a few months, and then decided what to do. About a gazillion people who were never in the market for a semiautomatic weapon now have one at home, thanks to the wonderful "national conversation" that we're having.
 
2013-01-25 04:38:07 PM  

Pert: Did anybody else notice that the receipts for guns were both dated AFTER the alleged incident?


I thought that too, but it looks like he sold them after that. Which doesn't make any sense if you think he bought them because of Obama's proposition. It's just the usual derpers trying to bend this story to help their political agenda. As a matter of fact, the whole damn story doesn't make sense unless you put it in a derp agenda format.
 
2013-01-25 04:38:13 PM  

GameSprocket: [kmsp.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]

Looks like a reasonable guy.


JTDC, why is it these people always, always, always look like they were fed a steady diet of lead as a child?
 
2013-01-25 04:38:50 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Not all gun related products are bad.

[www.desertknightnews.com image 400x374]


how many guns do you have to squeeze to get that much oil?
 
2013-01-25 04:39:00 PM  

Pert: Did anybody else notice that the receipts for guns were both dated AFTER the alleged incident?


It also says he sold the guns not that he bought them so once the guy figured out the cops were looking into it he tried to get rid of them will probably face harsher charges for tampering with evidence then for being a stupid fark and pointing the gun at his wife and kid
 
2013-01-25 04:39:11 PM  

muck4doo: Pert: Did anybody else notice that the receipts for guns were both dated AFTER the alleged incident?

I thought that too, but it looks like he sold them after that. Which doesn't make any sense if you think he bought them because of Obama's proposition. It's just the usual derpers trying to bend this story to help their political agenda. As a matter of fact, the whole damn story doesn't make sense unless you put it in a derp agenda format.


You should know all about derp, chico.
 
2013-01-25 04:39:32 PM  

jchic: So. He grabbed his gun during an argument, and made sure it was not loaded (yes, I know they're all loaded, bear with me) and then pointed it at his wife and daughter? What exactly was the point he was trying to make? The whole reason a gun exists is to shoot something so if you make sure that that gun can't shoot, what, exactly, are you trying to convey by pointing an unloaded gun at someone? If you get one more B I'll load this gun and then shoot you?


The magic gun fairy will put ammo in your chamber whenever you're not looking. If you can't look inside the chamber to see it's empty, you better assume it's loaded.

Everyone else, however, being further away from the gun than you, can't reasonably see that the gun is unloaded. So they're going to assume it's loaded. If you pointed it at them, they will have a completely rational reason to believe that you are pointing a loaded weapon at them and intend to destroy them with it. Why not? You just broke Rule 3. Why wouldn't they think you're the kind of idiot that would break Rule 1 as well.

And for this reason, this ardent Second Amendment supporter says that this dude doesn't get to have guns any more. Why? Because if you point a gun at someone for a reason that doesn't meet your state's use of force laws, if you're not in immediate fear of death or bodily harm, you're breaking a felony kinda law.
 
2013-01-25 04:40:03 PM  

muck4doo: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

How so?


There are plenty of examples, but the most egregious recent example is the Tiahrt Amendment
 
2013-01-25 04:40:58 PM  

muck4doo: ArcadianRefugee: muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.

Just say what you mean: "Waah! I have no sense of humor!"

Gun grabber humor. Hardy-har-har.


Dude, nobody here wants your pseudo-penis.
 
2013-01-25 04:41:02 PM  

xynix: If my son got a B instead of straight As I would simply take his iPhone away. He's not a precious snowflake.. He can have fun technology but he better work for it by doing chores and making academics his top priority. I also think he's a lot more scared about losing his iphone than he would be if someone pointed a gun at him.


You're that bad of a shot?

Relax, line up the sights, relax, hold your base, relax, pull (dont snap) the trigger

/now your child should show the proper amount of fear!
//i kid i kid
 
2013-01-25 04:41:04 PM  
See, I'm willing to believe that every gun-owning Farker is a paragon of responsibility and gun safety, but I simply can't be convinced that all of the people who legally own guns are likewise responsible and safe.

People have a tendency to do very irrational things when they are angry and/or frightened.

I don't care how responsible you are, and how many times you've given lectures on gun safety. Some people will just have a flip switched and suddenly they are doing something stupid like brandishing their gun. In fact, I feel that owning a gun makes it more likely that any anger or fright scenario will escalate to brandishing, and possibly using, that gun.
 
2013-01-25 04:41:27 PM  

ghare: muck4doo: ghare: Gun nuts are nuts who have guns. Who new?

You are an expert when it comes to nuts.

Estás loco, hermano?


And here goes ghare again, obsessed with the fact i am mexican. Dude. Get over it. We are all farkers here. Ever hear the song about how Jesus loves the little children? It's like that. No one obsesses that you are whatever race you are. We just know that you love nuts.
 
2013-01-25 04:43:00 PM  

ghare: muck4doo: Pert: Did anybody else notice that the receipts for guns were both dated AFTER the alleged incident?

I thought that too, but it looks like he sold them after that. Which doesn't make any sense if you think he bought them because of Obama's proposition. It's just the usual derpers trying to bend this story to help their political agenda. As a matter of fact, the whole damn story doesn't make sense unless you put it in a derp agenda format.

You should know all about derp, chico.


You really need help.
 
2013-01-25 04:43:37 PM  
It's ok guys, he looks like he drinks for the government.
 
2013-01-25 04:43:39 PM  

Amos Quito: Lionel Mandrake: Watch the libbies try to punish this patriot for using second amendment solutions to raise his kids.

What a "Second Amendment Solution" might look like


That was clever. :-D
 
2013-01-25 04:43:58 PM  
Another fine example of the average American gun owner!

Responsible, upstanding, a paragon of civility and self-control, a pillar of the community and a fine example to the rest of us.

Clearly, however, this single mistake isn't enough to condemn him. I mean, if his daughter had been packing her own heat, he would not likely have drawn his own weapon. An armed family is a polite family.

Go on. Tell me how this is yet another outlier and this schmuch shouldn't be seen as the 'average' gun owner.
 
2013-01-25 04:44:22 PM  

Cupajo: muck4doo: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

How so?

There are plenty of examples, but the most egregious recent example is the Tiahrt Amendment


Link? Nevermind, I'll google it.

iaazathot: muck4doo: ArcadianRefugee: muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.

Just say what you mean: "Waah! I have no sense of humor!"

Gun grabber humor. Hardy-har-har.

Dude, nobody here wants your pseudo-penis.


More gun grabber humor. Hardy-har-har
 
2013-01-25 04:44:49 PM  

Infernalist: Another fine example of the average American gun owner!

Responsible, upstanding, a paragon of civility and self-control, a pillar of the community and a fine example to the rest of us.

Clearly, however, this single mistake isn't enough to condemn him. I mean, if his daughter had been packing her own heat, he would not likely have drawn his own weapon. An armed family is a polite family.

Go on. Tell me how this is yet another outlier and this schmuch shouldn't be seen as the 'average' gun owner.


SCHMUCK. ffs, I need another drink.
 
2013-01-25 04:44:59 PM  

xynix: If my son got a B instead of straight As I would simply take his iPhone away. He's not a precious snowflake.. He can have fun technology but he better work for it by doing chores and making academics his top priority. I also think he's a lot more scared about losing his iphone than he would be if someone pointed a gun at him.


If my daughter came home with a B instead of straight A's I'd round a chamber in the high capacity clip and cock the barrell of my 30/30 assault weapon.

/I don't mean to brag, but yeah, I'm pretty hardcore.
 
2013-01-25 04:45:12 PM  
Stupid people buy assault rifles. Got it. Wait, didn't we know that already?
 
2013-01-25 04:45:58 PM  
Lionel Mandrake: Watch the libbies try to punish this patriot for using second amendment solutions to raise his kids.


What a "Second Amendment Solution" might look like


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If he's using that on his daughter, it's not really an improvement.
 
2013-01-25 04:47:18 PM  

Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!


THANK YOU

I absolutely adore how the headline screams Dad points AK-47 at daughter and yet the story states beyond any doubt at all that the weapon was not an AK-47.

I'd insert the journalist's guide to firearms here, but it has ceased to be funny. This isn't stupidity, it is a clear effort to create the image of a crisis that doesn't exist.

Having said that, dad's a dumbass who should both go to prison and lose the right to own a gun.
 
2013-01-25 04:48:36 PM  
See, this is an example of someone you SHOULD take guns away from!!!!
 
2013-01-25 04:48:45 PM  
The one thing I do agree with is closing the loopholes regarding background checks. I used to go to gun shows and I never understood how you can buy whatever you want from some dude without any sort of background check. They plan on closing that.
 
2013-01-25 04:49:29 PM  

JustGetItRight: Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!

THANK YOU

I absolutely adore how the headline screams Dad points AK-47 at daughter and yet the story states beyond any doubt at all that the weapon was not an AK-47.

I'd insert the journalist's guide to firearms here, but it has ceased to be funny. This isn't stupidity, it is a clear effort to create the image of a crisis that doesn't exist.

Having said that, dad's a dumbass who should both go to prison and lose the right to own a gun.


That definately has me breathing easier!

Oh good! The deadly weapon he pointed at his daugher was just a regular rifle, not an assautl rifle.

Geez, why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over this?
 
2013-01-25 04:49:45 PM  
B's? A's?

AK-47's go with double D's.
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2013-01-25 04:49:55 PM  

iaazathot: GameSprocket: [kmsp.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]

Looks like a reasonable guy.

JTDC, why is it these people always, always, always look like they were fed a steady diet of lead as a child?


Dad screams at child that, "By God, if lead was good enough for me to to eat as a child, it's darn sure gonna be good enough for a spoiled brat like you! Eat lead, sucker!"

Then points gun at daughter.
 
2013-01-25 04:50:19 PM  
FTFA: St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her. The message was seen by the classmate's mother, who reported it to a school social worker.

A social worker?!?! WTF! Are there no cops in this town?
 
2013-01-25 04:51:00 PM  

muck4doo: Cupajo: muck4doo: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

How so?

There are plenty of examples, but the most egregious recent example is the Tiahrt Amendment

Link? Nevermind, I'll google it.



What is the Tiahrt Amendment? Yeah, nice try there.
 
2013-01-25 04:51:31 PM  
Treat a gun like a toy and you should have the damn thing taken away. I don't care if it wasn't loaded, how freaking irresponsible and stupid is this guy??
 
2013-01-25 04:51:32 PM  
Bachmann's district?
 
2013-01-25 04:51:38 PM  

david_gaithersburg: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

.
By the NRA you mean We The People. btw - The NRA gained 250,000 new members in just the past two weeks. I'll be joining them this weekend.


Sucker. You ever notice how the NRA takes on more and more ridiculous stances as time goes on? That's because the NRA is a government net and they're slowly shaking out the few reasonable folks until they have a list of the crazy people with guns. You want the government to come take your guns on day 0? By all means, register with the NRA.
 
2013-01-25 04:52:18 PM  
Dear Asshats,
As a fan of the 2nd amendment, I enjoy a good debate on responsible gun ownership. I strongly believe that gun owners are by and large responsible people who should be trusted. I would greatly appreciate it if you would STOP PROVING ME WRONG!

Thanks.

/Still belive most gun owners are responsible
//These asshats make it really hard to defend that belief
///La la la, small percentage, la la la, I can't hear you
 
2013-01-25 04:52:18 PM  
Alright all you lefty gun haters. Ive decided rather than jump through all the govnmt hoops to get real Colt M-4 I'm going to buy an airsoft replica that is made of metal, I'm just a collector after all so it doesn't have to actually fire bullets. While I'm there I'm going to measure the full-sized M-60 airsoft replica to see if my M-14 barrel and receiver will fit into it. A functional semi-auto M-60, that would be cool.
 
2013-01-25 04:53:03 PM  

JustGetItRight
2013-01-25 04:47:18 PM

Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!

THANK YOU

Ummm guys..... are you familiar w/ PSL's? Not technically AK's, but ak style, sure.
 
2013-01-25 04:53:10 PM  

El_Swino: Hey, internet experts...

[www.centerfiresystems.com image 800x159]


AK action, chambered for 7.62x54R.
You're welcome.


Yeah, while AK-replicate weapons chambered in 7.62x54R certainly exist it seems unlikely they'd be going for only $150... particularly post Newtown. So, it seems more likely that it's a Mosin-Nagant.
 
2013-01-25 04:53:11 PM  

GameSprocket: [kmsp.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]

Looks like a reasonable guy.


Is that Dr. Wiley?

Megaman does not approve.
 
2013-01-25 04:53:13 PM  
A hundred year old bolt action "AK-47"...

The media isn't even trying to hide its trolling anymore.
 
2013-01-25 04:53:19 PM  

muck4doo: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: We already do regulate cars. They have to have things like break lights for instance. Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.


You dont think we currently regulate guns? Do you think that all firearms have a safety because adding parts always makes a better product? Do you think they all weapons come with a trigger lock because the manufacture just had them laying around and though you'd like one?

When was the last time you bought a firearm?

I hate floating firing pins. I like to see my firing pin right on the hammer where it belongs.


I like not cleaning my bolt and seeing how long it takes the pin to freeze in the forward position and cook off my clip.

/Responsible gun owner.
 
2013-01-25 04:54:07 PM  

MBooda: AK-47's go with double D's

flapjacks.
 
2013-01-25 04:54:10 PM  

Arthur Jumbles: FTFA: St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her. The message was seen by the classmate's mother, who reported it to a school social worker.

A social worker?!?! WTF! Are there no cops in this town?


Not that you would want to call first.

So I'm told.
 
2013-01-25 04:54:24 PM  

way south: A hundred year old bolt action "AK-47"...

The media isn't even trying to hide its trolling anymore.


Probably why more and more people are trusting them even less these days.

I thought there was a "Code of Honor" in journalism... or was that just an Old-Wives Tale?
 
2013-01-25 04:55:16 PM  

Citrate1007: Bachmann's district?


Nope. McCollum, probably.
 
2013-01-25 04:55:19 PM  

DeadPuppySociety: muck4doo: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: We already do regulate cars. They have to have things like break lights for instance. Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.


You dont think we currently regulate guns? Do you think that all firearms have a safety because adding parts always makes a better product? Do you think they all weapons come with a trigger lock because the manufacture just had them laying around and though you'd like one?

When was the last time you bought a firearm?

I hate floating firing pins. I like to see my firing pin right on the hammer where it belongs.

I like not cleaning my bolt and seeing how long it takes the pin to freeze in the forward position and cook off my clip.

/Responsible gun owner.


LOL!
 
2013-01-25 04:55:56 PM  
If he'd used an AR earlier she'd already have straight A's and be enrolling in nun school.
 
2013-01-25 04:56:22 PM  
An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.


 
2013-01-25 04:56:30 PM  
It's getting to the point where I'm going to go out and buy a pitbull, an AK and some bottle rockets. People keep telling me these things are dangerous. I should be dead by the end of next week.

Infernalist: Another fine example of the average American gun owner!

Responsible, upstanding, a paragon of civility and self-control, a pillar of the community and a fine example to the rest of us.

Clearly, however, this single mistake isn't enough to condemn him. I mean, if his daughter had been packing her own heat, he would not likely have drawn his own weapon. An armed family is a polite family.

Go on. Tell me how this is yet another outlier and this schmuch shouldn't be seen as the 'average' gun owner.


I think he is a responsible gun owner. He bought them and took them home, found out that he could not handle the responsibility and sold them back to a gun shop. Zero body count and no need to run to the ER. If the media wasn't looking for stories with the headline of "Durp durp AK bad Durp" we would have never heard of this guy or his family.

/wasn't even an AK
//they should hire Ice Cube, he knows what an AK looks like.
 
2013-01-25 04:56:47 PM  

BronyMedic: Amos Quito: You think he's been porking his daughter?

Okay. That made me laugh. Bravo, Sir. Bravo.

In all seriousness, coming from someone who sees a lot of abused kids come through, if that dad is willing to threaten his daughter at gunpoint for something, he's willing and probably in the current act of harming her in some other fashion, physically or emotionally. It's not really a stretch to assume or intervene with an investigation.

/wonder how many "falls" she's had in the last 5 years.


I think you're exactly right.

The fact that he also pushed his wife down to the ground and pointed the gun at her too tells me they've both been subjected to some form of abuse over the years.
 
2013-01-25 04:57:49 PM  
i'm confused (and i'm not reading through all of the comments to see if this was mentioned before)....

if he's worried about the government taking AK's away... why did he sell two of them?
 
2013-01-25 04:57:58 PM  

Maximer: way south: A hundred year old bolt action "AK-47"...

The media isn't even trying to hide its trolling anymore.

Probably why more and more people are trusting them even less these days.

I thought there was a "Code of Honor" in journalism... or was that just an Old-Wives Tale?


They're playing to their young, stupid, and knee-jerk audience.
 
2013-01-25 04:58:29 PM  

Maximer: El_Swino: Hey, internet experts...

[www.centerfiresystems.com image 800x159]


AK action, chambered for 7.62x54R.
You're welcome.

Yeah, while AK-replicate weapons chambered in 7.62x54R certainly exist it seems unlikely they'd be going for only $150... particularly post Newtown. So, it seems more likely that it's a Mosin-Nagant.


Well, you're the internet expert. Did you actually read that he'd bought the rifle for $150, or does the article say he sold it for $150? Maybe you should go back and check that before you decide what's likely or unlikely.
 
2013-01-25 04:59:25 PM  

hitlersbrain: Not really helping his cause is he?


^^^
 
2013-01-25 04:59:28 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Well, if the daughter (and the mom) had been carrying their own guns, this wouldn't have happened, now would it? He probably only felt empowered to do this because he knew they WEREN'T armed and were therefore easy victims. Remember: an armed society is a polite society. I'm glad we can have situations like this crop up every now and then to serve as just illustrations of that very important point.


You would have had three dead bodies.

NTTAWWT
 
2013-01-25 04:59:29 PM  
I hope this idiot gets convicted of a felony so that he can't ever own firearms again.
 
2013-01-25 04:59:52 PM  

KidneyStone: Watch out, a bolt action 5 shot rifle is now an assault rifle


If it is a Springfield, Mauser, Enfield, or any other WWII rifle with a bayonet lug, you can safely bet the farm it will be next on the list.
 
2013-01-25 04:59:57 PM  

coeyagi: Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.

Indeed. Hobbyists above reduced violence.

[alicia-logic.com image 490x290]

Ok, ok. Spray 30 bullets at 2 invaders.

//only way to be sure.


Too bad a semiautomatic rifle doesn't "spray", since it isn't a selective fire weapon. Nice try though.
 
2013-01-25 05:00:50 PM  

Befuddled: I hope this idiot gets convicted of a felony so that he can't ever own firearms again.


Good thing he sold them.
 
2013-01-25 05:01:26 PM  
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2013-01-25 05:01:29 PM  

lostcat: That definately has me breathing easier!

Oh good! The deadly weapon he pointed at his daugher was just a regular rifle, not an assautl rifle.

Geez, why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over this?


Sensationalism should be combated when encountered or we end up with unhinged individuals wiped up into a frenzy. Case in point, the topic of the thread. Convincing the public that it's surrounded by army machine guns is sensationalism though admittedly less so than, say, convincing half the country SARS was going to kill us all.
 
2013-01-25 05:03:46 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Exactly, it is a stupid argument. As is saying all we need is gun will smaller mags or "less firepower". What does that even mean? Smaller bullets with less powder behind them? We as a country need to take responsibility for the real issue and stop trying to blame inanimate objects. Gun violence over all is down and the only reason we are having these debates 5 times a day is because of mentally ill people getting their hands on weapons (not just guns). There are billions and billions of weapons of every shape and size, why not focus our efforts on the relatively few mentally ill people?


In gun control threads, you are only allowed to talk about wanting to take away guns or wanting to kill Obama with a gun because he is black.
 
2013-01-25 05:03:48 PM  

KidneyStone: El_Swino: Hey, internet experts...

[www.centerfiresystems.com image 800x159]


AK action, chambered for 7.62x54R.
You're welcome.

Not for $150, Mr. Expert


I'm not claiming to be an expert, sir. I'm just claiming that I can read.
 
2013-01-25 05:04:28 PM  
Even if you wanted a rifle, why would you pick the Kalashikov 47? They're fun as hell, but only with the fire select switch enabled. As semi-automatics they're just a really shiatty version of a standard carbine, and there are a hundred better models available in the same calibers that are more accurate and less prone to malfunction.

AK-47s are literally military surplus gear from second-world nations, have some pride and sense and buy American.

DeadPuppySociety: I like not cleaning my bolt and seeing how long it takes the pin to freeze in the forward position and cook off my clip.

/Responsible gun owner.


If you don't take care of your equipment, it will malfunction. More at 11.

//People that don't occasionally check their brake fluid are a danger to everyone around them, too, doesn't make 1800s style lever brakes the superior solution.
 
2013-01-25 05:04:44 PM  

hdhale: coeyagi: Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.

Indeed. Hobbyists above reduced violence.

[alicia-logic.com image 490x290]

Ok, ok. Spray 30 bullets at 2 invaders.

//only way to be sure.

Too bad a semiautomatic rifle doesn't "spray", since it isn't a selective fire weapon. Nice try though.



It's like the dishonesty is contagious.
 
2013-01-25 05:05:16 PM  

jchic: impaler: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1

So.  He grabbed his gun during an argument, and made sure it was not loaded (yes, I know they're all loaded, bear with me) and then pointed it at his wife and daughter?  What exactly was the point he was trying to make?  The whole reason a gun exists is to shoot something so if you make sure that that gun can't shoot, what, exactly, are you trying to convey by pointing an unloaded gun at someone?  If you get one more B I'll load this gun and then shoot you?


The point he was trying to make is that he's one of the majority of male legal gun owners who end up shooting up their own families. Also, he has a mental illness and needs to have his toys taken away.
 
2013-01-25 05:05:17 PM  
I would be fine with the government banning him.
 
2013-01-25 05:05:50 PM  

muck4doo: Befuddled: I hope this idiot gets convicted of a felony so that he can't ever own firearms again.

Good thing he sold them.



Yes, otherwise they would have been confiscated by now.


/Down payment on a lawyer?
 
2013-01-25 05:06:19 PM  
Google image search on: "7.62x54R"

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Looks "AK-47-style to me. Plus it's semi-automatic.


Here's the other gun he bought:

Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39

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Again...looks like an AK-47.

Article doesn't say which gun he was brandishing. Based on the fact that the daughter said it was an AK-47, I'm going with the Zastava.

Why are the gun people trying so hard to make this into an issue of the "media" tricking the public?
 
2013-01-25 05:06:25 PM  

ghare: Gun nuts are nuts who have guns. Who new?


Not me, I've been here since 2010.
 
2013-01-25 05:07:24 PM  

impaler: You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1


If his dad had taught him gun safety rules, then he would know your #1 and ten or twelve other important rules. That would include "never point a gun at anything you are not willing to shoot" and my favorite: if you do point a gun at someone, that person is entitled to assume you mean to kill and act in self defense. Meaning that even IF your gun is truly unloaded, someone still might die.
 
2013-01-25 05:07:31 PM  

KidneyStone: What a $150 "AK style" weapon looks like:

[api.ning.com image 600x354]


Up until this current "scare" and knee jerk reactionary bullshiat you could buy an AK47 for under $200. I picked one up on gunbroker.com for $300 a few years ago and it came with 3 additional clips. I've since traded it for a double-barrel I haven't even used. I should have held on to it because they're not going for $600+
 
2013-01-25 05:08:06 PM  

topcon: Uh, wow, that's the most stupid article I've seen in some time.

An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

There is no "AK-47 style gun" chambered in 7.62x54R.

The fact the gun is 7.62x54R, and cost $150, almost certainly means it was a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle that hold five rounds, not an AK-47.

Holy shiat, that is a golden article.


Probably a Dragunov. It looks like an "AK style" rifle, especially to a journalist.
 
2013-01-25 05:09:00 PM  

generallyso: lostcat: That definately has me breathing easier!

Oh good! The deadly weapon he pointed at his daugher was just a regular rifle, not an assautl rifle.

Geez, why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over this?

Sensationalism should be combated when encountered or we end up with unhinged individuals wiped up into a frenzy. Case in point, the topic of the thread. Convincing the public that it's surrounded by army machine guns is sensationalism though admittedly less so than, say, convincing half the country SARS was going to kill us all.


Read the article again. Don't just go by what the gun people on Fark tell you is true.
 
2013-01-25 05:09:44 PM  
"The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375."

So, something like this, right?

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2013-01-25 05:10:15 PM  
 
2013-01-25 05:10:33 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375."

So, something like this, right?

[cdn2.armslist.com image 640x311]


Please, you are throwing facts into the mix and that just isn't how we do things here.
 
2013-01-25 05:11:15 PM  
Another day, another Nutty Raving Asshole doing something stupid with a gun.
 
2013-01-25 05:12:40 PM  

way south: A hundred year old bolt action "AK-47"...

The media isn't even trying to hide its trolling anymore.


Every reporter should be required to take a multiday training course on guns.
 
2013-01-25 05:13:10 PM  

lostcat: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375."

So, something like this, right?

[cdn2.armslist.com image 640x311]

Please, you are throwing facts into the mix and that just isn't how we do things here.


The fact he sold it that day? or the fact it is scary looking?
 
2013-01-25 05:13:17 PM  

DeadPuppySociety: topcon: Uh, wow, that's the most stupid article I've seen in some time.

An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

There is no "AK-47 style gun" chambered in 7.62x54R.

The fact the gun is 7.62x54R, and cost $150, almost certainly means it was a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle that hold five rounds, not an AK-47.

Holy shiat, that is a golden article.

Probably a Dragunov. It looks like an "AK style" rifle, especially to a journalist.


Blah, I fail at reading comprehension. Dragunovs don't go for $150.
 
2013-01-25 05:13:49 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!


You do realize how easily that can be turned around, right? All we need to do is post a "SPEED LIMIT 120" on your street.
 
2013-01-25 05:14:19 PM  
Let me see if I figured this out yet. He was afraid the gub'mint was going to take his weapons so he sold them before the gub'mint could take them away?

/something is bugging me to no end
 
2013-01-25 05:16:52 PM  

vpb: We already do regulate cars. They have to have things like break

[sic] lights for instance.

No, cars do NOT have to have brake lights or other gear. You're thinking of "use on public roads" rules. NASCAR, Formula 1, etc have their own rules. Antique cars have basically no rules.

Are you promoting 7 round magazine limit? How 'bout a 7 gallon gas tank limit? Do you need eight gallons of gas? Prove it, Citizen!
 
2013-01-25 05:16:53 PM  

Rich Cream: Let me see if I figured this out yet. He was afraid the gub'mint was going to take his weapons so he sold them before the gub'mint could take them away?

/something is bugging me to no end


Like i said upthread, this only makes sense when you look at it from a derp angle. Either way, you should be very afraid. Of something.
 
2013-01-25 05:16:56 PM  
Hey, it's just a matter of motivation...

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2013-01-25 05:18:13 PM  
Wish I could get an SVD for $150 I'd sell it and make a few grand.
 
2013-01-25 05:19:00 PM  

Kibbler: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

You do realize how easily that can be turned around, right? All we need to do is post a "SPEED LIMIT 120" on your street.


It would be almost funny to watch you try to do it. Be happy with your donkey and cart, peasant.
 
2013-01-25 05:21:22 PM  

Mimic_Octopus: The only important part of this article is the casual reference to application of "terroristic" charges to a regular citizen where regular assault and domestic charges would have covered it. the slippery slope my ass, this is wet and wild versicle missile drop slide ride now . also, terroristic is not even a word in FF spell check. must not have fascist regime dictionary plug in yet...


Pretty much my line of thought. Around here we usually hear this kind of crime called assault with a deadly weapon.
 
2013-01-25 05:22:10 PM  
I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.
 
2013-01-25 05:22:41 PM  

JesusJuice: Sounds like we'd ought to stop talking about banning them and farkING BAN THEM.


Okay, start by banning cops from having guns.

Good luck enforcing the next step bigot.
 
2013-01-25 05:22:44 PM  

PDid: Private arsenal doesn't protect gun dealer


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_F._Kennedy

Armed secret service doesn't protect president.
 
2013-01-25 05:23:05 PM  
He brought her into the world......

...dumbass. Hope he is neutered....
 
2013-01-25 05:23:10 PM  

ProfessorOhki: david_gaithersburg: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

.
By the NRA you mean We The People. btw - The NRA gained 250,000 new members in just the past two weeks. I'll be joining them this weekend.

Sucker. You ever notice how the NRA takes on more and more ridiculous stances as time goes on? That's because the NRA is a government net and they're slowly shaking out the few reasonable folks until they have a list of the crazy people with guns. You want the government to come take your guns on day 0? By all means, register with the NRA.


That is nice. May I borrow it to frighten the townies with?
 
2013-01-25 05:23:13 PM  

lostcat: JustGetItRight: Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!

THANK YOU

I absolutely adore how the headline screams Dad points AK-47 at daughter and yet the story states beyond any doubt at all that the weapon was not an AK-47.

I'd insert the journalist's guide to firearms here, but it has ceased to be funny. This isn't stupidity, it is a clear effort to create the image of a crisis that doesn't exist.

Having said that, dad's a dumbass who should both go to prison and lose the right to own a gun.

That definately has me breathing easier!

Oh good! The deadly weapon he pointed at his daugher was just a regular rifle, not an assautl rifle.

Geez, why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over this?



The fact that he pointed ANY gun at his child is an inexcusable act sufficient to warrant immediate castration. IDGAF what they do to him.

As to why we're bent out of shape? The headline is a lie written for no purpose other than to sensationalize the story.

It has been posted in many other threads but I'll point out again that rifles of all types were used to murder 323 people last year - less than 1/4 of the number murdered were the weapons were hands and feet. There is no assault weapons scourge, yet without it there is no momentum for new gun laws. Gotta keep saying AR-15 and AK-47 to make folks think they're everywhere and that the average citizen is in imminent peril.

I've been shooting guns since I was 5 or so. I'm now 45 and I've never been an NRA member because I didn't think their stance was realistic or even good. I thought 'slippery slope' and gun grabbers theory was unrealistic. I don't own any tactical style rifle or a handgun with a magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds nor do I plan on buying one but I'm joining the NRA. New York and the senator from California have changed my mind and shown me I was wrong. They're trying to launch a movement that will end with them coming for my shotgun and the folks writing headlines like this one are complicit. That's why we're bent out of shape.
 
2013-01-25 05:23:56 PM  
FTFA:

According to the charges, 52-year-old Kirill Bartashevitch recently purchased the AK-47 due to fears that such weapons would be banned under President Obama's push for gun control legislation.


...

St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.


The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed it sold Bartashevitch sold[sic] a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375.


_________________

The problem here is that the copy editor didn't catch the error. The artcle has made mention of two guns purchased, then again two reciepts for the purchases. None of the lead-up mentions him selling a gun. There is an error with the use of the word "sold." This seems to be what so many people are latching onto as proof that the media is embelishing the story.

The media is just not copy-editing its work well enough.

The daughter is an American, public-high-school-attending teenager. If anyone in that demographic doesn't know what an AK-47 looks like, I'll eat my game controller.
 
2013-01-25 05:24:21 PM  

Kittypie070: ProfessorOhki: david_gaithersburg: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

.
By the NRA you mean We The People. btw - The NRA gained 250,000 new members in just the past two weeks. I'll be joining them this weekend.

Sucker. You ever notice how the NRA takes on more and more ridiculous stances as time goes on? That's because the NRA is a government net and they're slowly shaking out the few reasonable folks until they have a list of the crazy people with guns. You want the government to come take your guns on day 0? By all means, register with the NRA.

That is nice. May I borrow it to frighten the townies with?


I would be honored. Just don't attribute it to me; those folks have guns.
 
2013-01-25 05:24:33 PM  
lotta flailing gun nuts in here today.

probably mad that no one died in this latest example of gun nuttery.
 
2013-01-25 05:24:44 PM  

Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!


http://www.classicfirearms.com/long-guns/russian-vepr2-54r-rifle
 
2013-01-25 05:24:52 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.


About what? 100 year old AK-47's?
 
2013-01-25 05:25:00 PM  
Oh, I was going to my mom's for dinner the other day. My brother always carries a .38 on his hip. My wife informed me that he told her that "I've got a bullet with your name on it." They are always kidding around back and forth. I caught my brother on the way into the house and said, "I know you were just kidding about the bullet thing, but that is bullshiat and NOT acceptable and it better not happen again."

Just because you have the right to own a firearm, doesn't mean you're smart enough to own one.
 
2013-01-25 05:25:15 PM  
Nothing but the best for our nation's responsible gun owners!
 
2013-01-25 05:26:32 PM  

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?


No.
 
2013-01-25 05:26:37 PM  

Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.


http://www.classicfirearms.com/long-guns/russian-vepr2-54r-rifle
 
2013-01-25 05:27:18 PM  

lostcat: Why are the gun people trying so hard to make this into an issue of the "media" tricking the public?


It's all they have left, and people buy the "liberal" media lie hook line and sinker, when the media really could care less about which side they are on besides the one that gets them the most ad revenue possible.

Right now, that is stoking fears among the gun nuts and grabbers.
 
2013-01-25 05:27:44 PM  

Infernalist: lotta flailing gun nuts in here today.

probably mad that no one died in this latest example of gun nuttery.


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2013-01-25 05:28:23 PM  
Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."
 
2013-01-25 05:28:34 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?

No.


Bolt action AK-47s?
 
2013-01-25 05:29:11 PM  

topcon: Uh, wow, that's the most stupid article I've seen in some time.

An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

There is no "AK-47 style gun" chambered in 7.62x54R.

The fact the gun is 7.62x54R, and cost $150, almost certainly means it was a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle that hold five rounds, not an AK-47.

Holy shiat, that is a golden article.


not for $150 but... rusty, cracked stock, barrel shot out... maybe, or just not a good one like:

http://www.classicfirearms.com/long-guns/russian-vepr2-54r-rifle
 
2013-01-25 05:30:43 PM  

Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."


Seriously.

I spend a lot of time in Japan and a little less time in Cambodia.

A lot of people in Cambodia are armed. Very few people in Japan are armed.

Guess where I feel safer? And where I am statistically safer?
 
2013-01-25 05:30:52 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: The point he was trying to make is that he's one of the majority of male legal gun owners who end up shooting up their own families.


The majority of male legal gun owners end up shooting their families. Thanks.

Around 43% of the men in America own a gun. That's about 100,000,000 people. Assuming they at least kill one, I wonder what we're going to do with those 50,000,000 bodies.
 
2013-01-25 05:31:20 PM  
Before anyone defends this man, actually read this from TFA:

According to the charges, 52-year-old Kirill Bartashevitch recently purchased the AK-47 due to fears that such weapons would be banned under President Obama's push for gun control legislation.

St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her. The message was seen by the classmate's mother, who reported it to a school social worker.

In an interview with the social worker, the victim said they were arguing about her grades when she swore at her father and said she "hated" him. At that point, Bartashevitch grabbed his newly-purchased gun and pointed it at his daughter.


If you dare try to argue this man as a responsible gun owner or that responsible gun owners may have to fear similar treatment, I'll say this is why you all are losing the argument. Being such disingenuous, uncritical asshats works under "the Big Tent" but it just turns anyone undecided off from considering a thing you say.
 
2013-01-25 05:31:29 PM  

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?

No.

Bolt action AK-47s?


No, I don't waste time with parsing models. Fool's errand.
 
2013-01-25 05:31:30 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?

No.


Maybe it was a Glock? Anyone consider that?
 
2013-01-25 05:32:28 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?

No.

Bolt action AK-47s?

No, I don't waste time with parsing models. Fool's errand.


It was scary looking? Someone saw it and got scared?
 
2013-01-25 05:34:28 PM  

Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."


LOL, when was the old west "polite"? I realize it wasn't like it is in the movies but they weren't "polite" either. What a moronic thing to say.

The mafia was a sort of their own society and they were all armed. Were they polite?
 
2013-01-25 05:34:31 PM  

Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."


Yeah, I've never gotten that whole "armed society is a polite society" thing. What, are they saying people with guns are likely to shoot people who are rude?

And this is supposed to make me feel better about other gun owners?
 
2013-01-25 05:34:38 PM  

impaler: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1


Plus B. Never point a weapon at anyone unless you are going to fire.
 
2013-01-25 05:34:52 PM  

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?

No.

Bolt action AK-47s?

No, I don't waste time with parsing models. Fool's errand.

It was scary looking? Someone saw it and got scared?


Just saying I told you so. I'll tell you again tomorrow.
 
2013-01-25 05:35:30 PM  
Oh, and does he get to keep the guns?
 
2013-01-25 05:36:00 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?

No.

Bolt action AK-47s?

No, I don't waste time with parsing models. Fool's errand.

It was scary looking? Someone saw it and got scared?

Just saying I told you so. I'll tell you again tomorrow.


So.

I can do it too. :p
 
2013-01-25 05:36:40 PM  

Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."


Somalia has 9.1 guns per 100 people. The US has 88.8. Where did you get the idea that Somalia is heavily armed?
 
2013-01-25 05:36:55 PM  

Lorelle: Another day, another Nutty Raving Asshole doing something stupid with a gun.


I would remind you that this so-called "Nutty Raving Asshole" was a responsible, law-abiding gun owner. Right up to the time he, y'know, threatened his family with the gun.

In fact, wasn't there another guy who was a responsible, law-abiding gun owner in the news lately? Until he, y'know, shot a bunch of schoolkids.

My brother-in-law isn't allowed to buy or own guns because once, a really long time ago, he threatened his wife (my wife's sister) with one of their guns. So now she has to buy all the guns for the household, and he's only allowed to use them whenever he feels like it to do anything he wants to.
 
2013-01-25 05:37:05 PM  

zabadu: Oh, and does he get to keep the guns?


Depends on if he gets a felony or not ;)
 
2013-01-25 05:37:16 PM  

zabadu: Oh, and does he get to keep the guns?


He sold them because he was afraid of obama, or some dumb shiat made up in subby and the authors mind.
 
2013-01-25 05:37:19 PM  

JustGetItRight: Princess Ryans Knickers: The point he was trying to make is that he's one of the majority of male legal gun owners who end up shooting up their own families.

The majority of male legal gun owners end up shooting their families. Thanks.

Around 43% of the men in America own a gun. That's about 100,000,000 people. Assuming they at least kill one, I wonder what we're going to do with those 50,000,000 bodies.


100,000,000 x 1 = 50,000,000?

/Number'd be more like 70m anyway.
 
2013-01-25 05:37:23 PM  
Every teenager hates her dad at some point. It's part of growing up. However, an unlucky few are completely justified in that feeling.