SwiftFox: "Kirill Bartashevitch is charged with two counts of terroristic threats for pointing the gun at his daughter and wife.""The daughter said she wasn't scared because she didn't think the gun was loaded.""He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them."So, the question is, is it terroristic to not frighten someone by pointing a gun they know you have just checked the chamber and made sure was empty at them? Either "gray area" or "no".
pedrop357: SwiftFox: "Kirill Bartashevitch is charged with two counts of terroristic threats for pointing the gun at his daughter and wife.""The daughter said she wasn't scared because she didn't think the gun was loaded.""He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them."So, the question is, is it terroristic to not frighten someone by pointing a gun they know you have just checked the chamber and made sure was empty at them? Either "gray area" or "no".At bare minimum, I think it should be gross misdemeanor assault. Let him serve a full year or 18 months or whatever the highest non-felony max sentence is.Guns should only be pointed at dangerous or delicious animals, and the King of England if he's in your face.
pedrop357: muck4doo: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: It's assholes like this that make the two or three dozen responsible gun owners in this country look bad.No, it's the people that say stupid things like you just did that try to make the millions of responsible gun owners look bad. You should stop posting. You are making the first amendment look bad.Don't feed the troll. Has Nina ever contributed anything but name calling and trolling in gun threads?
The Green Intern: muck4doo: The Green Intern: I don't care what the fark the gun wasWe know. It's safe to assume it was an AK. Best not nobody have them ever in the future.Amazing... my point went sailing straight over your head, and yet you still helped me support it.I'll try explaining it point by point for the thinking impaired:He pointed a gun at her. The make and model of gun is in question. A certain subset of people would rather debate what kind of gun it is instead of discussing the situation that the gun revolved around.When I say "I don't care what kind of gun it was." I mean that I do not care if he was pointing an AK, a Glock, an M-16, GAU-8A, or a phased plasma gun in the forty watt range at me. The type of gun is secondary to "This man pointed a gun at his child to intimidate her." I like guns. I have guns. Not to the degree that many of you have... but I'm actually rather thankful for that.Are you people this pedantic about what kind of car that student driver tried to run over her instructor with?
JustGetItRight: Fark It: St. Paul police searched the Bartashevitch home and found ammunition and receipts for two gun purchases. One receipt was for Bill's Gun Shop, dated Jan. 22, 2013. An employee of the gun shop confirmed Bartashevitch sold an AK-47 style gun -- specifically a 7.62X54R -- for $150.Mosin-Nagants are now AK-47 style guns. They have wood and originated in Russia!THANK YOUI absolutely adore how the headline screams Dad points AK-47 at daughter and yet the story states beyond any doubt at all that the weapon was not an AK-47.I'd insert the journalist's guide to firearms here, but it has ceased to be funny. This isn't stupidity, it is a clear effort to create the image of a crisis that doesn't exist.Having said that, dad's a dumbass who should both go to prison and lose the right to own a gun.
Maximer: El_Swino: Hey, internet experts...[www.centerfiresystems.com image 800x159]AK action, chambered for 7.62x54R.You're welcome.Yeah, while AK-replicate weapons chambered in 7.62x54R certainly exist it seems unlikely they'd be going for only $150... particularly post Newtown. So, it seems more likely that it's a Mosin-Nagant.
Ghastly: tricycleracer: Bartashevitch admitted having a physical confrontation with his wife and daughter, and admitted to pointing the gun at both of them. He said the gun was not loaded and that he checked the chamber before pointing it at them.Then what's the farking point? You may as well have pointed a hammer or an alligator at them.I can't help but wonder if the girl had an alligator of her own this whole thing might never have happened. I don't know, I'm just asking the question.
nickerj1: meat0918: CrscntBufS: This is why background checks aren't as effective as they could be. People change and sometimes for the worse.Right, but we should still have them for all firearms purchases. I'd wager until it became news, most Americans probably assumed all firearms required a background check.It's a minor inconvenience that while not perfect, is something that should have been done a long time ago.I hear this a lot.1. Define "background check". Are we talking the same one used by FFL dealers? Or are we talking some other type of background check of varying legitimacy.2. What's the incentive for private sellers to do the background check?3. How will you ensure compliance by private sellers?If you answer to 2 or 3 is "make them felons if they don't do it", then yeaaaah. Not gonna happen.
PC LOAD LETTER: Is this the thread where Dimensio makes bad analogies with cars and doesn't understand that if gun x is allowed and gun y is allowed and they are both similar, then that's what is called a loophole? (checks)YEP!
lostcat: Google image search on: "7.62x54R"Looks "AK-47-style to me. Plus it's semi-automatic.Here's the other gun he bought:Zastava PAP 70 7.62X39Again...looks like an AK-47.Article doesn't say which gun he was brandishing. Based on the fact that the daughter said it was an AK-47, I'm going with the Zastava.Why are the gun people trying so hard to make this into an issue of the "media" tricking the public?
xynix: Depends on if he gets a felony or not ;)
way south: llachlan: Stop pretending that unless we can end gang gun crime we won't put a dent in the problem.Putting an end to the problem is all that matters.After spending a few billion in law enforcement, background checking, and media shilling for an AWB, voters will not be any happier if the next shooter who steals a gun uses one from Feinstein's approved list of "Good" weapons. We already experienced that after Columbine, which was entirely unaffected by magazine limits or feature bans.It really sucks to make sacrifices for a solution and still not get it.As a society the US got along with no firearm regulation for the better part of two centuries.Now that we've spawned all these laws, the problem only seems to be getting worse.At some point you have to ask the politicians if what they are doing really works. Because the question was how best to put a stop to rampage killings, not how best to infringe on everyone's rights."Saving one life" won't make people very happy. Finding the root cause of the problem will./We already know how to stop gangs and drug related crime./The fact that no one in politics wants to listen is not the fault of gun owners.
ArcadianRefugee: Cpl.D: Fellow employee at work: "If more people were armed, it'd be like the old West. An armed society is a polite society."Me: "Somalia."Yeah, I've never gotten that whole "armed society is a polite society" thing. What, are they saying people with guns are likely to shoot people who are rude?And this is supposed to make me feel better about other gun owners?
way south: As a society the US got along with no firearm regulation for the better part of two centuries.Now that we've spawned all these laws, the problem only seems to be getting worse.
The_Sponge: illannoyin: / I own zero guns.// I am not a member of the NRA or any other "gun rights" organization./// I am against any attempt to limit or infringe on all of our constitutional rights not just those guaranteed by the second amendment.Speaking as a gun owner, I really appreciate people like you......you realize that it is an important right even though you don't own one.....and you're totally objective on the matter.
Because People in power are Stupid: She got two B's? She's just starting to fill out.
david_gaithersburg: Under existing gun laws you can be sure that this guy will loose his right to own guns. So why punish the rest of society that has done nothing wrong?
base935: Interesting that when Congress has a 9% approval rate, there are people that are more than willing to give up the tools to protect themselves.
BGates: The second firearm they mention is the same caliber as an AK, and probably looks like an AK. But that isn't the firearm that was pointed at the girl.
Yogimus: I will support any and all morons and idiots who share a political view with me.
muck4doo: CADMonkey79: hamdinger: KidneyStone: [www.politifake.org image 640x939]Haw haw, I sure am smarter than them thar jurnalists. Them "edjoocated" types with all them fancy queer words and their schoolin' and all them books.. shoot, I heard most of 'em even have all the teeth they was born with. Can you imagine?Is that honestly the first time you have seen that pic or do you just use the same lame joke every time?It's gun grabber humor. Hardy-har-har.
Pert: Did anybody else notice that the receipts for guns were both dated AFTER the alleged incident?
Coco LaFemme: This here is a fine example of someone who is too stupid to own a firearm. Bought the gun because he thought the "gub'mint" was going to ban it, and pointed it in his daughter's face for bringing home two B's instead of straight A's.Take THAT man's gun and beat him upside the head with it......then don't give it back.
Blues_X: You can get an AK for just $150?
muck4doo: BronyMedic: The Stealth Hippopotamus: If no car can go over 20 miles an hour than there would be fewer fatalities. I mean do you really need to go 40 miles an hour?! And while we are at it lets limit the gear ratios on bicycles! We really need to limit those as well. If it will just save one life how could we not?!To be fair, it's a lot harder to get an aortic sheer at 20 miles an hour. Or turn a pedestrian into a buff of pink mist.A donkey and cart can do the same job as a truck.
clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47[thepirata.com image 410x599]
zabadu: [imageshack.us image 678x800]
clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47
Electrify: clane: bet he wished he had an AK-47If the Jews had guns, maybe they could have stopped Hitler. But you know who couldn't stop Hitler?France.And they had guns./if it took the entire world 6 years to stop Hitler, what makes you think a group of German Jews could?
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