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(Washington Post)   Republicans in Virginia are moving forward with their plans to create a new State currency so that when the Federal Reserve crashes, they're ready   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 52
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2013-01-25 01:10:13 PM  
8 votes:
Dear Republicans:

So long as you keep incredibly stupid shiat like this up, please stop getting outraged when the rest of us tell you that you don't understand how money works. Because clearly, you don't. And this is Exhibit #1 as to why you shouldn't be allowed control of a $10 piggybank, much less a state or national economy.

Thanks,

Those of us who DO understand how money works
2013-01-25 01:43:33 PM  
5 votes:
No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
2013-01-25 04:24:18 PM  
3 votes:

DarkVader: I have WAY too many friends who are prepping for the whole "shiat hits the fan" concept, as if the entire country is about to imminently dissolve into a state of complete anarchy approaching Somalia.They're stockpiling food, weapons, and ammunition. I've been ridiculed because I don't have thousands of rounds of ammo for dozens of guns handy (and I'm not anti-gun, and I just might have some high-capacity magazines for the guns I might happen to already own) (or might not, not actually saying). Sure, shooting is fun, and it's more fun if you don't have to constantly reload.


I'm "prepping" by learning to grow my own food, and do woodworking & metalworking with hand tools. If the shiat never hits the fan, at least I have some enjoyable hobbies & fresh veggies, and not a pile of crappy food I don't want to eat & a bunch of guns and ammo I'll never use.
2013-01-25 03:34:37 PM  
3 votes:
What the proposed Virginia money might look like:
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2013-01-25 03:33:19 PM  
3 votes:
The "Federal Reserve" - a privately owned bank celebrating 100 years of printing "money" out of thin air and "loaning" it to the United States Government at interest, said interest being collected from The People, under duress, in the form of Taxes.

It's nice work - if you can get it.


/Yes, America
//There is an Amendment that should be repealed
///And no, it isn't the Second Amendment
2013-01-25 04:52:57 PM  
2 votes:
If Derp was a currency we could buy a lot of stuff with this thread.
2013-01-25 04:41:25 PM  
2 votes:
Black president = imminent collapse. Study it out.

This is a coping mechanism, obviously things have to be collapsing, to match up with the right's current mental state.

The entire right wing of America needs antipsychotics and a rubber room. Instead we'll just keep letting them bully the rest of us with their stupidity.
2013-01-25 04:20:46 PM  
2 votes:

HartRend: The point is, the dollar has been so whored out, that it's not worth what it was, hence the absence of gold backing.
So literally, you don't have to tie it to the gold, because gold is still worth money it still floats like any other product in the free market.
So not only does it not have to be officially tied, but it is an incredibly indicator by itself.

If you look at the price, shiat has been going downhill for a while.


O RLY?

Actually, inflation is flat right now:

http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/historical-inflation- ra tes/

And your implied devaluation is an absurdity. The dollar is currently about $1.35:1 against the Euro. It was that same rate in 2004:

http://www.ecb.int/stats/exchange/eurofxref/html/eurofxref-graph-usd .e n.html

It has similar performance against other currencies, too, including the yen, pound sterling, and Canadian dollar, despite some pretty different economic conditions in each of those countries:

http://www.x-rates.com/graph/?from=JPY&to=USD&amount=1
http://www.x-rates.com/graph/?from=GBP&to=USD&amount=1
http://www.x-rates.com/graph/?from=CAD&to=USD&amount=1

And before you say but...but...but...GOLD, allow me to retort: gold is a *commodity*, not a *currency*. As such, it is subject to wide prices swings, primarily driven by speculation. And yes, gold is way up right now. Why? Because speculators are making a KILLING selling it to paranoid types. They're not keeping it themselves. No...they're selling it hand over fist to people who stash bars of it under their beds, and then those speculators take the real currency and go invest it and make even more money. Hence, the finite supply dwindles and the price goes up. Buy into that if you want, but it's foolish, IMHO.

Proof? How about another commodity to index against? A big one, like...oil? Or gas prices?

Huh. Dig a little bit and it turns out that gas prices are *lower* now than they have been in awhile. Like, back to that "QE3" thing all your types were howling about awhile ago. Remember that? How it was going to cause $5/gallon gas by New Year's?

What  actually happened? Well...like anyone with actual economics training predicted, the national average peaked at $3.12/gallon in August 2012 due to a storm. Then QE3 passed in early September. Today, the national average is $3.31. Yes, it will go up again for the summer, but they *always* go up for the summer:

http://newsroom.aaa.com/2013/01/gas-prices-aaa%E2%80%99s-fuel-gauge- re port-january-22-2013/

In short: you're full of shiat. On every. single. point. 

And you can't read.
2013-01-25 03:46:01 PM  
2 votes:

impaler: HartRend: impaler: HartRend: Well considering what they have done to your dollar,

Kept its value fluctuations at a stable low rate of inflation with very little variance? The horror. The markets hate predictability.

Next are you going to tell us to go to shadowstats to study it out?

You clearly don't have any money.

In my mattress? Nope. If you want your net-worth backed by shiny metal, no one is stopping you. However, there are far better investments. Right now, Conoco-Philips dividends are easily beating inflation rates.


The fact that you are justifying your investment by "easily beating inflation rates" tells me that you are already digging out of a hole.
Why does my government get to literally take buying power out of my pocket because they want to blow it on bullshiat like pointless wars and people who don't want to work?
2013-01-25 03:26:50 PM  
2 votes:

theorellior: HartRend: The federal reserve violates the constitution.
The constitutions guarantees the right of congress to print and coin money / set standards and weights.
Congress has given up their right to the Fed, and thus the taxation without representation.

You run with that, Sparky. I'll knock on the airlock of your bunker when it's safe to come out.


Well considering what they have done to your dollar, you may want to reconsider your position.

Go check out gold prices, see what the real buying power of your dollar is.

If you are right, then we both get to have a good time.

If I am right, only I get to have a good time.
2013-01-25 02:40:22 PM  
2 votes:
Constitutionally, it can only be gold or silver. If they want to do that, go ahead.
2013-01-25 02:06:07 PM  
2 votes:
republicans are farking nuts. seriously farking nuts. they're all goddamned SHTF preppers now. guns. gold. what's next? shelters?
2013-01-25 08:24:51 PM  
1 votes:

The Larch: HartRend: Considering the number of states attempting to succeed from the USsA right now, I don't think I'm the only one with this opinion of the Fed/SCOTUS

Well, yes. I'm pretty sure all 50 states are trying to succeed.

// I think the word you were looking for was "secede".
/// And, zero is a number.
//// All zero states trying to secede right now proves your point.


i172.photobucket.com
2013-01-25 06:30:06 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: Considering the number of states attempting to succeed from the USsA right now, I don't think I'm the only one with this opinion of the Fed/SCOTUS


Well, yes. I'm pretty sure all 50 states are trying to succeed.

// I think the word you were looking for was "secede".
/// And, zero is a number.
//// All zero states trying to secede right now proves your point.
2013-01-25 06:20:00 PM  
1 votes:
www.pennylicious.com
2013-01-25 05:37:01 PM  
1 votes:

Stinkyy: whistleridge: Dear Republicans:

So long as you keep incredibly stupid shiat like this up, please stop getting outraged when the rest of us tell you that you don't understand how money works. Because clearly, you don't. And this is Exhibit #1 as to why you shouldn't be allowed control of a $10 piggybank, much less a state or national economy.

Thanks,

Those of us who DO understand how money works

[media.tumblr.com image 250x257]

I see. The Ds forgot that thing they exploded that also starts with D.


static6.businessinsider.com
2013-01-25 04:59:51 PM  
1 votes:

theorellior: You want bubbles?


www.popcrunch.com
2013-01-25 04:54:59 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: doyner: HartRend: So because 3 people interpreted it this way

WAT?

SCOTUS = Very small population (9 or so)

America = Not so small population

Could it be that these few individuals may have a personal interest in ensuring the existence of the Federal Reserve?

Could it be that these individuals are willing to sell out the rest of us for an unfathomable amount of money?

Could it be that your government doesn't give two shiats about you?

What scale is harder to tip, 300 + Million Americans, or 9 assholes who think they know it all?


Wait! You mean you aren't trolling? You...you actually believe this?
2013-01-25 04:54:54 PM  
1 votes:

theorellior: HartRend: Go check out gold prices, see what the real buying power of your dollar is.

Oh, goody, you are a gold bug!

Please, then, tell me how we're supposed to run a $70 trillion world economy on $9 trillion worth of gold?


By deflating currency until the gold bugs become so relatively wealthy they become hereditary monarchs. duh.

Libertarianism = Pining for a return of the Hapsburg Empire.
2013-01-25 04:50:00 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: HartRend: CheekyMonkey: HartRend: grimlock1972: violation of the constitution plain and simple. Repubs if you don't want the federal reserve system to crash then quit putting party ahead of country and do what needs to be done.

It has already crashed. We are still propping it up.

It is not an IF, it is a when.

Yes, and the roof of my house fell down already, but the walls are still propping it up.

Do you see any new jobs? How are things where you are.
Where I am at, things are shiatty. People are homeless living on the street begging for change.

Anybody who can look out their window, and say to themselves, damn things are better today than they were yesterday, is probably blind.

Maybe you could just take your ass to ANY other country on the planet, that doesn't tolerate religion, think you would be happier there?


It's bad news when you start talking to yourself...
2013-01-25 04:47:11 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: nekulor: HartRend: nekulor: HartRend: nekulor: HartRend: doyner: HartRend: So because 3 people interpreted it this way

WAT?

SCOTUS = Very small population (9 or so)

America = Not so small population

Could it be that these few individuals may have a personal interest in ensuring the existence of the Federal Reserve?

Could it be that these individuals are willing to sell out the rest of us for an unfathomable amount of money?

Could it be that your government doesn't give two shiats about you?

What scale is harder to tip, 300 + Million Americans, or 9 assholes who think they know it all?

You sound like my Bible-thumping, Alex Jones-loving cousin. He's a goddamn idiot.

Yea fark those bible people, they're always up to no good!

The God-botherer crowd, that thinks the world is 6000 years old and evolution is a lie? Yea, they are. They're Luddites, and civilization would be better off without them.

Maybe we should march them in to chambers, that we fill with gas, and eliminate them from the gene pool.

I doubt anybody has tried that before.

Oh boy, somebody Godwinned the thread. You know, for the entertainment value alone, I'm going to argue, yes. Yes we should. They're holding us back as a species.

You couldn't kill anybody, I can tell from here.
The first time you squeeze the button, with a face on the other side of your front sight post, you puke a little in your mouth.

Go fight in the middle east, and then come back and tell me you want to murder for pleasure.


I'm sure I could, I am quite familiar with rifle and shotgun, but I wouldn't do it willingly.

I was making a point: Nazi arguments are retarded because no one would resort to that in any reasonable circumstance. You're building strawmen in this thread faster than anyone can tear them down, and you're doing it because you suck at arguing. Your points aren't real points, they're vague conspiracy theories that are only supported by a fringe group of people, which is convenient, because you can argue the horrible drive-by lamestream media isn't taking your concerns seriously because fraternities Illuminati contrails 9/11 was an inside job.
2013-01-25 04:39:25 PM  
1 votes:
I thought all the wackos had joined the Libertarian Party.
2013-01-25 04:37:06 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: nekulor: HartRend: nekulor: HartRend: doyner: HartRend: So because 3 people interpreted it this way

WAT?

SCOTUS = Very small population (9 or so)

America = Not so small population

Could it be that these few individuals may have a personal interest in ensuring the existence of the Federal Reserve?

Could it be that these individuals are willing to sell out the rest of us for an unfathomable amount of money?

Could it be that your government doesn't give two shiats about you?

What scale is harder to tip, 300 + Million Americans, or 9 assholes who think they know it all?

You sound like my Bible-thumping, Alex Jones-loving cousin. He's a goddamn idiot.

Yea fark those bible people, they're always up to no good!

The God-botherer crowd, that thinks the world is 6000 years old and evolution is a lie? Yea, they are. They're Luddites, and civilization would be better off without them.

Maybe we should march them in to chambers, that we fill with gas, and eliminate them from the gene pool.

I doubt anybody has tried that before.


Oh boy, somebody Godwinned the thread. You know, for the entertainment value alone, I'm going to argue, yes. Yes we should. They're holding us back as a species.
2013-01-25 04:32:27 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: nekulor: HartRend: doyner: HartRend: So because 3 people interpreted it this way

WAT?

SCOTUS = Very small population (9 or so)

America = Not so small population

Could it be that these few individuals may have a personal interest in ensuring the existence of the Federal Reserve?

Could it be that these individuals are willing to sell out the rest of us for an unfathomable amount of money?

Could it be that your government doesn't give two shiats about you?

What scale is harder to tip, 300 + Million Americans, or 9 assholes who think they know it all?

You sound like my Bible-thumping, Alex Jones-loving cousin. He's a goddamn idiot.

Yea fark those bible people, they're always up to no good!


The God-botherer crowd, that thinks the world is 6000 years old and evolution is a lie? Yea, they are. They're Luddites, and civilization would be better off without them.
2013-01-25 04:31:23 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: grimlock1972: violation of the constitution plain and simple. Repubs if you don't want the federal reserve system to crash then quit putting party ahead of country and do what needs to be done.

It has already crashed. We are still propping it up.

It is not an IF, it is a when.


Yes, and the roof of my house fell down already, but the walls are still propping it up.
2013-01-25 04:28:31 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: HartRend: Matthew Keene: HartRend: [theeconomiccollapseblog.com image 850x390]

John Wilkes Booth killed JFK for printing those.

I know, but the sheeple have no clue.

Oswald...


Oswald killed Warren G. Harding in San Francisco in 1923. Get your shiat straight.
2013-01-25 04:27:56 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: doyner: HartRend: So because 3 people interpreted it this way

WAT?

SCOTUS = Very small population (9 or so)

America = Not so small population

Could it be that these few individuals may have a personal interest in ensuring the existence of the Federal Reserve?

Could it be that these individuals are willing to sell out the rest of us for an unfathomable amount of money?

Could it be that your government doesn't give two shiats about you?

What scale is harder to tip, 300 + Million Americans, or 9 assholes who think they know it all?


You sound like my Bible-thumping, Alex Jones-loving cousin. He's a goddamn idiot.
2013-01-25 04:26:59 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: fark those idiots who drank the cool aid, they deserved what they got for not thinking for themselves, same as you.
fark your emo/homo spelling.


See, it was all nice until you had to say 'homo'.

I mean yeah, we all hate emo -- this isn't Reddit. We're all in our thirties or older, posting from work (where Reddit is blocked). The only emo we want is the emo lawn (because it cuts itself).

But 'homo'? In the Twenty-First Century? This isn't X-Box chat.

Let's stick to the topic: how you are afraid of judges and that the rise food stamp recipients during a major recession is a sign of the apocalypse.
2013-01-25 04:14:03 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: So because 3 people interpreted it this way, we should all just take it in the ass?
Remind me not to drink any of your cool aid.


3? Try 9. On multiple occasions.

And not just any 9, either. No, it was  the specific 9 experts who are carefully vetted and chosen for their expertise and ability to decide such matters on behalf of our entire society

So yes: I'll take the word of those 9 before an obviously ignorant troll any day.

Also: it 'Kool Aid' you ass. Learn to spell. Especially when referencing an occasion when one of your type decided Jesus wanted him to murder a couple hundred people.
2013-01-25 04:07:26 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: You are in the quadrillions my friend.


Right. Sure we are. Quadrillions.
2013-01-25 04:05:37 PM  
1 votes:

doyner: HartRend: So because 3 people interpreted it this way

WAT?


Today I've switch from blocking the crazies to setting them as red-4 favorites. This allows me to track the derp when a thread starts okay then goes off the rails. I added a certain user base on this thread, as well others from a different thread. Suddenly this thread had a lot of red stains.

Now I won't wonder why a thread seems fine then suddenly has a lot of people grousing about a thin head, for example.

In summary: seriously, yo. The H got knocked out of the 'WHAT' because the whargarbl hit it as if it were uprights in the end zone.
2013-01-25 04:05:05 PM  
1 votes:

theorellior: HartRend: Go check out gold prices, see what the real buying power of your dollar is.

Oh, goody, you are a gold bug!

Please, then, tell me how we're supposed to run a $70 trillion world economy on $9 trillion worth of gold?


I'm not a gold bug, necessarily, i'm just against a very small group of people, farking a very large group of people.

Oh, and the equation is 9/70, that is how you back currency with gold.

And the world economy, including deriviatives , is way WAY WAYYYYYYYYY BIGGER than 70 tril.

You are in the quadrillions my friend.

The point is, the dollar has been so whored out, that it's not worth what it was, hence the absence of gold backing.
So literally, you don't have to tie it to the gold, because gold is still worth money it still floats like any other product in the free market.
So not only does it not have to be officially tied, but it is an incredibly indicator by itself.

If you look at the price, shiat has been going downhill for a while.
2013-01-25 04:04:28 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: [www.trivisonno.com image 850x485]


You should gird yourself for that to increase, and it has nothing to do with laziness.

Some people say we have a rapidly aging demographic of elderly people that don't have proper retirement money. Some people.
2013-01-25 03:51:36 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: The fact that you are justifying your investment by "easily beating inflation rates" tells me that you are already digging out of a hole.
Why does my government get to literally take buying power out of my pocket because they want to blow it on bullshiat like pointless wars and people who don't want to work?


Instead, we should go to a commodity backed currency that could be manipulated by foreign powers!

Why does my government get to literally take buying power out of my pocket

Without them, you wouldn't have any buying power in your pocket.

people who don't want to work?

Point to the part of the budget that goes to people that don't want to work.
2013-01-25 03:50:19 PM  
1 votes:
violation of the constitution plain and simple. Repubs if you don't want the federal reserve system to crash then quit putting party ahead of country and do what needs to be done.
2013-01-25 03:46:30 PM  
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: A whole lot of but hurt in this thread.

I need to look at buying a house on the other side of the river.


I really hope they don't have internet access there.
2013-01-25 03:44:12 PM  
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: A whole lot of but hurt in this thread.

I need to look at buying a house on the other side of the river.


They might not take your money.
2013-01-25 03:44:05 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: impaler: HartRend: Well considering what they have done to your dollar,

Kept its value fluctuations at a stable low rate of inflation with very little variance? The horror. The markets hate predictability.

Next are you going to tell us to go to shadowstats to study it out?

You clearly don't have any money.


In my mattress? Nope. If you want your net-worth backed by shiny metal, no one is stopping you. However, there are far better investments. Right now, Conoco-Philips dividends are easily beating inflation rates.
2013-01-25 03:37:32 PM  
1 votes:
Do you even know how to read or conduct basic research? Or are your abilities limited to regurgitating whatever crap email talking points Crazy Uncle Larry forwards you from whatever stormfront thread du jour it is that he's reading?

HartRend: Just_a_Bear: Meh, it only violates the Constitution, no big deal.

The federal reserve violates the constitution.


Not according to the Supreme Court:


U.S. v. Rickman, 638 F.2d 182, C.A.Kan. 1980:

Federal Reserve Notes in which the defendant, charged with failure to file federal income tax returns, was paid were lawful money within the meaning of the United States Constitution.


U.S. v. Wangrund, 533 F.2d 495; C.A.Cal. 1976

The statute establishing Federal Reserve Notes as legal tender for all debts, public and private, including taxes, is within the constitutional authority of Congress; thus the defendant could not overturn his conviction on two counts of wilful failure to make an income tax return on the theory that he did not receive money since checks he received as compensation for his services could be cashed only for Federal Reserve Notes which were not redeemable in specie.


Nixon v. Individual Head of St. Joseph Mortgage Company, 615 F.Supp. 890, affirmed 787 F.2d 596. D.C.Ind. 1985.

Federal Reserve notes are legal tender.


Ginter v. Southern
, 611 F.2d 1226, certiorari denied 100 S.Ct 2946, 446 US 967, 64 L.E.d.2d 827. C.A.Ark. 1979.

Tax protestor's claims concerning the constitutionality of the Federal Reserve System, Internal Revenue Code and establishment of tax court were so frivolous as not to require discussion and detail. USCA Const. Amends. 5, 13;


U.S. v. Schmitz
, 542 F.2d 782 certiorari denied 97 S.Ct. 1134, 429 US 1105, 51 L.Ed.2d 556. C.A.Cal. 1976.

Federal Reserve Notes constitute legal tender and are taxable dollars.


Milam v. U.S., 524 F.2d 629. C.A.Cal. 1974.

The statute which delegates to the Federal Reserve System the power to issue circulating notes for money borrowed and the power to define the quality and force of those notes as currency is valid ... Although golden eagles, double eagles, and silver dollars were lovely to look at and delightful to hold, the holder of a $50 Federal Reserve Bank Note, although entitled to redeem his note, was not entitled to do so in precious metal.

The constitutions guarantees the right of congress to print and coin money / set standards and weights.

Yes it does. Article I, Section 10, as cited before in this thread.

Congress has given up their right to the Fed, and thus the taxation without representation.

Actually, the Fed is still entirely regulated by Congress, via a whole body of applicable laws and regulations. That Paulites are too stupid to look these up doesn't mean they're right.
2013-01-25 03:37:22 PM  
1 votes:

doyner: HartRend: doyner: HartRend: doyner: HartRend: Just_a_Bear: Meh, it only violates the Constitution, no big deal.

The federal reserve violates the constitution.
The constitutions guarantees the right of congress to print and coin money / set standards and weights.
Congress has given up their right to the Fed, and thus the taxation without representation.

[t2.gstatic.com image 259x194]

Have you even read the constitution? Clearly not...

Congress has the right to raise armies and maintain the Navy.  When Electric Boat fixes one of our submarines does that mean they've given up their right?

How does that even parallel with this? I don't understand the analogy you are trying to draw.

The parallel is having a private entity act under the authority of Congress.


The private entity in your case has oversight, the navy, not in the Fed's case. The Federal Reserve has never been audited in it's 100+ years of existence.
2013-01-25 03:33:37 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: Well considering what they have done to your dollar,


Kept its value fluctuations at a stable low rate of inflation with very little variance? The horror. The markets hate predictability.

Next are you going to tell us to go to shadowstats to study it out?
2013-01-25 03:30:38 PM  
1 votes:
Oh great. Another RonPaul jockstrap to suck all the oxygen out of the air in here.

/bails out
2013-01-25 03:28:45 PM  
1 votes:

impaler: HartRend: For anybody who thinks negatively of the Virginian Republicans you may want to google a few subjects:

The Fractional Reserve Banking System

Derp.

Did you know Fractional Reserve Banking was invented by GOLD lenders? Has shiatall to do with fiat.


Unless you take the gold out of the equation.
2013-01-25 03:27:24 PM  
1 votes:

HartRend: For anybody who thinks negatively of the Virginian Republicans you may want to google a few subjects:

The Fractional Reserve Banking System


Derp.

Did you know Fractional Reserve Banking was invented by GOLD lenders? Has shiatall to do with fiat.
2013-01-25 03:21:55 PM  
1 votes:

Arkanaut: I gotta admire their moxie. Somehow, the currency backed by the full faith and credit

ability of the federal government of the United States to forcefully extract taxes from its subjects at the point of a gun won't be enough, but Virginia -- surely the greatest of the 50 states -- will be trustworthy in the eyes of the world.


/Edited for accuracy
2013-01-25 03:20:53 PM  
1 votes:
For anybody who thinks negatively of the Virginian Republicans you may want to google a few subjects:

The Fractional Reserve Banking System

The Derivative Bubble

The Mortgage crisis.

Mortgage rubber stamping.

The fall of the Roman Empire

These will get you started...
2013-01-25 03:15:01 PM  
1 votes:
I have WAY too many friends who are prepping for the whole "shiat hits the fan" concept, as if the entire country is about to imminently dissolve into a state of complete anarchy approaching Somalia.

They're stockpiling food, weapons, and ammunition. I've been ridiculed because I don't have thousands of rounds of ammo for dozens of guns handy (and I'm not anti-gun, and I just might have some high-capacity magazines for the guns I might happen to already own) (or might not, not actually saying). Sure, shooting is fun, and it's more fun if you don't have to constantly reload.

But folks, society isn't going to collapse tomorrow, or the next day, or next year. It's not likely to even happen in my lifetime. There's no imminent event to prepare for, other than the next hurricane or flood. And unless you're in New Orleans or Detroit, that won't require you to have high-cap mags, bullet-resistant clothing, or months of food stored.

And folks, socialized medicine is a GOOD thing, I WISH that was what the Affordable Care Act actually is, but it's at least a step in the right direction. Society is LESS likely to collapse if people who can't afford today's exorbitant cost of health care don't have to resort to crime. And society is certainly less likely to collapse if we make sure that the least fortunate among us are able to at least have adequate food and housing. It would help if we could find a way to move incomes in a more equal direction, because if we were to equally divide the US GDP today, every person in the county would make nearly $50,000 per year. Enough to live on? Have a comfortable life? Yeah, I thought so.
2013-01-25 03:06:53 PM  
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Just_a_Bear: Meh, it only violates the Constitution, no big deal.


The federal reserve violates the constitution.
The constitutions guarantees the right of congress to print and coin money / set standards and weights.
Congress has given up their right to the Fed, and thus the taxation without representation.
2013-01-25 02:44:06 PM  
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I would give every penny I own for required psychological examinations as a prerequisite for holding public office.
2013-01-25 02:41:02 PM  
1 votes:
Since it's by that party the money is being backed by rape
2013-01-25 02:02:36 PM  
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Virginia: Where radar detectors are illegal but DON"T YOU DARE TOUCH MAH GUNS 0BONGO!
2013-01-25 01:17:48 PM  
1 votes:
Virginia has gone full Arizona

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