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2013-01-26 01:15:29 AM
Why did he point the gun at his wife? Did she make a sub-par sandwhich?
 
2013-01-26 02:27:31 AM
responsible gun owner

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2013-01-26 02:44:29 AM

clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47


If the Jews had guns, maybe they could have stopped Hitler. But you know who couldn't stop Hitler?

France.

And they had guns.

/if it took the entire world 6 years to stop Hitler, what makes you think a group of German Jews could?
 
2013-01-26 02:46:12 AM

clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47
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Bet it wouldn't have made a difference.
 
2013-01-26 03:04:31 AM
I don't feel the need to buy a Kalashnikov. I know a couple of morons who did though. If the shiat ever hits the fan and I feel I can't possibly survive without one because the apocalypse is "on": I'll just get out my .243 and go AK hunting. Problem solved.
 
2013-01-26 03:17:00 AM

Electrify: clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47

If the Jews had guns, maybe they could have stopped Hitler. But you know who couldn't stop Hitler?

France.

And they had guns.

/if it took the entire world 6 years to stop Hitler, what makes you think a group of German Jews could?


Might have taken a lot of Nazis with them, which counts for something.
 
2013-01-26 03:19:29 AM

pedrop357: Might have taken a lot of Nazis with them, which counts for something.


They did take a lot of them with them. The Resistance in every country killed thousands of Nazi Soldiers over the course of the war.

We've been over this multiple times, but you CANNOT fight an enemy with guerilla warfare who has no qualms about wiping a village off the map for every soldier you kill. There's a reason it works against the US generally - we tend to have moral limitations with wanton killing, and a population which is divided on war. Germany was not. And they whole-heartedly believed they were dealing with livestock, worth nothing more.
 
2013-01-26 03:39:02 AM

BronyMedic: pedrop357: Might have taken a lot of Nazis with them, which counts for something.

They did take a lot of them with them. The Resistance in every country killed thousands of Nazi Soldiers over the course of the war.

We've been over this multiple times, but you CANNOT fight an enemy with guerilla warfare who has no qualms about wiping a village off the map for every soldier you kill. There's a reason it works against the US generally - we tend to have moral limitations with wanton killing, and a population which is divided on war. Germany was not. And they whole-heartedly believed they were dealing with livestock, worth nothing more.


I agree that the Germans were willing to bomb villages, etc. and that made armed resistance or guerilla difficult.

I don't agree that any of that proves the folly of an armed populace as we have other examples of guerilla warfare working well.

It also shows that disarming or keeping a group disarmed is one step towards massacring them AND/OR shows that they're viewed as less human which alone may allow/enable/justify slaughtering them.
Ie., the type of person to disarm a population may be the type who would have no qualms about killing them as the disarmament is an indicator of how he/she views those people.

This probably needs a little more clarification, but I'm off to sleep now.
 
2013-01-26 03:46:35 AM
Would someone please tell me where i can buy an ak47 that fires 7.62x54r? That would be news to me.
 
2013-01-26 03:49:53 AM
The only ak style rifle i know of that shoots that caliber is the svd. But of course they wouldnt call it by its real name. Nope its an ak.gotta sell the story somehow, right?
 
2013-01-26 03:55:46 AM

Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!


My point exactly
 
2013-01-26 03:59:12 AM

pedrop357: Electrify: clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47

If the Jews had guns, maybe they could have stopped Hitler. But you know who couldn't stop Hitler?

France.

And they had guns.

/if it took the entire world 6 years to stop Hitler, what makes you think a group of German Jews could?

Might have taken a lot of Nazis with them, which counts for something.


Theres also the fact that most of europe was trying actively to stay out of war in the beginning in order to avoid europe becoming a wateland like after the first.
 
2013-01-26 04:01:28 AM

Bucky Katt: Blues_X: You can get an AK for just $150?

maybe it was a preowned model


Or not an ak.
 
2013-01-26 04:07:40 AM

Mike_1962: Barracuda: I came here to say "WTF, AK's do not chamber the 7.62x54R round..."

Sounds like the guy bought a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle of Russian make which has been around since the 1800's.  Fixed magazine, 5 total I think, bolt action.  SOOOOOO... not an AK, not even a little.  Well, if you consider them both being Russian make and wood stocks and the same diameter bullet... but holy fark are people pushing this AK / AR / Assault Rifle thing beyond stupid at this point.

Which is really the point, not putting a gun to your daughter's head for school marks you deem unacceptable.


No the point is that the media is literally calling anything and everything an assault rifle to bump the scare factor. The more people think assault rifles (tongue in cheek when i say that) are being used in crime the more those who are misinformed are willing to vote to ban them.as for the fact that this guy pointed a gun at his family, loaded or not, castrate the stupid farker or something, thats farked up.
 
2013-01-26 04:53:04 AM
"The other receipt was for Frontiersman Sport, Inc., also dated Jan. 22, 2013. The gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold a newer AK-47 clone rifle -- a Cal-Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39 -- for $375."
 
2013-01-26 05:19:54 AM

topcon: Uh, wow, that's the most stupid article I've seen in some time.

An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.

There is no "AK-47 style gun" chambered in 7.62x54R.

The fact the gun is 7.62x54R, and cost $150, almost certainly means it was a Mosin Nagant, a bolt action rifle that hold five rounds, not an AK-47.

Holy shiat, that is a golden article.


Actually there is, its called the VEPR

http://www.slickguns.com/product/russian-vepr-rifle-762x54r-16-12-bar r el-and-integrated-sights-89999

/why yes, I do want one.
 
2013-01-26 05:52:20 AM

Sybarite: Asian dad?

Kirill Bartashevitch

Hm, nope.


Actually, probably, yes. Two-thirds of Russia is part of the Asian continent..
 
2013-01-26 06:15:24 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: muck4doo: A donkey and cart can do the same job as a truck.

Just need more donkeys and more carts. Anyway truck dont have to go over 20 miles an hour. Truth be told if you limited them to that speed they could pull doubles and triples and save the environment will all the fuel you'll save.

Mugato: Yes. Especially in emergencies. More so than we need assault rifles.

/not for gun control
//stupid argument


Exactly, it is a stupid argument. As is saying all we need is gun will smaller mags or "less firepower". What does that even mean? Smaller bullets with less powder behind them? We as a country need to take responsibility for the real issue and stop trying to blame inanimate objects. Gun violence over all is down and the only reason we are having these debates 5 times a day is because of mentally ill people getting their hands on weapons (not just guns). There are billions and billions of weapons of every shape and size, why not focus our efforts on the relatively few mentally ill people?


Because that would centrally involve the question of the shameful state of American public mental health care.
 
2013-01-26 06:20:10 AM
Another flag burning story to get our minds off the government stealing us blind.
 
2013-01-26 06:38:20 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."

Yeah, I've never gotten that whole "armed society is a polite society" thing. What, are they saying people with guns are likely to shoot people who are rude?

And this is supposed to make me feel better about other gun owners?


It's more that we as individuals will be more polite and considerate to each other if everyone we interacted with might be armed.
 
2013-01-26 06:38:33 AM

Deep Contact: Another flag burning story to get our minds off the government stealing us blind.


Flag burning is a protected form of free speech.
Putting the muzzle of an AK-47 to someone's head is assault with a deadly weapon, NOT a protected form of free speech.
 
2013-01-26 08:17:01 AM

BronyMedic: Deep Contact: Another flag burning story to get our minds off the government stealing us blind.

Flag burning is a protected form of free speech.
Putting the muzzle of an AK-47 to someone's head is assault with a deadly weapon, NOT a protected form of free speech.


Prove he really did that.
 
2013-01-26 08:34:13 AM

muck4doo: muck4doo: Cupajo: muck4doo: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

How so?

There are plenty of examples, but the most egregious recent example is the Tiahrt Amendment

Link? Nevermind, I'll google it.


What is the Tiahrt Amendment? Yeah, nice try there.


Wow, it sure didn't take you long to find an editorial that supported your pre-determined position on the amendment you hand't even heard of thirty seconds before. Go read the actual amendment. It prevents the ATF from releasing background check info to anyone and it mandates the destruction of that data after 24 hours. If that doesn't make it more difficult to enforce existing gun laws, I don't know what would.
 
2013-01-26 08:50:32 AM

Deep Contact: Prove he really did that.


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2013-01-26 09:02:03 AM
she didn't think the gun was loaded.
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2013-01-26 09:28:43 AM

highwayrun: ArcadianRefugee: Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."

Yeah, I've never gotten that whole "armed society is a polite society" thing. What, are they saying people with guns are likely to shoot people who are rude?

And this is supposed to make me feel better about other gun owners?

It's more that we as individuals will be more polite and considerate to each other if everyone we interacted with might be armed.


Right, but why? Because of the fear that rudeness is now an offense to be shot over. Hence the above.
 
2013-01-26 10:21:33 AM

ArcadianRefugee: highwayrun: ArcadianRefugee: Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."

Yeah, I've never gotten that whole "armed society is a polite society" thing. What, are they saying people with guns are likely to shoot people who are rude?

And this is supposed to make me feel better about other gun owners?

It's more that we as individuals will be more polite and considerate to each other if everyone we interacted with might be armed.

Right, but why? Because of the fear that rudeness is now an offense to be shot over. Hence the above.


And I got chided for suggesting that FARKers would ever champion shooting people over trivial matters. Boy, were they silly.
 
2013-01-26 11:11:47 AM

BronyMedic: ArcadianRefugee: highwayrun: ArcadianRefugee: Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."

Me: "Somalia."

Yeah, I've never gotten that whole "armed society is a polite society" thing. What, are they saying people with guns are likely to shoot people who are rude?

And this is supposed to make me feel better about other gun owners?

It's more that we as individuals will be more polite and considerate to each other if everyone we interacted with might be armed.

Right, but why? Because of the fear that rudeness is now an offense to be shot over. Hence the above.

And I got chided for suggesting that FARKers would ever champion shooting people over trivial matters. Boy, were they silly.


Does it feel good being you?
 
2013-01-26 12:08:37 PM

base935: Interesting that when Congress has a 9% approval rate, there are people that are more than willing to give up the tools to protect themselves.


How damaged does a brain have to be to draw a connection between a low approval rating for Congress and some situation where a branch of the government successfully convinces all military personnel to implement martial law?

And what would be the purpose of declaring martial law in the US? How would that advance any agenda? What citizen, left or right, would go along with it, and what benefit would be derived from enacting it? There would be no support for it from the leaders of industry who drive the economy. The rest of the world would condone it. Nobody would profit from it. Really...why would it ever happen? Let alone how?

Basically, this idea is such a teenage fantasy around hoarding arms and supplies that you'd think anyone with a shred of intelligence would be embarrassed to hint that they believe it.

This whole idea has been mostly replaced by the zombie fantasy. It's a reason to stockpile arms and supplies, and you can always laugh it off as just being for fun.
 
2013-01-26 12:16:37 PM

pedrop357: Electrify: clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47

If the Jews had guns, maybe they could have stopped Hitler. But you know who couldn't stop Hitler?

France.

And they had guns.

/if it took the entire world 6 years to stop Hitler, what makes you think a group of German Jews could?

Might have taken a lot of Nazis with them, which counts for something.


your right, better to just put your head up against that germans pistol and give up. my god this has to go down and one of the dumbest arguments i have ever seen...
 
2013-01-26 12:18:36 PM

NateAsbestos: clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47
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Bet it wouldn't have made a difference.


your right, fighting back has never worked... yet another coward makes a post
 
2013-01-26 12:19:51 PM

Haliburton Cummings: responsible gun owner

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yes the guy about to fall on top of his family in the ditch, he obayed the german laws, no jews are allowed to own a gun.
 
2013-01-26 02:26:19 PM

clane: NateAsbestos: clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47
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Bet it wouldn't have made a difference.

your right, fighting back has never worked... yet another coward makes a post


Who are you planning to fight back against?

You pay taxes to support a trained military that is sworn to defend you against foreign powers.

You live in a country with nearly unparalleled personal freedom, and it's in the best interest of that country and it's economic health to keep those freedoms in place and you happy. But somehow you remained convinced that there's a "THEM" out there, just waiting for you to drop your guard and put down your guns...And then "THEY" will pounce on you.

Get this. I've been around for over 40 years, completely unarmed, and I've never been oppressed yet.
 
2013-01-26 06:24:13 PM

Dimensio: vpb: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

We already do regulate cars.  They have to have things like break lights for instance.  Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.

What specific automobile models are banned by name?


The whole gun/auto comparison is farking retarded.

But to answer your question: anything that isn't street legal, i.e. without bumpers and failing to meet various other requirements. Example: Nissan Skyline Gtr R34
 
2013-01-26 06:44:01 PM

Deep Contact: Another flag burning story to get our minds off the government stealing us blind.


Please give examples of the government "stealing" from the general population.

Taxes don't count.

You pay taxes because you live here and you want nice things like roads, a military, regulatory agencies that make sure the products you buy don't poison you or explode when you plug them in.

If you don't like paying taxes you can leave for another country, but I'm guessing you'll pay taxes there too. That's how governments pay for the things we need.
 
2013-01-26 08:54:36 PM

Dimensio: vpb: The Stealth Hippopotamus: vpb: That's why we need to limit the firepower.speed.


If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!

We already do regulate cars.  They have to have things like break lights for instance.  Cars manufactured after certain dates must have airbags, anti-lock brakes and such.

We need to regulate guns too.

What specific automobile models are banned by name?


Here's a list.

And another list.

And of course this classic.
 
2013-01-26 09:22:24 PM

Cupajo: muck4doo: muck4doo: Cupajo: muck4doo: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

How so?

There are plenty of examples, but the most egregious recent example is the Tiahrt Amendment

Link? Nevermind, I'll google it.


What is the Tiahrt Amendment? Yeah, nice try there.

Wow, it sure didn't take you long to find an editorial that supported your pre-determined position on the amendment you hand't even heard of thirty seconds before. Go read the actual amendment. It prevents the ATF from releasing background check info to anyone and it mandates the destruction of that data after 24 hours. If that doesn't make it more difficult to enforce existing gun laws, I don't know what would.


Try giving a link next time if you want to point me to your view rather than leaving me the option to google it myself.
 
2013-01-26 09:36:37 PM

lostcat: Deep Contact: Another flag burning story to get our minds off the government stealing us blind.

Please give examples of the government "stealing" from the general population.

Taxes don't count.

You pay taxes because you live here and you want nice things like roads, a military, regulatory agencies that make sure the products you buy don't poison you or explode when you plug them in.

If you don't like paying taxes you can leave for another country, but I'm guessing you'll pay taxes there too. That's how governments pay for the things we need.


Obammmma taking a 4 million dollar vacation is stealing my money.
 
2013-01-26 11:06:23 PM

muck4doo: Cupajo: muck4doo: muck4doo: Cupajo: muck4doo: Cupajo: david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?

Yes, he will lose his right to own guns, but he will still be able to easily buy them because the NRA has spent so much money and time making it difficult (or impossible) for police to enforce "existing gun laws".

How so?

There are plenty of examples, but the most egregious recent example is the Tiahrt Amendment

Link? Nevermind, I'll google it.


What is the Tiahrt Amendment? Yeah, nice try there.

Wow, it sure didn't take you long to find an editorial that supported your pre-determined position on the amendment you hand't even heard of thirty seconds before. Go read the actual amendment. It prevents the ATF from releasing background check info to anyone and it mandates the destruction of that data after 24 hours. If that doesn't make it more difficult to enforce existing gun laws, I don't know what would.

Try giving a link next time if you want to point me to your view rather than leaving me the option to google it myself.


It's bullshiat. It has to do with TRACE data. Anytime a firearm serial number is submitted to the ATF to be traced.

The ATF itself said the data was subjective and not all related to the firearms' use in crime. Some areas were submitting any semi-auto 'assault weapons' they encountered to the be traced even if they weren't used in a crime or even suspected of being used.

If people don't like the Tihart amendment, blame the cities that were padding the database, and the assholes misusing that information to push an agenda.
 
2013-01-27 01:47:40 AM
Obammmma taking a 4 million dollar vacation is stealing my money.


Aaaaaaaaaaaand this is why sane people stay the fk away from witless freaks like you.
 
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2013-01-27 11:27:50 AM

lostcat: clane: NateAsbestos: clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47
[thepirata.com image 410x599]

Bet it wouldn't have made a difference.

your right, fighting back has never worked... yet another coward makes a post

Who are you planning to fight back against?

You pay taxes to support a trained military that is sworn to defend you against foreign powers.

You live in a country with nearly unparalleled personal freedom, and it's in the best interest of that country and it's economic health to keep those freedoms in place and you happy. But somehow you remained convinced that there's a "THEM" out there, just waiting for you to drop your guard and put down your guns...And then "THEY" will pounce on you.

Get this. I've been around for over 40 years, completely unarmed, and I've never been oppressed yet.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-28 08:56:41 AM

kpaxoid: GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: tricycleracer: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.

Then what's the farking point?  You may as well have pointed a hammer or an alligator at them.


You would be correct if we can be certain both the mother and daughter knew the weapon was not loaded.


Well now, I don't recall saying any of that.
 
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