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(Gothamist)   These girls call themselves "sugar babies".............most other people prefer the old fashioned word that describes such girls: Prostitute   ( gothamist.com) divider line
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2013-01-25 01:04:03 PM  
5 votes:
Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.
2013-01-25 11:09:30 AM  
5 votes:
Meh, more like a concubine.
2013-01-25 01:18:04 PM  
4 votes:
The 60 yr old and the 20 yr old are both consenting adults. Why would anyone care? The author of the article sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder.
2013-01-25 01:07:17 PM  
4 votes:

WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.


8/10. This hook will be swallowed.
2013-01-25 01:39:40 PM  
3 votes:

bighairyguy: Fashion Ins


It's actually a pretty large, prestigious school for people who want to go into that industry.

Although, I'd say 90% of the people who go there are rich girls who just love Gucci and other expensive brands and end up dropping out after a semester because the coursework is actually challenging and they have to learn about textiles, fabrics, design, etc. instead of just shopping and looking at magazines.
2013-01-25 01:21:48 PM  
3 votes:
On one hand, semanitcs aside, this is pretty much prostitution. On the other hand, cases like this that push the boundaries between legal behavior (dating\marrying someone for financial security) and illegal behavior just serve to illustrate that prostitution should be legal and regulated. This arbitrary line of when it is ok to leverage your physical assets and when it is not is, well, arbitrary.
2013-01-25 12:41:09 PM  
3 votes:
If it flies, farks, or floats: Rent it.
2013-01-25 10:43:37 AM  
3 votes:
In a lot of cases, more like a mistress. You don't generally offer a prostitute dinner, a movie, long term support, housing etc.
2013-01-25 02:00:14 PM  
2 votes:
"All men are pigs." "All women are whores."
That's the double-standard in a nutshell: same behavior, completely different moral judgement and social stigma.

Modern feminism isn't about vainly trying to pretend that women are above their animalistic instincts.
It's arguing that women serving their lizard brain shouldn't be any more or less stigmatized than men doing the same damn thing.
2013-01-25 01:46:47 PM  
2 votes:

LazerFish: As a guy who lost a gorgeous 24 year old girlfriend to a 58 year old guy on sugardaddyforme.com, I say fark these sites and anyone who uses them.
I told her it was prostitution, she didn't see it that way...

And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".


When the only thing that was preventing your girlfriend from trading sexual favors for money was "she didn't know it was legal & easy to do", I think she might not have been such a gem to begin with.
2013-01-25 01:38:17 PM  
2 votes:

rustypouch: I'd go on to say " not have her character judged," as I've known some people who consider any criticism of a woman, for any reason, to be misogyny.


I have found that many feminists want superiority, not equality because equality cuts both ways.
2013-01-25 01:29:47 PM  
2 votes:
How about this? Who gives a fark? If the woman is not being abused, is benefiting financially and is comfortable with the arrangement, then farking leave well enough alone. Don't we have far bigger problems in this country than worrying about whether two consenting adults are farking for love, or money? Or maybe it's love of money. The point is, I don't care and so shouldn't anybody else.
2013-01-25 01:21:21 PM  
2 votes:
"And to be honest, I like being independent."

Me thinks you do not understand the concept.
2013-01-25 01:21:14 PM  
2 votes:

kombat_unit: WTF Indeed: LemSkroob: all women are whores. The only thing that changes are the terms of the contract.

Why do I get the feeling you have more than one ex-wife?

That doesn't make him wrong.


It does suggest they were well justified in become ex-wifes and any financial benefits they might have got out of it are undoubtedly not worth anything like enough compared to what they had to put up with.
2013-01-25 01:13:14 PM  
2 votes:
Her first name is Lovely, her mom somehow knew her future.
2013-01-25 01:13:09 PM  
2 votes:
Rich men who only date beautiful women, normal. Beautiful women who only date rich men, gold digging whores. Got it
2013-01-25 01:09:25 PM  
2 votes:

St_Francis_P: In a lot of cases, more like a mistress. You don't generally offer a prostitute dinner, a movie, long term support, housing etc.


This.

If he is paying your way and you are expected to be at his beck and call for what ever reason, sex, companionship, escorting, you're his mistress. It's a step up from street walking, and probably its probably safer.
2013-01-25 01:06:30 PM  
2 votes:

WhippingBoy: xynix: Sounds like a wife to me..

Except for the "sex" part.

In any case, I heartily endorse this product and/or service.


Also, you don't lose half your shiat when you get a new one.
2013-01-25 01:06:26 PM  
2 votes:

WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.


not sure if trolling, or just stupid.
2013-01-25 04:10:21 PM  
1 vote:
If I'm dating, I'll usually pay for the first date and every now and then I'll treat the girl to dinner somewhere nice or maybe put in extra. Usually though, the girls I'm dating will want to pay their way. From the second date onwards they insist on paying their share, or doing a 'you pay for this date, I'll pay for the next' type deal.

I've been told by other guys that I need to be spending more on my dates if I want them to stick around. There are plenty of guys that believe that it's the mans duty to lay down money in order to keep the woman interested. It was suggested as being the real reason for me and one particular girl splitting up. They couldn't understand the problem with trying to keep a woman interested by paying for everything. They might as well just get a sugar baby because at least there it's a sort of unspoken agreement.

Me personally I'll stick to girls who give a crap about me, not the size of my wallet. Granted I don't get as much action as the guys who flash their cash but I'm OK with that.

/Sometimes way, way less action
//Pretty sure my junk hates me
2013-01-25 02:44:46 PM  
1 vote:

LazerFish: Lexx: LazerFish: WhippingBoy: LazerFish: And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".

Why is it that we call old men who like younger women "pervs", but we call old women who like younger men "teachers"?

I don't blame the guy at all for it, its all on her. But really, I don't want to end up like him. He has kids older than her. He is older than both of her parents.If that isn't a little pervy what is? it is tantamount to pedophilia in my view.

It's only pedophilia if she's still maturing physically. She ain't, and it's not.

thats why i used the word "tantamount" meaning "having the same effect as"


You would still be incorrect. Attraction to a sexually mature female of child bearing age is not tantamount to pedophillia, which is considered a disorder. Biologically, there is noting incorrect about a 60+ year old male being attracted to a seually mature 16 year old. We discourage it socially due to the imbalance of power in that relationship, but it not a biological disorder.
2013-01-25 02:41:53 PM  
1 vote:

Lord Dimwit: Honestly, I'm more irritated with a girlfriend of a friend who calls my wife "sexist" for wanting to be a stay-at-home-mom. Apparently, to this person, feminism means doing what you want so long as it is non-traditional.


Some people are feminists because they find the existing inequalities between men and women to be abhorrent and genuinely desire equal and fair social change.
Some people are "feminists" because they've figured out that they can use feminism to grab more power for themselves under the guise of "social justice".

Your friend's girlfriend sounds like one of the latter types.
2013-01-25 02:22:09 PM  
1 vote:

WinoRhino: I think a lot of people who criticize women for having these arrangements with older men do so mainly because of the way women rationalize the entire thing, and not really due to the act itself. In other words, it's no so much the act but what I'll call the "you're-not-fooling-anyone" principle. If a woman were to come right out and say, "Yes, it's essentially prostitution disguised as dating. So what?" That kind-of settles it then, doesn't it? If the women instead starts into all this crap about how it's "similar to dating, and it's more about the companionship", that's when some people feel the overwhelming desire to debate it. "Oh, come on! You're banging him for the money! Just admit it! You're a whore!"


You hit the nail on the head. The problem is that many men and women DO see marriage as simply financial security in exchange for sex, children, and housework. It makes me laugh when these people end up in a string of failed marriages and act so confused about why they can't make it work. Being with someone who is obviously with you for only selfish reasons and then being surprised that the person is selfish and it destroys the relationship is hilarious to me.
2013-01-25 02:08:41 PM  
1 vote:
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2013-01-25 02:08:31 PM  
1 vote:
I think a lot of people who criticize women for having these arrangements with older men do so mainly because of the way women rationalize the entire thing, and not really due to the act itself. In other words, it's no so much the act but what I'll call the "you're-not-fooling-anyone" principle. If a woman were to come right out and say, "Yes, it's essentially prostitution disguised as dating. So what?" That kind-of settles it then, doesn't it? If the women instead starts into all this crap about how it's "similar to dating, and it's more about the companionship", that's when some people feel the overwhelming desire to debate it. "Oh, come on! You're banging him for the money! Just admit it! You're a whore!"
2013-01-25 01:58:56 PM  
1 vote:

Hagenhatesyouall: "Prostitute"?

It's 2013.

Society needs to quit being afraid of farking and accept the fact that the working girl performs a valuable, and therapeutic, service to society.


My first instinct towards prostitution is a libertarian one. Unfortunately, at least around where I live, so many of the so-called "prostitutes" are not here and selling themselves voluntarily.

Until we are able to solve human trafficking, I cannot in good conscience support legalized prostitution. And this is coming from a guy who otherwise supports all kinds of drug/vice decriminalization.
2013-01-25 01:56:58 PM  
1 vote:

cookiefleck: The 60 yr old and the 20 yr old are both consenting adults. Why would anyone care? The author of the article sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder.


The gash is gaining experience in using her cootch for money and control. The poor bastard that gets marries this broad is going to be farked over by her until he's broke.

As men we need to stick together and keep sluts like this in their place. On their back, collecting a paycheck for whoring. Anything else is empowering the evil ones that will destroy our fellow men.
2013-01-25 01:52:53 PM  
1 vote:
And I'm a social loser for spending my twenties home alone playing computer games rather than chasing skanks just as happy to do a mummy for money as date a real person?

Meh, consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want for whatever they need as long as it doesn't bother anyone else. Let the skanks roam free.
2013-01-25 01:50:37 PM  
1 vote:

tricycleracer: LazerFish: As a guy who lost a gorgeous 24 year old girlfriend to a 58 year old guy on sugardaddyforme.com, I say fark these sites and anyone who uses them.
I told her it was prostitution, she didn't see it that way...

And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".

Rest easy knowing that she has lost track of how many times his wrinkly balls have been in her mouth.


But there's a bonus for her - she doesn't have to be anywhere near his asshole for him to teabag her.

/low-hanging fruit
2013-01-25 01:48:30 PM  
1 vote:
But Phillips-who wasn't yet born when Nirvana's Nevermind was first released

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So, baby chasing a dollar (boy but whatever).

Smells Like Teen Spirit <- stop giggling
In Bloom <- or no money
Come As You Are <- at his age?
Breed <- with grandkids older?
Territorial Pissings <- that's for the young bucks, he's just saving his incontinence for home
Drain You <- that's understood right?
Lounge Act <- impressive isn't she
Stay Away <- don't listen to your ex wife
2013-01-25 01:47:58 PM  
1 vote:
If receiving some degree of financial security in a relationship is prostitution, then likely 90% of all marriages are prostitution.
2013-01-25 01:46:21 PM  
1 vote:

Harry Freakstorm: I knew a lot of women who went on a date because they were hungry.

"Unless I really, really get hungry, I never want to see you again, Harry."


After my gf and I broke up, she'd call when she was hungry at night.

Is trading fast food for sex considered prostitution?
2013-01-25 01:46:15 PM  
1 vote:

LazerFish: And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".


Why is it that we call old men who like younger women "pervs", but we call old women who like younger men "teachers"?
2013-01-25 01:45:08 PM  
1 vote:

Kazan: WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.

not sure if trolling, or just stupid.


Neither, I'd say he hit the nail on the head here.
2013-01-25 01:43:44 PM  
1 vote:
As a guy who lost a gorgeous 24 year old girlfriend to a 58 year old guy on sugardaddyforme.com, I say fark these sites and anyone who uses them.
I told her it was prostitution, she didn't see it that way...

And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".
2013-01-25 01:39:54 PM  
1 vote:

justanotherfarkinfarker: Hopefully I have the money to get that kind of setup going in my 60's+


My favorite story, probably not a true one, was the millionaire who left it in his will, and made it publicly known, that his estate would go to the last woman he slept with. He guaranteed not only quantity but quality as well (I think foul play was considered a disqualifier).
2013-01-25 01:39:07 PM  
1 vote:

Southern100: Meet woman at bar, go out to dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - legal.
Meet woman at bar, give her the money you WOULD have spent on dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - illegal.

WTF? The only difference is who gets the money. As far as the guy is concerned, it's still spent either way.


I may be getting trolled, but...these girls would have ZERO interest in a poor old man. A "real" date is more than just your desire for sex and her desire for money. If you've never gone on a date for any reason other than trying to get laid, I feel very sorry for you.
2013-01-25 01:35:55 PM  
1 vote:

cookiefleck: The 60 yr old and the 20 yr old are both consenting adults. Why would anyone care? The author of the article sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder.


Because it is wrong, if we allow people to get away with such relationships where both partners are happy, mutually agree to a relationship, and are not obligated to get married for sex then where will it end!? Why, why next thing you know we will allow homosexuals to marry, adults will be farking turtles.

No, the only relationship that is allowed is the one sanctified by god through marriage with out the relief of divorce, got to protect the sanctity of marriage, and both people end up miserable.
2013-01-25 01:35:50 PM  
1 vote:
currently, there is an interesting documentary running on Netflix called "Whore's Glory"
https://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Whores%27%20Glory/70222627?trkid=4 3 8403

It depicts prostitute life in Thailand, Bangladesh and Mexico, day in the life style with straight objectivity.

It begins in Thailand in a fish tank style brothel where business is brisk and competitive. It then goes to Bangladesh in a red light district where life is extremely cheap, and high in degradation and despair. Mexico is depicted as a corrupt and dangerous, but you do get the feeling of the three, Mexican prostitutes seem to have most control over individual fate. Thai working girls are most 'business as usual', Bangladesh is straight out of Dante.
2013-01-25 01:35:34 PM  
1 vote:
When I was unemployed my girlfriend was still banging me.  I think she's a keeper.
2013-01-25 01:34:02 PM  
1 vote:
Enjoy the ride honey, your replacement just a financial aid rejection letter.
2013-01-25 01:33:42 PM  
1 vote:
If they're both up front about it, who cares?

My last relationship was built on her lies. In the end, that's a lot more destructive than this arrangement.
2013-01-25 01:25:06 PM  
1 vote:

cgraves67: WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.

I think a feminist would take issue with the idea that having sex with multiple partners is "degrading" for a young woman but status quo for a young man. I would imagine they would agree that the "for money" part is still bad.


I was under the impression that the current iteration of feminist thought views sex basically thus: "a woman can have sex with whomever she wants, whenever she wants, for any reason she wants, and not have her character judged differently than a man engaged in similar acts. Also, while a woman CAN do these things, such acts should never be expected, demanded, or implied, and whatever behavior she engages in, she should never be viewed as less than a complete human being worthy of respect".
2013-01-25 01:24:23 PM  
1 vote:

EnglishMan: MooseOnTheLoose: St_Francis_P: In a lot of cases, more like a mistress. You don't generally offer a prostitute dinner, a movie, long term support, housing etc.

This.

If he is paying your way and you are expected to be at his beck and call for what ever reason, sex, companionship, escorting, you're his mistress. It's a step up from street walking, and probably its probably safer.

Sounds like a prostitute that's on call. Mistress makes it sound like there's some affection there, as if she would be interested in a 70 year old who wasn't a millionaire.


I'd be more inclined to agree with you if the girls aren't monogamous. If they are I believe the proper term is Gold-digger.
2013-01-25 01:24:10 PM  
1 vote:

Jim_Callahan: Yeah, the author of the article seems to be the one that's confused as to what prostitution entails. Legally, it's only if someone pays directly for a sexual act in cash, goods, or services. If the relationship goes beyond sex (like, you're hanging out on a regular basis) and the sex isn't directly tied to compensation (like, every blowjob results in one gram of meth or whatever) then it's not prostitution.

Buying shiat for the person you're sleeping with in general is just dating.


So, you can skirt the law by paying for companionship, with the implied understanding that if the sex stops, you will buy your companionship elsewhere? While that may pass legal muster, it is still, in principal, prostitution.
2013-01-25 01:23:36 PM  
1 vote:
It's a good bang for your buck.
2013-01-25 01:22:28 PM  
1 vote:

WTF Indeed: Kazan: not sure if trolling, or just stupid.

Not trolling, not stupid. More a set up for the people that will come into the thread claiming we shouldn't call them whores because they are free to do what they want because it's empowering.


so both trolling AND stupid. gotcha.
2013-01-25 01:20:28 PM  
1 vote:
Who cares what two consenting adults do with each other and why. FFS let people do what they wanna do.
2013-01-25 01:18:03 PM  
1 vote:
Yeah, the author of the article seems to be the one that's confused as to what prostitution entails. Legally, it's only if someone pays directly for a sexual act in cash, goods, or services. If the relationship goes beyond sex (like, you're hanging out on a regular basis) and the sex isn't directly tied to compensation (like, every blowjob results in one gram of meth or whatever) then it's not prostitution.

Buying shiat for the person you're sleeping with in general is just dating.
2013-01-25 01:17:58 PM  
1 vote:

kombat_unit: WTF Indeed: LemSkroob: all women are whores. The only thing that changes are the terms of the contract.

Why do I get the feeling you have more than one ex-wife?

That doesn't make him wrong.


If you have any wives, ex or not, it pretty much makes you always wrong
2013-01-25 01:17:15 PM  
1 vote:

QueenMamaBee: WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.

I was almost pissed off.... but sadly that has more than a slight bit of truth to it.


What's so bad about it? All I can see is win/win!

Us dirty old bastards get some hot young tail, and the hot young tail gets to... um... "empower" themselves. Or something.
No one loses!
2013-01-25 01:14:53 PM  
1 vote:
Didn't study in school, too busy having sex with popular, cute guys.

Now wants a real job and career, can only afford it by having sex with gross, bristly, wrinkly old men.


CIRCLE OF LIFE.
2013-01-25 01:14:44 PM  
1 vote:

MooseOnTheLoose: St_Francis_P: In a lot of cases, more like a mistress. You don't generally offer a prostitute dinner, a movie, long term support, housing etc.

This.

If he is paying your way and you are expected to be at his beck and call for what ever reason, sex, companionship, escorting, you're his mistress. It's a step up from street walking, and probably its probably safer.


Yup, that's straight-out mistress status. My guess is the general public just *really* doesn't like the idea that women might *unashamedly* exploit their body for financial gain. But nooo, they're in love with their balding, pudgy financial analyst husband. Really.

//The only thing these girls are doing "wrong" is openly admitting the big lie.
2013-01-25 01:13:59 PM  
1 vote:
I guess my fiance could be considered a Sugar Baby, I'm 38 she's 19, oh well if it works great if it doesn't almost all my assets are in a trust for my 6 year old daughter anyway. (Result of my late wife's estate)

/She also has no problem with a pre-nup her idea actually
2013-01-25 01:13:56 PM  
1 vote:

Kazan: not sure if trolling, or just stupid.


Not trolling, not stupid. More a set up for the people that will come into the thread claiming we shouldn't call them whores because they are free to do what they want because it's empowering.
2013-01-25 01:13:54 PM  
1 vote:

WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.


I was almost pissed off.... but sadly that has more than a slight bit of truth to it.
2013-01-25 01:10:57 PM  
1 vote:
all women are whores. The only thing that changes are the terms of the contract.
2013-01-25 01:10:32 PM  
1 vote:
Do they still make those candies?
How could they be sooo good, and the sugar daddy, so... unappealing?
2013-01-25 01:09:39 PM  
1 vote:
2013-01-25 01:08:15 PM  
1 vote:
whoo-weres
2013-01-25 01:05:23 PM  
1 vote:

xynix: Sounds like a wife to me..


Except for the "sex" part.

In any case, I heartily endorse this product and/or service.
2013-01-25 11:34:21 AM  
1 vote:
Sounds like a wife to me..
 
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