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2013-01-25 02:24:25 PM

oldfarthenry: Sugar bum, sugar bum-bum
Sugar bum, sugar bum-bum
Sugar bum, sugar bum-bum


Haven't seen a Lord Kitchener lyric here for quite a while. +1!
 
2013-01-25 02:24:28 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: If receiving some degree of financial security in a relationship is prostitution, then likely 90% of all marriages are prostitution.


It's only prostitution if you go into it because you get financial security. If it's just a benefit of the relationship, then fine--you should get benefits from your relationships, or what's the point in having them?

Smeggy Smurf: As men we need to stick together and keep sluts like this in their place. On their back, collecting a paycheck for whoring. Anything else is empowering the evil ones that will destroy our fellow men.


Hey you guys started this with your porn worship, and saying that "doing porn is a legitimate business full of consenting adults!" and "porn stars shouldn't be ashamed of having sex on camera for money" and "Those women are all perfectly fine doing porn, and they're adults so it shouldn't be judged, just like I shouldn't be judged for looking at it for 12 hours a day!"

And now that it's all out in the open, and everybody can fark everybody else on Main Street for all the morality police care, you're still mad because now the women are out there openly farking for money, just like you wanted them to do.
 
2013-01-25 02:24:33 PM

WTF Indeed: Kazan: not sure if trolling, or just stupid.

Not trolling, not stupid. More a set up for the people that will come into the thread claiming we shouldn't call them whores because they are free to do what they want because it's empowering.


I had an ex-girlfriend like that. She didn't work while she was in college. We agreed that was her "job", but during the summer she didn't go to school and didn't work. She didn't help with the bills. She accused me of being "sexist" any time I asked that she maybe help with chores around the house. Yeah.
 
2013-01-25 02:27:59 PM

Lord Dimwit: WTF Indeed: Kazan: not sure if trolling, or just stupid.

Not trolling, not stupid. More a set up for the people that will come into the thread claiming we shouldn't call them whores because they are free to do what they want because it's empowering.

I had an ex-girlfriend like that. She didn't work while she was in college. We agreed that was her "job", but during the summer she didn't go to school and didn't work. She didn't help with the bills. She accused me of being "sexist" any time I asked that she maybe help with chores around the house. Yeah.


Oh man lol. That makes me think of a friend's sister who tried to sleep with me many times years ago. She called me sexist because I said I didn't want to be involved with her because she was a stripper.
 
2013-01-25 02:28:42 PM

cgraves67: WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.

I think a feminist would take issue with the idea that having sex with multiple partners is "degrading" for a young woman but status quo for a young man. I would imagine they would agree that the "for money" part is still bad.


Well, yes on the first, but no on the second--feminism is the idea that, no matter your gender, you should be able to do what you want, so while some feminists object to sex for money, it's actually a topic not covered by feminism.

/Feminist
//Someone  actually understood a basic point of feminism, holy farking shiat this is the best day ever.
 
2013-01-25 02:30:33 PM

ProfessorOhki: brap: That's odd, my financial advisor is usually extremely thorough but he didn't even bring up the "coed poon" facet of my retirement planning.

You should ask, he's probably got binders full of prospectuses on the shelf.


I thought Romney was the only one who kept binders full of women.
 
2013-01-25 02:33:14 PM

ignorotic: Lord Dimwit: WTF Indeed: Kazan: not sure if trolling, or just stupid.

Not trolling, not stupid. More a set up for the people that will come into the thread claiming we shouldn't call them whores because they are free to do what they want because it's empowering.

I had an ex-girlfriend like that. She didn't work while she was in college. We agreed that was her "job", but during the summer she didn't go to school and didn't work. She didn't help with the bills. She accused me of being "sexist" any time I asked that she maybe help with chores around the house. Yeah.

Oh man lol. That makes me think of a friend's sister who tried to sleep with me many times years ago. She called me sexist because I said I didn't want to be involved with her because she was a stripper.


Honestly, I'm more irritated with a girlfriend of a friend who calls my wife "sexist" for wanting to be a stay-at-home-mom. Apparently, to this person, feminism means doing what you want so long as it is non-traditional.

(Anyone listen to Nellie McKay? I enjoy a lot of her music, but she has one song where she talks about being married and having children like it's punishment, and another where she "jokingly" says feminists don't have a sense of humor, but it falls flat and comes out really whiny. Still, I enjoy most of her music quite a bit and, believe or not, am not actually sexist.)
 
2013-01-25 02:37:28 PM

Dr Dreidel: ThrobblefootSpectre: If receiving some degree of financial security in a relationship is prostitution, then likely 90% of all marriages are prostitution.

You realize men can benefit from this financial stability as well, right? The marriage deduction applies to their combined AGI, not just hers.



You realize I didn't refer to gender in any way whatsoever, and my statement applies to both men AND women, right?
 
2013-01-25 02:41:53 PM

Lord Dimwit: Honestly, I'm more irritated with a girlfriend of a friend who calls my wife "sexist" for wanting to be a stay-at-home-mom. Apparently, to this person, feminism means doing what you want so long as it is non-traditional.


Some people are feminists because they find the existing inequalities between men and women to be abhorrent and genuinely desire equal and fair social change.
Some people are "feminists" because they've figured out that they can use feminism to grab more power for themselves under the guise of "social justice".

Your friend's girlfriend sounds like one of the latter types.
 
2013-01-25 02:44:18 PM

ignorotic: You hit the nail on the head. The problem is that many men and women DO see marriage as simply financial security in exchange for sex, children, and housework. It makes me laugh when these people end up in a string of failed marriages and act so confused about why they can't make it work. Being with someone who is obviously with you for only selfish reasons and then being surprised that the person is selfish and it destroys the relationship is hilarious to me.


Yeah, to me dating isn't sex-in-exchange-for-getting-stuff which is how some of these women seemed to define it. I realize they can define dating how they want, but for me, there was a difference between wanting to sleep with a woman because she was hot, and wanting to spend time with a woman AND sleep with her because I was into her, specifically, as a person. I never referred to the former as dating. That was hooking up, getting laid, etc, regardless of how long it lasted. Dating implies a deeper connection on a personal level, at least to me. So when these women seem comfortable with the idea that this is "similar to dating" it tells me they have some issues with how they see their personal relationships, as "tit for tat" arrangements, much like you described.
 
2013-01-25 02:44:46 PM

LazerFish: Lexx: LazerFish: WhippingBoy: LazerFish: And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".

Why is it that we call old men who like younger women "pervs", but we call old women who like younger men "teachers"?

I don't blame the guy at all for it, its all on her. But really, I don't want to end up like him. He has kids older than her. He is older than both of her parents.If that isn't a little pervy what is? it is tantamount to pedophilia in my view.

It's only pedophilia if she's still maturing physically. She ain't, and it's not.

thats why i used the word "tantamount" meaning "having the same effect as"


You would still be incorrect. Attraction to a sexually mature female of child bearing age is not tantamount to pedophillia, which is considered a disorder. Biologically, there is noting incorrect about a 60+ year old male being attracted to a seually mature 16 year old. We discourage it socially due to the imbalance of power in that relationship, but it not a biological disorder.
 
2013-01-25 02:45:09 PM

QueenMamaBee: ProfessorOhki: brap: That's odd, my financial advisor is usually extremely thorough but he didn't even bring up the "coed poon" facet of my retirement planning.

You should ask, he's probably got binders full of prospectuses on the shelf.

I thought Romney was the only one who kept binders full of women.


Maybe he invests with Bain Capital.
 
2013-01-25 02:46:44 PM

Mouser: Kazan: WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.

not sure if trolling, or just stupid.

Neither, I'd say he hit the nail on the head here.


then you know as little about feminism as he does.
 
2013-01-25 02:50:55 PM
Its really just a black thing. These girls are brought on rap music and strip club culture and view their bodies as ways to get ahead while they still look good.
 
2013-01-25 02:51:04 PM

tricycleracer: LazerFish: As a guy who lost a gorgeous 24 year old girlfriend to a 58 year old guy on sugardaddyforme.com, I say fark these sites and anyone who uses them.
I told her it was prostitution, she didn't see it that way...

And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".

Rest easy knowing that she has lost track of how many times his wrinkly balls have been in her mouth.


Maybe I'm a freak of nature, but aren't *all* balls wrinkly? Mine have been for as long as I can remember...

/late 40 something who screws 20 somethings, so getting a kick
//not like TFA morons; ladies buy me dinner/drinks as often as not
///don't kiss their ass, and they'll kiss yours.
 
2013-01-25 02:53:48 PM

GRCooper: tricycleracer: LazerFish: As a guy who lost a gorgeous 24 year old girlfriend to a 58 year old guy on sugardaddyforme.com, I say fark these sites and anyone who uses them.
I told her it was prostitution, she didn't see it that way...

And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".

Rest easy knowing that she has lost track of how many times his wrinkly balls have been in her mouth.

Maybe I'm a freak of nature, but aren't *all* balls wrinkly? Mine have been for as long as I can remember...

/late 40 something who screws 20 somethings, so getting a kick
//not like TFA morons; ladies buy me dinner/drinks as often as not
///don't kiss their ass, and they'll kiss yours.

 
2013-01-25 02:54:30 PM

ProfessorOhki: GRCooper: tricycleracer: LazerFish: As a guy who lost a gorgeous 24 year old girlfriend to a 58 year old guy on sugardaddyforme.com, I say fark these sites and anyone who uses them.
I told her it was prostitution, she didn't see it that way...

And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".

Rest easy knowing that she has lost track of how many times his wrinkly balls have been in her mouth.

Maybe I'm a freak of nature, but aren't *all* balls wrinkly? Mine have been for as long as I can remember...

/late 40 something who screws 20 somethings, so getting a kick
//not like TFA morons; ladies buy me dinner/drinks as often as not
///don't kiss their ass, and they'll kiss yours.


Fark it, 403'd. It was Chapelle captioned "Smooth as eggs."
 
2013-01-25 02:55:10 PM

Lexx: MooseOnTheLoose: St_Francis_P: In a lot of cases, more like a mistress. You don't generally offer a prostitute dinner, a movie, long term support, housing etc.

This.

If he is paying your way and you are expected to be at his beck and call for what ever reason, sex, companionship, escorting, you're his mistress. It's a step up from street walking, and probably its probably safer.

Yup, that's straight-out mistress status.


Not necessarily. Mistress implies being the "other woman" for a married man. Article didn't mention any wife...


My guess is the general public just *really* doesn't like the idea that women might *unashamedly* exploit their body for financial gain.


Among other things, yes. In fact, prostitution was legal and considered normal until people realized prostitutes could afford to be independent. Can't have independent women running around, can you!
 
2013-01-25 02:57:21 PM

tricycleracer: When I was unemployed my girlfriend was still banging me.  I think she's a keeper.


Good on her, seriously :-)

I remember hearing several stories during the worst of the recession about people leaving their unemployed partners because they were out of work. I don't get that mentality (and, way to really kick a man while he's down, right?) My BF went through a long period of un- and under- employment and I never once considered leaving him. I figure we're in it for the long haul and every relationship goes through ups and downs eventually; hopefully that was the worst we'll go through!

As far as the article goes: consenting adults? I don't care. Not what I'd want for myself, I'm too stubbornly independent and would hate to waste all those years I spent developing a personality and interests.
 
2013-01-25 02:57:45 PM
Please- the term is "courtesan." Or "grande horizontale" if you feel like being fancy.
 
2013-01-25 02:58:11 PM

QueenMamaBee: ProfessorOhki: brap: That's odd, my financial advisor is usually extremely thorough but he didn't even bring up the "coed poon" facet of my retirement planning.

You should ask, he's probably got binders full of prospectuses on the shelf.

I thought Romney was the only one who kept binders full of women.


No, we all do that.

/mine's a binder full of post-its
//OK one post-it
 
2013-01-25 02:59:37 PM

Lord Dimwit: I had an ex-girlfriend like that. She didn't work while she was in college. We agreed that was her "job", but during the summer she didn't go to school and didn't work. She didn't help with the bills. She accused me of being "sexist" any time I asked that she maybe help with chores around the house. Yeah.


My buddy got married to a woman who is a self-proclaimed feminist. She went to Yale. She constantly talks about how women are just as smart and capable as men. She will use any potential opening in conversation to shoe-horn in feminist discussions, and goad people into arguments. Meanwhile, she has not had a job since graduating 8 years ago. They do not have children. She stays at home and tells him she is "trying to figure out the next phase of her life." She asks him to give her some tuition money to take some courses, and he said no, not until you know exactly what you want to do. This caused a firestorm of an argument that he was trying to "keep her at home and in 'her place' like a good wife." He said no, he just didn't want to spend a lot of money without having a clear understanding that she was not going to be a career student. After a few months of indecision she ended up getting pregnant and now all she talks about is how her place is in the home and a true feminist can accept the role of motherhood like any other career.
 
2013-01-25 03:02:59 PM

ignorotic: Southern100: ignorotic: Southern100: Meet woman at bar, go out to dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - legal.
Meet woman at bar, give her the money you WOULD have spent on dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - illegal.

WTF? The only difference is who gets the money. As far as the guy is concerned, it's still spent either way.

I may be getting trolled, but...these girls would have ZERO interest in a poor old man. A "real" date is more than just your desire for sex and her desire for money. If you've never gone on a date for any reason other than trying to get laid, I feel very sorry for you.

I wouldn't know - my wife and I have been married for 25 years.. but we have 2 teenage daughters with lots of friends, and the stories we hear make my hair stand on end.

But no, I wasn't trolling you; just stating a fact - that a girl/guy can hook up at a bar, online (match.com, PoF, etc.), or just meet in a library, go out to dinner and have sex, and nobody says anything about it.. but pick up a "prostitute" at a bar and give her the money you WOULD have spent on dinner and have sex, and all of a sudden your breaking the law. As far as the guy is concerned, he's still spending $100 or whatever, the only difference is who gets the money.

And if you don't think that guys & girls go to bars for the explicit reason of "hooking up", then I don't know what to tell ya.

First off, once again, I never denied casual sex exists, I never spoke out against it, I never said it should be illegal. Second, I don't need my morality legislated. I would be fine with legalized prostitution if they could get the sex traffic situation under control first. I don't care what people do for sex, as long as no one is being forced into a situation. But if you can't grasp the difference between buying a girl a drink or asking her to dinner and paying a prostitute, we are never going to see eye to eye on this.


I'M not making the distinction - I'm just pointing out that the LAW makes that distinction. Whether you agree with it or not, the guy is paying "money for sex".

My personal feelings about "casual sex" are not relevant to the conversation.
 
2013-01-25 03:06:51 PM
can't get the jingle out of my head :"sugar babies...real milk caramel...sugar babies"
 
2013-01-25 03:15:16 PM
CSB:

Lived in a college town a few years back, and due to a medical need (I often get thirsty), I became friends with several female bartenders/waitresses and, through them, their collegs student friends.

Knew 2 girls with relationships with much older me (55+). One who had a 'regular' boyfriend, but spent a weekend a month with sugardaddy. The other girls considered her a whore.

The other had all her bills paid, including rent, by her "sugardaddy", but since she was monogamous, they were ok with it. When she hooked up at a party with a frat boy once, she was ostracized as quickly as if she'd cheated on a 'regular' boyfriend.

Not making a point other than how college girls can view thses kind of relationships

/he was a handmedown sugardaddy too - she was introduced to him after his previous mistress graduated and left town
//this kind of stuff happens much more than most realize
 
2013-01-25 03:16:02 PM

cryinoutloud: Hey you guys started this with your porn worship, and saying that "doing porn is a legitimate business full of consenting adults!" and "porn stars shouldn't be ashamed of having sex on camera for money" and "Those women are all perfectly fine doing porn, and they're adults so it shouldn't be judged, just like I shouldn't be judged for looking at it for 12 hours a day!"

And now that it's all out in the open, and everybody can fark everybody else on Main Street for all the morality police care, you're still mad because now the women are out there openly farking for money, just like you wanted them to do.


Who said anything about porn? I'm advocating keeping sluts as sluts and not wives.
 
2013-01-25 03:19:12 PM

ignorotic: But if you can't grasp the difference between buying a girl a drink or asking her to dinner and paying a prostitute, we are never going to see eye to eye on this.


Southern100: I'M not making the distinction - I'm just pointing out that the LAW makes that distinction. Whether you agree with it or not, the guy is paying "money for sex".


Sorry to jump in midstream on your back-and-forth with this, but I think it's an interesting point. What is the distinction? That is to say, I admit there *is* a difference (in the law or our own minds), but what exactly is it?

If I go to the bar with the goal of picking up a woman and getting laid, and in the process I buy her a few drinks, dinner, etc, then spending money on this woman contributed to me getting laid. Now suppose I go to the same bar, ask to buy the woman a drink and she says, "Let's not waste each other's time. $100, we go back to your place and I bang you." The only difference here is in the woman's motivation, isn't it? In both scenarios the guy is after one thing: sex. He gets it in both examples. He spends money in both examples. Does the fact that his spending is less direct in one example, even though intended for the same purpose, make it any better? How about the woman? Is it her motivation that makes it less palatable? Are prostitution laws simply antiquated in the sense that they assume the only way a single man will get laid is through payment to immoral women?
 
2013-01-25 03:23:47 PM

MycroftHolmes: LazerFish: Lexx: LazerFish: WhippingBoy: LazerFish: And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".

Why is it that we call old men who like younger women "pervs", but we call old women who like younger men "teachers"?

I don't blame the guy at all for it, its all on her. But really, I don't want to end up like him. He has kids older than her. He is older than both of her parents.If that isn't a little pervy what is? it is tantamount to pedophilia in my view.

It's only pedophilia if she's still maturing physically. She ain't, and it's not.

thats why i used the word "tantamount" meaning "having the same effect as"

You would still be incorrect. Attraction to a sexually mature female of child bearing age is not tantamount to pedophillia, which is considered a disorder. Biologically, there is noting incorrect about a 60+ year old male being attracted to a seually mature 16 year old. We discourage it socially due to the imbalance of power in that relationship, but it not a biological disorder.


ok, well then, it's just completely disgusting and stupid... in my opinion
 
2013-01-25 03:28:48 PM

Mad_Radhu: Area resident Helen Crandall, 44, was arrested by Akron police Sunday, charged with conducting an elaborate "sex for security" scam in which she allegedly defrauded husband Russell Crandall out of nearly $230,000 in cash, food, clothing and housing over the past 19 years using periodic offers of sexual intercourse.


Damn - I had hopes for just a minute there of sending this to my wife.
 
2013-01-25 03:29:09 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Who said anything about porn? I'm advocating keeping sluts as sluts and not wives.


That's just it. The vast majority of men make a huge distinction between "farking material" and "marriage material".

For example, I discovered my cohabitant ex-girlfriend was promiscuous and had actually taken money for sex straight-up. If I would have never gotten into a really serious relationship (with talk of marriage) had I known this.

But, for other men, that might be just fine. To each his own. I'm sure that particular deal-breaker (i.e., prostitution) makes me seem like I'm from the 1950's to certain women. That's fine. Everyone has their own opinions and I'm not trying to push mine on anyone to begin with.
 
2013-01-25 03:30:31 PM

bighairyguy: xynix: Sounds like a wife to me..

iq_in_binary: Meh, more like a concubine.

What's the difference between a wife and a concubine?  Concubines don't do windows.


Wives don't do their husbands.
 
2013-01-25 03:37:05 PM
Lord Dimwit: "(Anyone listen to Nellie McKay? I enjoy a lot of her music, but she has one song where she talks about being married and having children like it's punishment, and another where she 'jokingly' says feminists don't have a sense of humor, but it falls flat and comes out really whiny. Still, I enjoy most of her music quite a bit and, believe or not, am not actually sexist.)"

I'm a big Nellie McKay fan but I can see your point about her attitude toward marriage/children, though I also suspect she's only trying to say that one size doesn't fit all in terms of what womyn want. And let's face it, who really knows the answer to that question?

Actually, I've been to a couple of McKay's concerts and she always puts on a great show. I heard her once tell an audience that she supports gay marriage because studies show the happiest people are married men and single women. After one gig, I arranged to do a telephone interview with her and spent an hour talking with the lady. Among her other answers to my questions, there was this:

"... When Fran Lebowitz talks about the gays fighting for marriage and the right to be in the military, I guess it's kind of ironic because, she said, back when she was fighting for freedom, they were fighting for actual freedom, whereas marriage and the military ... are things that curtail your liberty."

\CSB?
 
2013-01-25 03:37:26 PM
live.drjays.com
 
2013-01-25 03:37:50 PM

Ro_thunder: Wives don't do their husbands.


Sorry to hear about your marriage.
 
2013-01-25 03:41:17 PM
bighairyguy:
xynix: Sounds like a wife to me..

iq_in_binary: Meh, more like a concubine.

What's the difference between a wife and a concubine?  Concubines don't do windows.


No kidding, but after a few kernel tweaks mine runs Gentoo like a charm.
 
2013-01-25 03:41:51 PM

LazerFish: ok, well then, it's just completely disgusting and stupid... in my opinion


You are entitled to your opinion. I will be curious if you still feel the same way when you are 60+.
 
2013-01-25 03:43:31 PM

Philimus: Lord Dimwit: "(Anyone listen to Nellie McKay? I enjoy a lot of her music, but she has one song where she talks about being married and having children like it's punishment, and another where she 'jokingly' says feminists don't have a sense of humor, but it falls flat and comes out really whiny. Still, I enjoy most of her music quite a bit and, believe or not, am not actually sexist.)"

I'm a big Nellie McKay fan but I can see your point about her attitude toward marriage/children, though I also suspect she's only trying to say that one size doesn't fit all in terms of what womyn want. And let's face it, who really knows the answer to that question?

Actually, I've been to a couple of McKay's concerts and she always puts on a great show. I heard her once tell an audience that she supports gay marriage because studies show the happiest people are married men and single women. After one gig, I arranged to do a telephone interview with her and spent an hour talking with the lady. Among her other answers to my questions, there was this:

"... When Fran Lebowitz talks about the gays fighting for marriage and the right to be in the military, I guess it's kind of ironic because, she said, back when she was fighting for freedom, they were fighting for actual freedom, whereas marriage and the military ... are things that curtail your liberty."

\CSB?


While she may have been saying that "one size doesn't fit all" she talked about having marriage and children very derisively, like choosing to do that was wrong or stupid. I have all of her albums and have seen her live once or twice, but there are a couple of songs I just can't listen to. Same with Ani's work.

/ listen to Ani and Nellie
// agree with them almost all the time
/// straight white male
//// apparently, I'm the problem with the world
 
2013-01-25 03:44:05 PM
One of my favorite Onion articles.

Housewife charged in sex for security scam
 
2013-01-25 03:44:13 PM

MycroftHolmes: LazerFish: ok, well then, it's just completely disgusting and stupid... in my opinion

You are entitled to your opinion. I will be curious if you still feel the same way when you are 60+.


It's not the guy i'm disgusted with
 
2013-01-25 03:45:41 PM

jigger: [live.drjays.com image 260x233]


That old man was trolling strip clubs looking for young, big titted blondes to bang, so let's not paint him aa a poor, defenseless old man that was taken advantaged of.
 
2013-01-25 03:47:33 PM

LazerFish: MycroftHolmes: LazerFish: ok, well then, it's just completely disgusting and stupid... in my opinion

You are entitled to your opinion. I will be curious if you still feel the same way when you are 60+.

It's not the guy i'm disgusted with


Ahhh, well. Studies have shown that women are attracted to power and security, while men are attracted to physical beauty. Seems like May-December relationships fit both needs pretty well. 20 to 70 may be stretching the point, but to each their own. 60 to 25 wouldn't really freak me out too much.
 
2013-01-25 03:47:37 PM

fireclown: tom baker's scarf: Came here to say this, obviously. Leaving happy.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 450x450]
Peri was something, but my heart will always be with Leela.


Couldn't they find anyone hot to be The Doctor's companion back then?\
 
2013-01-25 03:48:20 PM

cookiefleck: jigger: [live.drjays.com image 260x233]

That old man was trolling strip clubs looking for young, big titted blondes to bang, so let's not paint him aa a poor, defenseless old man that was taken advantaged of.


What are you talking about, that guy is a hero.
 
2013-01-25 03:52:47 PM

cookiefleck: jigger: [live.drjays.com image 260x233]

That old man was trolling strip clubs looking for young, big titted blondes to bang, so let's not paint him aa a poor, defenseless old man that was taken advantaged of.


I don't think anyone painted him as a defenceless old man.
 
2013-01-25 03:58:01 PM
more people painted her as a golddigging trollop than him a old perv.
 
2013-01-25 03:58:10 PM
Lord Dimwit: "//// apparently, I'm the problem with the world"

Oh I agree with you about McKay and wasn't trying to white knight for her or anything. I think the feminist song you have in mind is "Mother of Pearl" and it isn't one of my favorites either. But to be honest, she's done others that are even more derisive of male/female relationships. At the same time, I find many of her songs beautiful and her lyrics clever and funny. "Food," for instance, always lifts my spirits, and "Old Enough" is quite touching in its own way.

You're actually way better than I am, because I can't even stand to listen to Ani DiFranco at all. Years ago I heard her singing "Pretty Girl" on the radio and almost had to shove an ice pick into my eardrums afterward.

Speaking of womyn musicians, have you ever heard any Dory Previn or Cindy Lee Berryhill? Previn, in particular, did some amazing stuff. She often sounded batshiat crazy but she was also a helluva songwriter.
 
2013-01-25 04:02:50 PM
If someone is sucking wrinkly-old-man cock to attend a second-tier school like NYU they really just enjoy sucking wrinkly-old-man cock.
 
2013-01-25 04:05:44 PM
Same age as the dude's kids, and she got almost the entire estate.

Barbara Piasecka Johnson
 
2013-01-25 04:09:41 PM

cookiefleck: more people painted her as a golddigging trollop than him a old perv.


Do I think either of them are doing anything wrong? No.

Do I think she's a whore AND he's a creepy old perv who uses prostitutes? Yes.
 
2013-01-25 04:10:21 PM
If I'm dating, I'll usually pay for the first date and every now and then I'll treat the girl to dinner somewhere nice or maybe put in extra. Usually though, the girls I'm dating will want to pay their way. From the second date onwards they insist on paying their share, or doing a 'you pay for this date, I'll pay for the next' type deal.

I've been told by other guys that I need to be spending more on my dates if I want them to stick around. There are plenty of guys that believe that it's the mans duty to lay down money in order to keep the woman interested. It was suggested as being the real reason for me and one particular girl splitting up. They couldn't understand the problem with trying to keep a woman interested by paying for everything. They might as well just get a sugar baby because at least there it's a sort of unspoken agreement.

Me personally I'll stick to girls who give a crap about me, not the size of my wallet. Granted I don't get as much action as the guys who flash their cash but I'm OK with that.

/Sometimes way, way less action
//Pretty sure my junk hates me
 
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