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(BGR)   You have 1 week left to "jailbreak" your under-contract smartphone, or any tablet, before it becomes a felony under the DCMA   (bgr.com) divider line 228
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2013-01-26 09:20:41 PM  
I'll take another stab and say that so much of this seems like self induced crisis..If all of these
problems are out there.You might want to ask yourself, "Do I really need this stupid thing?",
"Is all of this hassle and time and money put into this stupid device really worth it?"
 
2013-01-26 11:32:12 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: I'll take another stab and say that so much of this seems like self induced crisis..If all of these
problems are out there.You might want to ask yourself, "Do I really need this stupid thing?",
"Is all of this hassle and time and money put into this stupid device really worth it?"


It's a passion for some people. It never makes sense to people who don't appreciate it.
 
2013-01-27 12:41:58 AM  
Protection schemes can be broken for the purposes of maintenance. It's right in the DMCA.
 
2013-01-27 02:00:29 AM  
The flip of this is that the software the companies put ON the phones interferes with their functionality and thus violate FCC.
 
2013-01-27 03:11:44 AM  

prjindigo: The flip of this is that the software the companies put ON the phones interferes with their functionality and thus violate FCC.


I can't farking stand auto racing, but can't uninstall Sprint's NASCAR app. Meanwhile I'm out of space on the device and can't even update any of my others.
 
2013-01-27 03:20:04 AM  

chewd: MadHatter500: So no, we don't treat corporations the same, and honestly, I hope we never get treated like that.

Except we dont do that anymore... now we just give them a bunch of free money & send them on their way.


Also the corporation voluntarily goes into chapter 7 at the behest of its owners, implying slavery and possibly cannibalism.

But I believe the point was that corporations are not people, and shouldn't be getting all the privileges of people.
 
2013-01-27 03:27:28 AM  

TheBigJerk: chewd: MadHatter500: So no, we don't treat corporations the same, and honestly, I hope we never get treated like that.

Except we dont do that anymore... now we just give them a bunch of free money & send them on their way.

Also the corporation voluntarily goes into chapter 7 at the behest of its owners, implying slavery and possibly cannibalism.

But I believe the point was that corporations are not people, and shouldn't be getting all the privileges of people.


At the very least when a corporation breaks laws, it should be punished like a person would. Not a fine that amounts to little more than a business tax. The heads of the organization should do jail time.
 
2013-01-27 04:33:42 AM  
SUBTARD
 
2013-01-27 09:05:30 AM  

traylor: thamike: [news.cnet.com image 287x296]

I'm perfectly happy with my DumbPhone.

Me loves dumbphones myself too, bat that's not a dumbphone. THIS is a dumbphone.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 138x300]

/happily using one of these for calling people and receiving calls for the last 11 years
/oh and SMS stuff


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Here I am with something I found in my parents-in-law's grandkid toybox...My FIL's 1995ish cell phone, no longer in use, that the kids play with.
 
2013-01-27 09:35:52 AM  

Ow My Balls: Here I am with something I found in my parents-in-law's grandkid toybox...My FIL's 1995ish cell phone, no longer in use, that the kids play with.


As long as they don't taunt it, the kids should be fine.
 
2013-01-27 10:10:38 AM  

Ow My Balls: Here I am with something I found in my parents-in-law's grandkid toybox...My FIL's 1995ish cell phone, no longer in use, that the kids play with.


Nice! Here's a file photo of my wife's still-in-use 2001 Motorola 120e. I wonder if it's the oldest cell phone in use among Farkers reading this thread?

She has refused to update, saying it works fine, which it does. When my 2005ish Razr died last year and I bought a smart phone she was unimpressed at first, but has warmed to it and is willing to get an updated phone now. I have poor near vision, though, so am considering a Nexus 4 (4.7" screen), and passing my current Motorola Defy XT (3.5" screen) to her, since she is near sighted.
 
2013-01-27 10:12:23 AM  

Stone Meadow: Nice! Here's a file photo of my wife's still-in-use 2001 Motorola 120e.


www.wirefly.com

/now with photo goodness
 
2013-01-27 11:32:00 AM  

Thrakkorzog: I have a dumb phone now and have to replace it. I have some cash for an up front purchase and need the per/month to be low. I just need voice calls around 100 min and texting. Web is optional but I want the phone to be able to hook up and find free WIFI when available for the web.

Suggestions...?


I just got this phone with the 1200 minutes and year of service included for $114 (shipping included). The phone was pretty much free.
I get AT&T coverage and it's great. Phone has WiFi, bluetooth, and a whole passel of functions including music and etc. It's as smart as you can get without an actual smart phone and/or breaking the bank. Also, when I activated the phone, I included a tracfone coupon code that got me 250 more minutes. Also, the phone includes triple minutes for life; buy 400, get 1200, etc.
Texts are sent from a qwerty keypad and cost .3 of a minute to send and receive. Touch screen, also.
Awesome deal.
 
2013-01-27 11:32:54 AM  
Whoops. Link.
 
2013-01-27 11:36:06 AM  

nickerj1: What's funny about that is the US wireless carriers' argument was: "Here's out shiatty business model that has no considerations for multi jurisdictions or international trade, people are taking advantage of it, therefore the people taking advantage of it should be outlaws".


That's why people are dropping their contract big-carrier phones for prepaids like tracfone.
My tracfone dials 100 countries for the same rate as domestic or local calls and my initial cost is about 2.9 cents per minute.
The irony is that these prepaids use the big carriers' networks.
 
2013-01-27 11:42:12 AM  

Stone Meadow: Thrakkorzog: I have a dumb phone now and have to replace it. I have some cash for an up front purchase and need the per/month to be low. I just need voice calls around 100 min and texting. Web is optional but I want the phone to be able to hook up and find free WIFI when available for the web.

Suggestions...?

Nexus 4...$30/mo for unlimited text and data, plus 100 minutes talk per month. Fantastic phone with largish screen. $300 for the phone.


Tracfone LG840G: $9.50/mo for 116 minutes per month, texts cost .3 of a cent to send and receive, plus you can add more minutes at any time. Phone effectively free.
 
2013-01-27 11:59:59 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Stone Meadow: Thrakkorzog: Suggestions...?

Nexus 4...$30/mo for unlimited text and data, plus 100 minutes talk per month. Fantastic phone with largish screen. $300 for the phone.

Tracfone LG840G: $9.50/mo for 116 minutes per month, texts cost .3 of a cent to send and receive, plus you can add more minutes at any time. Phone effectively free.


Yeah, I was just reading the Amazon page you linked to. Very interesting, but I have a few questions...

Can you surf the web with this phone? The implied answer is yes (browser shown on screen shot...3G), but I don't see it explicitly mentioned.

How long do the minutes last? If I buy a 400 minute card that gets triple minutes, but only use 500 minutes before the card expires after one or two months, it's not such a good deal. Or does that "one year service" mean one has a year to use the minutes?

TIA
 
2013-01-27 01:25:31 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Whoops. Link.


ok - thanks
 
2013-01-27 01:43:54 PM  
I bought a phone recenlty. I bought it outright, I don't have a contract, just month to month service. I can't imagine why anyone else would have any say over whether I "jailbreak" it.

So far, I've seen no reason to do so. But there is some kind of advertising that shows up on it about once a day which bugs me, and I plan to figure out how to turn that off. If I have to jailbreak it to do so, I will.

I also have a Nexus 7 tablet. I paid for it, it's mine. There is no contract of any kind, no ongoing bill. I can't imagine why it would be illegal to unlock it.
 
2013-01-27 01:47:51 PM  
I just watched a 12-minute Youtube video review of the Tracfone LG840G, which was very positive. The only drawbacks he mentioned are:

1. No motion sensor, so aps don't rotate from portrait or landscape or reverse...they're fixed.

2. The installed browser used keypad entry instead of qwerty for search box entry (qwerty for url entry), so he installed OperaMini to fix that.

3. Doesn't play videos (not an issue for me).

That's it. Other than that he thought it was a great phone. And for as little as $10 a month including the phone itself, as well as talk, data and text using WiFi where available (work and home for me), what's not to like about it?
 
2013-01-27 01:50:37 PM  

JuggleGeek: I bought a phone recenlty. I bought it outright, I don't have a contract, just month to month service. I can't imagine why anyone else would have any say over whether I "jailbreak" it.

So far, I've seen no reason to do so. But there is some kind of advertising that shows up on it about once a day which bugs me, and I plan to figure out how to turn that off. If I have to jailbreak it to do so, I will.

I also have a Nexus 7 tablet. I paid for it, it's mine. There is no contract of any kind, no ongoing bill. I can't imagine why it would be illegal to unlock it.


If I read TFA correctly, the new law applies only to phones you bought under subsidized contract, WHILE THEY'RE STILL UNDER CONTRACT. It doesn't apply to phones you buy outright or once the phone is off contract. You are free to do with those whatever you wish.
 
2013-01-27 04:36:56 PM  

twat_waffle: Android doesn't have a walled garden. Its garden is fenced in with a gate. Because of that, it is impossible to jailbreak an Android phone. Since there is no walled garden to break out of, and since the only thing you are doing is gaining root access, the procedure for an Android device is called "rooting." Because there is no functional difference between jailbreaking and obtaining root level access to an iPhone, the procedure for an iPhone is called jailbreaking.


Once again hitting the "allow unknown sources" option in security is jailbreaking. You are leaving the walled garden of the Google app store. The idea is inconsequential of how hard it is to leave the garden. Without hitting that option you are locked into the Google eco-system.

Rooting, jailbreaking, and unlocking are not the same thing. It just happens that to jailbreak an iPhone you have to root and the two terms have become conflated
 
2013-01-28 10:42:10 AM  
Anyone who has the knowledge, and desire to jailbreak their devices is going to do it regardless of what the law says. This is just another monumental waste of time and money intended to "protect" businesses that are already gouging customers for more than double what it costs to provide a service.
 
2013-01-28 11:27:53 AM  
Why is the Federal government happy to keep lapping up cell phone company's piss and thanking them for the pleasure?

Carriers are just using governments and laws to enforce their products to hang in the market instead of um...actually creating products that will hang in the market because they are good products.
 
2013-01-28 11:37:18 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: I just got this phone with the 1200 minutes and year of service included for $114 (shipping included). The phone was pretty much free.


Stone Meadow: That's it. Other than that he thought it was a great phone. And for as little as $10 a month including the phone itself, as well as talk, data and text using WiFi where available (work and home for me), what's not to like about it?


Here's a fark headline referring to telecom companies that prefer to convince the government to enforce their marketing (instead of creating products that customers will stick with), and all you tools can do is post product endorsements?

Get out of here, you brown-nosing shiatheels.
 
2013-01-28 12:47:49 PM  

torusXL: HotIgneous Intruder: I just got this phone with the 1200 minutes and year of service included for $114 (shipping included). The phone was pretty much free.

Stone Meadow: That's it. Other than that he thought it was a great phone. And for as little as $10 a month including the phone itself, as well as talk, data and text using WiFi where available (work and home for me), what's not to like about it?

Here's a fark headline referring to telecom companies that prefer to convince the government to enforce their marketing (instead of creating products that customers will stick with), and all you tools can do is post product endorsements?

Get out of here, you brown-nosing shiatheels.


The market offers different products and service levels to meet customers' different needs. Video at 11.

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2013-01-28 02:39:10 PM  

Stone Meadow: The market offers different products and service levels to meet customers' different needs. Video at 1


Point missed entirely!

This might be a new Guinness World Record for the highest something as flown over someone's head.
 
2013-01-28 03:13:42 PM  

torusXL: Point missed entirely!


No, I just think you're wrong.
 
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