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2013-01-25 02:14:48 PM
Well, if the daughter (and the mom) had been carrying their own guns, this wouldn't have happened, now would it? He probably only felt empowered to do this because he knew they WEREN'T armed and were therefore easy victims. Remember: an armed society is a polite society. I'm glad we can have situations like this crop up every now and then to serve as just illustrations of that very important point.
 
2013-01-25 02:14:59 PM
Asian dad?

Kirill Bartashevitch

Hm, nope.
 
2013-01-25 02:17:14 PM
I get the felling this 'Murikin fears a lot of things.
 
2013-01-25 02:17:30 PM
You can get an AK for just $150?
 
2013-01-25 02:22:44 PM
Which means that if she had received a few C's or lower, he would have blown her away.

FOTY material, for sure.
 
2013-01-25 02:25:33 PM

Sybarite: Asian dad?

Kirill Bartashevitch

Hm, nope.


Asian REDNECK dad. It's the only explanation.
 
2013-01-25 02:26:55 PM

ajgeek: Sybarite: Asian dad?

Kirill Bartashevitch

Hm, nope.

Asian REDNECK dad. It's the only explanation.


Name sounds Russian, so he's not a redneck, he's just red.


/aisle seat please.
 
2013-01-25 02:28:09 PM
Watch the libbies try to punish this patriot for using second amendment solutions to raise his kids.
 
2013-01-25 02:29:15 PM
Fool.

He could have pointed a shotgun or a pistol, but no, it had to be an ASSAULT WEAPON, and now he's on Fark.
 
2013-01-25 02:31:28 PM
She got two B's? She's just starting to fill out.
 
2013-01-25 02:33:26 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Watch the libbies try to punish this patriot for using second amendment solutions to raise his kids.



images2.opticsplanet.com

What a "Second Amendment Solution" might look like
 
2013-01-25 02:34:19 PM
SilentStrider: ajgeek: Sybarite: Asian dad?

Kirill Bartashevitch

Hm, nope.

Asian REDNECK dad. It's the only explanation.

Name sounds Russian, so he's not a redneck, he's just red.


Better dead than red!

/death is a preferable alternative ...
 
2013-01-25 02:34:19 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: She got two B's? She's just starting to fill out.



Heh!

No wonder daddy's nervous.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-25 02:36:28 PM

Blues_X: You can get an AK for just $150?


7.62x54R is a type of ammunition.

I think he paid $375 for the AK.
 
2013-01-25 02:37:35 PM
Gun Owners of PeaceTM strike again
 
2013-01-25 02:41:06 PM

Sybarite: Asian dad?

Kirill Bartashevitch

Hm, nope.


Bartashevitch could be an Asian name.
 
2013-01-25 02:41:40 PM
Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1
 
2013-01-25 02:43:11 PM
this is why we can't have nice things.
 
2013-01-25 02:43:35 PM
"terroristic"? Didn't even know that was a word.

Was that really terrorism though? Oh right. Everything is terrorism now.
 
2013-01-25 02:44:42 PM

impaler: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1


Thank you. This can't be stated enough. And don't ever point it at anything you aren't willing to destroy.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-25 02:45:59 PM

Mugato: "terroristic"? Didn't even know that was a word.

Was that really terrorism though? Oh right. Everything is terrorism now.


Threatening to kill someone is a terroristic threat.
 
2013-01-25 02:50:03 PM

impaler: You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1



4) Do you still want to point the gun at someone just to scare them? Don't cause it could be loaded


However a license does not mean that you will get responsible ownership. See car ownership.


img685.imageshack.us
 
2013-01-25 02:50:45 PM
Never use an AK on a teenager

/that's what shotguns are for
 
2013-01-25 02:53:07 PM

impaler: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1


So.  He grabbed his gun during an argument, and made sure it was not loaded (yes, I know they're all loaded, bear with me) and then pointed it at his wife and daughter?  What exactly was the point he was trying to make?  The whole reason a gun exists is to shoot something so if you make sure that that gun can't shoot, what, exactly, are you trying to convey by pointing an unloaded gun at someone?  If you get one more B I'll load this gun and then shoot you?
 
2013-01-25 02:53:20 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never use an AK on a teenager

/that's what shotguns are for


I thought shotguns were used to force the guy who knocked her up to marry her.
 
2013-01-25 02:53:21 PM
This here is a fine example of someone who is too stupid to own a firearm.  Bought the gun because he thought the "gub'mint" was going to ban it, and pointed it in his daughter's face for bringing home two B's instead of straight A's.

Take THAT man's gun and beat him upside the head with it......then don't give it back.
 
2013-01-25 02:53:48 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: impaler: You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1


4) Do you still want to point the gun at someone just to scare them? Don't cause it could be loaded


However a license does not mean that you will get responsible ownership. See car ownership.


[img685.imageshack.us image 475x307]


LOL! She must have got lessons from my ex. All she needs is some fast food in her left hand.
 
2013-01-25 02:54:10 PM

Mugato: "terroristic"? Didn't even know that was a word.

Was that really terrorism though? Oh right. Everything is terrorism now.



Terrorism is the new black.
 
2013-01-25 02:55:10 PM

Coco LaFemme: This here is a fine example of someone who is too stupid to own a firearm.  Bought the gun because he thought the "gub'mint" was going to ban it, and pointed it in his daughter's face for bringing home two B's instead of straight A's.

Take THAT man's gun and beat him upside the head with it......then don't give it back.


Something tells me he wasn't a straight A student either.
 
2013-01-25 02:56:13 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never use an AK on a teenager

/that's what shotguns are for


You know, Rock Salt won't really kill you, but it'll sure act as an effective behavioral modifier.

At any rate, and in all seriousness, this is insane. What responsible gun owner, let alone decent human parent, would threaten their OWN CHILD with a rifle. Period. At the very least, it's the basic definition of emotional abuse, and probably an indicator that something else non-kosher is going on in the house.

People like this need to be beat upside the head (Sorry, your rights end where my nose begins logic on this one. You do not have the right to threaten a CHILD with a rifle because of their freakin' report card) and be mandated to seek mental health evaluation and care.
 
2013-01-25 02:56:42 PM
He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

As we are all likely to do during a heated, physical exchange.
 
2013-01-25 03:00:42 PM

BronyMedic: At any rate, and in all seriousness, this is insane. What responsible gun owner, let alone decent human parent, would threaten their OWN CHILD with a rifle. Period. At the very least, it's the basic definition of emotional abuse, and probably an indicator that something else non-kosher is going on in the house.



You think he's been porking his daughter?
 
2013-01-25 03:02:24 PM
This society just keeps getting more and more polite, doesn't it?
 
2013-01-25 03:03:25 PM

BunkoSquad: This society just keeps getting more and more polite, doesn't it?


fark you
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-25 03:03:50 PM
The Stealth Hippopotamus:

However a license does not mean that you will get responsible ownership. See car ownership.


That's why we need to limit the firepower.
 
2013-01-25 03:09:21 PM
Not all gun related products are bad.

www.desertknightnews.com
 
2013-01-25 03:13:36 PM

Amos Quito: You think he's been porking his daughter?


Okay. That made me laugh. Bravo, Sir. Bravo.

In all seriousness, coming from someone who sees a lot of abused kids come through, if that dad is willing to threaten his daughter at gunpoint for something, he's willing and probably in the current act of harming her in some other fashion, physically or emotionally. It's not really a stretch to assume or intervene with an investigation.

/wonder how many "falls" she's had in the last 5 years.
 
2013-01-25 03:18:10 PM

vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.

speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!
 
2013-01-25 03:19:36 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!


To be fair, it's a lot harder to get an aortic sheer at 20 miles an hour. Or turn a pedestrian into a buff of pink mist.
 
2013-01-25 03:20:45 PM

BronyMedic: The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

To be fair, it's a lot harder to get an aortic sheer at 20 miles an hour. Or turn a pedestrian into a buff of pink mist.


A donkey and cart can do the same job as a truck.
 
2013-01-25 03:20:53 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?!


Yes. Especially in emergencies. More so than we need assault rifles.

/not for gun control
//stupid argument
 
2013-01-25 03:21:40 PM

Mugato: The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?!

Yes. Especially in emergencies. More so than we need assault rifles.

/not for gun control
//stupid argument


So government can have them. It's donkey and cart for you.
 
2013-01-25 03:23:18 PM

muck4doo: A donkey and cart can do the same job as a truck.


images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-01-25 03:23:46 PM
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-25 03:24:13 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!


We already do regulate cars.  They have to have things like break lights for instance.  Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.
 
2013-01-25 03:26:35 PM

Amos Quito: Fool.

He could have pointed a shotgun or a pistol, but no, it had to be an ASSAULT WEAPON, and now he's on Fark.


Senator Feinstein's proposal classifies many handgun and shotgun models as "assault weapons".
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-25 03:26:59 PM
muck4doo:

So government can have them. It's donkey and cart for you.

Well, if you are crazy enough to think you are going to overthrow the government or that anyone would want gun nuts to overthrow the government then you probably shouldn't be trusted with a donkey and cart either.
 
2013-01-25 03:27:14 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Not all gun related products are bad.

[www.desertknightnews.com image 400x374]


So you say.  I was with someone who was rubbing his piece down with that stuff and the damned thing went off in my face!
 
2013-01-25 03:27:39 PM

vpb: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

We already do regulate cars.  They have to have things like break lights for instance.  Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.


What specific automobile models are banned by name?
 
2013-01-25 03:30:24 PM

vpb: muck4doo:

So government can have them. It's donkey and cart for you.

Well, if you are crazy enough to think you are going to overthrow the government or that anyone would want gun nuts to overthrow the government then you probably shouldn't be trusted with a donkey and cart either.


At least I don't think the donkey needs "break lights".
 
2013-01-25 03:32:40 PM
I don't want to talk about the second amendment or gun control right now. I think I'm just going to go to the store. Maybe I'll get a bottle of pop and some junk food. Then I'm going to sit down and play some video games. That sounds like fun.

You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?
 
2013-01-25 03:33:44 PM

GreenAdder: I don't want to talk about the second amendment or gun control right now. I think I'm just going to go to the store. Maybe I'll get a bottle of pop and some junk food. Then I'm going to sit down and play some video games. That sounds like fun.

You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?


I could enjoy a bag of Ruffles Natural potato chips. I really should reduce my intake, however.
 
2013-01-25 03:34:08 PM
BRAKE lights, muck.

/politely offers a celery to Mr Toitle
 
2013-01-25 03:34:47 PM

muck4doo: A donkey and cart can do the same job as a truck.




Just need more donkeys and more carts. Anyway truck dont have to go over 20 miles an hour. Truth be told if you limited them to that speed they could pull doubles and triples and save the environment will all the fuel you'll save.

Mugato: Yes. Especially in emergencies. More so than we need assault rifles.

/not for gun control
//stupid argument



Exactly, it is a stupid argument. As is saying all we need is gun will smaller mags or "less firepower". What does that even mean? Smaller bullets with less powder behind them? We as a country need to take responsibility for the real issue and stop trying to blame inanimate objects. Gun violence over all is down and the only reason we are having these debates 5 times a day is because of mentally ill people getting their hands on weapons (not just guns). There are billions and billions of weapons of every shape and size, why not focus our efforts on the relatively few mentally ill people?
 
2013-01-25 03:35:06 PM

GreenAdder: I don't want to talk about the second amendment or gun control right now. I think I'm just going to go to the store. Maybe I'll get a bottle of pop and some junk food. Then I'm going to sit down and play some video games. That sounds like fun.

You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?


Some hay for the donkey. Other than that I think I'm set. Found THIS next to the donkey cart video. I'm happy, but these chicks would be hotter with some Mini-14s.
 
2013-01-25 03:35:09 PM

GreenAdder: I don't want to talk about the second amendment or gun control right now. I think I'm just going to go to the store. Maybe I'll get a bottle of pop and some junk food. Then I'm going to sit down and play some video games. That sounds like fun.

You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?


A couple of MexiCokes would do it for kittay, thanks :3
 
2013-01-25 03:35:43 PM
BronyMedic:


[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 250x163]

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-25 03:38:57 PM

vpb: We already do regulate cars. They have to have things like break lights for instance. Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.



You dont think we currently regulate guns? Do you think that all firearms have a safety because adding parts always makes a better product? Do you think they all weapons come with a trigger lock because the manufacture just had them laying around and though you'd like one?

When was the last time you bought a firearm?
 
2013-01-25 03:39:54 PM

Kittypie070: BRAKE lights, muck.

/politely offers a celery to Mr Toitle


His heat/uv light went out about an hour ago. :(

/Got a year and a half out of it. Hadn't planned on a trip to Petsmart today
 
2013-01-25 03:41:40 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: We already do regulate cars. They have to have things like break lights for instance. Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.


You dont think we currently regulate guns? Do you think that all firearms have a safety because adding parts always makes a better product? Do you think they all weapons come with a trigger lock because the manufacture just had them laying around and though you'd like one?

When was the last time you bought a firearm?


I hate floating firing pins. I like to see my firing pin right on the hammer where it belongs.
 
2013-01-25 03:44:07 PM

Blues_X: You can get an AK for just $150?


Yeah, but you have to mail them 7 box tops as well.
 
2013-01-25 03:44:55 PM

muck4doo: I hate floating firing pins. I like to see my firing pin right on the hammer where it belongs.




I don't know about you, but if something makes me drop my weapon I want an extra round fired off when it hits the ground.

Serves the SOB right for shooting me.
 
2013-01-25 03:46:55 PM
St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!
 
2013-01-25 03:53:20 PM

muck4doo: BronyMedic: The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

To be fair, it's a lot harder to get an aortic sheer at 20 miles an hour. Or turn a pedestrian into a buff of pink mist.

A donkey and cart can do the same job as a truck.



www.redletterchristians.org

I'll see your Donkey, and raise you an Elephant.
 
2013-01-25 03:53:40 PM
In before the Outraged RightTM assign all blame to the impudent brat whose glib remarks forced a concerned parent/True PatriotTM to take drastic action.
 
2013-01-25 03:55:06 PM

Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!


Bolt action rifle that kicks like a mule that holds 54 in the cartridge and 1 in the chamber?

students.cis.uab.edu
 
2013-01-25 03:58:12 PM

Nadie_AZ: Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!

Bolt action rifle that kicks like a mule that holds 54 in the cartridge and 1 in the chamber?


Mistyped?
 
2013-01-25 03:58:20 PM

Amos Quito: I'll see your Donkey, and raise you an Elephant.



img62.imageshack.us
Likes where your head is at.

Apos: In before the Outraged RightTM assign all blame to the impudent brat whose glib remarks forced a concerned parent/True PatriotTM to take drastic action.


Well you could have waited a few more hours then.
 
2013-01-25 03:59:00 PM

timujin: Nadie_AZ: Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!

Bolt action rifle that kicks like a mule that holds 54 in the cartridge and 1 in the chamber?

Mistyped?


Dammit. I meant 4 ...
 
2013-01-25 04:05:14 PM

muck4doo: Kittypie070: BRAKE lights, muck.

/politely offers a celery to Mr Toitle

His heat/uv light went out about an hour ago. :(

/Got a year and a half out of it. Hadn't planned on a trip to Petsmart today


Dude, buy some spares too. ;3
 
2013-01-25 04:05:56 PM

Nadie_AZ: timujin: Nadie_AZ: Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!

Bolt action rifle that kicks like a mule that holds 54 in the cartridge and 1 in the chamber?

Mistyped?

Dammit. I meant 4 ...


In that case, I would have gotten it wrong too, I thought it was five.
 
2013-01-25 04:09:57 PM

Amos Quito: muck4doo: BronyMedic: The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

To be fair, it's a lot harder to get an aortic sheer at 20 miles an hour. Or turn a pedestrian into a buff of pink mist.

A donkey and cart can do the same job as a truck.


[www.redletterchristians.org image 451x480]

I'll see your Donkey, and raise you an Elephant.


2.bp.blogspot.com

Who needs a bus?
 
2013-01-25 04:13:26 PM
fark. I work with this guy.
 
2013-01-25 04:13:57 PM

GreenAdder:

You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?


Get some sour cream and onion chips with some dip, man, some beef jerky, some peanut butter. Get some Häagen-Dazs ice cream bars, a whole lot, make sure chocolate, gotta have chocolate, man. Some popcorn, red popcorn, graham crackers, graham crackers with marshmallows, the little marshmallows and little chocolate bars and we can make s'mores, man. Also, celery, grape jelly, Cap'n Crunch with the little Crunch berries, pizzas. We need two big pizzas, man, everything on 'em, with water, whole lotta water, and Funyons.
 
2013-01-25 04:14:15 PM
Ok, now I am convinced that if Obama just proposed like 10 more bills for gun control, the gun nuts will become unhinged and prove Obama's point.
 
2013-01-25 04:14:30 PM
$150 for an AK? Hmmm... sounds too cheap.
 
2013-01-25 04:14:58 PM
Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

Then what's the farking point?  You may as well have pointed a hammer or an alligator at them.
 
2013-01-25 04:15:00 PM
Sure, this gets greenlit, yet there's no post about the fifteen different tyrants who tried to overthrow America today but were stopped thanks to a hero with a machine gun.
 
2013-01-25 04:15:14 PM

dv-ous: fark. I work with this guy.


I wouldn't send him any late TPS reports, bro.
 
2013-01-25 04:15:55 PM
Sounds like we'd ought to stop talking about banning them and farkING BAN THEM.
 
2013-01-25 04:16:19 PM

vpb: Blues_X: You can get an AK for just $150?

7.62x54R is a type of ammunition.

I think he paid $375 for the AK.clone


I went over that part of TFA several times. Bottom line; too loose, weak details.
 
2013-01-25 04:16:27 PM

dv-ous: fark. I work with this guy.


Not anymore.
 
2013-01-25 04:16:28 PM
I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.
 
2013-01-25 04:16:32 PM
I really hope some enterprising prisoners beat the sh*t out of this guy. If only because the gun is ALWAYS LOADED.

/Farking dipshiat.
 
2013-01-25 04:16:50 PM

muck4doo: BunkoSquad: This society just keeps getting more and more polite, doesn't it?

fark you


See!!!
 
2013-01-25 04:17:27 PM
"The daughter said she wasn't scared because she didn't think the gun was loaded."

So many obituaries contain a similar sentence.
 
2013-01-25 04:17:49 PM

Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.


Look here
VVVVVVVVVV

JesusJuice: Sounds like we'd ought to stop talking about banning them and farkING BAN THEM.

 
2013-01-25 04:18:25 PM
Uh, wow, that's the most stupid article I've seen in some time.

An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

There is no "AK-47 style gun" chambered in 7.62x54R.

The fact the gun is 7.62x54R, and cost $150, almost certainly means it was a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle that hold five rounds, not an AK-47.

Holy shiat, that is a golden article.
 
2013-01-25 04:18:36 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!


Fortunately cars were not invented solely for taking human life.
 
2013-01-25 04:18:41 PM

Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.


Indeed. Hobbyists above reduced violence.

alicia-logic.com

Ok, ok. Spray 30 bullets at 2 invaders.

//only way to be sure.
 
2013-01-25 04:19:08 PM
Sounds about right. My dad is one of the "gubmint gon taek mah guns!" people. It's not about protecting your home, a shotgun can do that, it's about making yourself feel strong, or feared. It's about having some power over another human being for these people.

I once watched him hold a gun to my dog's head because it growled at him. Seriously.

/pro-gun
//anti-crazy people with guns
 
2013-01-25 04:19:12 PM
Something isn't right. In the beginning they say he bought a rifle ( because the gub'mint, yeah, whatever, where'd that come from?) yet later they cite the sales receipts of two rifles that he sold, not bought. So.... che?


/it's not a toy you idiot
 
2013-01-25 04:19:16 PM

KiwDaWabbit: Sure, this gets greenlit, yet there's no post about the fifteen different tyrants who tried to overthrow America today but were stopped thanks to a hero with a machine gun.


This gun saved two people's lives.
 
2013-01-25 04:19:25 PM
Ironic that the actions of the people most scared they government is coming for their guns are giving more and more fodder to those that they claim are "comin' fer my guns".

It's a vicious cycle.
 
2013-01-25 04:19:26 PM

GreenAdder: You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?


Can you get me some Skittles?
 
2013-01-25 04:20:50 PM

theorellior: GreenAdder: You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?

Can you get me some Skittles?


I'll take an iced tea.
 
2013-01-25 04:21:01 PM

dv-ous: fark. I work with this guy.


Wouldn't it be a shame if he fell out of a window?
 
2013-01-25 04:21:11 PM
Now he's all alone, except for his precious, precious gun.

[shoots out light]
 
2013-01-25 04:21:20 PM

Coco LaFemme: This here is a fine example of someone who is too stupid to own a firearm.  Bought the gun because he thought the "gub'mint" was going to ban it, and pointed it in his daughter's face for bringing home two B's instead of straight A's.

Take THAT man's gun and beat him upside the head with it......then don't give it back.


Oh, he's not getting it back. If convicted he will never be able to own a gun again.
 
2013-01-25 04:21:55 PM
This is why background checks aren't as effective as they could be. People change and sometimes for the worse.
 
2013-01-25 04:22:00 PM

Pocket Ninja: Well, if the daughter (and the mom) had been carrying their own guns, this wouldn't have happened, now would it? He probably only felt empowered to do this because he knew they WEREN'T armed and were therefore easy victims. Remember: an armed society is a polite society. I'm glad we can have situations like this crop up every now and then to serve as just illustrations of that very important point.


Not only brilliant, but quick on the draw, as it were.
 
2013-01-25 04:22:03 PM

gopher321: I get the felling this 'Murikin fears a lot of things.


Terrorism isn't about what you can do to an enemy.

Terrorism is about what you can make an enemy willingly do to themselves.

This guy? Very, very terrorized. Probably by himself.
 
2013-01-25 04:22:06 PM
Gun nuts are nuts who have guns. Who new?
 
2013-01-25 04:22:21 PM

theorellior: The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

Fortunately cars were not invented solely for taking human life.


They sure do a good job of it though.
 
2013-01-25 04:22:42 PM
Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?
 
2013-01-25 04:22:57 PM

Apos: In before the Outraged RightTM assign all blame to the impudent brat whose glib remarks forced a concerned parent/True PatriotTM to take drastic action.


She was coming right at him!
 
2013-01-25 04:22:59 PM
i429.photobucket.com

/really? I'm the Weeners this?
 
2013-01-25 04:23:07 PM
It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.
 
2013-01-25 04:23:20 PM

ghare: Gun nuts are nuts who have guns. Who new?


You are an expert when it comes to nuts.
 
2013-01-25 04:23:25 PM

Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.



But the disinformation is working very well. Fark is wall-to-wall with people who think that scary-looking rifles are assault rifles, and that people are dropping dead left and right because of them.
 
2013-01-25 04:23:40 PM

bunner: dv-ous: fark. I work with this guy.

Wouldn't it be a shame if he fell out of a window?


Is this a movie reference I'm not getting?
 
2013-01-25 04:23:42 PM
kmsp.images.worldnow.com

Looks like a reasonable guy.
 
2013-01-25 04:23:43 PM

gameshowhost: Apos: In before the Outraged RightTM assign all blame to the impudent brat whose glib remarks forced a concerned parent/True PatriotTM to take drastic action.

She was coming right at him!


Let me rephrase that
 
2013-01-25 04:24:07 PM
Because People in power are Stupid:

She got two B's? She's just starting to fill out.

And anyway he didn't molest her or take kiddie porn pictures of her so there's no harm done.
 
2013-01-25 04:24:30 PM
See, this story needs two tags. Both "scary" and "dumbass."
 
2013-01-25 04:24:30 PM

bunner: dv-ous: fark. I work with this guy.

Wouldn't it be a shame if he fell out of a window?


Yeah, I would cry big tears. Of, like, sympathy.

*blows nose rudely*
 
2013-01-25 04:24:39 PM
I think we're missing something from this story.

St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her

St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375.
 
2013-01-25 04:24:48 PM

tricycleracer: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

Then what's the farking point?  You may as well have pointed a hammer or an alligator at them.


tvmedia.ign.com

"Is funny because they are all tools! Oh-HO!"

/mixing Family Guy in a Simpsons reference
//this is a dangerous experiment
///MOAR GUN THREADS PLZ
 
2013-01-25 04:25:57 PM

vpb: muck4doo:

So government can have them. It's donkey and cart for you.

Well, if you are crazy enough to think you are going to overthrow the government or that anyone would want gun nuts to overthrow the government then you probably shouldn't be trusted with a donkey and cart either.

.
A bunch of people in Egypt, Libya, Syria, and Algeria would like to have a word with you.

People like you remind me of the royal loyalists from the late 1700's, they were wetting their panties too.
 
2013-01-25 04:26:16 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.


No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.
 
2013-01-25 04:26:21 PM
25.media.tumblr.com

Or I point rifle at you.
 
2013-01-25 04:26:43 PM

david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?


Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".
 
2013-01-25 04:26:52 PM
I dated a girl in my youth who's father had a bullet inscribed with her name on it.

Needless to say she was pretty farked up. Guys, this is where crazy comes from.
 
2013-01-25 04:27:31 PM

Gilligann: I think we're missing something from this story.

St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her

St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375.


Indeed
 
2013-01-25 04:27:34 PM
Glad he's been arrested he's sounds like a dangerous tool.

Now why hasn't the wife been jailed for not protecting her daughter from cr*p like this? Not when the gun is pointed obviously but why the living fark didn't' she get her and her daughter to safety immediately after, OR call the cops and get this nut away from them?

Culpable, she is it.
 
2013-01-25 04:27:44 PM

david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?


You must be furious at your inability to own rocket launchers and ICBMs.

//Arbitrary lines are arbitrary - you'll get over it after crying yourself to sleep 2 dozen times.
 
2013-01-25 04:28:06 PM

muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.


Just say what you mean: "Waah! I have no sense of humor!"
 
2013-01-25 04:28:16 PM

Gilligann: I think we're missing something from this story.

St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her

St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375.


He sold the guns after the incident
 
2013-01-25 04:28:29 PM

Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".


How so?
 
2013-01-25 04:28:45 PM

coeyagi: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

You must be furious at your inability to own rocket launchers and ICBMs.

//Arbitrary lines are arbitrary - you'll get over it after crying yourself to sleep 2 dozen times.


You can legally buy rocket launchers. Yes, actual functioning ones, in the majority of states.
 
2013-01-25 04:28:47 PM
More importantly "Beeks Pizza goes up in flames in 3 alarm fire"
 
2013-01-25 04:29:02 PM

muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.


And we have a bite.

//Don't you f*cking look like a gold star earner in Romper Room?
 
2013-01-25 04:29:04 PM
*clicks onto Fark*

*Notices "gun and crazy parent"*

*Figures "yeah, not going near those commen......oh god, that's fox 9...please don;t be Minnesota, I can hear the damn jingles for that station in myhead...

*clicks*

fark.

DOUBLE fark, he's from my city.

Godamnitsomuch.
 
2013-01-25 04:29:12 PM

tricycleracer: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

Then what's the farking point?  You may as well have pointed a hammer or an alligator at them.


I can't help but wonder if the girl had an alligator of her own this whole thing might never have happened. I don't know, I'm just asking the question.
 
2013-01-25 04:29:31 PM

ArcadianRefugee: muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.

Just say what you mean: "Waah! I have no sense of humor!"


Gun grabber humor. Hardy-har-har.
 
2013-01-25 04:29:33 PM
Pretty typical. "Who's the man NOW?", as he points the gun at a woman and child. Because he wasn't threatening enough toward them before that.
 
2013-01-25 04:29:43 PM
He should have just beat the kid with a bag of nickels, like I do when the kids come home with B's.
 
2013-01-25 04:29:55 PM

vpb
(favorite: Blamed "right wing conspiracy " for Family Research Council shooting after shooter was identified as left wing gay activist)


>>>> However a license does not mean that you will get responsible ownership. See car ownership.


That's why we need to limit the firepower.

Just like we need to limit the free speech of tools like you that spew lies and conspiracy theories.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:12 PM

odinsposse: [i429.photobucket.com image 750x600]

/really? I'm the Weeners this?


That should be updated. All guns are AR-15s now, apparently.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:17 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Or I point rifle at you.


Thank gods, some one finally got to what's important in this thread. I salute this fine Farker.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:18 PM

Dimensio: vpb: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

We already do regulate cars.  They have to have things like break lights for instance.  Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.

What specific automobile models are banned by name?


I'm not terribly passionate on either side of this debate, but this got me wondering, and there actually are several.

Link
 
2013-01-25 04:30:22 PM

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: tricycleracer: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

Then what's the farking point?  You may as well have pointed a hammer or an alligator at them.


You would be correct if we can be certain both the mother and daughter knew the weapon was not loaded.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:25 PM

coeyagi: muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.

And we have a bite.

//Don't you f*cking look like a gold star earner in Romper Room?


I prefer those cups you can walk on. Have any?
 
2013-01-25 04:30:32 PM

The Slush: He sold the guns after the incident


Well that makes more sense.

Thanks for pointing it out.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:33 PM

topcon: coeyagi: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

You must be furious at your inability to own rocket launchers and ICBMs.

//Arbitrary lines are arbitrary - you'll get over it after crying yourself to sleep 2 dozen times.

You can legally buy rocket launchers. Yes, actual functioning ones, in the majority of states.


Any kind of rocket launcher? And what about ICBMs. What about ANY F*CKING KIND OF WEAPONRY available? If you are going to poutrage, go full poutrage.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:43 PM

Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".


.
By the NRA you mean We The People. btw - The NRA gained 250,000 new members in just the past two weeks. I'll be joining them this weekend.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:45 PM
Not really helping his cause is he?
 
2013-01-25 04:30:47 PM

Apos: Which means that if she had received a few C's or lower, he would have blown her away.

FOTY material, for sure.


She got Bs, so he gave her a 100 foot head start.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:54 PM

The Slush: Gilligann: I think we're missing something from this story.

St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her

St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375.

He sold the guns after the incident


Well... remorse is good, right? :-\
 
2013-01-25 04:30:55 PM
If you want people to buy something you make them believe they are losing something.

I love all the people who really think that the White house isn't aware or couldn't calculate exactly what is happening right now.

If the president says he is going to take your guns, you are going to buy more guns and you are going to get mad at people who don't want guns. You are going to go onto Youtube and tell people that you are going to start killing people because Obama is black.

I missed the part where this became a huge brain-buster.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:57 PM

ManateeGag: this is why we can't have nice things.


I came here to say this.
 
2013-01-25 04:30:59 PM

SilentStrider: ajgeek: Sybarite: Asian dad?

Kirill Bartashevitch

Hm, nope.

Asian REDNECK dad. It's the only explanation.

Name sounds Russian, so he's not a redneck, he's just red.


/aisle seat please.


so hes communist? therefore, communists are bad and dangerous so obviously Obama is bad
 
2013-01-25 04:31:57 PM

CrscntBufS: This is why background checks aren't as effective as they could be. People change and sometimes for the worse.


Right, but we should still have them for all firearms purchases. I'd wager until it became news, most Americans probably assumed all firearms required a background check.

It's a minor inconvenience that while not perfect, is something that should have been done a long time ago.
 
2013-01-25 04:33:02 PM

The Slush: Gilligann: I think we're missing something from this story.

St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her

St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375.

He sold the guns after the incident


It takes rare insight to realize that you're a dumbass. Good on him.
 
2013-01-25 04:33:08 PM
Did anybody else notice that the receipts for guns were both dated AFTER the alleged incident?
 
2013-01-25 04:33:20 PM

david_gaithersburg: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

.
By the NRA you mean We The People. btw - The NRA gained 250,000 new members in just the past two weeks. I'll be joining them this weekend.


Nice deflection. Why do you hate existing gun laws that make it harder for bad people to buy guns? I thought you were all about "WHAA WHAA Don't Punish Me for Bad People!" Dude, you're making it harder on yourself by supporting the NRA.
 
2013-01-25 04:33:28 PM
Hey, internet experts...

www.centerfiresystems.com


AK action, chambered for 7.62x54R.
You're welcome.
 
2013-01-25 04:33:50 PM

ArcadianRefugee: [25.media.tumblr.com image 407x405]

Or I point rifle at you.


That took entirely too long.
ts4.mm.bing.net
 
2013-01-25 04:35:11 PM
The only important part of this article is the casual reference to application of "terroristic" charges to a regular citizen where regular assault and domestic charges would have covered it. the slippery slope my ass, this is wet and wild versicle missile drop slide ride now . also, terroristic is not even a word in FF spell check. must not have fascist regime dictionary plug in yet...
 
2013-01-25 04:36:15 PM

muck4doo: ghare: Gun nuts are nuts who have guns. Who new?

You are an expert when it comes to nuts.


Estás loco, hermano?
 
2013-01-25 04:36:53 PM
If my son got a B instead of straight As I would simply take his iPhone away. He's not a precious snowflake.. He can have fun technology but he better work for it by doing chores and making academics his top priority. I also think he's a lot more scared about losing his iphone than he would be if someone pointed a gun at him.
 
2013-01-25 04:37:31 PM

muck4doo: coeyagi: muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.

And we have a bite.

//Don't you f*cking look like a gold star earner in Romper Room?

I prefer those cups you can walk on. Have any?


fark Romper Room. Ms Julie can see out of my TV, and that means she's a witch.
 
2013-01-25 04:37:46 PM

Pert: Did anybody else notice that the receipts for guns were both dated AFTER the alleged incident?


The receipts were from when he SOLD the guns AFTER the incident.
 
2013-01-25 04:37:55 PM
 
2013-01-25 04:38:00 PM
I believe this what us "gun nuts" warned about:

Step 1: Have a discussion about "reasonable" gun control measures.

Step 2: Billy Bob who doesn't have $1200 to spend on an AR15 and wasn't really planning on getting one, runs out after selling his second car and buys one.

Step 3: (around 2014) Billy Bob sells his AR15 for an eightball and $200 in cash.

Step 4: Latin Disciples uses the AR15 in question to kill 7 in a driveby shooting.

Even discussing an assault weapons ban was supremely stupid. What Obama should have done is firmly said there are no plans for a ban, waited a few months, and then decided what to do. About a gazillion people who were never in the market for a semiautomatic weapon now have one at home, thanks to the wonderful "national conversation" that we're having.
 
2013-01-25 04:38:07 PM

Pert: Did anybody else notice that the receipts for guns were both dated AFTER the alleged incident?


I thought that too, but it looks like he sold them after that. Which doesn't make any sense if you think he bought them because of Obama's proposition. It's just the usual derpers trying to bend this story to help their political agenda. As a matter of fact, the whole damn story doesn't make sense unless you put it in a derp agenda format.
 
2013-01-25 04:38:13 PM

GameSprocket: [kmsp.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]

Looks like a reasonable guy.


JTDC, why is it these people always, always, always look like they were fed a steady diet of lead as a child?
 
2013-01-25 04:38:50 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Not all gun related products are bad.

[www.desertknightnews.com image 400x374]


how many guns do you have to squeeze to get that much oil?
 
2013-01-25 04:39:00 PM

Pert: Did anybody else notice that the receipts for guns were both dated AFTER the alleged incident?


It also says he sold the guns not that he bought them so once the guy figured out the cops were looking into it he tried to get rid of them will probably face harsher charges for tampering with evidence then for being a stupid fark and pointing the gun at his wife and kid
 
2013-01-25 04:39:11 PM

muck4doo: Pert: Did anybody else notice that the receipts for guns were both dated AFTER the alleged incident?

I thought that too, but it looks like he sold them after that. Which doesn't make any sense if you think he bought them because of Obama's proposition. It's just the usual derpers trying to bend this story to help their political agenda. As a matter of fact, the whole damn story doesn't make sense unless you put it in a derp agenda format.


You should know all about derp, chico.
 
2013-01-25 04:39:32 PM

jchic: So. He grabbed his gun during an argument, and made sure it was not loaded (yes, I know they're all loaded, bear with me) and then pointed it at his wife and daughter? What exactly was the point he was trying to make? The whole reason a gun exists is to shoot something so if you make sure that that gun can't shoot, what, exactly, are you trying to convey by pointing an unloaded gun at someone? If you get one more B I'll load this gun and then shoot you?


The magic gun fairy will put ammo in your chamber whenever you're not looking. If you can't look inside the chamber to see it's empty, you better assume it's loaded.

Everyone else, however, being further away from the gun than you, can't reasonably see that the gun is unloaded. So they're going to assume it's loaded. If you pointed it at them, they will have a completely rational reason to believe that you are pointing a loaded weapon at them and intend to destroy them with it. Why not? You just broke Rule 3. Why wouldn't they think you're the kind of idiot that would break Rule 1 as well.

And for this reason, this ardent Second Amendment supporter says that this dude doesn't get to have guns any more. Why? Because if you point a gun at someone for a reason that doesn't meet your state's use of force laws, if you're not in immediate fear of death or bodily harm, you're breaking a felony kinda law.
 
2013-01-25 04:40:03 PM

muck4doo: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

How so?


There are plenty of examples, but the most egregious recent example is the Tiahrt Amendment
 
2013-01-25 04:40:58 PM

muck4doo: ArcadianRefugee: muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.

Just say what you mean: "Waah! I have no sense of humor!"

Gun grabber humor. Hardy-har-har.


Dude, nobody here wants your pseudo-penis.
 
2013-01-25 04:41:02 PM

xynix: If my son got a B instead of straight As I would simply take his iPhone away. He's not a precious snowflake.. He can have fun technology but he better work for it by doing chores and making academics his top priority. I also think he's a lot more scared about losing his iphone than he would be if someone pointed a gun at him.


You're that bad of a shot?

Relax, line up the sights, relax, hold your base, relax, pull (dont snap) the trigger

/now your child should show the proper amount of fear!
//i kid i kid
 
2013-01-25 04:41:04 PM
See, I'm willing to believe that every gun-owning Farker is a paragon of responsibility and gun safety, but I simply can't be convinced that all of the people who legally own guns are likewise responsible and safe.

People have a tendency to do very irrational things when they are angry and/or frightened.

I don't care how responsible you are, and how many times you've given lectures on gun safety. Some people will just have a flip switched and suddenly they are doing something stupid like brandishing their gun. In fact, I feel that owning a gun makes it more likely that any anger or fright scenario will escalate to brandishing, and possibly using, that gun.
 
2013-01-25 04:41:27 PM

ghare: muck4doo: ghare: Gun nuts are nuts who have guns. Who new?

You are an expert when it comes to nuts.

Estás loco, hermano?


And here goes ghare again, obsessed with the fact i am mexican. Dude. Get over it. We are all farkers here. Ever hear the song about how Jesus loves the little children? It's like that. No one obsesses that you are whatever race you are. We just know that you love nuts.
 
2013-01-25 04:43:00 PM

ghare: muck4doo: Pert: Did anybody else notice that the receipts for guns were both dated AFTER the alleged incident?

I thought that too, but it looks like he sold them after that. Which doesn't make any sense if you think he bought them because of Obama's proposition. It's just the usual derpers trying to bend this story to help their political agenda. As a matter of fact, the whole damn story doesn't make sense unless you put it in a derp agenda format.

You should know all about derp, chico.


You really need help.
 
2013-01-25 04:43:37 PM
It's ok guys, he looks like he drinks for the government.
 
2013-01-25 04:43:39 PM

Amos Quito: Lionel Mandrake: Watch the libbies try to punish this patriot for using second amendment solutions to raise his kids.




What a "Second Amendment Solution" might look like


That was clever. :-D
 
2013-01-25 04:43:58 PM
Another fine example of the average American gun owner!

Responsible, upstanding, a paragon of civility and self-control, a pillar of the community and a fine example to the rest of us.

Clearly, however, this single mistake isn't enough to condemn him. I mean, if his daughter had been packing her own heat, he would not likely have drawn his own weapon. An armed family is a polite family.

Go on. Tell me how this is yet another outlier and this schmuch shouldn't be seen as the 'average' gun owner.
 
2013-01-25 04:44:14 PM

Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!


At least I'm not the only one to notice that stupidity.

Watch out, a bolt action 5 shot rifle is now an assault rifle

/amazing
 
2013-01-25 04:44:22 PM

Cupajo: muck4doo: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

How so?

There are plenty of examples, but the most egregious recent example is the Tiahrt Amendment


Link? Nevermind, I'll google it.

iaazathot: muck4doo: ArcadianRefugee: muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.

Just say what you mean: "Waah! I have no sense of humor!"

Gun grabber humor. Hardy-har-har.

Dude, nobody here wants your pseudo-penis.


More gun grabber humor. Hardy-har-har
 
2013-01-25 04:44:49 PM

Infernalist: Another fine example of the average American gun owner!

Responsible, upstanding, a paragon of civility and self-control, a pillar of the community and a fine example to the rest of us.

Clearly, however, this single mistake isn't enough to condemn him. I mean, if his daughter had been packing her own heat, he would not likely have drawn his own weapon. An armed family is a polite family.

Go on. Tell me how this is yet another outlier and this schmuch shouldn't be seen as the 'average' gun owner.


SCHMUCK. ffs, I need another drink.
 
2013-01-25 04:44:59 PM

xynix: If my son got a B instead of straight As I would simply take his iPhone away. He's not a precious snowflake.. He can have fun technology but he better work for it by doing chores and making academics his top priority. I also think he's a lot more scared about losing his iphone than he would be if someone pointed a gun at him.


If my daughter came home with a B instead of straight A's I'd round a chamber in the high capacity clip and cock the barrell of my 30/30 assault weapon.

/I don't mean to brag, but yeah, I'm pretty hardcore.
 
2013-01-25 04:45:12 PM
Stupid people buy assault rifles. Got it. Wait, didn't we know that already?
 
2013-01-25 04:45:27 PM
What a $150 "AK style" weapon looks like:

api.ning.com
 
2013-01-25 04:45:58 PM
Lionel Mandrake: Watch the libbies try to punish this patriot for using second amendment solutions to raise his kids.


What a "Second Amendment Solution" might look like


images2.opticsplanet.com

If he's using that on his daughter, it's not really an improvement.
 
2013-01-25 04:47:18 PM

Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!


THANK YOU

I absolutely adore how the headline screams Dad points AK-47 at daughter and yet the story states beyond any doubt at all that the weapon was not an AK-47.

I'd insert the journalist's guide to firearms here, but it has ceased to be funny. This isn't stupidity, it is a clear effort to create the image of a crisis that doesn't exist.

Having said that, dad's a dumbass who should both go to prison and lose the right to own a gun.
 
2013-01-25 04:48:36 PM
See, this is an example of someone you SHOULD take guns away from!!!!
 
2013-01-25 04:48:45 PM
The one thing I do agree with is closing the loopholes regarding background checks. I used to go to gun shows and I never understood how you can buy whatever you want from some dude without any sort of background check. They plan on closing that.
 
2013-01-25 04:49:29 PM

JustGetItRight: Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!

THANK YOU

I absolutely adore how the headline screams Dad points AK-47 at daughter and yet the story states beyond any doubt at all that the weapon was not an AK-47.

I'd insert the journalist's guide to firearms here, but it has ceased to be funny. This isn't stupidity, it is a clear effort to create the image of a crisis that doesn't exist.

Having said that, dad's a dumbass who should both go to prison and lose the right to own a gun.


That definately has me breathing easier!

Oh good! The deadly weapon he pointed at his daugher was just a regular rifle, not an assautl rifle.

Geez, why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over this?
 
2013-01-25 04:49:45 PM
B's? A's?

AK-47's go with double D's.
www.imfdb.org
 
2013-01-25 04:49:55 PM

iaazathot: GameSprocket: [kmsp.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]

Looks like a reasonable guy.

JTDC, why is it these people always, always, always look like they were fed a steady diet of lead as a child?


Dad screams at child that, "By God, if lead was good enough for me to to eat as a child, it's darn sure gonna be good enough for a spoiled brat like you! Eat lead, sucker!"

Then points gun at daughter.
 
2013-01-25 04:50:19 PM
FTFA: St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her. The message was seen by the classmate's mother, who reported it to a school social worker.

A social worker?!?! WTF! Are there no cops in this town?
 
2013-01-25 04:51:00 PM

muck4doo: Cupajo: muck4doo: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

How so?

There are plenty of examples, but the most egregious recent example is the Tiahrt Amendment

Link? Nevermind, I'll google it.



What is the Tiahrt Amendment? Yeah, nice try there.
 
2013-01-25 04:51:31 PM
Treat a gun like a toy and you should have the damn thing taken away. I don't care if it wasn't loaded, how freaking irresponsible and stupid is this guy??
 
2013-01-25 04:51:32 PM
Bachmann's district?
 
2013-01-25 04:51:38 PM

david_gaithersburg: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

.
By the NRA you mean We The People. btw - The NRA gained 250,000 new members in just the past two weeks. I'll be joining them this weekend.


Sucker. You ever notice how the NRA takes on more and more ridiculous stances as time goes on? That's because the NRA is a government net and they're slowly shaking out the few reasonable folks until they have a list of the crazy people with guns. You want the government to come take your guns on day 0? By all means, register with the NRA.
 
2013-01-25 04:52:18 PM
Dear Asshats,
As a fan of the 2nd amendment, I enjoy a good debate on responsible gun ownership. I strongly believe that gun owners are by and large responsible people who should be trusted. I would greatly appreciate it if you would STOP PROVING ME WRONG!

Thanks.

/Still belive most gun owners are responsible
//These asshats make it really hard to defend that belief
///La la la, small percentage, la la la, I can't hear you
 
2013-01-25 04:52:18 PM
Alright all you lefty gun haters. Ive decided rather than jump through all the govnmt hoops to get real Colt M-4 I'm going to buy an airsoft replica that is made of metal, I'm just a collector after all so it doesn't have to actually fire bullets. While I'm there I'm going to measure the full-sized M-60 airsoft replica to see if my M-14 barrel and receiver will fit into it. A functional semi-auto M-60, that would be cool.
 
2013-01-25 04:53:03 PM

JustGetItRight
2013-01-25 04:47:18 PM

Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!

THANK YOU

Ummm guys..... are you familiar w/ PSL's? Not technically AK's, but ak style, sure.
 
2013-01-25 04:53:07 PM

JustGetItRight: I absolutely adore how the headline screams Dad points AK-47 at daughter and yet the story states beyond any doubt at all that the weapon was not an AK-47.


One of the rifles was likely a Mosin-Nagant* but the other was very much an AK-47 type of rifle.

Also, if you look at the comments after TFA you'll see that the guy sold the guns TO a gun shop.

/* it's possible he sold something like an SVT or Dragunov. I don't see a gun shop paying $150 for a Mosin-Nagant unless it was a wicked rare model
 
2013-01-25 04:53:10 PM

El_Swino: Hey, internet experts...

[www.centerfiresystems.com image 800x159]


AK action, chambered for 7.62x54R.
You're welcome.


Yeah, while AK-replicate weapons chambered in 7.62x54R certainly exist it seems unlikely they'd be going for only $150... particularly post Newtown. So, it seems more likely that it's a Mosin-Nagant.
 
2013-01-25 04:53:11 PM

GameSprocket: [kmsp.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]

Looks like a reasonable guy.


Is that Dr. Wiley?

Megaman does not approve.
 
2013-01-25 04:53:13 PM
A hundred year old bolt action "AK-47"...

The media isn't even trying to hide its trolling anymore.
 
2013-01-25 04:53:19 PM

muck4doo: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: We already do regulate cars. They have to have things like break lights for instance. Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.


You dont think we currently regulate guns? Do you think that all firearms have a safety because adding parts always makes a better product? Do you think they all weapons come with a trigger lock because the manufacture just had them laying around and though you'd like one?

When was the last time you bought a firearm?

I hate floating firing pins. I like to see my firing pin right on the hammer where it belongs.


I like not cleaning my bolt and seeing how long it takes the pin to freeze in the forward position and cook off my clip.

/Responsible gun owner.
 
2013-01-25 04:54:07 PM

MBooda: AK-47's go with double D's

flapjacks.
 
2013-01-25 04:54:10 PM

Arthur Jumbles: FTFA: St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her. The message was seen by the classmate's mother, who reported it to a school social worker.

A social worker?!?! WTF! Are there no cops in this town?


Not that you would want to call first.

So I'm told.
 
2013-01-25 04:54:24 PM

way south: A hundred year old bolt action "AK-47"...

The media isn't even trying to hide its trolling anymore.


Probably why more and more people are trusting them even less these days.

I thought there was a "Code of Honor" in journalism... or was that just an Old-Wives Tale?
 
2013-01-25 04:55:16 PM

Citrate1007: Bachmann's district?


Nope. McCollum, probably.
 
2013-01-25 04:55:19 PM

DeadPuppySociety: muck4doo: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: We already do regulate cars. They have to have things like break lights for instance. Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.


You dont think we currently regulate guns? Do you think that all firearms have a safety because adding parts always makes a better product? Do you think they all weapons come with a trigger lock because the manufacture just had them laying around and though you'd like one?

When was the last time you bought a firearm?

I hate floating firing pins. I like to see my firing pin right on the hammer where it belongs.

I like not cleaning my bolt and seeing how long it takes the pin to freeze in the forward position and cook off my clip.

/Responsible gun owner.


LOL!
 
2013-01-25 04:55:28 PM

El_Swino: Hey, internet experts...

[www.centerfiresystems.com image 800x159]


AK action, chambered for 7.62x54R.
You're welcome.


Not for $150, Mr. Expert
 
2013-01-25 04:55:56 PM
If he'd used an AR earlier she'd already have straight A's and be enrolling in nun school.
 
2013-01-25 04:56:22 PM
An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

 
2013-01-25 04:56:30 PM
It's getting to the point where I'm going to go out and buy a pitbull, an AK and some bottle rockets. People keep telling me these things are dangerous. I should be dead by the end of next week.

Infernalist: Another fine example of the average American gun owner!

Responsible, upstanding, a paragon of civility and self-control, a pillar of the community and a fine example to the rest of us.

Clearly, however, this single mistake isn't enough to condemn him. I mean, if his daughter had been packing her own heat, he would not likely have drawn his own weapon. An armed family is a polite family.

Go on. Tell me how this is yet another outlier and this schmuch shouldn't be seen as the 'average' gun owner.


I think he is a responsible gun owner. He bought them and took them home, found out that he could not handle the responsibility and sold them back to a gun shop. Zero body count and no need to run to the ER. If the media wasn't looking for stories with the headline of "Durp durp AK bad Durp" we would have never heard of this guy or his family.

/wasn't even an AK
//they should hire Ice Cube, he knows what an AK looks like.
 
2013-01-25 04:56:47 PM

BronyMedic: Amos Quito: You think he's been porking his daughter?

Okay. That made me laugh. Bravo, Sir. Bravo.

In all seriousness, coming from someone who sees a lot of abused kids come through, if that dad is willing to threaten his daughter at gunpoint for something, he's willing and probably in the current act of harming her in some other fashion, physically or emotionally. It's not really a stretch to assume or intervene with an investigation.

/wonder how many "falls" she's had in the last 5 years.


I think you're exactly right.

The fact that he also pushed his wife down to the ground and pointed the gun at her too tells me they've both been subjected to some form of abuse over the years.
 
2013-01-25 04:57:46 PM

OnlyM3: JustGetItRight
2013-01-25 04:47:18 PM

Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!

THANK YOU
Ummm guys..... are you familiar w/ PSL's? Not technically AK's, but ak style, sure.


If you can tell us where to buy them for $150 like in TFA, I'll buy 10.

/EIP
 
2013-01-25 04:57:49 PM
i'm confused (and i'm not reading through all of the comments to see if this was mentioned before)....

if he's worried about the government taking AK's away... why did he sell two of them?
 
2013-01-25 04:57:58 PM

Maximer: way south: A hundred year old bolt action "AK-47"...

The media isn't even trying to hide its trolling anymore.

Probably why more and more people are trusting them even less these days.

I thought there was a "Code of Honor" in journalism... or was that just an Old-Wives Tale?


They're playing to their young, stupid, and knee-jerk audience.
 
2013-01-25 04:58:29 PM

Maximer: El_Swino: Hey, internet experts...

[www.centerfiresystems.com image 800x159]


AK action, chambered for 7.62x54R.
You're welcome.

Yeah, while AK-replicate weapons chambered in 7.62x54R certainly exist it seems unlikely they'd be going for only $150... particularly post Newtown. So, it seems more likely that it's a Mosin-Nagant.


Well, you're the internet expert. Did you actually read that he'd bought the rifle for $150, or does the article say he sold it for $150? Maybe you should go back and check that before you decide what's likely or unlikely.
 
2013-01-25 04:59:25 PM

hitlersbrain: Not really helping his cause is he?


^^^
 
2013-01-25 04:59:28 PM

Pocket Ninja: Well, if the daughter (and the mom) had been carrying their own guns, this wouldn't have happened, now would it? He probably only felt empowered to do this because he knew they WEREN'T armed and were therefore easy victims. Remember: an armed society is a polite society. I'm glad we can have situations like this crop up every now and then to serve as just illustrations of that very important point.


You would have had three dead bodies.

NTTAWWT
 
2013-01-25 04:59:29 PM
I hope this idiot gets convicted of a felony so that he can't ever own firearms again.
 
2013-01-25 04:59:52 PM

KidneyStone: Watch out, a bolt action 5 shot rifle is now an assault rifle


If it is a Springfield, Mauser, Enfield, or any other WWII rifle with a bayonet lug, you can safely bet the farm it will be next on the list.
 
2013-01-25 04:59:57 PM

coeyagi: Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.

Indeed. Hobbyists above reduced violence.

[alicia-logic.com image 490x290]

Ok, ok. Spray 30 bullets at 2 invaders.

//only way to be sure.


Too bad a semiautomatic rifle doesn't "spray", since it isn't a selective fire weapon. Nice try though.
 
2013-01-25 05:00:50 PM

Befuddled: I hope this idiot gets convicted of a felony so that he can't ever own firearms again.


Good thing he sold them.
 
2013-01-25 05:01:26 PM
sharetv.org
 
2013-01-25 05:01:29 PM

lostcat: That definately has me breathing easier!

Oh good! The deadly weapon he pointed at his daugher was just a regular rifle, not an assautl rifle.

Geez, why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over this?


Sensationalism should be combated when encountered or we end up with unhinged individuals wiped up into a frenzy. Case in point, the topic of the thread. Convincing the public that it's surrounded by army machine guns is sensationalism though admittedly less so than, say, convincing half the country SARS was going to kill us all.
 
2013-01-25 05:03:46 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Exactly, it is a stupid argument. As is saying all we need is gun will smaller mags or "less firepower". What does that even mean? Smaller bullets with less powder behind them? We as a country need to take responsibility for the real issue and stop trying to blame inanimate objects. Gun violence over all is down and the only reason we are having these debates 5 times a day is because of mentally ill people getting their hands on weapons (not just guns). There are billions and billions of weapons of every shape and size, why not focus our efforts on the relatively few mentally ill people?


In gun control threads, you are only allowed to talk about wanting to take away guns or wanting to kill Obama with a gun because he is black.
 
2013-01-25 05:03:48 PM

KidneyStone: El_Swino: Hey, internet experts...

[www.centerfiresystems.com image 800x159]


AK action, chambered for 7.62x54R.
You're welcome.

Not for $150, Mr. Expert


I'm not claiming to be an expert, sir. I'm just claiming that I can read.
 
2013-01-25 05:04:28 PM
Even if you wanted a rifle, why would you pick the Kalashikov 47? They're fun as hell, but only with the fire select switch enabled. As semi-automatics they're just a really shiatty version of a standard carbine, and there are a hundred better models available in the same calibers that are more accurate and less prone to malfunction.

AK-47s are literally military surplus gear from second-world nations, have some pride and sense and buy American.

DeadPuppySociety: I like not cleaning my bolt and seeing how long it takes the pin to freeze in the forward position and cook off my clip.

/Responsible gun owner.


If you don't take care of your equipment, it will malfunction. More at 11.

//People that don't occasionally check their brake fluid are a danger to everyone around them, too, doesn't make 1800s style lever brakes the superior solution.
 
2013-01-25 05:04:44 PM

hdhale: coeyagi: Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.

Indeed. Hobbyists above reduced violence.

[alicia-logic.com image 490x290]

Ok, ok. Spray 30 bullets at 2 invaders.

//only way to be sure.

Too bad a semiautomatic rifle doesn't "spray", since it isn't a selective fire weapon. Nice try though.



It's like the dishonesty is contagious.
 
2013-01-25 05:05:16 PM

jchic: impaler: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1

So.  He grabbed his gun during an argument, and made sure it was not loaded (yes, I know they're all loaded, bear with me) and then pointed it at his wife and daughter?  What exactly was the point he was trying to make?  The whole reason a gun exists is to shoot something so if you make sure that that gun can't shoot, what, exactly, are you trying to convey by pointing an unloaded gun at someone?  If you get one more B I'll load this gun and then shoot you?


The point he was trying to make is that he's one of the majority of male legal gun owners who end up shooting up their own families. Also, he has a mental illness and needs to have his toys taken away.
 
2013-01-25 05:05:17 PM
I would be fine with the government banning him.
 
2013-01-25 05:05:50 PM

muck4doo: Befuddled: I hope this idiot gets convicted of a felony so that he can't ever own firearms again.

Good thing he sold them.



Yes, otherwise they would have been confiscated by now.


/Down payment on a lawyer?
 
2013-01-25 05:06:19 PM
Google image search on: "7.62x54R"

www.slickguns.com

Looks "AK-47-style to me. Plus it's semi-automatic.


Here's the other gun he bought:

Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39

www.slickguns.com

Again...looks like an AK-47.

Article doesn't say which gun he was brandishing. Based on the fact that the daughter said it was an AK-47, I'm going with the Zastava.

Why are the gun people trying so hard to make this into an issue of the "media" tricking the public?
 
2013-01-25 05:06:25 PM

ghare: Gun nuts are nuts who have guns. Who new?


Not me, I've been here since 2010.
 
2013-01-25 05:07:24 PM

impaler: You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1


If his dad had taught him gun safety rules, then he would know your #1 and ten or twelve other important rules. That would include "never point a gun at anything you are not willing to shoot" and my favorite: if you do point a gun at someone, that person is entitled to assume you mean to kill and act in self defense. Meaning that even IF your gun is truly unloaded, someone still might die.
 
2013-01-25 05:07:31 PM

KidneyStone: What a $150 "AK style" weapon looks like:

[api.ning.com image 600x354]


Up until this current "scare" and knee jerk reactionary bullshiat you could buy an AK47 for under $200. I picked one up on gunbroker.com for $300 a few years ago and it came with 3 additional clips. I've since traded it for a double-barrel I haven't even used. I should have held on to it because they're not going for $600+
 
2013-01-25 05:08:06 PM

topcon: Uh, wow, that's the most stupid article I've seen in some time.

An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

There is no "AK-47 style gun" chambered in 7.62x54R.

The fact the gun is 7.62x54R, and cost $150, almost certainly means it was a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle that hold five rounds, not an AK-47.

Holy shiat, that is a golden article.


Probably a Dragunov. It looks like an "AK style" rifle, especially to a journalist.
 
2013-01-25 05:09:00 PM

generallyso: lostcat: That definately has me breathing easier!

Oh good! The deadly weapon he pointed at his daugher was just a regular rifle, not an assautl rifle.

Geez, why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over this?

Sensationalism should be combated when encountered or we end up with unhinged individuals wiped up into a frenzy. Case in point, the topic of the thread. Convincing the public that it's surrounded by army machine guns is sensationalism though admittedly less so than, say, convincing half the country SARS was going to kill us all.


Read the article again. Don't just go by what the gun people on Fark tell you is true.
 
2013-01-25 05:09:44 PM
"The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375."

So, something like this, right?

cdn2.armslist.com
 
2013-01-25 05:10:15 PM
 
2013-01-25 05:10:33 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375."

So, something like this, right?

[cdn2.armslist.com image 640x311]


Please, you are throwing facts into the mix and that just isn't how we do things here.
 
2013-01-25 05:11:15 PM
Another day, another Nutty Raving Asshole doing something stupid with a gun.
 
2013-01-25 05:12:40 PM

way south: A hundred year old bolt action "AK-47"...

The media isn't even trying to hide its trolling anymore.


Every reporter should be required to take a multiday training course on guns.
 
2013-01-25 05:13:10 PM

lostcat: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375."

So, something like this, right?

[cdn2.armslist.com image 640x311]

Please, you are throwing facts into the mix and that just isn't how we do things here.


The fact he sold it that day? or the fact it is scary looking?
 
2013-01-25 05:13:17 PM

DeadPuppySociety: topcon: Uh, wow, that's the most stupid article I've seen in some time.

An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

There is no "AK-47 style gun" chambered in 7.62x54R.

The fact the gun is 7.62x54R, and cost $150, almost certainly means it was a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle that hold five rounds, not an AK-47.

Holy shiat, that is a golden article.

Probably a Dragunov. It looks like an "AK style" rifle, especially to a journalist.


Blah, I fail at reading comprehension. Dragunovs don't go for $150.
 
2013-01-25 05:13:49 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!


You do realize how easily that can be turned around, right? All we need to do is post a "SPEED LIMIT 120" on your street.
 
2013-01-25 05:14:19 PM
Let me see if I figured this out yet. He was afraid the gub'mint was going to take his weapons so he sold them before the gub'mint could take them away?

/something is bugging me to no end
 
2013-01-25 05:16:52 PM

vpb: We already do regulate cars. They have to have things like break

[sic] lights for instance.

No, cars do NOT have to have brake lights or other gear. You're thinking of "use on public roads" rules. NASCAR, Formula 1, etc have their own rules. Antique cars have basically no rules.

Are you promoting 7 round magazine limit? How 'bout a 7 gallon gas tank limit? Do you need eight gallons of gas? Prove it, Citizen!
 
2013-01-25 05:16:53 PM

Rich Cream: Let me see if I figured this out yet. He was afraid the gub'mint was going to take his weapons so he sold them before the gub'mint could take them away?

/something is bugging me to no end


Like i said upthread, this only makes sense when you look at it from a derp angle. Either way, you should be very afraid. Of something.
 
2013-01-25 05:16:56 PM
Hey, it's just a matter of motivation...

pwoessner.wikispaces.com
 
2013-01-25 05:18:13 PM
Wish I could get an SVD for $150 I'd sell it and make a few grand.
 
2013-01-25 05:19:00 PM

Kibbler: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

You do realize how easily that can be turned around, right? All we need to do is post a "SPEED LIMIT 120" on your street.


It would be almost funny to watch you try to do it. Be happy with your donkey and cart, peasant.
 
2013-01-25 05:21:22 PM

Mimic_Octopus: The only important part of this article is the casual reference to application of "terroristic" charges to a regular citizen where regular assault and domestic charges would have covered it. the slippery slope my ass, this is wet and wild versicle missile drop slide ride now . also, terroristic is not even a word in FF spell check. must not have fascist regime dictionary plug in yet...


Pretty much my line of thought. Around here we usually hear this kind of crime called assault with a deadly weapon.
 
2013-01-25 05:22:10 PM
I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.
 
2013-01-25 05:22:41 PM

JesusJuice: Sounds like we'd ought to stop talking about banning them and farkING BAN THEM.


Okay, start by banning cops from having guns.

Good luck enforcing the next step bigot.
 
2013-01-25 05:22:44 PM

PDid: Private arsenal doesn't protect gun dealer


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_F._Kennedy

Armed secret service doesn't protect president.
 
2013-01-25 05:23:05 PM
He brought her into the world......

...dumbass. Hope he is neutered....
 
2013-01-25 05:23:10 PM

ProfessorOhki: david_gaithersburg: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

.
By the NRA you mean We The People. btw - The NRA gained 250,000 new members in just the past two weeks. I'll be joining them this weekend.

Sucker. You ever notice how the NRA takes on more and more ridiculous stances as time goes on? That's because the NRA is a government net and they're slowly shaking out the few reasonable folks until they have a list of the crazy people with guns. You want the government to come take your guns on day 0? By all means, register with the NRA.


That is nice. May I borrow it to frighten the townies with?
 
2013-01-25 05:23:13 PM

lostcat: JustGetItRight: Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!

THANK YOU

I absolutely adore how the headline screams Dad points AK-47 at daughter and yet the story states beyond any doubt at all that the weapon was not an AK-47.

I'd insert the journalist's guide to firearms here, but it has ceased to be funny. This isn't stupidity, it is a clear effort to create the image of a crisis that doesn't exist.

Having said that, dad's a dumbass who should both go to prison and lose the right to own a gun.

That definately has me breathing easier!

Oh good! The deadly weapon he pointed at his daugher was just a regular rifle, not an assautl rifle.

Geez, why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over this?



The fact that he pointed ANY gun at his child is an inexcusable act sufficient to warrant immediate castration. IDGAF what they do to him.

As to why we're bent out of shape? The headline is a lie written for no purpose other than to sensationalize the story.

It has been posted in many other threads but I'll point out again that rifles of all types were used to murder 323 people last year - less than 1/4 of the number murdered were the weapons were hands and feet. There is no assault weapons scourge, yet without it there is no momentum for new gun laws. Gotta keep saying AR-15 and AK-47 to make folks think they're everywhere and that the average citizen is in imminent peril.

I've been shooting guns since I was 5 or so. I'm now 45 and I've never been an NRA member because I didn't think their stance was realistic or even good. I thought 'slippery slope' and gun grabbers theory was unrealistic. I don't own any tactical style rifle or a handgun with a magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds nor do I plan on buying one but I'm joining the NRA. New York and the senator from California have changed my mind and shown me I was wrong. They're trying to launch a movement that will end with them coming for my shotgun and the folks writing headlines like this one are complicit. That's why we're bent out of shape.
 
2013-01-25 05:23:56 PM
FTFA:

According to the charges, 52-year-old Kirill Bartashevitch recently purchased the AK-47 due to fears that such weapons would be banned under President Obama's push for gun control legislation.


...

St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.


The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed it sold Bartashevitch sold[sic] a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375.


_________________

The problem here is that the copy editor didn't catch the error. The artcle has made mention of two guns purchased, then again two reciepts for the purchases. None of the lead-up mentions him selling a gun. There is an error with the use of the word "sold." This seems to be what so many people are latching onto as proof that the media is embelishing the story.

The media is just not copy-editing its work well enough.

The daughter is an American, public-high-school-attending teenager. If anyone in that demographic doesn't know what an AK-47 looks like, I'll eat my game controller.
 
2013-01-25 05:24:21 PM

Kittypie070: ProfessorOhki: david_gaithersburg: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

.
By the NRA you mean We The People. btw - The NRA gained 250,000 new members in just the past two weeks. I'll be joining them this weekend.

Sucker. You ever notice how the NRA takes on more and more ridiculous stances as time goes on? That's because the NRA is a government net and they're slowly shaking out the few reasonable folks until they have a list of the crazy people with guns. You want the government to come take your guns on day 0? By all means, register with the NRA.

That is nice. May I borrow it to frighten the townies with?


I would be honored. Just don't attribute it to me; those folks have guns.
 
2013-01-25 05:24:33 PM
lotta flailing gun nuts in here today.

probably mad that no one died in this latest example of gun nuttery.
 
2013-01-25 05:24:44 PM

Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!


http://www.classicfirearms.com/long-guns/russian-vepr2-54r-rifle
 
2013-01-25 05:24:52 PM

HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.


About what? 100 year old AK-47's?
 
2013-01-25 05:25:00 PM
Oh, I was going to my mom's for dinner the other day. My brother always carries a .38 on his hip. My wife informed me that he told her that "I've got a bullet with your name on it." They are always kidding around back and forth. I caught my brother on the way into the house and said, "I know you were just kidding about the bullet thing, but that is bullshiat and NOT acceptable and it better not happen again."

Just because you have the right to own a firearm, doesn't mean you're smart enough to own one.
 
2013-01-25 05:25:15 PM
Nothing but the best for our nation's responsible gun owners!
 
2013-01-25 05:26:32 PM

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?


No.
 
2013-01-25 05:26:37 PM

Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.


http://www.classicfirearms.com/long-guns/russian-vepr2-54r-rifle
 
2013-01-25 05:27:18 PM

lostcat: Why are the gun people trying so hard to make this into an issue of the "media" tricking the public?


It's all they have left, and people buy the "liberal" media lie hook line and sinker, when the media really could care less about which side they are on besides the one that gets them the most ad revenue possible.

Right now, that is stoking fears among the gun nuts and grabbers.
 
2013-01-25 05:27:44 PM

Infernalist: lotta flailing gun nuts in here today.

probably mad that no one died in this latest example of gun nuttery.


www.rescholarequipment.com
 
2013-01-25 05:28:23 PM
Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."
 
2013-01-25 05:28:34 PM

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?

No.


Bolt action AK-47s?
 
2013-01-25 05:29:11 PM

topcon: Uh, wow, that's the most stupid article I've seen in some time.

An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

There is no "AK-47 style gun" chambered in 7.62x54R.

The fact the gun is 7.62x54R, and cost $150, almost certainly means it was a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle that hold five rounds, not an AK-47.

Holy shiat, that is a golden article.


not for $150 but... rusty, cracked stock, barrel shot out... maybe, or just not a good one like:

http://www.classicfirearms.com/long-guns/russian-vepr2-54r-rifle
 
2013-01-25 05:30:43 PM

Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."


Seriously.

I spend a lot of time in Japan and a little less time in Cambodia.

A lot of people in Cambodia are armed. Very few people in Japan are armed.

Guess where I feel safer? And where I am statistically safer?
 
2013-01-25 05:30:52 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: The point he was trying to make is that he's one of the majority of male legal gun owners who end up shooting up their own families.


The majority of male legal gun owners end up shooting their families. Thanks.

Around 43% of the men in America own a gun. That's about 100,000,000 people. Assuming they at least kill one, I wonder what we're going to do with those 50,000,000 bodies.
 
2013-01-25 05:31:20 PM
Before anyone defends this man, actually read this from TFA:

According to the charges, 52-year-old Kirill Bartashevitch recently purchased the AK-47 due to fears that such weapons would be banned under President Obama's push for gun control legislation.

St. Paul police learned of the Jan. 13 incident after Bartashevitch's daughter sent a text message to a Central High School classmate, saying her father pointed an AK-47 at her. The message was seen by the classmate's mother, who reported it to a school social worker.

In an interview with the social worker, the victim said they were arguing about her grades when she swore at her father and said she "hated" him. At that point, Bartashevitch grabbed his newly-purchased gun and pointed it at his daughter.


If you dare try to argue this man as a responsible gun owner or that responsible gun owners may have to fear similar treatment, I'll say this is why you all are losing the argument. Being such disingenuous, uncritical asshats works under "the Big Tent" but it just turns anyone undecided off from considering a thing you say.
 
2013-01-25 05:31:29 PM

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?

No.

Bolt action AK-47s?


No, I don't waste time with parsing models. Fool's errand.
 
2013-01-25 05:31:30 PM

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?

No.


Maybe it was a Glock? Anyone consider that?
 
2013-01-25 05:32:28 PM

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?

No.

Bolt action AK-47s?

No, I don't waste time with parsing models. Fool's errand.


It was scary looking? Someone saw it and got scared?
 
2013-01-25 05:34:28 PM

Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."


LOL, when was the old west "polite"? I realize it wasn't like it is in the movies but they weren't "polite" either. What a moronic thing to say.

The mafia was a sort of their own society and they were all armed. Were they polite?
 
2013-01-25 05:34:31 PM

Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."


Yeah, I've never gotten that whole "armed society is a polite society" thing. What, are they saying people with guns are likely to shoot people who are rude?

And this is supposed to make me feel better about other gun owners?
 
2013-01-25 05:34:38 PM

impaler: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1


Plus B. Never point a weapon at anyone unless you are going to fire.
 
2013-01-25 05:34:52 PM

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?

No.

Bolt action AK-47s?

No, I don't waste time with parsing models. Fool's errand.

It was scary looking? Someone saw it and got scared?


Just saying I told you so. I'll tell you again tomorrow.
 
2013-01-25 05:35:30 PM
Oh, and does he get to keep the guns?
 
2013-01-25 05:36:00 PM

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?

No.

Bolt action AK-47s?

No, I don't waste time with parsing models. Fool's errand.

It was scary looking? Someone saw it and got scared?

Just saying I told you so. I'll tell you again tomorrow.


So.

I can do it too. :p
 
2013-01-25 05:36:40 PM

Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."


Somalia has 9.1 guns per 100 people. The US has 88.8. Where did you get the idea that Somalia is heavily armed?
 
2013-01-25 05:36:55 PM

Lorelle: Another day, another Nutty Raving Asshole doing something stupid with a gun.


I would remind you that this so-called "Nutty Raving Asshole" was a responsible, law-abiding gun owner. Right up to the time he, y'know, threatened his family with the gun.

In fact, wasn't there another guy who was a responsible, law-abiding gun owner in the news lately? Until he, y'know, shot a bunch of schoolkids.

My brother-in-law isn't allowed to buy or own guns because once, a really long time ago, he threatened his wife (my wife's sister) with one of their guns. So now she has to buy all the guns for the household, and he's only allowed to use them whenever he feels like it to do anything he wants to.
 
2013-01-25 05:37:05 PM

zabadu: Oh, and does he get to keep the guns?


Depends on if he gets a felony or not ;)
 
2013-01-25 05:37:16 PM

zabadu: Oh, and does he get to keep the guns?


He sold them because he was afraid of obama, or some dumb shiat made up in subby and the authors mind.
 
2013-01-25 05:37:19 PM

JustGetItRight: Princess Ryans Knickers: The point he was trying to make is that he's one of the majority of male legal gun owners who end up shooting up their own families.

The majority of male legal gun owners end up shooting their families. Thanks.

Around 43% of the men in America own a gun. That's about 100,000,000 people. Assuming they at least kill one, I wonder what we're going to do with those 50,000,000 bodies.


100,000,000 x 1 = 50,000,000?

/Number'd be more like 70m anyway.
 
2013-01-25 05:37:23 PM
Every teenager hates her dad at some point. It's part of growing up. However, an unlucky few are completely justified in that feeling.
 
2013-01-25 05:38:21 PM

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?

No.

Bolt action AK-47s?

No, I don't waste time with parsing models. Fool's errand.

It was scary looking? Someone saw it and got scared?

Just saying I told you so. I'll tell you again tomorrow.

So.

I can do it too. :p


Go for it.

You guys win, this is all your show.
 
2013-01-25 05:39:42 PM

GameSprocket: [kmsp.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]

Looks like a reasonable guy.


Let's hold him down, shave him and cut his hair and see how he likes it! We'll let the daughter stand by with an "unloaded gun" pointed at him.

This is the kind of guy I picture whenever I see a post that calls someone a LIBRUL!!
 
2013-01-25 05:40:07 PM
I'm a firm supporter of the 2nd, I own multiple weapons that would be banned under the proposals, and I think this jackass should not be permitted to own weapons of any kind.

It is unfortunate that there are a large number of loud farktards who flock towards weapons, but I assure you that they are a minority among the larger group of responsible sensible people.
 
2013-01-25 05:40:59 PM

gopher321: I get the felling this 'Murikin fears a lot of things.


He's soon to fear a lot more very soon, like
i.ytimg.com

/now pick up the soap!
 
2013-01-25 05:41:01 PM
dear NRA,

this is why you can't have nice things.

Love,
Sane America
 
2013-01-25 05:41:39 PM

ProfessorOhki: Kittypie070: ProfessorOhki: david_gaithersburg: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

.
By the NRA you mean We The People. btw - The NRA gained 250,000 new members in just the past two weeks. I'll be joining them this weekend.

Sucker. You ever notice how the NRA takes on more and more ridiculous stances as time goes on? That's because the NRA is a government net and they're slowly shaking out the few reasonable folks until they have a list of the crazy people with guns. You want the government to come take your guns on day 0? By all means, register with the NRA.

That is nice. May I borrow it to frighten the townies with?


I would be honored. Just don't attribute it to me; those folks have guns.


Mwelp, when they got a pissed off 90 year old civilian guy signing up with 'em, then it gets hilarious.
 
2013-01-25 05:41:41 PM
Because People in power are Stupid: She got two B's? She's just starting to fill out.

LOL, you evil bastard.
 
2013-01-25 05:42:12 PM

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?

No.

Bolt action AK-47s?

No, I don't waste time with parsing models. Fool's errand.

It was scary looking? Someone saw it and got scared?

Just saying I told you so. I'll tell you again tomorrow.

So.

I can do it too. :p

Go for it.

You guys win, this is all your show.


So
 
2013-01-25 05:42:42 PM

vpb: Blues_X: You can get an AK for just $150?

7.62x54R is a type of ammunition.

I think he paid $375 for the AK.


No, if you RTFA, he sold one for 150.00, and then sold AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39
for 375.00

In other words, this fine law-abiding Murikan tried to dump the evidence. Nope, no gun gun control needed.
 
2013-01-25 05:42:43 PM
I'm a firm supporter of the 2nd, I own multiple weapons that would be banned under the proposals, and I think this jackass should not be permitted to own weapons of any kind.

It is unfortunate that there are a large number of loud farktards who flock towards weapons, but I assure you that they are a minority among the larger group of responsible sensible people.



If we just gave the responsible ones cards to identify them as responsible, then the irresponsible ones would have to give up their cards when they killed a school full of children.
 
2013-01-25 05:43:46 PM

muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?

No.

Bolt action AK-47s?

No, I don't waste time with parsing models. Fool's errand.

It was scary looking? Someone saw it and got scared?

Just saying I told you so. I'll tell you again tomorrow.

So.

I can do it too. :p

Go for it.

You guys win, this is all your show.

So


Don't get all bitter now, you're living in paradise.
 
2013-01-25 05:45:53 PM
"Lol, Americans!"

The US is to guns as Russia is to traffic. I go to fark for the gun violence and to youtube for the dashcams.

/Drunk
Still a bit uncomfortably true no?
Nah, I'll just grab another beer. What are we talking about again?
Beyoncé lip-synced the national anthem? Inaguralopalypse I tell you!
 
2013-01-25 05:46:02 PM

farkinfilipino: dear NRA,

this is why you can't have nice things.

Love,
Sane America


Dear retards of America,

This is an example of bullshiat that you are all yanking yourselves to. 100 year old bolt action AK-47's that scared someone, by looking real scary.

Love,
Smart Americans.
 
2013-01-25 05:46:05 PM

OhioKnight: I'm a firm supporter of the 2nd, I own multiple weapons that would be banned under the proposals, and I think this jackass should not be permitted to own weapons of any kind.

It is unfortunate that there are a large number of loud farktards who flock towards weapons, but I assure you that they are a minority among the larger group of responsible sensible people.


If we just gave the responsible ones cards to identify them as responsible, then the irresponsible ones would have to give up their cards when they killed a school full of children.


Wrong. We'll just have to pry those cards from their cold dead hands.
 
2013-01-25 05:47:16 PM

HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: muck4doo: HotWingConspiracy: I get to say "told you so" every day for the rest of eternity.

About what? 100 year old AK-47's?

No.

Bolt action AK-47s?

No, I don't waste time with parsing models. Fool's errand.

It was scary looking? Someone saw it and got scared?

Just saying I told you so. I'll tell you again tomorrow.

So.

I can do it too. :p

Go for it.

You guys win, this is all your show.

So

Don't get all bitter now, you're living in paradise.


Today is special. I told you so twice. You have nothing on me tomorrow.
 
2013-01-25 05:50:24 PM

ZeroPly: Somalia has 9.1 guns per 100 people. The US has 88.8. Where did you get the idea that Somalia is heavily armed?


People generally use the Somalia zinger when a right winger says there's too much government regulation in the US.
 
2013-01-25 05:50:55 PM

Mugato: "terroristic"? Didn't even know that was a word.

Was that really terrorism though? Oh right. Everything is terrorism now.


The phrase "terroristic threats" was in the legal lexicon LONG before 9/11. I recall hearing that word growing up and I graduated HS in 1999.
 
BHK
2013-01-25 05:51:27 PM
The cost of being free and having the means of self protection is that there are going to be stupid people who do stupid things. It happens with cars, it happens with technology, etc. Of course, in the mind of the average government-worshipping progressive statist, the state can and should fix every problem and provide for every person.
 
2013-01-25 05:54:11 PM
imageshack.us
 
2013-01-25 05:54:15 PM

GreenAdder: I don't want to talk about the second amendment or gun control right now. I think I'm just going to go to the store. Maybe I'll get a bottle of pop and some junk food. Then I'm going to sit down and play some video games. That sounds like fun.

You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?


Don't get the Skittles - those things will kill you.
 
BHK
2013-01-25 05:54:36 PM
The gun banners sure don't seem to complain when their heroes in government-issued costumes point guns at people for doing things that are deemed "bad behavior" even though no one was going to be hurt or lose their property. Smoke a joint or shoot up heroin or run an unlicensed lemonade stand, and it's just fine if someone with a badge points a gun at you. And, yet, it's awful when a private citizen does it to his daughter. I'd like to see you hypocrites explain the difference without relying on the "law is the law" tautology..
 
2013-01-25 05:55:36 PM

mjohnson71: way south: A hundred year old bolt action "AK-47"...

The media isn't even trying to hide its trolling anymore.

Every reporter should be required to take a multiday training course on guns.


I don't mean to be pedantic about this, but is it too much to ask that a reporter at least consult Wikipedia?
I mean it should be obvious by now that there are more than three kinds of guns in this world and you've got senators trying to make it into kind of a big deal.

We live in an era where it takes thirty seconds to check something out.
If a reporter makes mistakes now its either cause they're careless or willfully doing it.
Neither of which are a good quality in that line of work.
 
2013-01-25 05:57:51 PM

BHK: The gun banners sure don't seem to complain when their heroes in government-issued costumes point guns at people for doing things that are deemed "bad behavior" even though no one was going to be hurt or lose their property. Smoke a joint or shoot up heroin or run an unlicensed lemonade stand, and it's just fine if someone with a badge points a gun at you. And, yet, it's awful when a private citizen does it to his daughter. I'd like to see you hypocrites explain the difference without relying on the "law is the law" tautology..


Because using fear and intimidation that has a lethal edge to it on a child that you should be protecting and not abusing is wrong? Also, you are committing false equivalency - an error on one side (ie your drug bit) does not provide a license for the other to break the social covenant that says we protect children (or try) in this society.
 
2013-01-25 05:58:07 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!


A speed limit? What kinda crazy soshulist idea is that?
 
2013-01-25 05:58:13 PM

BHK: The gun banners sure don't seem to complain when their heroes in government-issued costumes point guns at people for doing things that are deemed "bad behavior" even though no one was going to be hurt or lose their property. Smoke a joint or shoot up heroin or run an unlicensed lemonade stand, and it's just fine if someone with a badge points a gun at you. And, yet, it's awful when a private citizen does it to his daughter. I'd like to see you hypocrites explain the difference without relying on the "law is the law" tautology..


Big brother is a benign being looking out for them all.

/I'm having fun with this no matter how tarded
 
2013-01-25 05:58:43 PM
I know I'm coming in late here and I haven't read the entire thread, but reading the article where it's commenting on what the police found when they searched, it says they found ammunition and receipts. It appeared to me as if he had sold the two weapons back to Bill's and the other place for $X.
 
2013-01-25 05:59:56 PM
I'm just glad this guy has some Passionate Defenders in this thread who are brave enough to stand up for an American's right to point a gun at his daughter.
 
2013-01-25 06:00:04 PM

ZeroPly: Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."

Somalia has 9.1 guns per 100 people. The US has 88.8. Where did you get the idea that Somalia is heavily armed?


Couldn't think of a nation more armed than we are. Somalia's just a place you can reference that sort of way and not have your standard gun-rights-extremist question it. I bet on people using that "police society is an armed one" tended to be not concerned with things like facts and figures.

Fightin' fire with fire. I suppose. Or derp with derp.
 
2013-01-25 06:00:32 PM

ProfessorOhki: JustGetItRight: Princess Ryans Knickers: The point he was trying to make is that he's one of the majority of male legal gun owners who end up shooting up their own families.

The majority of male legal gun owners end up shooting their families. Thanks.

Around 43% of the men in America own a gun. That's about 100,000,000 people. Assuming they at least kill one, I wonder what we're going to do with those 50,000,000 bodies.

100,000,000 x 1 = 50,000,000?

/Number'd be more like 70m anyway.


100,000,000 owners. Poster said majority would end up shooting their families. A majority of 100,000,000 means 50,000,001 shooters.

50,000,001 X 1 = 50,000,001. Forgive me for rounding down.
 
2013-01-25 06:05:30 PM
Another responsible gun owner
 
2013-01-25 06:06:56 PM

hdhale: coeyagi: Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.

Indeed. Hobbyists above reduced violence.

[alicia-logic.com image 490x290]

Ok, ok. Spray 30 bullets at 2 invaders.

//only way to be sure.

Too bad a semiautomatic rifle doesn't "spray", since it isn't a selective fire weapon. Nice try though.


Poor choice of words always opens up the stupid semantics of the gun nuts. Success!

Proceed to spray Derp, governor.
 
2013-01-25 06:07:00 PM
He obviously misunderstood. The President is looking to ban weapons like that from being owned by nutjobs like himself.
 
2013-01-25 06:07:35 PM

SilentStrider: ajgeek: Sybarite: Asian dad?

Kirill Bartashevitch

Hm, nope.

Asian REDNECK dad. It's the only explanation.

Name sounds Russian, so he's not a redneck, he's just red.


/aisle seat please.


OMG SEKRIT COMMIE MAKIN' GUN NUTS LOOK BAD!
 
2013-01-25 06:10:11 PM

JustGetItRight: ProfessorOhki: JustGetItRight: Princess Ryans Knickers: The point he was trying to make is that he's one of the majority of male legal gun owners who end up shooting up their own families.

The majority of male legal gun owners end up shooting their families. Thanks.

Around 43% of the men in America own a gun. That's about 100,000,000 people. Assuming they at least kill one, I wonder what we're going to do with those 50,000,000 bodies.

100,000,000 x 1 = 50,000,000?

/Number'd be more like 70m anyway.

100,000,000 owners. Poster said majority would end up shooting their families. A majority of 100,000,000 means 50,000,001 shooters.

50,000,001 X 1 = 50,000,001. Forgive me for rounding down.


You are too generous.
He said shooting up their families, and yet you only attribute one death. So you underestimated by a factor of 3.

(I am assuming he meant nuclear family instead of extended family)
 
2013-01-25 06:12:07 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: impaler: You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1


4) Do you still want to point the gun at someone just to scare them? Don't cause it could be loaded


However a license does not mean that you will get responsible ownership. See car ownership.


[img685.imageshack.us image 475x307]


We do take away the right to drive a car of those who are irresponsible. And a lot of times, we take away the car, too.
 
2013-01-25 06:12:20 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: I'm just glad this guy has some Passionate Defenders in this thread who are brave enough to stand up for an American's right to point a gun at his daughter.


I'm glad this thread has some passionate defenders of banning weapons that obviously were never used in this case.
 
2013-01-25 06:12:29 PM

coeyagi: hdhale: coeyagi: Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.

Indeed. Hobbyists above reduced violence.

[alicia-logic.com image 490x290]

Ok, ok. Spray 30 bullets at 2 invaders.

//only way to be sure.

Too bad a semiautomatic rifle doesn't "spray", since it isn't a selective fire weapon. Nice try though.

Poor choice of words communication skills always opens up the stupid semantics of the gun nuts demonstrates to people how stupid a person is.. Success!

Proceed to spray Derp, governor.


ftfy.
at least you didn't whine this time about "context"
 
2013-01-25 06:12:42 PM
Take away the guns!!!! 4 out of 4 guns will kill multiple people every year.
 
2013-01-25 06:13:10 PM

IlGreven: The Stealth Hippopotamus: impaler: You know, if we needed to at least pass a licensing exam to get weapon, like we do a car, these guy would know that:
1) A gun is ALWAYS loaded.
2) See # 1
3) Did you see #1 yet? If not, see #1


4) Do you still want to point the gun at someone just to scare them? Don't cause it could be loaded


However a license does not mean that you will get responsible ownership. See car ownership.


[img685.imageshack.us image 475x307]

We do take away the right to drive a car of those who are irresponsible. And a lot of times, we take away the car, too.


Best not to let people have dangerous cars at all.
 
2013-01-25 06:14:14 PM
Woah! He got an AK that fires 7.62X54R for only $150? That's gotta be a mistake. Those go for at least $800 right now. It was likely a Romanian PSL rifle.

Also, moron. Take it away.
 
2013-01-25 06:16:54 PM

Dimensio: vpb: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

We already do regulate cars.  They have to have things like break lights for instance.  Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.

What specific automobile models are banned by name?


And it's goo--wait a minute! Someone moved the goalposts! No good! No good!
 
2013-01-25 06:16:58 PM

JustGetItRight: ProfessorOhki: JustGetItRight: Princess Ryans Knickers: The point he was trying to make is that he's one of the majority of male legal gun owners who end up shooting up their own families.

The majority of male legal gun owners end up shooting their families. Thanks.

Around 43% of the men in America own a gun. That's about 100,000,000 people. Assuming they at least kill one, I wonder what we're going to do with those 50,000,000 bodies.

100,000,000 x 1 = 50,000,000?

/Number'd be more like 70m anyway.

100,000,000 owners. Poster said majority would end up shooting their families. A majority of 100,000,000 means 50,000,001 shooters.

50,000,001 X 1 = 50,000,001. Forgive me for rounding down.


Nah, my mistake. I totally missed the "majority" part and forgot to half it.
 
2013-01-25 06:17:02 PM

muck4doo: farkinfilipino: dear NRA,

this is why you can't have nice things.

Love,
Sane America

Dear retards of America,

This is an example of bullshiat that you are all yanking yourselves to. 100 year old bolt action AK-47's that scared someone, by looking real scary.

Love,
Smart Americans.


I don't care what the fark the gun was. Someone points a gun at me, I get scared. And don't play semantics with "durr hurr he gets scared of nerf guns." I mean a fire-farking-arm.

I was raised with "Don't point a gun at something you don't want to kill/destroy." It's what responsible owners do. It's what responsible owners teach their farking kids. And isn't "responsibility" the word of the day?

Go ahead and shoot *ahem* the messenger all you want, but it still boils down to "Some dipshiat pointed a gun at his daughter for getting Bs." And yet some people would rather white knight this clown via the "They messed up the gun type! Therefore the argument is invalid!"

Douchey fanboys.

/at least rabid trekkies don't shoot each other
//not sure about bat'lething each other to death
 
2013-01-25 06:18:26 PM
I see that BHK would be plenty happy for the chance to gunpoint one of his own kids.

If he had any, which I hope not.
 
2013-01-25 06:20:03 PM
Ridiculing, criticizing, or otherwise casting this behavior in a negative light is a form of oppression of some gun owners.

WHAT PART OF "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

/did he mistake the daughter for a wild boar?
 
2013-01-25 06:22:25 PM
I skipped about five pages of back-and-forth to say this:

Whether you are pro-gun or anti-gun, the purpose of pointing a non-loaded weapon at somebody is still to threaten their lives. Maybe not at that moment, but at a later time. It's saying "This gun could be loaded if I wanted it to be."

It's like some sick trust game, in which the family is supposed to trust the father that the weapon being held is safe, and that he wouldn't really hurt them, because if you, as a child, say anything, you're wrong. And if you say you'll tell anybody, you're in deep shiat.

/my personal experience
//at least this kid's mom stepped between them
///what he did after that was the real big farking clue that this man shouldn't have a weapon at all.
 
2013-01-25 06:26:02 PM
www.politifake.org
 
2013-01-25 06:26:29 PM

OnlyM3: Just like we need to limit the free speech of tools like you that spew lies and conspiracy theories.


This is a hilarious post as I have you tagged as:

OnlyM3
(favorite: conspiracy nutbag)

/can't even remember why
 
2013-01-25 06:26:47 PM

Coco LaFemme: This here is a fine example of someone who is too stupid to own a firearm.  Bought the gun because he thought the "gub'mint" was going to ban it, and pointed it in his daughter's face for bringing home two B's instead of straight A's.

Take THAT man's gun and beat him upside the head with it......then don't give it back.


Hey now! He's just fine unless he's drunk.
 
2013-01-25 06:28:30 PM

meat0918: CrscntBufS: This is why background checks aren't as effective as they could be. People change and sometimes for the worse.

Right, but we should still have them for all firearms purchases. I'd wager until it became news, most Americans probably assumed all firearms required a background check.

It's a minor inconvenience that while not perfect, is something that should have been done a long time ago.


I hear this a lot.
1. Define "background check". Are we talking the same one used by FFL dealers? Or are we talking some other type of background check of varying legitimacy.
2. What's the incentive for private sellers to do the background check?
3. How will you ensure compliance by private sellers?


If you answer to 2 or 3 is "make them felons if they don't do it", then yeaaaah. Not gonna happen.
 
2013-01-25 06:29:15 PM
Since this is the latest in the dozen gun law threads for today, I'll post this here. Of all the proposed laws in the new package, I haven't heard one argument against the closing of the loophole that lets you buy any gun at a gun show without any papers or background checks.

/except "there takin' r guns!" of course
 
2013-01-25 06:29:55 PM

The Green Intern: I don't care what the fark the gun was


We know. It's safe to assume it was an AK. Best not nobody have them ever in the future.
 
2013-01-25 06:32:19 PM

Mugato: Since this is the latest in the dozen gun law threads for today, I'll post this here. Of all the proposed laws in the new package, I haven't heard one argument against the closing of the loophole that lets you buy any gun at a gun show without any papers or background checks.

/except "there takin' r guns!" of course


Who told you that?
 
2013-01-25 06:32:26 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: I'm just glad this guy has some Passionate Defenders in this thread who are brave enough to stand up for an American's right to point a gun at his daughter.


Nobody's defending what he did. It seems they're more concerned about the way the media is portraying the crime. Sensationalism is irresponsible and leads to hysteria.
 
2013-01-25 06:32:55 PM
i258.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-25 06:33:56 PM
Can ANYONE going on and on about the "error" in gun identification check the article for the TWO receipts for weapons and come back and flatly state in ALL CAPS that NEITHER receipt refers to a weapon that might sometimes be referred to by gun enthusiasts as an AK-47?
 
2013-01-25 06:36:42 PM

KidneyStone: [www.politifake.org image 640x939]


Haw haw, I sure am smarter than them thar jurnalists. Them "edjoocated" types with all them fancy queer words and their schoolin' and all them books.. shoot, I heard most of 'em even have all the teeth they was born with. Can you imagine?
 
2013-01-25 06:37:33 PM
Scene of the crime:
kaw.stb.s-msn.com
 
2013-01-25 06:37:42 PM
Thread TL;DR... but...

"An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150."

Umm... no...
 
2013-01-25 06:39:25 PM

muck4doo: /except "there takin' r guns!" of course

Who told you that?


I know at least 3 people who basically say that when anything about gun control is mentioned.
 
2013-01-25 06:41:28 PM

muck4doo: The Green Intern: I don't care what the fark the gun was

We know. It's safe to assume it was an AK. Best not nobody have them ever in the future.


Amazing... my point went sailing straight over your head, and yet you still helped me support it.

I'll try explaining it point by point for the thinking impaired:

He pointed a gun at her. The make and model of gun is in question. A certain subset of people would rather debate what kind of gun it is instead of discussing the situation that the gun revolved around.

When I say "I don't care what kind of gun it was." I mean that I do not care if he was pointing an AK, a Glock, an M-16, GAU-8A, or a phased plasma gun in the forty watt range at me. The type of gun is secondary to "This man pointed a gun at his child to intimidate her." I like guns. I have guns. Not to the degree that many of you have... but I'm actually rather thankful for that.

Are you people this pedantic about what kind of car that student driver tried to run over her instructor with?
 
2013-01-25 06:47:07 PM

KidneyStone
If you can tell us where to buy them for $150 like in TFA, I'll buy 10.
That's the price he sold the gun to the gunshop. If you say you can find a gunshop that pays retail prices you'll have to provide proof. They -shops- pay far under market price.
 
2013-01-25 06:53:03 PM
'merica!
 
2013-01-25 06:54:37 PM

Coco LaFemme: This here is a fine example of someone who is too stupid to own a firearm.  Bought the gun because he thought the "gub'mint" was going to ban it, and pointed it in his daughter's face for bringing home two B's instead of straight A's.

Take THAT man's gun and beat him upside the head with it......then don't give it back.


The point would be, I'M in control, I get to set the conditions for your life. You are subordinate to me and must OBEY. Gov'mint gonna take MY freedoms away by takin' my guns...BACK ON THE FLOOR biatchES, ain't done with you yet...

And so on...
 
2013-01-25 06:58:26 PM

muck4doo: BunkoSquad: This society just keeps getting more and more polite, doesn't it?

fark you


Legitimate observation. You guys trot out the tagline...own it. Or weasel away...
 
2013-01-25 07:02:29 PM
Who the hell is this guy?  FPSRussia's idiot uncle?
 
2013-01-25 07:02:48 PM
I'm not suprised.

I've been worried that the mania caused by Feinstein an Co.'s pointless, asinine, and over-reaching efforts (combined with paid provacatuer idiots like Beck and Rush) would cause a lot of dumb-asses who would otherwise not bother to run out and go get armed with guns they don;t know the first thing about.

Anywho. Hope this guy sees the inside of a jailcell for a few years. Anyone willing to point a frkking gun at his own family because he got pissed off needs to be taken out of circulation.

This is NOT a responsible gun owner, as is inherently obvious, and anyone aking THAT stupid argument loses an internet. This would be no different than if he had done it with his grandpappy's revolver.
 
2013-01-25 07:03:36 PM

Jackson Herring: BronyMedic:


[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 250x163]


Heh. Love those guys...
 
2013-01-25 07:05:19 PM

The Green Intern: or a phased plasma gun in the forty watt range at me.



Just what you see, pal.

/Might close early today.
 
2013-01-25 07:07:45 PM
Is this the thread where we try and maintain the hilarious simile between a ranged weapon, designed to kill someone dead, and a transportation device?
 
2013-01-25 07:07:52 PM

The_Sponge: The Green Intern: or a phased plasma gun in the forty watt range at me.


Just what you see, pal.

/Might close early today.


Poor Mr. Futterman. First the Gremlins got to him, and then Arnie. Or was it the other way around?
 
2013-01-25 07:09:50 PM

GreenAdder: I don't want to talk about the second amendment or gun control right now. I think I'm just going to go to the store. Maybe I'll get a bottle of pop and some junk food. Then I'm going to sit down and play some video games. That sounds like fun.

You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?


Pick me up some Skittles and Iced Tea please.

/probably not the first with this joke
 
2013-01-25 07:12:51 PM

Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.


Which is really the point, not putting a gun to your daughter's head for school marks you deem unacceptable.
 
2013-01-25 07:13:43 PM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: GreenAdder: I don't want to talk about the second amendment or gun control right now. I think I'm just going to go to the store. Maybe I'll get a bottle of pop and some junk food. Then I'm going to sit down and play some video games. That sounds like fun.

You guys don't have to hang out in this thread either if you don't want. Anyone want anything at the store?

Pick me up some Skittles and Iced Tea please.

/probably not the first with this joke


-1 for explaining your own joke.
 
2013-01-25 07:17:04 PM

Mike_1962: Which is really the point, not putting a gun to your daughter's head for school marks you deem unacceptable.


If it didn't involve "ak47s", it wouldn't have made the news, much less fark
 
2013-01-25 07:18:30 PM
The media will search out every story involving a gun they can find however minor and blow it up into as big a national headline as possible. It's an attempt to portray all gun owners in a negative light thereby marginalizing responsible gun owners and create public support for more restricitve gun laws.

Unless of course it's one of those 2.4 million times a year where someone actually defends themselves with a gun. Those are either completely ignored or don't get beyond local news reporting.

Yes, this guy is an idiot.

Yes, he should be severely punished up to and including the confiscation of all his guns and the loss of his right to ever own guns again.

No, he does not represent all gun owners.

No matter how badly the media wants to portray idiots like him as just that. The more negative gun related stories they can sensationalize every day the more you will hear stupid shiat like "he makes the few dozen responsible gun owners look bad".

/ I own zero guns.
// I am not a member of the NRA or any other "gun rights" organization.
/// I am against any attempt to limit or infringe on all of our constitutional rights not just those guaranteed by the second amendment.
 
2013-01-25 07:19:14 PM

Blues_X: You can get an AK for just $150?


The .22lr version, and it was probably a kids AK-47 which is a lot cheaper then the larger ones. Kids AK can go up to 200, regular .22lr one 350-450. The non .22 version can go up to $2500 bux.
 
2013-01-25 07:20:48 PM

GreenAdder: The_Sponge: The Green Intern: or a phased plasma gun in the forty watt range at me.


Just what you see, pal.

/Might close early today.

Poor Mr. Futterman. First the Gremlins got to him, and then Arnie. Or was it the other way around?



That's actually a very good question.....I know they both came out in '84.  I'm off to IMDB....be right back.

....and I'm back.

Gremlins:  8 June 1984

Terminator:  26 October 1984

So there we have it.

Also:

1) IMDB lists him as being in Pulp Fiction as "Monster Joe"  (scrapyard owner), but his scene was deleted.

2) His character in the terminator is listed as "Pawn Shop Clerk".  IIRC, that's wrong....he worked at a gun shop.  Hell, he might have been the owner, seeing as how he could make the call to close early.

/Addicted to IMDB.
//Make a mistake by not going to film school.
 
2013-01-25 07:22:28 PM

pedrop357: Mike_1962: Which is really the point, not putting a gun to your daughter's head for school marks you deem unacceptable.

If it didn't involve "ak47s", it wouldn't have made the news, much less fark


I think it would have.

And you're stating that neither of these:

" One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

"The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375."

is sometimes referred as an AK-47 by gun enthusiasts?
 
2013-01-25 07:23:53 PM

illannoyin: / I own zero guns.
// I am not a member of the NRA or any other "gun rights" organization.
/// I am against any attempt to limit or infringe on all of our constitutional rights not just those guaranteed by the second amendment.



Speaking as a gun owner, I really appreciate people like you......you realize that it is an important right even though you don't own one.....and you're totally objective on the matter.
 
2013-01-25 07:25:25 PM

The_Sponge: Gremlins:  8 June 1984

Terminator:  26 October 1984

So there we have it.


I think the biggest hit to Dick Miller's career was being in "Gremlins 2."
 
2013-01-25 07:25:50 PM

Coco LaFemme: This here is a fine example of someone who is too stupid to own a firearm.  Bought the gun because he thought the "gub'mint" was going to ban it, and pointed it in his daughter's face for bringing home two B's instead of straight A's.

Take THAT man's gun and beat him upside the head with it......then don't give it back.


well the good news is he has been charged with a crime. If its a felony he doesnt get the guns back (dont know about a misdemeanor).
 
2013-01-25 07:25:53 PM
Looks like a case of, Give a man a hammer and the whole world starts looking like a nail.
 
2013-01-25 07:27:02 PM
This man is unhinged, and he should be ashamed of himself!

Clearly, he should have aimed a BB gun.
 
2013-01-25 07:31:09 PM
If you criminalize gins only criminals will get straight A's.
 
2013-01-25 07:32:24 PM

farkinfilipino: dear NRA,

this is why you can't have nice things.

Love,
Sane America



Dear Muslims,

Osama Bin Laden is why you can no longer have freedom of religion.

Dear Americans,

Terry Jones is why you can no longer have freedom of speech.

Dear Socialists,

Stalin is why you can no longer advocate socialism.

Love,

Everyone Else

Sweeping generalization and collective punishment based on the actions of 0.^A% of a group is fun!
 
2013-01-25 07:35:57 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: is sometimes referred as an AK-47 by gun enthusiasts?


Nothing that sells for $150 and is chambered in 7.62x54R would be called an AK. PSLs and true Dragunovs are usually lumped as Dragunovs and generally run $800 - $1,200. VEPR rifles chambered in 7.62x54R run even more. Even acknowledging that he was selling it to the store, that would have had to have been an epic rip-off for him to only get $150 for it. Especially since he got a reasonable price ($300 something) for the actual AK clone.

Either the 7.62x54R gun wasn't an AK type, wasn't actually chambered in 7.62x54R or he got taken for an epic ride by the gun store.
 
2013-01-25 07:36:43 PM
So it really comes down to he said she said. Waste of time, and saying he's a terrorist is a joke.
 
2013-01-25 07:40:13 PM

illannoyin: The media will search out every story involving a gun they can find however minor and blow it up into as big a national headline as possible. It's an attempt to portray all gun owners in a negative light thereby marginalizing responsible gun owners and create public support for more restricitve gun laws.

Unless of course it's one of those 2.4 million times a year where someone actually defends themselves with a gun. Those are either completely ignored or don't get beyond local news reporting.

Yes, this guy is an idiot.

Yes, he should be severely punished up to and including the confiscation of all his guns and the loss of his right to ever own guns again.

No, he does not represent all gun owners.

No matter how badly the media wants to portray idiots like him as just that. The more negative gun related stories they can sensationalize every day the more you will hear stupid shiat like "he makes the few dozen responsible gun owners look bad".

/ I own zero guns.
// I am not a member of the NRA or any other "gun rights" organization.
/// I am against any attempt to limit or infringe on all of our constitutional rights not just those guaranteed by the second amendment.


But isn't that the point - remove the white wash? Gun owners say that any limits will punish responsible guns owners without acknowledging just how many gun crimes are committed by people who were law-abiding right up until they pulled a weapon in anger or actually killed someone with one. It's not anti-second amendment to acknowledge that as members of a civil society we have obligations that come with our rights - and one of those obligations is to regulate that which kills and hurts more innocent americans than it saves.

Stop pretending that unless we can end gang gun crime we won't put a dent in the problem. Law-abiding gun owners turn their guns on people too. You know the, 'wow, he was such a nice guy/kid, I never thought he was the type to do X'.

By all means, keep your guns, it's your right to live in an armed camp, but for the love of gaia and all her little wizards at least entertain the idea that safe storage and background checks for all purchases private and public are reasonable limits that preserve other people's right to life and liberty, without taking away your right to bear arms.
 
2013-01-25 07:40:35 PM

Click Click D'oh: Especially since he got a reasonable price ($300 something) for the actual AK clone.


So there WAS an AK-47 involved and the Fark and article headline are accurate.

That's all I was asking, thx.
 
2013-01-25 07:43:08 PM

davidab: Coco LaFemme: This here is a fine example of someone who is too stupid to own a firearm.  Bought the gun because he thought the "gub'mint" was going to ban it, and pointed it in his daughter's face for bringing home two B's instead of straight A's.

Take THAT man's gun and beat him upside the head with it......then don't give it back.

well the good news is he has been charged with a crime. If its a felony he doesnt get the guns back (dont know about a misdemeanor).


you pull a gun on your kid for a bad report card and it shouldn't matter if it's a felony on not - all guns should go never to return, and you should need to find somewhere else to live. (He sold the one he used before the cops came).
 
2013-01-25 07:49:21 PM

Mugato: Since this is the latest in the dozen gun law threads for today, I'll post this here. Of all the proposed laws in the new package, I haven't heard one argument against the closing of the loophole that lets you buy any gun at a gun show without any papers or background checks.

/except "there takin' r guns!" of course


The main focus is the "ban" on weapons.  My theory is this: They will remove the ban, but keep in background checks.

Rachel Maddow pointed out that a majority of republicans support a lot of measures, but not the outright ban of weapons.
 
2013-01-25 07:53:29 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: So there WAS an AK-47 involved and the Fark and article headline are accurate.

That's all I was asking, thx.


To be Pedantic, no, an AK-47 wasn't involved... or else he would have gotten a whole heck of a lot more than $300ish.

All I'm saying is that with the information at hand, the identity of the second firearm in question can't be pinned down as to being another AK type due to some obvious questions about the value of the firearm and it's chambering.

All of which is just an exercise in accurate reporting and does nothing to diminish the fact that the father needs to have his balls slammed in a car door and should never be allowed around a firearm ever again.
 
2013-01-25 08:00:40 PM
Wonder how much of a beating she got when he found out he was in trouble.
 
2013-01-25 08:02:19 PM

Diogenes: He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

As we are all likely to do during a heated, physical exchange.


Big Jim's been drinkin' whiskey
And playing poker on a losin' night
And pretty soon, Big Jim starts a thinkin'
Somebody been cheatin' and lyin'
So Big Jim commences to fightin'
I wouldn't tell you no lie
And Big Jim done pull his pistol
Shot his friend right between the eyes

-- Lynrd Skynard, Saturday Night Special
 
2013-01-25 08:07:08 PM
This is a felony right? this had better be a felony. This man needs to never own a firearm again.

/gun owner
 
2013-01-25 08:07:25 PM

BronyMedic: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never use an AK on a teenager

/that's what shotguns are for

You know, Rock Salt won't really kill you, but it'll sure act as an effective behavioral modifier.

At any rate, and in all seriousness, this is insane. What responsible gun owner, let alone decent human parent, would threaten their OWN CHILD with a rifle. Period. At the very least, it's the basic definition of emotional abuse, and probably an indicator that something else non-kosher is going on in the house.

People like this need to be beat upside the head (Sorry, your rights end where my nose begins logic on this one. You do not have the right to threaten a CHILD with a rifle because of their freakin' report card) and be mandated to seek mental health evaluation and care.


Reminds me of a Dr. Who episode....

...and rock salt will kill from a shotgun...blank ammo will kill at short ranges.
 
2013-01-25 08:09:12 PM
Is this the thread where Dimensio makes bad analogies with cars and doesn't understand that if gun x is allowed and gun y is allowed and they are both similar, then that's what is called a loophole? (checks)
YEP!
 
2013-01-25 08:09:55 PM
Err gun x is allowed and gun y is NOT allowed
 
2013-01-25 08:12:06 PM

llachlan: Stop pretending that unless we can end gang gun crime we won't put a dent in the problem.


Putting an end to the problem is all that matters.

After spending a few billion in law enforcement, background checking, and media shilling for an AWB, voters will not be any happier if the next shooter who steals a gun uses one from Feinstein's approved list of "Good" weapons. We already experienced that after Columbine, which was entirely unaffected by magazine limits or feature bans.
It really sucks to make sacrifices for a solution and still not get it.

As a society the US got along with no firearm regulation for the better part of two centuries.
Now that we've spawned all these laws, the problem only seems to be getting worse.
At some point you have to ask the politicians if what they are doing really works. Because the question was how best to put a stop to rampage killings, not how best to infringe on everyone's rights.
"Saving one life" won't make people very happy. Finding the root cause of the problem will.

/We already know how to stop gangs and drug related crime.
/The fact that no one in politics wants to listen is not the fault of gun owners.
 
2013-01-25 08:12:39 PM

The Green Intern: muck4doo: The Green Intern: I don't care what the fark the gun was

We know. It's safe to assume it was an AK. Best not nobody have them ever in the future.

Amazing... my point went sailing straight over your head, and yet you still helped me support it.

I'll try explaining it point by point for the thinking impaired:

He pointed a gun at her. The make and model of gun is in question. A certain subset of people would rather debate what kind of gun it is instead of discussing the situation that the gun revolved around.

When I say "I don't care what kind of gun it was." I mean that I do not care if he was pointing an AK, a Glock, an M-16, GAU-8A, or a phased plasma gun in the forty watt range at me. The type of gun is secondary to "This man pointed a gun at his child to intimidate her." I like guns. I have guns. Not to the degree that many of you have... but I'm actually rather thankful for that.

Are you people this pedantic about what kind of car that student driver tried to run over her instructor with?


Doesn't matter what reality is. It was an AK-47. Ban them now.
 
2013-01-25 08:20:28 PM

Deep Contact: So it really comes down to he said she said. Waste of time, and saying he's a terrorist is a joke.


LOL it's fun to stick a gun in your daughter's face HURR HURR
 
2013-01-25 08:22:51 PM

Kittypie070: Deep Contact: So it really comes down to he said she said. Waste of time, and saying he's a terrorist is a joke.

LOL it's fun to stick a gun in your daughter's face HURR HURR


It's thinking like this that get's us invading Iraq.

/Yes, i went there.
 
2013-01-25 08:29:02 PM

hamdinger: KidneyStone: [www.politifake.org image 640x939]

Haw haw, I sure am smarter than them thar jurnalists. Them "edjoocated" types with all them fancy queer words and their schoolin' and all them books.. shoot, I heard most of 'em even have all the teeth they was born with. Can you imagine?


Is that honestly the first time you have seen that pic or do you just use the same lame joke every time?
 
2013-01-25 08:30:11 PM

david_gaithersburg: A bunch of people in Egypt, Libya, Syria, and Algeria would like to have a word with you.

People like you remind me of the royal loyalists from the late 1700's, they were wetting their panties too.


Are you retarded? Context matters, the US is not a third world country and it's not the 1770s.
 
2013-01-25 08:30:17 PM

muck4doo: ghare: muck4doo: Pert: Did anybody else notice that the receipts for guns were both dated AFTER the alleged incident?

I thought that too, but it looks like he sold them after that. Which doesn't make any sense if you think he bought them because of Obama's proposition. It's just the usual derpers trying to bend this story to help their political agenda. As a matter of fact, the whole damn story doesn't make sense unless you put it in a derp agenda format.

You should know all about derp, chico.

You really need help.


Back to this racist tard. How has this racist douche never been ban hammered? Seriously?
 
2013-01-25 08:31:35 PM

CADMonkey79: hamdinger: KidneyStone: [www.politifake.org image 640x939]

Haw haw, I sure am smarter than them thar jurnalists. Them "edjoocated" types with all them fancy queer words and their schoolin' and all them books.. shoot, I heard most of 'em even have all the teeth they was born with. Can you imagine?

Is that honestly the first time you have seen that pic or do you just use the same lame joke every time?


It's gun grabber humor. Hardy-har-har.
 
2013-01-25 08:34:55 PM

ghare: muck4doo: ghare: Gun nuts are nuts who have guns. Who new?

You are an expert when it comes to nuts.

Estás loco, hermano?


Funny racists are funny.
 
2013-01-25 08:35:45 PM

muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.


You're saying that???
 
2013-01-25 08:36:41 PM
anyone remember Furby's? Tickle Me Elmo? (pre-perv) Pet Rocks? Cabbage Patch Kids?
Seeing "men" standing around in a parking lot waiting for someone to leave the gun store so someone can go in reminds me of the epic christmas toy struggles.
Well except that I doubt that a Furby could kill their kid and or wife.

Takes a real man to point a gun at their family . . . a real man.
This whole "gun" thing disgusts me. Gun owner, hunter, Dad, Husband
 
2013-01-25 08:38:04 PM

Sybarite: Asian dad?

Kirill Bartashevitch

Hm, nope.


Yeah, I was disappointed too.
 
2013-01-25 08:38:43 PM

muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.


Don't feed the troll. Has Nina ever contributed anything but name calling and trolling in gun threads?
 
2013-01-25 08:38:49 PM
"Kirill Bartashevitch is charged with two counts of terroristic threats for pointing the gun at his daughter and wife."

"The daughter said she wasn't scared because she didn't think the gun was loaded."

"He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them."

So, the question is, is it terroristic to not frighten someone by pointing a gun they know you have just checked the chamber and made sure was empty at them? Either "gray area" or "no".
 
2013-01-25 08:41:14 PM

SwiftFox: "Kirill Bartashevitch is charged with two counts of terroristic threats for pointing the gun at his daughter and wife."

"The daughter said she wasn't scared because she didn't think the gun was loaded."

"He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them."

So, the question is, is it terroristic to not frighten someone by pointing a gun they know you have just checked the chamber and made sure was empty at them? Either "gray area" or "no".


At bare minimum, I think it should be gross misdemeanor assault. Let him serve a full year or 18 months or whatever the highest non-felony max sentence is.

Guns should only be pointed at dangerous or delicious animals, and the King of England if he's in your face.
 
2013-01-25 08:44:49 PM

pedrop357: SwiftFox: "Kirill Bartashevitch is charged with two counts of terroristic threats for pointing the gun at his daughter and wife."

"The daughter said she wasn't scared because she didn't think the gun was loaded."

"He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them."

So, the question is, is it terroristic to not frighten someone by pointing a gun they know you have just checked the chamber and made sure was empty at them? Either "gray area" or "no".

At bare minimum, I think it should be gross misdemeanor assault. Let him serve a full year or 18 months or whatever the highest non-felony max sentence is.

Guns should only be pointed at dangerous or delicious animals, and the King of England if he's in your face.


Wait, so how am I supposed to turn out the lights before I go to bed?
 
2013-01-25 08:44:53 PM

pedrop357: muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.

No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.

Don't feed the troll. Has Nina ever contributed anything but name calling and trolling in gun threads?


Good point.
 
2013-01-25 08:47:41 PM
bet he wished he had an AK-47
thepirata.com
 
2013-01-25 08:52:34 PM
When I pass a school I don't think, "Look at all those straight-A students!" When I pass a church I'm not sure it's filled with kind, thoughtful, spiritual people When I merge onto the highway I'm not confident I'm surrounded by competent, attentive and alert drivers.

Going by the daily dipsh*t like this guy and the derp in these threads I'm thinking gun owners rate about the same kind of assessment. At this point I think advocating increased gun regulation would be the minimum requirement for "responsible gun owner."
 
2013-01-25 08:57:37 PM

The Green Intern: muck4doo: The Green Intern: I don't care what the fark the gun was

We know. It's safe to assume it was an AK. Best not nobody have them ever in the future.

Amazing... my point went sailing straight over your head, and yet you still helped me support it.

I'll try explaining it point by point for the thinking impaired:

He pointed a gun at her. The make and model of gun is in question. A certain subset of people would rather debate what kind of gun it is instead of discussing the situation that the gun revolved around.

When I say "I don't care what kind of gun it was." I mean that I do not care if he was pointing an AK, a Glock, an M-16, GAU-8A, or a phased plasma gun in the forty watt range at me. The type of gun is secondary to "This man pointed a gun at his child to intimidate her." I like guns. I have guns. Not to the degree that many of you have... but I'm actually rather thankful for that.

Are you people this pedantic about what kind of car that student driver tried to run over her instructor with?


Thank you, thank you, thank you. It truly does not matter what kind of fire arm this crime was committed with. Not now, not ever, does it matter. A moron pointed a gun at 2 family members and then sold the evidence.

Most like so he could say "Officer, I don't even have a gun, you have a good time searching for it," when they came for him.

I have guns. I enjoy guns. I enjoy the hell out of blowing little paper targets to shreds. Nobody will ever enjoy guns as much as you do, but I like them well enough.

If I get run down by a car, I hope you don't spend all day worrying about what kind it was after they catch the guy and have the car.

I once worked for the media. Its hard to be the least bit accurate because all the bottom feeders give you conflicting information. Not only is it impossible to be an expert on every subject in the world yourself, but the bottom feeders give you conflicting information and you have to pick one of them and go with his version.
 
2013-01-25 08:58:29 PM

JustGetItRight: Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!

THANK YOU

I absolutely adore how the headline screams Dad points AK-47 at daughter and yet the story states beyond any doubt at all that the weapon was not an AK-47.

I'd insert the journalist's guide to firearms here, but it has ceased to be funny. This isn't stupidity, it is a clear effort to create the image of a crisis that doesn't exist.

Having said that, dad's a dumbass who should both go to prison and lose the right to own a gun.


So you are saying there is a vast conspiracy where the media has gotten together and is actively trying to create mass hysteria so tut guns can be taken away? Who else is involved?
 
2013-01-25 08:58:35 PM

Maximer: El_Swino: Hey, internet experts...

[www.centerfiresystems.com image 800x159]


AK action, chambered for 7.62x54R.
You're welcome.

Yeah, while AK-replicate weapons chambered in 7.62x54R certainly exist it seems unlikely they'd be going for only $150... particularly post Newtown. So, it seems more likely that it's a Mosin-Nagant.


If I ran a gun shop and an employee confirmed that the shop purchased an "AK-47 style gun" from someone when it was actually a Mosin-Nagant, I'd fire their dumb ass. For confusing anything resembling an AK with a Mosin-Nagant.
 
2013-01-25 09:00:48 PM

Ghastly: tricycleracer: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

Then what's the farking point?  You may as well have pointed a hammer or an alligator at them.

I can't help but wonder if the girl had an alligator of her own this whole thing might never have happened. I don't know, I'm just asking the question.


Well, she would have, but all of the alligators were allocated to schools...
 
2013-01-25 09:04:22 PM

nickerj1: meat0918: CrscntBufS: This is why background checks aren't as effective as they could be. People change and sometimes for the worse.

Right, but we should still have them for all firearms purchases. I'd wager until it became news, most Americans probably assumed all firearms required a background check.

It's a minor inconvenience that while not perfect, is something that should have been done a long time ago.

I hear this a lot.
1. Define "background check". Are we talking the same one used by FFL dealers? Or are we talking some other type of background check of varying legitimacy.
2. What's the incentive for private sellers to do the background check?
3. How will you ensure compliance by private sellers?

If you answer to 2 or 3 is "make them felons if they don't do it", then yeaaaah. Not gonna happen.


The biggest reason I can think of is peace of mind. I don't want to worry about being at fault if I sell a gun to someone that ends up crazy and shoots an old lady or a school full of kids. Not that I'd sell to someone that looked sketchy, but I don't want to take the chance. I'd much rather spend a few bucks to go through my local FFL. Let the buyer fill out a 4473 and go through a background check. That way it's out of my hands and becomes the govt's problem.
 
2013-01-25 09:04:52 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: Is this the thread where Dimensio makes bad analogies with cars and doesn't understand that if gun x is allowed and gun y is allowed and they are both similar, then that's what is called a loophole? (checks)
YEP!


Dimensio is one of the smartest motherfarkers on fark... You shut your whore mouth!
 
2013-01-25 09:10:05 PM

lostcat: Google image search on: "7.62x54R"



Looks "AK-47-style to me. Plus it's semi-automatic.


Here's the other gun he bought:

Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39



Again...looks like an AK-47.

Article doesn't say which gun he was brandishing. Based on the fact that the daughter said it was an AK-47, I'm going with the Zastava.

Why are the gun people trying so hard to make this into an issue of the "media" tricking the public?


Because they are paranoid gun hoarders who have their tin-foil hats on way too tight?
 
2013-01-25 09:12:47 PM
Interesting that when Congress has a 9% approval rate, there are people that are more than willing to give up the tools to protect themselves.
 
2013-01-25 09:14:40 PM

xynix: Depends on if he gets a felony or not ;)


Actually, since the people he pointed the gun at were related to him, even if he gets it pled down to a misdemeanor, that misdemeanor will probably be classified as 'Domestic Violence'. And he'd still be a prohibited person.

Personally, I think that's BS. The dividing line between keeping your rights and losing your rights should be the dividing line between felony and misdemeanor. This dude should get the felony. I have no tolerance for screwing around with a gun like that.
 
2013-01-25 09:14:43 PM

way south: llachlan: Stop pretending that unless we can end gang gun crime we won't put a dent in the problem.

Putting an end to the problem is all that matters.

After spending a few billion in law enforcement, background checking, and media shilling for an AWB, voters will not be any happier if the next shooter who steals a gun uses one from Feinstein's approved list of "Good" weapons. We already experienced that after Columbine, which was entirely unaffected by magazine limits or feature bans.
It really sucks to make sacrifices for a solution and still not get it.

As a society the US got along with no firearm regulation for the better part of two centuries.
Now that we've spawned all these laws, the problem only seems to be getting worse.
At some point you have to ask the politicians if what they are doing really works. Because the question was how best to put a stop to rampage killings, not how best to infringe on everyone's rights.
"Saving one life" won't make people very happy. Finding the root cause of the problem will.

/We already know how to stop gangs and drug related crime.
/The fact that no one in politics wants to listen is not the fault of gun owners.


Prohibition related crime was what led to the NFA in 34. A lot of drug and civil unrest crime in the 60s was what led to the GCA of 68; though it rode on the wake of RFK and MLK's assassination.

End the drug war and save thousands of lives a year-not to mention all the things that go along with it-improved relationships with police, less opportunities for corruption, slightly more respect for the law, etc. It could also save thousands or tens of thousands of lives in Mexico.

The billions (or tens of billions) saved can be used at the federal level to pay for programs to deal with urban decay and mental health OR (my preferred solution) returned to the people via tax breaks and let each state figure out how they want to handle things.
 
2013-01-25 09:20:18 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."

Yeah, I've never gotten that whole "armed society is a polite society" thing. What, are they saying people with guns are likely to shoot people who are rude?

And this is supposed to make me feel better about other gun owners?


i've seen that phrase used here on Fark and i took it as sarcasm only. speaking from personal life experience i can say there are a lot of unwell people that should never be allowed anywhere near a firearm. it's not funny: there are people who struggle hard every day to resist killing others. they are in need of counseling and medication. on top of that look how many inner city youth never reach 25 because they live in crime with easily available fire power, poor upbringing, lack of education and overall stupidity. i've got no problem with mentally sound responsible people owning firearms: most legal owners go their whole life never having an incident.
 
2013-01-25 09:28:56 PM

way south: As a society the US got along with no firearm regulation for the better part of two centuries.
Now that we've spawned all these laws, the problem only seems to be getting worse.


An Increase population density and a decrease in a sense of personal responsibility in any society and you will see an increase in gun crimes - it has very little to do with proliferation of laws. We have too much, 'it's not my fault' and 'it's only a little law, it's not like I killed someone' and not enough manning up.
 
2013-01-25 09:43:12 PM
i471.photobucket.com

Are we sure the father's real last name isn't Tackleberry?
 
2013-01-25 09:43:41 PM

The_Sponge: illannoyin: / I own zero guns.
// I am not a member of the NRA or any other "gun rights" organization.
/// I am against any attempt to limit or infringe on all of our constitutional rights not just those guaranteed by the second amendment.


Speaking as a gun owner, I really appreciate people like you......you realize that it is an important right even though you don't own one.....and you're totally objective on the matter.


Don't high-five your alt. It's bad form.
 
2013-01-25 09:43:46 PM
[nothelping.jpg]
 
2013-01-25 09:45:53 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: She got two B's? She's just starting to fill out.


Should have closed the thread right here.
 
2013-01-25 09:50:37 PM
Terroristic threats!>? OH NOES>>!1 He could have got the same charge by yelling at them and saying he wanted to harm them. BUT lol guns.
 
2013-01-25 09:51:52 PM

david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?


Because up until the other day, he was just another member of society...

/when we can bring people back from the dead, then we can talk about not licensing guns
 
2013-01-25 09:52:07 PM
way south: "As a society the US got along with no firearm regulation for the better part of two centuries."

If you believe that, I've got a bridge to sell you.

The revolutionary war was barely cold before the first weapons legislation was passed and this whole argument first started, over what the 2nd amendment *really means* and what States could and could not legislate accordingly.
 
2013-01-25 09:55:05 PM

base935: Interesting that when Congress has a 9% approval rate, there are people that are more than willing to give up the tools to protect themselves.


I'm not letting anyone take my fists. What are you so scared of that requires more than a good one-two punch?
 
2013-01-25 09:57:23 PM
Nadie_AZ: Thank you. This can't be stated enough. And don't ever point it at anything you aren't willing to destroy.

Difficult, weapons are always pointing at something.
 
2013-01-25 09:57:39 PM
7.62x54R...Oldest military cartridge still in active use.
 
2013-01-25 10:00:08 PM
You are all missing the point! His hair is atrocious! Why? Why grow your hair so long but be bald on top? The only thing you're gaining by doing that is ridicule.

kmsp.images.worldnow.com
 
2013-01-25 10:10:05 PM
What a POS article. The one they call an AK isn't close to an AK.

The second firearm they mention is the same caliber as an AK, and probably looks like an AK. But that isn't the firearm that was pointed at the girl.

The media shouldn't be able to report about firearms.
 
2013-01-25 10:13:05 PM
I will support any and all morons and idiots who share a political view with me.
 
2013-01-25 10:17:01 PM

BGates: The second firearm they mention is the same caliber as an AK, and probably looks like an AK. But that isn't the firearm that was pointed at the girl.


Where does it say that?

/article was poorly written
 
2013-01-25 10:26:34 PM

Yogimus: I will support any and all morons and idiots who share a political view with me.


Charles Schumer, shouldn't you be looking for a camera to get in front of?
 
2013-01-25 10:29:22 PM

muck4doo: CADMonkey79: hamdinger: KidneyStone: [www.politifake.org image 640x939]

Haw haw, I sure am smarter than them thar jurnalists. Them "edjoocated" types with all them fancy queer words and their schoolin' and all them books.. shoot, I heard most of 'em even have all the teeth they was born with. Can you imagine?

Is that honestly the first time you have seen that pic or do you just use the same lame joke every time?

It's gun grabber humor. Hardy-har-har.


Huh. That's so weird. So apparently it's not cool to stereotype an entire group of people based on having a single thing in common like gun ownership. So maybe journalists... nah...

jernelisum suckz amirite guise?!
 
2013-01-25 10:42:47 PM

Pert: Did anybody else notice that the receipts for guns were both dated AFTER the alleged incident?


Yes, the receipts from him selling them, not buying them.
 
2013-01-25 10:53:40 PM

Coco LaFemme: This here is a fine example of someone who is too stupid to own a firearm.  Bought the gun because he thought the "gub'mint" was going to ban it, and pointed it in his daughter's face for bringing home two B's instead of straight A's.

Take THAT man's gun and beat him upside the head with it......then don't give it back.



I am a firm believer that the threat of banning certain firearms has made people that never would have bought them purchase them. It is causing the damn problem.
 
2013-01-25 10:59:42 PM

Blues_X: You can get an AK for just $150?


maybe it was a preowned model
 
2013-01-25 11:01:24 PM
i.imgur.com
So... you're saying it was a bad day?
 
2013-01-25 11:10:04 PM

muck4doo: BronyMedic: The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

To be fair, it's a lot harder to get an aortic sheer at 20 miles an hour. Or turn a pedestrian into a buff of pink mist.

A donkey and cart can do the same job as a truck.


there are refrigerated donkey carts?
 
2013-01-25 11:10:33 PM
If convicted, each charge carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

I say max everything across the board with this guy. He needs to be removed from the gene pool, even if it is temporarily. Also, just on general principle alone. Start doing it with every one of these irresponsible gun owners.

/owner
 
2013-01-25 11:11:58 PM
So he's a typical member of the well-regulated militia then?
 
2013-01-25 11:12:06 PM

clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47
[thepirata.com image 410x599]


thepirata.com
True. He wouldn't have had to lean in as far, possibly soiling his jack boots.
 
2013-01-25 11:18:21 PM

zabadu: [imageshack.us image 678x800]


uptight killjoys?
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-01-26 12:42:42 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: She got two B's? She's just starting to fill out.


Soooo, are you inferring if she had 2Ds dad might have used his 'gun' on her?

/yeah yeah, window seat please. wheres my drink and snack?
 
2013-01-26 01:15:29 AM
Why did he point the gun at his wife? Did she make a sub-par sandwhich?
 
2013-01-26 02:27:31 AM
responsible gun owner

thepirata.com
 
2013-01-26 02:44:29 AM

clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47


If the Jews had guns, maybe they could have stopped Hitler. But you know who couldn't stop Hitler?

France.

And they had guns.

/if it took the entire world 6 years to stop Hitler, what makes you think a group of German Jews could?
 
2013-01-26 02:46:12 AM

clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47
[thepirata.com image 410x599]


Bet it wouldn't have made a difference.
 
2013-01-26 03:04:31 AM
I don't feel the need to buy a Kalashnikov. I know a couple of morons who did though. If the shiat ever hits the fan and I feel I can't possibly survive without one because the apocalypse is "on": I'll just get out my .243 and go AK hunting. Problem solved.
 
2013-01-26 03:17:00 AM

Electrify: clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47

If the Jews had guns, maybe they could have stopped Hitler. But you know who couldn't stop Hitler?

France.

And they had guns.

/if it took the entire world 6 years to stop Hitler, what makes you think a group of German Jews could?


Might have taken a lot of Nazis with them, which counts for something.
 
2013-01-26 03:19:29 AM

pedrop357: Might have taken a lot of Nazis with them, which counts for something.


They did take a lot of them with them. The Resistance in every country killed thousands of Nazi Soldiers over the course of the war.

We've been over this multiple times, but you CANNOT fight an enemy with guerilla warfare who has no qualms about wiping a village off the map for every soldier you kill. There's a reason it works against the US generally - we tend to have moral limitations with wanton killing, and a population which is divided on war. Germany was not. And they whole-heartedly believed they were dealing with livestock, worth nothing more.
 
2013-01-26 03:39:02 AM

BronyMedic: pedrop357: Might have taken a lot of Nazis with them, which counts for something.

They did take a lot of them with them. The Resistance in every country killed thousands of Nazi Soldiers over the course of the war.

We've been over this multiple times, but you CANNOT fight an enemy with guerilla warfare who has no qualms about wiping a village off the map for every soldier you kill. There's a reason it works against the US generally - we tend to have moral limitations with wanton killing, and a population which is divided on war. Germany was not. And they whole-heartedly believed they were dealing with livestock, worth nothing more.


I agree that the Germans were willing to bomb villages, etc. and that made armed resistance or guerilla difficult.

I don't agree that any of that proves the folly of an armed populace as we have other examples of guerilla warfare working well.

It also shows that disarming or keeping a group disarmed is one step towards massacring them AND/OR shows that they're viewed as less human which alone may allow/enable/justify slaughtering them.
Ie., the type of person to disarm a population may be the type who would have no qualms about killing them as the disarmament is an indicator of how he/she views those people.

This probably needs a little more clarification, but I'm off to sleep now.
 
2013-01-26 03:46:35 AM
Would someone please tell me where i can buy an ak47 that fires 7.62x54r? That would be news to me.
 
2013-01-26 03:49:53 AM
The only ak style rifle i know of that shoots that caliber is the svd. But of course they wouldnt call it by its real name. Nope its an ak.gotta sell the story somehow, right?
 
2013-01-26 03:55:46 AM

Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!


My point exactly
 
2013-01-26 03:59:12 AM

pedrop357: Electrify: clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47

If the Jews had guns, maybe they could have stopped Hitler. But you know who couldn't stop Hitler?

France.

And they had guns.

/if it took the entire world 6 years to stop Hitler, what makes you think a group of German Jews could?

Might have taken a lot of Nazis with them, which counts for something.


Theres also the fact that most of europe was trying actively to stay out of war in the beginning in order to avoid europe becoming a wateland like after the first.
 
2013-01-26 04:01:28 AM

Bucky Katt: Blues_X: You can get an AK for just $150?

maybe it was a preowned model


Or not an ak.
 
2013-01-26 04:07:40 AM

Mike_1962: Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.

Which is really the point, not putting a gun to your daughter's head for school marks you deem unacceptable.


No the point is that the media is literally calling anything and everything an assault rifle to bump the scare factor. The more people think assault rifles (tongue in cheek when i say that) are being used in crime the more those who are misinformed are willing to vote to ban them.as for the fact that this guy pointed a gun at his family, loaded or not, castrate the stupid farker or something, thats farked up.
 
2013-01-26 04:53:04 AM
"The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375."
 
2013-01-26 05:19:54 AM

topcon: Uh, wow, that's the most stupid article I've seen in some time.

An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

There is no "AK-47 style gun" chambered in 7.62x54R.

The fact the gun is 7.62x54R, and cost $150, almost certainly means it was a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle that hold five rounds, not an AK-47.

Holy shiat, that is a golden article.


Actually there is, its called the VEPR

http://www.slickguns.com/product/russian-vepr-rifle-762x54r-16-12-bar r el-and-integrated-sights-89999

/why yes, I do want one.
 
2013-01-26 05:52:20 AM

Sybarite: Asian dad?

Kirill Bartashevitch

Hm, nope.


Actually, probably, yes. Two-thirds of Russia is part of the Asian continent..
 
2013-01-26 06:15:24 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: muck4doo: A donkey and cart can do the same job as a truck.

Just need more donkeys and more carts. Anyway truck dont have to go over 20 miles an hour. Truth be told if you limited them to that speed they could pull doubles and triples and save the environment will all the fuel you'll save.

Mugato: Yes. Especially in emergencies. More so than we need assault rifles.

/not for gun control
//stupid argument


Exactly, it is a stupid argument. As is saying all we need is gun will smaller mags or "less firepower". What does that even mean? Smaller bullets with less powder behind them? We as a country need to take responsibility for the real issue and stop trying to blame inanimate objects. Gun violence over all is down and the only reason we are having these debates 5 times a day is because of mentally ill people getting their hands on weapons (not just guns). There are billions and billions of weapons of every shape and size, why not focus our efforts on the relatively few mentally ill people?


Because that would centrally involve the question of the shameful state of American public mental health care.
 
2013-01-26 06:20:10 AM
Another flag burning story to get our minds off the government stealing us blind.
 
2013-01-26 06:38:20 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."

Yeah, I've never gotten that whole "armed society is a polite society" thing. What, are they saying people with guns are likely to shoot people who are rude?

And this is supposed to make me feel better about other gun owners?


It's more that we as individuals will be more polite and considerate to each other if everyone we interacted with might be armed.
 
2013-01-26 06:38:33 AM

Deep Contact: Another flag burning story to get our minds off the government stealing us blind.


Flag burning is a protected form of free speech.
Putting the muzzle of an AK-47 to someone's head is assault with a deadly weapon, NOT a protected form of free speech.
 
2013-01-26 08:17:01 AM

BronyMedic: Deep Contact: Another flag burning story to get our minds off the government stealing us blind.

Flag burning is a protected form of free speech.
Putting the muzzle of an AK-47 to someone's head is assault with a deadly weapon, NOT a protected form of free speech.


Prove he really did that.
 
2013-01-26 08:34:13 AM

muck4doo: muck4doo: Cupajo: muck4doo: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

How so?

There are plenty of examples, but the most egregious recent example is the Tiahrt Amendment

Link? Nevermind, I'll google it.


What is the Tiahrt Amendment? Yeah, nice try there.


Wow, it sure didn't take you long to find an editorial that supported your pre-determined position on the amendment you hand't even heard of thirty seconds before. Go read the actual amendment. It prevents the ATF from releasing background check info to anyone and it mandates the destruction of that data after 24 hours. If that doesn't make it more difficult to enforce existing gun laws, I don't know what would.
 
2013-01-26 08:50:32 AM

Deep Contact: Prove he really did that.


img.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-26 09:02:03 AM
she didn't think the gun was loaded.
p1.pkcdn.com
 
2013-01-26 09:28:43 AM

highwayrun: ArcadianRefugee: Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."

Yeah, I've never gotten that whole "armed society is a polite society" thing. What, are they saying people with guns are likely to shoot people who are rude?

And this is supposed to make me feel better about other gun owners?

It's more that we as individuals will be more polite and considerate to each other if everyone we interacted with might be armed.


Right, but why? Because of the fear that rudeness is now an offense to be shot over. Hence the above.
 
2013-01-26 10:21:33 AM

ArcadianRefugee: highwayrun: ArcadianRefugee: Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."

Yeah, I've never gotten that whole "armed society is a polite society" thing. What, are they saying people with guns are likely to shoot people who are rude?

And this is supposed to make me feel better about other gun owners?

It's more that we as individuals will be more polite and considerate to each other if everyone we interacted with might be armed.

Right, but why? Because of the fear that rudeness is now an offense to be shot over. Hence the above.


And I got chided for suggesting that FARKers would ever champion shooting people over trivial matters. Boy, were they silly.
 
2013-01-26 11:11:47 AM

BronyMedic: ArcadianRefugee: highwayrun: ArcadianRefugee: Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."

Yeah, I've never gotten that whole "armed society is a polite society" thing. What, are they saying people with guns are likely to shoot people who are rude?

And this is supposed to make me feel better about other gun owners?

It's more that we as individuals will be more polite and considerate to each other if everyone we interacted with might be armed.

Right, but why? Because of the fear that rudeness is now an offense to be shot over. Hence the above.

And I got chided for suggesting that FARKers would ever champion shooting people over trivial matters. Boy, were they silly.


Does it feel good being you?
 
2013-01-26 12:08:37 PM

base935: Interesting that when Congress has a 9% approval rate, there are people that are more than willing to give up the tools to protect themselves.


How damaged does a brain have to be to draw a connection between a low approval rating for Congress and some situation where a branch of the government successfully convinces all military personnel to implement martial law?

And what would be the purpose of declaring martial law in the US? How would that advance any agenda? What citizen, left or right, would go along with it, and what benefit would be derived from enacting it? There would be no support for it from the leaders of industry who drive the economy. The rest of the world would condone it. Nobody would profit from it. Really...why would it ever happen? Let alone how?

Basically, this idea is such a teenage fantasy around hoarding arms and supplies that you'd think anyone with a shred of intelligence would be embarrassed to hint that they believe it.

This whole idea has been mostly replaced by the zombie fantasy. It's a reason to stockpile arms and supplies, and you can always laugh it off as just being for fun.
 
2013-01-26 12:16:37 PM

pedrop357: Electrify: clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47

If the Jews had guns, maybe they could have stopped Hitler. But you know who couldn't stop Hitler?

France.

And they had guns.

/if it took the entire world 6 years to stop Hitler, what makes you think a group of German Jews could?

Might have taken a lot of Nazis with them, which counts for something.


your right, better to just put your head up against that germans pistol and give up. my god this has to go down and one of the dumbest arguments i have ever seen...
 
2013-01-26 12:18:36 PM

NateAsbestos: clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47
[thepirata.com image 410x599]

Bet it wouldn't have made a difference.


your right, fighting back has never worked... yet another coward makes a post
 
2013-01-26 12:19:51 PM

Haliburton Cummings: responsible gun owner

[thepirata.com image 410x599]



yes the guy about to fall on top of his family in the ditch, he obayed the german laws, no jews are allowed to own a gun.
 
2013-01-26 02:26:19 PM

clane: NateAsbestos: clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47
[thepirata.com image 410x599]

Bet it wouldn't have made a difference.

your right, fighting back has never worked... yet another coward makes a post


Who are you planning to fight back against?

You pay taxes to support a trained military that is sworn to defend you against foreign powers.

You live in a country with nearly unparalleled personal freedom, and it's in the best interest of that country and it's economic health to keep those freedoms in place and you happy. But somehow you remained convinced that there's a "THEM" out there, just waiting for you to drop your guard and put down your guns...And then "THEY" will pounce on you.

Get this. I've been around for over 40 years, completely unarmed, and I've never been oppressed yet.
 
2013-01-26 06:24:13 PM

Dimensio: vpb: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

We already do regulate cars.  They have to have things like break lights for instance.  Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.

What specific automobile models are banned by name?


The whole gun/auto comparison is farking retarded.

But to answer your question: anything that isn't street legal, i.e. without bumpers and failing to meet various other requirements. Example: Nissan Skyline Gtr R34
 
2013-01-26 06:44:01 PM

Deep Contact: Another flag burning story to get our minds off the government stealing us blind.


Please give examples of the government "stealing" from the general population.

Taxes don't count.

You pay taxes because you live here and you want nice things like roads, a military, regulatory agencies that make sure the products you buy don't poison you or explode when you plug them in.

If you don't like paying taxes you can leave for another country, but I'm guessing you'll pay taxes there too. That's how governments pay for the things we need.
 
2013-01-26 08:54:36 PM

Dimensio: vpb: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

We already do regulate cars.  They have to have things like break lights for instance.  Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.

What specific automobile models are banned by name?


Here's a list.

And another list.

And of course this classic.
 
2013-01-26 09:22:24 PM

Cupajo: muck4doo: muck4doo: Cupajo: muck4doo: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

How so?

There are plenty of examples, but the most egregious recent example is the Tiahrt Amendment

Link? Nevermind, I'll google it.


What is the Tiahrt Amendment? Yeah, nice try there.

Wow, it sure didn't take you long to find an editorial that supported your pre-determined position on the amendment you hand't even heard of thirty seconds before. Go read the actual amendment. It prevents the ATF from releasing background check info to anyone and it mandates the destruction of that data after 24 hours. If that doesn't make it more difficult to enforce existing gun laws, I don't know what would.


Try giving a link next time if you want to point me to your view rather than leaving me the option to google it myself.
 
2013-01-26 09:36:37 PM

lostcat: Deep Contact: Another flag burning story to get our minds off the government stealing us blind.

Please give examples of the government "stealing" from the general population.

Taxes don't count.

You pay taxes because you live here and you want nice things like roads, a military, regulatory agencies that make sure the products you buy don't poison you or explode when you plug them in.

If you don't like paying taxes you can leave for another country, but I'm guessing you'll pay taxes there too. That's how governments pay for the things we need.


Obammmma taking a 4 million dollar vacation is stealing my money.
 
2013-01-26 11:06:23 PM

muck4doo: Cupajo: muck4doo: muck4doo: Cupajo: muck4doo: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

How so?

There are plenty of examples, but the most egregious recent example is the Tiahrt Amendment

Link? Nevermind, I'll google it.


What is the Tiahrt Amendment? Yeah, nice try there.

Wow, it sure didn't take you long to find an editorial that supported your pre-determined position on the amendment you hand't even heard of thirty seconds before. Go read the actual amendment. It prevents the ATF from releasing background check info to anyone and it mandates the destruction of that data after 24 hours. If that doesn't make it more difficult to enforce existing gun laws, I don't know what would.

Try giving a link next time if you want to point me to your view rather than leaving me the option to google it myself.


It's bullshiat. It has to do with TRACE data. Anytime a firearm serial number is submitted to the ATF to be traced.

The ATF itself said the data was subjective and not all related to the firearms' use in crime. Some areas were submitting any semi-auto 'assault weapons' they encountered to the be traced even if they weren't used in a crime or even suspected of being used.

If people don't like the Tihart amendment, blame the cities that were padding the database, and the assholes misusing that information to push an agenda.
 
2013-01-27 01:47:40 AM
Obammmma taking a 4 million dollar vacation is stealing my money.


Aaaaaaaaaaaand this is why sane people stay the fk away from witless freaks like you.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-01-27 11:27:50 AM

lostcat: clane: NateAsbestos: clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47
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Bet it wouldn't have made a difference.

your right, fighting back has never worked... yet another coward makes a post

Who are you planning to fight back against?

You pay taxes to support a trained military that is sworn to defend you against foreign powers.

You live in a country with nearly unparalleled personal freedom, and it's in the best interest of that country and it's economic health to keep those freedoms in place and you happy. But somehow you remained convinced that there's a "THEM" out there, just waiting for you to drop your guard and put down your guns...And then "THEY" will pounce on you.

Get this. I've been around for over 40 years, completely unarmed, and I've never been oppressed yet.


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2013-01-28 08:56:41 AM

kpaxoid: GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: tricycleracer: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

Then what's the farking point?  You may as well have pointed a hammer or an alligator at them.


You would be correct if we can be certain both the mother and daughter knew the weapon was not loaded.


Well now, I don't recall saying any of that.
 
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