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(Gothamist)   These girls call themselves "sugar babies".............most other people prefer the old fashioned word that describes such girls: Prostitute   (gothamist.com) divider line 281
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2013-01-25 04:10:22 PM  

cookiefleck: more people painted her as a golddigging trollop than him a old perv.


I feel that your just bursting to make some sort of salient point. What the hell is it???
 
2013-01-25 04:13:13 PM  

MycroftHolmes: LazerFish: MycroftHolmes: LazerFish: ok, well then, it's just completely disgusting and stupid... in my opinion

You are entitled to your opinion. I will be curious if you still feel the same way when you are 60+.

It's not the guy i'm disgusted with

Ahhh, well. Studies have shown that women are attracted to power and security, while men are attracted to physical beauty. Seems like May-December relationships fit both needs pretty well. 20 to 70 may be stretching the point, but to each their own. 60 to 25 wouldn't really freak me out too much.


if it was a relationship and not just "I will make your car payment if you let me take some nudie pics of you" or "I will buy you some lingerie if you let me *insert random sex act here*" I could respect it (even if it did seem icky).
 
2013-01-25 04:16:26 PM  

St_Francis_P: In a lot of cases, more like a mistress. You don't generally offer a prostitute dinner, a movie, long term support, housing etc.


all mistresses are whores
the label is a matter of how much you pay her, over how long a period of time
slut: a couple of beers, one night stand
crack whore: some drugs, as long as you have drugs
street walker: cheap, quickie in the alley
prostitute: more, motel room, maybe your car or house, by the hour
escort: mid-high, hotel, home, her home, by the hour
porn star: mid-high, legal as long as you record the sex, any where, anytime, by the hour
mistress: high, her own home paid for by you, by the month or year
wife: all you have, live together, eternity, death or divorce, whichever comes first

it is cute how mistresses are not arrested, nor their johns. guess there are different rules for the rich folks
why dont more prostitutes advertise as home amateur porn stars?
 
2013-01-25 04:16:34 PM  

WhippingBoy: cookiefleck: more people painted her as a golddigging trollop than him a old perv.

I feel that your just bursting to make some sort of salient point. What the hell is it???


that when it comes to these types of relationships the female will always be the greater of two evils, even though the guy is the one that flaunts his money to attract the chick to begin with.
 
2013-01-25 04:17:36 PM  
Its basically prostitution only long-term. duh
 
2013-01-25 04:17:40 PM  
give me doughnuts:
fireclown: tom baker's scarf: Came here to say this, obviously. Leaving happy.

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Peri was something, but my heart will always be with Leela.

Couldn't they find anyone hot to be The Doctor's companion back then?\


Hey now. Leela was British-TV-hot. Plus, she was not farking annoying which is more than I can say for certain companions.
 
2013-01-25 04:21:32 PM  

The sound of one hand clapping: Me personally I'll stick to girls who give a crap about me, not the size of my wallet. Granted I don't get as much action as the guys who flash their cash but I'm OK with that.

/Sometimes way, way less action
//Pretty sure my junk hates me


To each their own, but I feel like it's much, much more fulfilling to actually like the person you're around (and have them like you back). I also think of many things in terms of "Am I doing what I would expect from a mate?".
 
2013-01-25 04:22:04 PM  
Hm, I've always made a point to date men who made less $$$ than me; I deeply, deeply loath the idea sugar baby/daddy relationships, or that I owe a man sex because he paid for X, Y, or Z.

As it were, I'm happily married to a man who currently, and probably always will, earn less $$ than me. If he were to suddenly come into a lot of money, or somehow get massive raise, I know I'd be fairly uncomfortable and insecure with our new arrangement.

Needless to say, I love me some broke n*ggas.
 
2013-01-25 04:23:20 PM  

udhq: Hagenhatesyouall: "Prostitute"?

Until we are able to solve human trafficking, I cannot in good conscience support legalized prostitution.


ProfessorOhki: udhq: Hagenhatesyouall: "Prostitute"?

Well, you could make the same argument as made for drugs/drug violence, right? If a legal supply of prostitution becomes available, it will pull the floor out from underneath the black market, and make trafficking far less lucrative.


Right.   When sex work is legalized, the police can then focus their resources on the newly shrunken black market sex trade, where the real atrocities take place.  If an adult woman may lawfully engage in sex work with all the protections of the law at her back, her risk of being abused or cheated by her customers or business associates goes way down.  The black market for sex work would shrink to the kind of thing that a broad consensus wants to remain unlawful, such as exploiting children.
 
2013-01-25 04:25:44 PM  

cookiefleck: WhippingBoy: cookiefleck: more people painted her as a golddigging trollop than him a old perv.

I feel that your just bursting to make some sort of salient point. What the hell is it???

that when it comes to these types of relationships the female will always be the greater of two evils, even though the guy is the one that flaunts his money to attract the chick to begin with.


I'm sure you'll see what you expect to see. No matter what's actually there.
 
2013-01-25 04:27:36 PM  
 
2013-01-25 04:32:37 PM  

No Such Agency: give me doughnuts:
fireclown: tom baker's scarf: Came here to say this, obviously. Leaving happy.

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Peri was something, but my heart will always be with Leela.

Couldn't they find anyone hot to be The Doctor's companion back then?\

Hey now. Leela was British-TV-hot. Plus, she was not farking annoying which is more than I can say for certain companions.


Addrick and Tessa. OMG. It was SO hard for me to get through those episodes, I absolutely hated them.
 
2013-01-25 04:33:35 PM  

vonapathy: As it were, I'm happily married to a man who currently, and probably always will, earn less $$ than me. If he were to suddenly come into a lot of money, or somehow get massive raise, I know I'd be fairly uncomfortable and insecure with our new arrangement.


Do you feel like him making more money or being given a windfall would be threatening because it would give you less control?
 
2013-01-25 04:35:22 PM  

Lexx: cgraves67: WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.

I think a feminist would take issue with the idea that having sex with multiple partners is "degrading" for a young woman but status quo for a young man. I would imagine they would agree that the "for money" part is still bad.

I was under the impression that the current iteration of feminist thought views sex basically thus: "a woman can have sex with whomever she wants, whenever she wants, for any reason she wants, and not have her character judged differently than a man engaged in similar acts. Also, while a woman CAN do these things, such acts should never be expected, demanded, or implied, and whatever behavior she engages in, she should never be viewed as less than a complete human being worthy of respect".


I would think we would find that just about everyone here would be viewing a younger male doing the same thing as these females as a bit of a sleazebag at best.
 
2013-01-25 04:36:04 PM  

vonapathy: Hm, I've always made a point to date men who made less $$$ than me; I deeply, deeply loath the idea sugar baby/daddy relationships, or that I owe a man sex because he paid for X, Y, or Z.

As it were, I'm happily married to a man who currently, and probably always will, earn less $$ than me. If he were to suddenly come into a lot of money, or somehow get massive raise, I know I'd be fairly uncomfortable and insecure with our new arrangement.

Needless to say, I love me some broke n*ggas.


Hope he never makes more than you, sounds like you've already got enough insecurities ...
 
2013-01-25 04:53:18 PM  

WhippingBoy: LazerFish: And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".

Why is it that we call old men who like younger women "pervs", but we call old women who like younger men "teachers"?


Considering the number of teachers getting busted for improper relationships, I would see the terms "perv" and "teacher" as two sides of the same coin...
 
2013-01-25 05:00:29 PM  
I am sad to see the "all women are whores crowd," but I am not surprised. It bothers me when people say that because it is simply not true. "All" of one group of people cannot share one characteristic. "All" of any one group are not one thing.

My boyfriend makes considerably less than I do. He works his ass off at his job, which he loves, but it does not make him a lot of money. I do not care a bit.

When he and I are together, we have so much fun. We still go places and do things, but he does not always pay for the date and I would not expect him to. I am happy cooking for him and putting a DVD in the player instead of going out to dinner and a movie. We have a great time. I love driving to the lake and sitting on the tailgate of his truck and watching the sun go down.

I love him, not his wallet. Yeah, he rocks it out in bed. That, not money, is a deal breaker. I am 41 he is 34.
 
2013-01-25 05:02:07 PM  

Shakespeare's Sister: I am sad to see the "all women are whores crowd," but I am not surprised. It bothers me when people say that because it is simply not true. "All" of one group of people cannot share one characteristic. "All" of any one group are not one thing.

My boyfriend makes considerably less than I do. He works his ass off at his job, which he loves, but it does not make him a lot of money. I do not care a bit.

When he and I are together, we have so much fun. We still go places and do things, but he does not always pay for the date and I would not expect him to. I am happy cooking for him and putting a DVD in the player instead of going out to dinner and a movie. We have a great time. I love driving to the lake and sitting on the tailgate of his truck and watching the sun go down.

I love him, not his wallet. Yeah, he rocks it out in bed. That, not money, is a deal breaker. I am 41 he is 34.


What about the "all old men are pervs crowd"? How do you feel about them?
 
2013-01-25 05:06:15 PM  

Shakespeare's Sister: I love him, not his wallet. Yeah, he rocks it out in bed. That, not money, is a deal breaker. I am 41 he is 34.


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2013-01-25 05:06:27 PM  
I always preferred the term "dick-ornament" for women like this. They're not quite whores (prostitutes go away when they've finished the short-term job) but they're not girlfriends, either (there's no love here, I'm sure). They're pretty baubles to show off, and they are primarily worn on the payer's penis. They aren't even mistresses, because a mistress generally has some feeling for the person she's with.

Therefore, "sugar-babies" are just dick-ornaments with a prettier title.

And I don't feel bad calling them that. They know damn well what they're doing is selling their body for financial gain, and that they;ve never had any intention of having any emotional investment in the relationship(s).

I can respect what a prostitute does, because they're honest about the nature of the transaction. These sugar-babies are dishonest about it-- even to themselves-- and they occupy a rather low ethical shelf. They're leeches who will be in for a rude awakening when they're older and the good looks don't impress rich old guys.
 
2013-01-25 05:11:03 PM  

cookiefleck: The 60 yr old and the 20 yr old are both consenting adults. Why would anyone care? The author of the article sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder.


Says the skank who is a wannabe sugar baby. Yo, if you don't understand why this irks a lot of people, you are a serious moron.
 
2013-01-25 05:12:18 PM  

udhq: Until we are able to solve human trafficking, I cannot in good conscience support legalized prostitution. And this is coming from a guy who otherwise supports all kinds of drug/vice decriminalization.


Wouldn't legalization provide avenues to solve human trafficking? Once OSHA is involved, it will become a crap low paying job like any other. There will be no need or advantage to forcing people into it. And even if that didn't succeed, wouldn't legalized prostitution at worst not make human trafficking any worse?
 
2013-01-25 05:13:14 PM  

Shakespeare's Sister: I am sad to see the "all women are whores crowd," but I am not surprised. It bothers me when people say that because it is simply not true. "All" of one group of people cannot share one characteristic. "All" of any one group are not one thing.

My boyfriend makes considerably less than I do. He works his ass off at his job, which he loves, but it does not make him a lot of money. I do not care a bit.

When he and I are together, we have so much fun. We still go places and do things, but he does not always pay for the date and I would not expect him to. I am happy cooking for him and putting a DVD in the player instead of going out to dinner and a movie. We have a great time. I love driving to the lake and sitting on the tailgate of his truck and watching the sun go down.

I love him, not his wallet. Yeah, he rocks it out in bed. That, not money, is a deal breaker. I am 41 he is 34.


You sound awesome. In my view, you get what true relationship happiness is all about. I think you're going to have lotsa happy years and you're always going to be "The Catch."

/uh oh, did I just potentially name a new Reality TV show? :)
 
2013-01-25 05:15:47 PM  
Shakespeare's Sister:

I prefer to use the term "in general" rather than the word "all". You're right, there are a lot of exceptions.

However, each gender generally favors certain attributes in a mate. Some of this is nature and some of this is nurture.

My ex, who swore up and down that money didn't mean shiat to her turned into the Wicked Witch of the West once we broke up and she realized I wasn't going to be around to pay for her college. That, and she was happy to take some assets off my hands, as it were. It was not yet a week after she moved out until she was biatching on Facebook about how poor she was.

Of course, that's only anecdotal and experiences will vary. It's always interesting how people change their tune once shiat hits the fan.
 
2013-01-25 05:21:55 PM  

LindenFark: udhq: Until we are able to solve human trafficking, I cannot in good conscience support legalized prostitution. And this is coming from a guy who otherwise supports all kinds of drug/vice decriminalization.

Wouldn't legalization provide avenues to solve human trafficking? Once OSHA is involved, it will become a crap low paying job like any other. There will be no need or advantage to forcing people into it. And even if that didn't succeed, wouldn't legalized prostitution at worst not make human trafficking any worse?


You think OSHA would be awkward, just wait until they unionize.
 
2013-01-25 05:22:14 PM  

WhippingBoy: Shakespeare's Sister: I am sad to see the "all women are whores crowd," but I am not surprised. It bothers me when people say that because it is simply not true. "All" of one group of people cannot share one characteristic. "All" of any one group are not one thing.

My boyfriend makes considerably less than I do. He works his ass off at his job, which he loves, but it does not make him a lot of money. I do not care a bit.

When he and I are together, we have so much fun. We still go places and do things, but he does not always pay for the date and I would not expect him to. I am happy cooking for him and putting a DVD in the player instead of going out to dinner and a movie. We have a great time. I love driving to the lake and sitting on the tailgate of his truck and watching the sun go down.

I love him, not his wallet. Yeah, he rocks it out in bed. That, not money, is a deal breaker. I am 41 he is 34.

What about the "all old men are pervs crowd"? How do you feel about them?


I do not agree that "all old men are pervs." I think that crowd is just as wrong as the "all women are whores" crowd. Before I met my current bf, I dated a man who was 54--that would make him 14 years older than I. He was not a perv by any stretch of the imagination. He and I broke up because he was not a man of his word, among other reasons.
 
2013-01-25 05:23:34 PM  

Fear the Clam: Shakespeare's Sister: I love him, not his wallet. Yeah, he rocks it out in bed. That, not money, is a deal breaker. I am 41 he is 34.

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Perhaps it is a bit Cougar Town. I don't know. I don't see myself that way. . .but okay. I don't mind being called one. Hey. . .I go down and swallow. What more could the man ask for?
 
2013-01-25 05:24:49 PM  
This is still prostitution, albeit not the windy in front seat for enough for another hit of meth, but more of the fancy agency type.
 
2013-01-25 05:27:49 PM  

Fear the Clam: Shakespeare's Sister: I love him, not his wallet. Yeah, he rocks it out in bed. That, not money, is a deal breaker. I am 41 he is 34.

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Is that the only face Courtney Cox can still make?
 
2013-01-25 05:28:26 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: Shakespeare's Sister:

I prefer to use the term "in general" rather than the word "all". You're right, there are a lot of exceptions.

However, each gender generally favors certain attributes in a mate. Some of this is nature and some of this is nurture.

My ex, who swore up and down that money didn't mean shiat to her turned into the Wicked Witch of the West once we broke up and she realized I wasn't going to be around to pay for her college. That, and she was happy to take some assets off my hands, as it were. It was not yet a week after she moved out until she was biatching on Facebook about how poor she was.

Of course, that's only anecdotal and experiences will vary. It's always interesting how people change their tune once shiat hits the fan.


It is unfortunate that she turned out to be that way. Truthfully, both of our stories are anecdotal, so neither really proves anything. I am in college, but my employer--the Tennessee Board of Regents--is paying for me to go. I buy books and pay the on-line fee every semester, but since I am a college prof for a TBR school, they pay the tuition and stuff.

People do change when shiat hits the fan.That is very true. If he and I ever part--which I hope does not happen--I will not try and take anything from him. He could take from me. I own a home and have a good savings/retirement.
 
2013-01-25 05:31:18 PM  

zabadu: Fear the Clam: Shakespeare's Sister: I love him, not his wallet. Yeah, he rocks it out in bed. That, not money, is a deal breaker. I am 41 he is 34.

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Is that the only face Courtney Cox can still make?


No, but it takes the Bankin-Rass animation team hours to change her expression.
 
2013-01-25 05:33:12 PM  

Shakespeare's Sister: It is unfortunate that she turned out to be that way. Truthfully, both of our stories are anecdotal, so neither really proves anything.


Thanks. And, true; I was just more saying that things tend to lean a certain way. I second unfarkingbelievable's notion that you do seem pretty awesome, though. So, +1 Internets for you.
 
2013-01-25 05:38:02 PM  

unfarkingbelievable: Shakespeare's Sister: I am sad to see the "all women are whores crowd," but I am not surprised. It bothers me when people say that because it is simply not true. "All" of one group of people cannot share one characteristic. "All" of any one group are not one thing.

My boyfriend makes considerably less than I do. He works his ass off at his job, which he loves, but it does not make him a lot of money. I do not care a bit.

When he and I are together, we have so much fun. We still go places and do things, but he does not always pay for the date and I would not expect him to. I am happy cooking for him and putting a DVD in the player instead of going out to dinner and a movie. We have a great time. I love driving to the lake and sitting on the tailgate of his truck and watching the sun go down.

I love him, not his wallet. Yeah, he rocks it out in bed. That, not money, is a deal breaker. I am 41 he is 34.

You sound awesome. In my view, you get what true relationship happiness is all about. I think you're going to have lotsa happy years and you're always going to be "The Catch."

/uh oh, did I just potentially name a new Reality TV show? :)


I am pretty awesome. He tells me all the time he won the gf lottery. I don't see it, personally. I think I made out like a bandit. He is so good to me and he loves my kids. He treats them like they are his, which they are not, they are from my ex-husband. He knew I had 2 kids when we met, and he has stepped up to be a superb step-dad (we are only dating, not married, but that is what he wants to be called). He did not have to do it--he could have told me goodbye on the first date when I told him about my kids (Steven 10, Allison 5), but he didn't.

He is so respectful and kind. In the time we have been dating--about 2 and 1/2 months--I have not opened my own door or put on my own coat. He is a gentleman--well--except when he should not be--heehee *blush*. I just could not ask for better. He teases me about being old. I tell him, you don't complain when I use my extra years of experience to give you a bj. He just agrees and smiles.

Did I mention he goes out a few nights a week to play poker? I don't care a bit. It's his money, he earns it, he can spend it as he sees fit. On nights where I do not have to teach the next day, I go with him. I do not play very well, so I watch sports on the big screen while he plays. He sends me a text if he needs something from the bar.

I like the new Reality Show idea of "The Catch." I would star in it. I don't think he would, though. But I like it.

Thank you for your kind words. Most of his friends have told him "when you get sick of her, give her my number." He tells them all the same thing "that ain't going to happen."
 
2013-01-25 05:58:30 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: Shakespeare's Sister: It is unfortunate that she turned out to be that way. Truthfully, both of our stories are anecdotal, so neither really proves anything.

Thanks. And, true; I was just more saying that things tend to lean a certain way. I second unfarkingbelievable's notion that you do seem pretty awesome, though. So, +1 Internets for you.


Thank you both for your kind words, and, you, KiwDaWabbit for the +1.

It has taken me quite a bit of time, and growing up, to realize what is important in a relationship. I think that my bf likes my age bc of the smarts that come with it. I don't play the games that some women do. I tell him what I am thinking and what I want in bed. He does not have to guess. I do not play the "if you knew me, you would know" game or say "nothing" and pout when he asks what is wrong. I do not give the silent treatment or withhold sex. Those are games of the immature. Besides. . .withholding sex.. . that means I don't get any. Fark that. I want to walk funny the next day and be tired. Besides being better lovers, there is a lot to be said for dating a woman 5+ years older than you.
 
2013-01-25 06:13:49 PM  

cryinoutloud: And now that it's all out in the open, and everybody can fark everybody else on Main Street for all the morality police care, you're still mad because now the women are out there openly farking for money, just like you wanted them to do.


Where on earth are you getting this conclusion from in this thread? Your painting guys with a very broad brush, when their is a lot of variety in opinion here. Some guys think think it's fine, others think it's abhorrent and most call it prostitution. I would imagine that if you took a poll you would actually find more women that had the opinion that these sugar babies are prostitutes then men. Personally, I think we should make prostitution legal and try to end sex slavery, but that's a different discussion.

A lot of the younger feminists /do/ actively support using their body one way or another to take men for their money. I've said before, and it's still true that strip clubs are places where old feminists think the men are taking advantage of the women and the young feminists think the women are taking advantage of the men.

That being said, you seem to have a real 'men are evil' vibe going in a lot of your posts in different threads. Men are no more 'evil' then women and it's not making Fark any more civil when some people constantly bash the other sex.
 
2013-01-25 06:18:25 PM  

Shakespeare's Sister: unfarkingbelievable: Shakespeare's Sister: I am sad to see the "all women are whores crowd," but I am not surprised. It bothers me when people say that because it is simply not true. "All" of one group of people cannot share one characteristic. "All" of any one group are not one thing.

My boyfriend makes considerably less than I do. He works his ass off at his job, which he loves, but it does not make him a lot of money. I do not care a bit.

When he and I are together, we have so much fun. We still go places and do things, but he does not always pay for the date and I would not expect him to. I am happy cooking for him and putting a DVD in the player instead of going out to dinner and a movie. We have a great time. I love driving to the lake and sitting on the tailgate of his truck and watching the sun go down.

I love him, not his wallet. Yeah, he rocks it out in bed. That, not money, is a deal breaker. I am 41 he is 34.

You sound awesome. In my view, you get what true relationship happiness is all about. I think you're going to have lotsa happy years and you're always going to be "The Catch."

/uh oh, did I just potentially name a new Reality TV show? :)

I am pretty awesome. He tells me all the time he won the gf lottery. I don't see it, personally. I think I made out like a bandit. He is so good to me and he loves my kids. He treats them like they are his, which they are not, they are from my ex-husband. He knew I had 2 kids when we met, and he has stepped up to be a superb step-dad (we are only dating, not married, but that is what he wants to be called). He did not have to do it--he could have told me goodbye on the first date when I told him about my kids (Steven 10, Allison 5), but he didn't.

He is so respectful and kind. In the time we have been dating--about 2 and 1/2 months--I have not opened my own door or put on my own coat. He is a gentleman--well--except when he should not be--heehee *blush*. I just could not ask for better. He teases me about be ...


Every now and then ... seriously ... on Fark I get inspired by "strangers." You truly made my day. I'm currently a single farkette and your refreshing happiness gives me hope! So ... cheers!
 
2013-01-25 06:29:00 PM  

cgraves67: WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.

I think a feminist would take issue with the idea that having sex with multiple partners is "degrading" for a young woman but status quo for a young man. I would imagine they would agree that the "for money" part is still bad.


As a feminist, I have an issue with the ever persistent double standard. But, I don't give a damn what consenting adults do. Prostitution should be legal. If that's how these young women need to make their way through the world, who am I to judge?
 
2013-01-25 06:30:02 PM  

onyxruby: cryinoutloud: And now that it's all out in the open, and everybody can fark everybody else on Main Street for all the morality police care, you're still mad because now the women are out there openly farking for money, just like you wanted them to do.

Where on earth are you getting this conclusion from in this thread? Your painting guys with a very broad brush, when their is a lot of variety in opinion here. Some guys think think it's fine, others think it's abhorrent and most call it prostitution. I would imagine that if you took a poll you would actually find more women that had the opinion that these sugar babies are prostitutes then men. Personally, I think we should make prostitution legal and try to end sex slavery, but that's a different discussion.

A lot of the younger feminists /do/ actively support using their body one way or another to take men for their money. I've said before, and it's still true that strip clubs are places where old feminists think the men are taking advantage of the women and the young feminists think the women are taking advantage of the men.

That being said, you seem to have a real 'men are evil' vibe going in a lot of your posts in different threads. Men are no more 'evil' then women and it's not making Fark any more civil when some people constantly bash the other sex.


I fear your wasting your breath. For whatever reason, Fark attracts a lot of people who pass everything through a filter, seeing only what they want (or expect) to see. Actually, that's probably why it's so popular. As long as you're willing to ignore or trivialize any and all evidence to the contrary, you can always find something that will reinforce your narrow world view.
 
2013-01-25 06:37:36 PM  

WhippingBoy: I fear your wasting your breath. For whatever reason, Fark attracts a lot of people who pass everything through a filter, seeing only what they want (or expect) to see. Actually, that's probably why it's so popular. As long as you're willing to ignore or trivialize any and all evidence to the contrary, you can always find something that will reinforce your narrow world view.


Your probably right, but the man bashing has gotten very old. For some reason it's okay to bash on men on Fark when bashing on groups will quickly get you banned. It really takes away from things when threads constantly escalate into a stream of trolling.

Once upon a time the mod's were a lot better at keeping the tone down, and people who acted like 'asshats' got warned off. For some reason the tone for a while now has been more vitriol and the days of Fark being America's town square are over.
 
2013-01-25 06:42:37 PM  

Southern100: ignorotic: Southern100:I'M not making the distinction - I'm just pointing out that the LAW makes that distinction. Whether you agree with it or not, the guy is paying "money for sex".

My personal feelings about "casual sex" are not relevant to the conversation.


It's not about "feelings" but opinions, and you are insinuating that I don't realize casual sex happens, think it should be banned, or somehow should be curbed. I never said anything even close to that. My point, AGAIN, is that situations like this are totally, completely not the same as dating someone you are interested in and like to spend time with. That word "date" is vague, and I've seen it used by women to try and make being a hooker or stripper sound more acceptable. It's the same thing as a thug saying "I'm getting some money" when in reality they mean they are going to rob someone or steal something.

The idea that a date with someone you are interested in is the same as paying for sex is idiotic. The idea that all casual sex is the same as prostitution is also idiotic. I know there are girls who only go on dates to get free food and drinks. Most of the girls I've been around who do that don't sleep with the guy at the end of the night unless they find him "hot."
 
2013-01-25 06:47:41 PM  

Shakespeare's Sister: KiwDaWabbit: Shakespeare's Sister: It is unfortunate that she turned out to be that way. Truthfully, both of our stories are anecdotal, so neither really proves anything.

Thanks. And, true; I was just more saying that things tend to lean a certain way. I second unfarkingbelievable's notion that you do seem pretty awesome, though. So, +1 Internets for you.

Thank you both for your kind words, and, you, KiwDaWabbit for the +1.

It has taken me quite a bit of time, and growing up, to realize what is important in a relationship. I think that my bf likes my age bc of the smarts that come with it. I don't play the games that some women do. I tell him what I am thinking and what I want in bed. He does not have to guess. I do not play the "if you knew me, you would know" game or say "nothing" and pout when he asks what is wrong. I do not give the silent treatment or withhold sex. Those are games of the immature. Besides. . .withholding sex.. . that means I don't get any. Fark that. I want to walk funny the next day and be tired. Besides being better lovers, there is a lot to be said for dating a woman 5+ years older than you.


Do you have a sister?
 
2013-01-25 06:50:28 PM  

onyxruby: WhippingBoy: I fear your wasting your breath. For whatever reason, Fark attracts a lot of people who pass everything through a filter, seeing only what they want (or expect) to see. Actually, that's probably why it's so popular. As long as you're willing to ignore or trivialize any and all evidence to the contrary, you can always find something that will reinforce your narrow world view.

Your probably right, but the man bashing has gotten very old. For some reason it's okay to bash on men on Fark when bashing on groups will quickly get you banned. It really takes away from things when threads constantly escalate into a stream of trolling.

Once upon a time the mod's were a lot better at keeping the tone down, and people who acted like 'asshats' got warned off. For some reason the tone for a while now has been more vitriol and the days of Fark being America's town square are over.


Well now, that's just what a misogynist *would* say, isn't it? :P
 
2013-01-25 06:55:03 PM  

MooseOnTheLoose: St_Francis_P: In a lot of cases, more like a mistress. You don't generally offer a prostitute dinner, a movie, long term support, housing etc.

This.

If he is paying your way and you are expected to be at his beck and call for what ever reason, sex, companionship, escorting, you're his mistress. It's a step up from street walking, and probably its probably safer.


Now one of these Manhattan sugar daddies has been arrested on a first degree rape charge. He's accused of raping his sugar baby on their first in-person meeting.
 
2013-01-25 07:00:16 PM  

WhippingBoy: For whatever reason, Fark attracts a lot of people who pass everything through a filter, seeing only what they want (or expect) to see. Actually, that's probably why it's so popular. As long as you're willing to ignore or trivialize any and all evidence to the contrary, you can always find something that will reinforce your narrow world view.


To me, that's the world at large and it's not just exclusive to Fark.

These types of threads tend to be more heated, in my opinion, because peoples' views are somewhat based on their life experiences. And, some people have had some pretty shiatty experiences. That could be the lens their looking at it through. I don't want this to be taken out of context or seen as "blaming the victim" because one person is at fault for any type of victimization, and that's the perpetrator. However, I think that people should have introspection into each of those situations as well and not wholly generalize one gender as "good" or "bad". Anyone from any demographic has the potential to be an asshole.
 
2013-01-25 07:07:31 PM  

kombat_unit: WTF Indeed: LemSkroob: all women are whores. The only thing that changes are the terms of the contract.

Why do I get the feeling you have more than one ex-wife?

That doesn't make him wrong.


Sure it does. I know I'm late to the thread, but some women CAN AND DO take care of themselves and their own needs, because they've worked hard in a career to do so. And not all of them look like cave trolls.

I have a guy friend who only dates these gorgeous, airbrushed women, then he gets dumped and trashed on for not being rich, etc. I encouraged him to date a NORMAL woman for once, but he was out with a blonde whose bra size was bigger than her IQ again after that.

*shrug* you can tell a lot about a chick in the first ten minutes. If she's dripping designer clothes and French tip manicured nails, chances are she'll bleed you dry and be no fun in bed.

Look for a girl who doesn't have a purse dog, maybe isn't an artificial looking 9.5. Who has a job FIELD and an education. If you date a woman for her looks, looks are literally all you're going to get 99% of the time.

Just my two cents here.
 
2013-01-25 07:27:48 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: WhippingBoy: For whatever reason, Fark attracts a lot of people who pass everything through a filter, seeing only what they want (or expect) to see. Actually, that's probably why it's so popular. As long as you're willing to ignore or trivialize any and all evidence to the contrary, you can always find something that will reinforce your narrow world view.

To me, that's the world at large and it's not just exclusive to Fark.

These types of threads tend to be more heated, in my opinion, because peoples' views are somewhat based on their life experiences. And, some people have had some pretty shiatty experiences. That could be the lens their looking at it through. I don't want this to be taken out of context or seen as "blaming the victim" because one person is at fault for any type of victimization, and that's the perpetrator. However, I think that people should have introspection into each of those situations as well and not wholly generalize one gender as "good" or "bad". Anyone from any demographic has the potential to be an asshole.


I agree. However, I do get the sense that some individuals consider themselves to be "victims", not because of their life experiences or anything that's happened to them, but because they've been taught ("indoctrinated" is probably a better term) that they're "victims". As such, they amplify every situation that conforms to this belief, and summarily dismiss any and all evidence to the contrary.
 
2013-01-25 07:38:42 PM  

Ross E. Krushan: cookiefleck: The 60 yr old and the 20 yr old are both consenting adults. Why would anyone care? The author of the article sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder.

Says the skank who is a wannabe sugar baby. Yo, if you don't understand why this irks a lot of people, you are a serious moron.


Fcuck. You.
 
2013-01-25 07:44:41 PM  
Just to clear my position up a little, I do not think all women are whores or all old men are pervs. It just happened to be true in the case of the two individuals about which I was talking.
Do I think women who prostitute themselves are whores? um... by definition, yes they are. Do I think men who procure the prostitute's services are pervs? yep, sure do
 
2013-01-25 07:46:25 PM  

LazerFish: Just to clear my position up a little, I do not think all women are whores or all old men are pervs. It just happened to be true in the case of the two individuals about which I was talking.
Do I think women who prostitute themselves are whores? um... by definition, yes they are. Do I think men who procure the prostitute's services are pervs? yep, sure do


Why does fulfilling a desire for sex make one a "perv"?
 
2013-01-25 07:47:15 PM  
I should qualify that: Why does fulfilling a desire for sex with another consenting adult under mutually agreed upon terms make one a "perv"?
 
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