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2013-01-25 01:45:19 PM  

LazerFish: As a guy who lost a gorgeous 24 year old girlfriend to a 58 year old guy on sugardaddyforme.com, I say fark these sites and anyone who uses them.
I told her it was prostitution, she didn't see it that way...

And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".


That sucks, man. I feel for you, but at least you found out her character while she was "just" your girlfriend.
 
2013-01-25 01:45:48 PM  

Tom_Slick: I guess my fiance could be considered a Sugar Baby, I'm 38 she's 19, oh well if it works great if it doesn't almost all my assets are in a trust for my 6 year old daughter anyway. (Result of my late wife's estate)

/She also has no problem with a pre-nup her idea actually




Regardless of the pre-nup (which is fine), I'd be more weary of when she turns 21 and wants to stay out and party all the time. You think you can keep up with that?
 
2013-01-25 01:46:15 PM  

LazerFish: And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".


Why is it that we call old men who like younger women "pervs", but we call old women who like younger men "teachers"?
 
2013-01-25 01:46:21 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: I knew a lot of women who went on a date because they were hungry.

"Unless I really, really get hungry, I never want to see you again, Harry."


After my gf and I broke up, she'd call when she was hungry at night.

Is trading fast food for sex considered prostitution?
 
2013-01-25 01:46:34 PM  

IAMTHEINTARWEBS: Tom_Slick: I guess my fiance could be considered a Sugar Baby, I'm 38 she's 19, oh well if it works great if it doesn't almost all my assets are in a trust for my 6 year old daughter anyway. (Result of my late wife's estate)

/She also has no problem with a pre-nup her idea actually

It can work. I knew a couple that were together for 35 years until his death. He was 22 yrs older than her and they were very happy together. They have normal kids and grandkids so it does work.


I also know a married couple with a rather wide age gap: he is in his late sixties and she is in her mid-forties. They have a ten-year-old daughter and are very realistic about their situation. They have all the right kinds of insurance and are actually making plans right now for her and their daughter's lives after he passes on. They even had the talk about "yes, I want you to remarry." I thought it was weird that all this came up in a normal conversation, but I guess it shows that they have a solid relationship. Also, thinking back on it, I wonder if she was hitting on me?

/ nah
 
2013-01-25 01:46:47 PM  

LazerFish: As a guy who lost a gorgeous 24 year old girlfriend to a 58 year old guy on sugardaddyforme.com, I say fark these sites and anyone who uses them.
I told her it was prostitution, she didn't see it that way...

And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".


When the only thing that was preventing your girlfriend from trading sexual favors for money was "she didn't know it was legal & easy to do", I think she might not have been such a gem to begin with.
 
2013-01-25 01:47:09 PM  

LazerFish: As a guy who lost a gorgeous 24 year old girlfriend to a 58 year old guy on sugardaddyforme.com, I say fark these sites and anyone who uses them.
I told her it was prostitution, she didn't see it that way...

And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".


Rest easy knowing that she has lost track of how many times his wrinkly balls have been in her mouth.
 
2013-01-25 01:47:58 PM  
If receiving some degree of financial security in a relationship is prostitution, then likely 90% of all marriages are prostitution.
 
2013-01-25 01:48:11 PM  

tricycleracer: rufus-t-firefly: "I am really strict with my sexual partners," Phillips says, "and this is a monogamous relationship."

LOL.

Yeah, exactly.  Like she's not getting plowed by the Columbia rowing team on a regular basis.


Well, that's not a "relationship."

Her relationship is monogamous. Her side-dick from guys who can maintain erections doesn't count as it's not part of a financial transaction relationship.
 
2013-01-25 01:48:17 PM  

MycroftHolmes: ignorotic: Southern100: Meet woman at bar, go out to dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - legal.
Meet woman at bar, give her the money you WOULD have spent on dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - illegal.

WTF? The only difference is who gets the money. As far as the guy is concerned, it's still spent either way.

I may be getting trolled, but...these girls would have ZERO interest in a poor old man. A "real" date is more than just your desire for sex and her desire for money. If you've never gone on a date for any reason other than trying to get laid, I feel very sorry for you.

So, emotionless hookups for mutual satisfaction should be outlawed as well? Only dates as a precursor to relationships should be allowed?


Wow, working out on that Jump to Conclusions Mat, eh? Let me reiterate: If you've never gone on a date for any other reason than to get laid, I feel sorry for you. I never said ban casual sex. I never said you should ALWAYS be emotionally attached to someone you are casually dating, I never said there was a single thing wrong with casual sex. In other words, I feel sorry for someone who has never had more of an attachment to a woman other than the desire for sex.
 
2013-01-25 01:48:30 PM  
But Phillips-who wasn't yet born when Nirvana's Nevermind was first released

tubbotwins.files.wordpress.com
So, baby chasing a dollar (boy but whatever).

Smells Like Teen Spirit <- stop giggling
In Bloom <- or no money
Come As You Are <- at his age?
Breed <- with grandkids older?
Territorial Pissings <- that's for the young bucks, he's just saving his incontinence for home
Drain You <- that's understood right?
Lounge Act <- impressive isn't she
Stay Away <- don't listen to your ex wife
 
2013-01-25 01:49:10 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: LazerFish: As a guy who lost a gorgeous 24 year old girlfriend to a 58 year old guy on sugardaddyforme.com, I say fark these sites and anyone who uses them.
I told her it was prostitution, she didn't see it that way...

And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".

That sucks, man. I feel for you, but at least you found out her character while she was "just" your girlfriend.


yeah, i got everything they got, but for free, so I can't complain too much ha ha. After a year or so of going from guy to guy on that site, she suddenly found religion and became super christian, so yeah, I dodged a bullet there.
 
2013-01-25 01:49:58 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: tricycleracer: rufus-t-firefly: "I am really strict with my sexual partners," Phillips says, "and this is a monogamous relationship."

LOL.

Yeah, exactly.  Like she's not getting plowed by the Columbia rowing team on a regular basis.

Well, that's not a "relationship."

Her relationship is monogamous. Her side-dick from guys who can maintain erections doesn't count as it's not part of a financial transaction relationship.


"I'm faithful to him.  I don't let anyone else buy me presents."
 
2013-01-25 01:50:37 PM  

tricycleracer: LazerFish: As a guy who lost a gorgeous 24 year old girlfriend to a 58 year old guy on sugardaddyforme.com, I say fark these sites and anyone who uses them.
I told her it was prostitution, she didn't see it that way...

And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".

Rest easy knowing that she has lost track of how many times his wrinkly balls have been in her mouth.


But there's a bonus for her - she doesn't have to be anywhere near his asshole for him to teabag her.

/low-hanging fruit
 
2013-01-25 01:50:52 PM  
Ahh, this argument again.

The fault is of the economy. It is easier (for a limited number of women) to find guys willing to pay for their life style in exchange for certain benefits, than to go out and find a job that will give them enough money to live. Sorry Walmart, your 16 hours a week max won't support anyone, especially since you shift hours around to make it impossible for someone to have a second job. It really sucks when the only options are to be 'on the street' or 'on the street with a few bucks in your pocket but not enough to put a roof over your head.'
 
2013-01-25 01:51:15 PM  

brap: That's odd, my financial advisor is usually extremely thorough but he didn't even bring up the "coed poon" facet of my retirement planning.


You should ask, he's probably got binders full of prospectuses on the shelf.
 
2013-01-25 01:51:26 PM  

WTF Indeed: Kazan: not sure if trolling, or just stupid.

Not trolling, not stupid. More a set up for the people that will come into the thread claiming we shouldn't call them whores because they are free to do what they want because it's empowering.


Well if you think these women are whores then basically any relationship between a man and woman (even marriage) means the woman is a whore.

Why do women marry? Financial security for herself and her off-spring. In other words...money.

The women in the article are no more whores and prostitutes than a stay-at-home wife is.
 
2013-01-25 01:52:53 PM  
And I'm a social loser for spending my twenties home alone playing computer games rather than chasing skanks just as happy to do a mummy for money as date a real person?

Meh, consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want for whatever they need as long as it doesn't bother anyone else. Let the skanks roam free.
 
2013-01-25 01:53:09 PM  
Some girls seem to find out early
How to open doors with just a smile
A rich old man, she won't have to worry,
He dress her in the latest going style.


Yes, Don did have that right.
 
2013-01-25 01:54:24 PM  
Close2TheEdge: "How about this? Who gives a fark? If the woman is not being abused, is benefiting financially and is comfortable with the arrangement, then farking leave well enough alone. Don't we have far bigger problems in this country than worrying about whether two consenting adults are farking for love, or money? Or maybe it's love of money. The point is, I don't care and so shouldn't anybody else."

Hmm, sounds like a normal, non-judgmental, thoroughly reasonable approach. Are you sure you want to be commenting here on fark?

In the immortal words of the lovely and talented Kelly Bundy, "We're all liars and you're all idiots. The prostitution rests."
 
2013-01-25 01:56:00 PM  

jlawn001: Do they still make those candies?
How could they be sooo good, and the sugar daddy, so... unappealing?


It's nature's way.
 
2013-01-25 01:56:16 PM  
Hmmm. I think the telling part is not how these women view "Sugar Babying" but how they view traditional dating. For them, it IS the same, because dating is about trading their physical assets for social and material benefit. They should be equally legal.

Women with healthier views on relationships don't treat dating like this, but of course they're not the ones that are going to go for a Sugar Daddy.

And yes, feminism is about making sure women can choose their own fate. It explicitly allows them to be self sufficient or degrade themselves for money without requiring them to do either.
 
2013-01-25 01:56:58 PM  

cookiefleck: The 60 yr old and the 20 yr old are both consenting adults. Why would anyone care? The author of the article sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder.


The gash is gaining experience in using her cootch for money and control. The poor bastard that gets marries this broad is going to be farked over by her until he's broke.

As men we need to stick together and keep sluts like this in their place. On their back, collecting a paycheck for whoring. Anything else is empowering the evil ones that will destroy our fellow men.
 
2013-01-25 01:58:56 PM  

Hagenhatesyouall: "Prostitute"?

It's 2013.

Society needs to quit being afraid of farking and accept the fact that the working girl performs a valuable, and therapeutic, service to society.


My first instinct towards prostitution is a libertarian one. Unfortunately, at least around where I live, so many of the so-called "prostitutes" are not here and selling themselves voluntarily.

Until we are able to solve human trafficking, I cannot in good conscience support legalized prostitution. And this is coming from a guy who otherwise supports all kinds of drug/vice decriminalization.
 
2013-01-25 01:59:08 PM  

ProfessorOhki: brap: That's odd, my financial advisor is usually extremely thorough but he didn't even bring up the "coed poon" facet of my retirement planning.

You should ask, he's probably got binders full of prospectuses on the shelf.


Niiiice.
 
2013-01-25 01:59:47 PM  

ignorotic: Southern100: Meet woman at bar, go out to dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - legal.
Meet woman at bar, give her the money you WOULD have spent on dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - illegal.

WTF? The only difference is who gets the money. As far as the guy is concerned, it's still spent either way.

I may be getting trolled, but...these girls would have ZERO interest in a poor old man. A "real" date is more than just your desire for sex and her desire for money. If you've never gone on a date for any reason other than trying to get laid, I feel very sorry for you.


I wouldn't know - my wife and I have been married for 25 years.. but we have 2 teenage daughters with lots of friends, and the stories we hear make my hair stand on end.

But no, I wasn't trolling you; just stating a fact - that a girl/guy can hook up at a bar, online (match.com, PoF, etc.), or just meet in a library, go out to dinner and have sex, and nobody says anything about it.. but pick up a "prostitute" at a bar and give her the money you WOULD have spent on dinner and have sex, and all of a sudden your breaking the law. As far as the guy is concerned, he's still spending $100 or whatever, the only difference is who gets the money.

And if you don't think that guys & girls go to bars for the explicit reason of "hooking up", then I don't know what to tell ya.
 
2013-01-25 01:59:54 PM  

WTF Indeed: LemSkroob: all women are whores. The only thing that changes are the terms of the contract.

Why do I get the feeling you have more than one ex-wife?


It's my second ex that really helped me put meaning into the phrase

Drop. Dead.

So I'm getting a kick
 
2013-01-25 02:00:09 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: If receiving some degree of financial security in a relationship is prostitution, then likely 90% of all marriages are prostitution.


Ssshhh! Quiet, you!
 
2013-01-25 02:00:14 PM  
"All men are pigs." "All women are whores."
That's the double-standard in a nutshell: same behavior, completely different moral judgement and social stigma.

Modern feminism isn't about vainly trying to pretend that women are above their animalistic instincts.
It's arguing that women serving their lizard brain shouldn't be any more or less stigmatized than men doing the same damn thing.
 
2013-01-25 02:00:31 PM  

ignorotic: MycroftHolmes: ignorotic: Southern100: Meet woman at bar, go out to dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - legal.
Meet woman at bar, give her the money you WOULD have spent on dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - illegal.

WTF? The only difference is who gets the money. As far as the guy is concerned, it's still spent either way.

I may be getting trolled, but...these girls would have ZERO interest in a poor old man. A "real" date is more than just your desire for sex and her desire for money. If you've never gone on a date for any reason other than trying to get laid, I feel very sorry for you.

So, emotionless hookups for mutual satisfaction should be outlawed as well? Only dates as a precursor to relationships should be allowed?

Wow, working out on that Jump to Conclusions Mat, eh? Let me reiterate: If you've never gone on a date for any other reason than to get laid, I feel sorry for you. I never said ban casual sex. I never said you should ALWAYS be emotionally attached to someone you are casually dating, I never said there was a single thing wrong with casual sex. In other words, I feel sorry for someone who has never had more of an attachment to a woman other than the desire for sex.



OK, so follow with me here. You were responding to someone who's argument was pointing out that it was legal to exchange goods for sex in one context, and illegal to do it in another context. Your counterargument was that the change in context was emotional attachment or intentions beyond sex. In order to illustrate the error in your logic, I pointed out that the logical extension of your statement would be to outlaw emotionless sex or sex not performed in a good faith effort to have a relationship. Now, it may be that you just didn't really understand the point that the original poster was making, or that you really weren't responding to him directly. But it sure sounded like you were saying that his first case was legal because it wasn't strictly about emotionally detached sex, while the second case was illegal because it was.
 
2013-01-25 02:01:06 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: If receiving some degree of financial security in a relationship is prostitution, then likely 90% of all marriages are prostitution.


You realize men can benefit from this financial stability as well, right? The marriage deduction applies to their combined AGI, not just hers.

// mom's been making more than dad for ~20 years
// there's love there as well, but the "stability" part comes more from her earnings than his
// I suppose that doesn't contradict you, just an implication I picked up
 
2013-01-25 02:01:58 PM  

udhq: Hagenhatesyouall: "Prostitute"?

It's 2013.

Society needs to quit being afraid of farking and accept the fact that the working girl performs a valuable, and therapeutic, service to society.

My first instinct towards prostitution is a libertarian one. Unfortunately, at least around where I live, so many of the so-called "prostitutes" are not here and selling themselves voluntarily.

Until we are able to solve human trafficking, I cannot in good conscience support legalized prostitution. And this is coming from a guy who otherwise supports all kinds of drug/vice decriminalization.


Well, you could make the same argument as made for drugs/drug violence, right? If a legal supply of prostitution becomes available, it will pull the floor out from underneath the black market, and make trafficking far less lucrative.
 
2013-01-25 02:05:45 PM  

Southern100: And if you don't think that guys & girls go to bars for the explicit reason of "hooking up", then I don't know what to tell ya.


What? I went for the music!

/Was I doing it wrong? DAMMIT!
 
2013-01-25 02:05:47 PM  

MycroftHolmes: ignorotic: MycroftHolmes: ignorotic: Southern100: Meet woman at bar, go out to dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - legal.
Meet woman at bar, give her the money you WOULD have spent on dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - illegal.

WTF? The only difference is who gets the money. As far as the guy is concerned, it's still spent either way.

I may be getting trolled, but...these girls would have ZERO interest in a poor old man. A "real" date is more than just your desire for sex and her desire for money. If you've never gone on a date for any reason other than trying to get laid, I feel very sorry for you.

So, emotionless hookups for mutual satisfaction should be outlawed as well? Only dates as a precursor to relationships should be allowed?

Wow, working out on that Jump to Conclusions Mat, eh? Let me reiterate: If you've never gone on a date for any other reason than to get laid, I feel sorry for you. I never said ban casual sex. I never said you should ALWAYS be emotionally attached to someone you are casually dating, I never said there was a single thing wrong with casual sex. In other words, I feel sorry for someone who has never had more of an attachment to a woman other than the desire for sex.


OK, so follow with me here. You were responding to someone who's argument was pointing out that it was legal to exchange goods for sex in one context, and illegal to do it in another context. Your counterargument was that the change in context was emotional attachment or intentions beyond sex. In order to illustrate the error in your logic, I pointed out that the logical extension of your statement would be to outlaw emotionless sex or sex not performed in a good faith effort to have a relationship. Now, it may be that you just didn't really understand the point that the original poster was making, or that you really weren't responding to him directly. But it sure sounded like you were saying that his first case was legal because it wasn't strictly ...


I can see how you came to that conclusion, my mistake. Trying to say going on a date with a girl is the same thing as prostitution is foolish, that was my point. I do believe prostitution should be legal, but like a previous poster already stated, there is a real human trafficking issue that needs to be addressed first.
 
2013-01-25 02:07:26 PM  
Sites like this may be criticized,  but activities like this go on everyday and these sites are just providing a safer venue.
 
Ral
2013-01-25 02:07:50 PM  

LemSkroob: all women are whores. The only thing that changes are the terms of the contract.


All men are hustlers. They want sex and in exchange they provide material wealth to women in some form. It's just that this is considered "ok" but the women's side of the trade is considered "whoring".
 
2013-01-25 02:08:31 PM  
I think a lot of people who criticize women for having these arrangements with older men do so mainly because of the way women rationalize the entire thing, and not really due to the act itself. In other words, it's no so much the act but what I'll call the "you're-not-fooling-anyone" principle. If a woman were to come right out and say, "Yes, it's essentially prostitution disguised as dating. So what?" That kind-of settles it then, doesn't it? If the women instead starts into all this crap about how it's "similar to dating, and it's more about the companionship", that's when some people feel the overwhelming desire to debate it. "Oh, come on! You're banging him for the money! Just admit it! You're a whore!"
 
2013-01-25 02:08:41 PM  
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2013-01-25 02:08:52 PM  

WhippingBoy: LazerFish: And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".

Why is it that we call old men who like younger women "pervs", but we call old women who like younger men "teachers"?


I don't blame the guy at all for it, its all on her. But really, I don't want to end up like him. He has kids older than her. He is older than both of her parents.If that isn't a little pervy what is? it is tantamount to pedophilia in my view.
 
2013-01-25 02:09:56 PM  

tom baker's scarf: Came here to say this, obviously. Leaving happy.


2.bp.blogspot.com
Peri was something, but my heart will always be with Leela.
 
2013-01-25 02:10:11 PM  
 
2013-01-25 02:10:47 PM  

LazerFish: WhippingBoy: LazerFish: And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".

Why is it that we call old men who like younger women "pervs", but we call old women who like younger men "teachers"?

I don't blame the guy at all for it, its all on her. But really, I don't want to end up like him. He has kids older than her. He is older than both of her parents.If that isn't a little pervy what is? it is tantamount to pedophilia in my view.


It's only pedophilia if she's still maturing physically. She ain't, and it's not.
 
2013-01-25 02:11:13 PM  

Southern100: ignorotic: Southern100: Meet woman at bar, go out to dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - legal.
Meet woman at bar, give her the money you WOULD have spent on dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - illegal.

WTF? The only difference is who gets the money. As far as the guy is concerned, it's still spent either way.

I may be getting trolled, but...these girls would have ZERO interest in a poor old man. A "real" date is more than just your desire for sex and her desire for money. If you've never gone on a date for any reason other than trying to get laid, I feel very sorry for you.

I wouldn't know - my wife and I have been married for 25 years.. but we have 2 teenage daughters with lots of friends, and the stories we hear make my hair stand on end.

But no, I wasn't trolling you; just stating a fact - that a girl/guy can hook up at a bar, online (match.com, PoF, etc.), or just meet in a library, go out to dinner and have sex, and nobody says anything about it.. but pick up a "prostitute" at a bar and give her the money you WOULD have spent on dinner and have sex, and all of a sudden your breaking the law. As far as the guy is concerned, he's still spending $100 or whatever, the only difference is who gets the money.

And if you don't think that guys & girls go to bars for the explicit reason of "hooking up", then I don't know what to tell ya.


First off, once again, I never denied casual sex exists, I never spoke out against it, I never said it should be illegal. Second, I don't need my morality legislated. I would be fine with legalized prostitution if they could get the sex traffic situation under control first. I don't care what people do for sex, as long as no one is being forced into a situation. But if you can't grasp the difference between buying a girl a drink or asking her to dinner and paying a prostitute, we are never going to see eye to eye on this.
 
2013-01-25 02:11:37 PM  

themasterdebater: Southern100: And if you don't think that guys & girls go to bars for the explicit reason of "hooking up", then I don't know what to tell ya.

What? I went for the music!

/Was I doing it wrong? DAMMIT!


But the point of the game is to get laid while spending as little as possible.  If you close the deal with negative spending, you're doing it right.

/Went negative twice.
//Proud days for me.
 
2013-01-25 02:13:57 PM  

Rapmaster2000: WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.

8/10. This hook will be swallowed.


Sex Positive Feminism; there is some non troll value there
 
2013-01-25 02:16:27 PM  

fireclown: but my heart will always be with Leela.


At thee, varlet!
 
2013-01-25 02:16:59 PM  
some girls give jewelry, others buy me clothes. some girls give me children I never asked them for.

some girls take my money, some girls take my clothes. some girls take the shirt off my back and leave me with a lethal dose.
 
2013-01-25 02:17:28 PM  

Lexx: LazerFish: WhippingBoy: LazerFish: And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".

Why is it that we call old men who like younger women "pervs", but we call old women who like younger men "teachers"?

I don't blame the guy at all for it, its all on her. But really, I don't want to end up like him. He has kids older than her. He is older than both of her parents.If that isn't a little pervy what is? it is tantamount to pedophilia in my view.

It's only pedophilia if she's still maturing physically. She ain't, and it's not.


thats why i used the word "tantamount" meaning "having the same effect as"
 
2013-01-25 02:22:09 PM  

WinoRhino: I think a lot of people who criticize women for having these arrangements with older men do so mainly because of the way women rationalize the entire thing, and not really due to the act itself. In other words, it's no so much the act but what I'll call the "you're-not-fooling-anyone" principle. If a woman were to come right out and say, "Yes, it's essentially prostitution disguised as dating. So what?" That kind-of settles it then, doesn't it? If the women instead starts into all this crap about how it's "similar to dating, and it's more about the companionship", that's when some people feel the overwhelming desire to debate it. "Oh, come on! You're banging him for the money! Just admit it! You're a whore!"


You hit the nail on the head. The problem is that many men and women DO see marriage as simply financial security in exchange for sex, children, and housework. It makes me laugh when these people end up in a string of failed marriages and act so confused about why they can't make it work. Being with someone who is obviously with you for only selfish reasons and then being surprised that the person is selfish and it destroys the relationship is hilarious to me.
 
2013-01-25 02:23:27 PM  

fireclown: tom baker's scarf: Came here to say this, obviously. Leaving happy.


Peri was something, but my heart will always be with Leela.


Comment was more for the jelly babies than the companion but I completely support your point of view as well.

That said when it came to femal British characters Ms. Peel will always have my heart. If there is a heaven my version has the two of us (in her prime) and a lot of naughty-bad-fun time.
 
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