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(Gothamist)   These girls call themselves "sugar babies".............most other people prefer the old fashioned word that describes such girls: Prostitute   (gothamist.com) divider line 281
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2013-01-25 01:21:59 PM

bighairyguy: xynix: Sounds like a wife to me..

iq_in_binary: Meh, more like a concubine.

What's the difference between a wife and a concubine?  Concubines don't do windows.


And they're skilled in the Weirding Ways.

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2013-01-25 01:22:28 PM

WTF Indeed: Kazan: not sure if trolling, or just stupid.

Not trolling, not stupid. More a set up for the people that will come into the thread claiming we shouldn't call them whores because they are free to do what they want because it's empowering.


so both trolling AND stupid. gotcha.
 
2013-01-25 01:23:30 PM
As the meme says, "I'm ok with this".
 
2013-01-25 01:23:36 PM
It's a good bang for your buck.
 
2013-01-25 01:24:10 PM

Jim_Callahan: Yeah, the author of the article seems to be the one that's confused as to what prostitution entails. Legally, it's only if someone pays directly for a sexual act in cash, goods, or services. If the relationship goes beyond sex (like, you're hanging out on a regular basis) and the sex isn't directly tied to compensation (like, every blowjob results in one gram of meth or whatever) then it's not prostitution.

Buying shiat for the person you're sleeping with in general is just dating.


So, you can skirt the law by paying for companionship, with the implied understanding that if the sex stops, you will buy your companionship elsewhere? While that may pass legal muster, it is still, in principal, prostitution.
 
2013-01-25 01:24:23 PM

EnglishMan: MooseOnTheLoose: St_Francis_P: In a lot of cases, more like a mistress. You don't generally offer a prostitute dinner, a movie, long term support, housing etc.

This.

If he is paying your way and you are expected to be at his beck and call for what ever reason, sex, companionship, escorting, you're his mistress. It's a step up from street walking, and probably its probably safer.

Sounds like a prostitute that's on call. Mistress makes it sound like there's some affection there, as if she would be interested in a 70 year old who wasn't a millionaire.


I'd be more inclined to agree with you if the girls aren't monogamous. If they are I believe the proper term is Gold-digger.
 
2013-01-25 01:24:24 PM

unyon: If it flies, farks, or floats: Rent it.


This is now my life motto, thank you kind sir.
 
2013-01-25 01:24:45 PM
Hey, if someone was going to pay off all your credit cards and all you had to do was eat some dried up beef jerky, wouldn't you do it?
 
2013-01-25 01:24:56 PM

JohnAnnArbor: No equivalent service for male students, I take it?


Most young males hook up with old crones because they (the young males) are horny and the crones are giving it away for free. There's not a lot of forward planning going on in the mind of a young man.
 
2013-01-25 01:25:06 PM

cgraves67: WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.

I think a feminist would take issue with the idea that having sex with multiple partners is "degrading" for a young woman but status quo for a young man. I would imagine they would agree that the "for money" part is still bad.


I was under the impression that the current iteration of feminist thought views sex basically thus: "a woman can have sex with whomever she wants, whenever she wants, for any reason she wants, and not have her character judged differently than a man engaged in similar acts. Also, while a woman CAN do these things, such acts should never be expected, demanded, or implied, and whatever behavior she engages in, she should never be viewed as less than a complete human being worthy of respect".
 
2013-01-25 01:25:33 PM

Tom_Slick: I guess my fiance could be considered a Sugar Baby, I'm 38 she's 19, oh well if it works great if it doesn't almost all my assets are in a trust for my 6 year old daughter anyway. (Result of my late wife's estate)

/She also has no problem with a pre-nup her idea actually


It can work. I knew a couple that were together for 35 years until his death. He was 22 yrs older than her and they were very happy together. They have normal kids and grandkids so it does work.
 
2013-01-25 01:27:02 PM
Honestly, I've got way more of a problem with the "daddy/baby" nomenclature than I am by the arrangement. It'd be hard to definitively separate this from a couple where one partner worked while the other went to school. I guess you could differentiate based on co-habitation, but that's not exactly a great standard.

I mean, c'mon, the terminology is just plain creepy.
 
2013-01-25 01:28:06 PM
I wish I made enough money to have my very own hot college coed. Or two.
 
2013-01-25 01:28:39 PM
Of course they understand the definition of prostitution. They avoid the term because it is illegal, not because they are delusional.
 
2013-01-25 01:28:49 PM
"Prostitute"?

It's 2013.

Society needs to quit being afraid of farking and accept the fact that the working girl performs a valuable, and therapeutic, service to society.
 
2013-01-25 01:28:55 PM
Sugar Babies?
24.media.tumblr.com

/Hot like Perri's chest
 
2013-01-25 01:29:47 PM
How about this? Who gives a fark? If the woman is not being abused, is benefiting financially and is comfortable with the arrangement, then farking leave well enough alone. Don't we have far bigger problems in this country than worrying about whether two consenting adults are farking for love, or money? Or maybe it's love of money. The point is, I don't care and so shouldn't anybody else.
 
2013-01-25 01:29:49 PM

IAMTHEINTARWEBS: It can work. I knew a couple that were together for 35 years until his death. He was 22 yrs older than her and they were very happy together. They have normal kids and grandkids so it does work.


I hope it does, just worry because she is young and may wake up one day and wonder why she is with some old guy. we talk about it she doesn't see age as an issue. On a plus side she does provide motivation to go to the gym 6 days a week.
 
2013-01-25 01:30:54 PM
So what? They found a whore they could kiss.
 
2013-01-25 01:31:07 PM

Lexx: cgraves67: WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.

I think a feminist would take issue with the idea that having sex with multiple partners is "degrading" for a young woman but status quo for a young man. I would imagine they would agree that the "for money" part is still bad.

I was under the impression that the current iteration of feminist thought views sex basically thus: "a woman can have sex with whomever she wants, whenever she wants, for any reason she wants, and not have her character judged differently than a man engaged in similar acts. Also, while a woman CAN do these things, such acts should never be expected, demanded, or implied, and whatever behavior she engages in, she should never be viewed as less than a complete human being worthy of respect".


If that definition were accurate, those adhering to it would be up in arms that women teachers are treated so much more leniently when caught with a student. You probably need to change "not have her character judged differently than a man engaged in similar acts" to " not have her character judged more harshly than a man engaged in similar acts."
 
2013-01-25 01:32:08 PM
Meet woman at bar, go out to dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - legal.
Meet woman at bar, give her the money you WOULD have spent on dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - illegal.

WTF? The only difference is who gets the money. As far as the guy is concerned, it's still spent either way.
 
2013-01-25 01:32:41 PM

ProfessorOhki: Lexx: cgraves67: WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.

I think a feminist would take issue with the idea that having sex with multiple partners is "degrading" for a young woman but status quo for a young man. I would imagine they would agree that the "for money" part is still bad.

I was under the impression that the current iteration of feminist thought views sex basically thus: "a woman can have sex with whomever she wants, whenever she wants, for any reason she wants, and not have her character judged differently than a man engaged in similar acts. Also, while a woman CAN do these things, such acts should never be expected, demanded, or implied, and whatever behavior she engages in, she should never be viewed as less than a complete human being worthy of respect".

If that definition were accurate, those adhering to it would be up in arms that women teachers are treated so much more leniently when caught with a student. You probably need to change "not have her character judged differently than a man engaged in similar acts" to " not have her character judged more harshly than a man engaged in similar acts."


I'm an optimist.
 
2013-01-25 01:33:42 PM
If they're both up front about it, who cares?

My last relationship was built on her lies. In the end, that's a lot more destructive than this arrangement.
 
2013-01-25 01:34:02 PM
Enjoy the ride honey, your replacement just a financial aid rejection letter.
 
2013-01-25 01:34:28 PM
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2013-01-25 01:34:42 PM

ProfessorOhki: Lexx: cgraves67: WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.

I think a feminist would take issue with the idea that having sex with multiple partners is "degrading" for a young woman but status quo for a young man. I would imagine they would agree that the "for money" part is still bad.

I was under the impression that the current iteration of feminist thought views sex basically thus: "a woman can have sex with whomever she wants, whenever she wants, for any reason she wants, and not have her character judged differently than a man engaged in similar acts. Also, while a woman CAN do these things, such acts should never be expected, demanded, or implied, and whatever behavior she engages in, she should never be viewed as less than a complete human being worthy of respect".

If that definition were accurate, those adhering to it would be up in arms that women teachers are treated so much more leniently when caught with a student. You probably need to change "not have her character judged differently than a man engaged in similar acts" to " not have her character judged more harshly than a man engaged in similar acts."


I'd go on to say " not have her character judged," as I've known some people who consider any criticism of a woman, for any reason, to be misogyny.
 
2013-01-25 01:35:34 PM
When I was unemployed my girlfriend was still banging me.  I think she's a keeper.
 
2013-01-25 01:35:44 PM
I knew a lot of women who went on a date because they were hungry.

"Unless I really, really get hungry, I never want to see you again, Harry."
 
2013-01-25 01:35:50 PM
currently, there is an interesting documentary running on Netflix called "Whore's Glory"
https://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Whores%27%20Glory/70222627?trkid=4 3 8403

It depicts prostitute life in Thailand, Bangladesh and Mexico, day in the life style with straight objectivity.

It begins in Thailand in a fish tank style brothel where business is brisk and competitive. It then goes to Bangladesh in a red light district where life is extremely cheap, and high in degradation and despair. Mexico is depicted as a corrupt and dangerous, but you do get the feeling of the three, Mexican prostitutes seem to have most control over individual fate. Thai working girls are most 'business as usual', Bangladesh is straight out of Dante.
 
2013-01-25 01:35:55 PM

cookiefleck: The 60 yr old and the 20 yr old are both consenting adults. Why would anyone care? The author of the article sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder.


Because it is wrong, if we allow people to get away with such relationships where both partners are happy, mutually agree to a relationship, and are not obligated to get married for sex then where will it end!? Why, why next thing you know we will allow homosexuals to marry, adults will be farking turtles.

No, the only relationship that is allowed is the one sanctified by god through marriage with out the relief of divorce, got to protect the sanctity of marriage, and both people end up miserable.
 
2013-01-25 01:36:50 PM

you_idiot: It's a good bang for your buck.


If that's the exchange rate, sign me up!

/ More of a Nutrasweet Daddy than a Sugar Daddy
 
2013-01-25 01:37:14 PM
Hopefully I have the money to get that kind of setup going in my 60's+
 
2013-01-25 01:37:35 PM
"I am really strict with my sexual partners," Phillips says, "and this is a monogamous relationship."

LOL.
 
2013-01-25 01:37:51 PM

ShawnDoc: Sugar Babies?
[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x376]

/Hot like Perri's chest


Came here to say this, obviously. Leaving happy.
 
2013-01-25 01:37:59 PM

rustypouch: ProfessorOhki: Lexx: cgraves67: WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.

I think a feminist would take issue with the idea that having sex with multiple partners is "degrading" for a young woman but status quo for a young man. I would imagine they would agree that the "for money" part is still bad.

I was under the impression that the current iteration of feminist thought views sex basically thus: "a woman can have sex with whomever she wants, whenever she wants, for any reason she wants, and not have her character judged differently than a man engaged in similar acts. Also, while a woman CAN do these things, such acts should never be expected, demanded, or implied, and whatever behavior she engages in, she should never be viewed as less than a complete human being worthy of respect".

If that definition were accurate, those adhering to it would be up in arms that women teachers are treated so much more leniently when caught with a student. You probably need to change "not have her character judged differently than a man engaged in similar acts" to " not have her character judged more harshly than a man engaged in similar acts."

I'd go on to say " not have her character judged," as I've known some people who consider any criticism of a woman, for any reason, to be misogyny.


Judged by whom and in what capacity? As free-thinking human beings, we have a right to judge anyone for any reason. The problems seem to start when that internal judgement turns into negative actions...
 
2013-01-25 01:38:17 PM

rustypouch: I'd go on to say " not have her character judged," as I've known some people who consider any criticism of a woman, for any reason, to be misogyny.


I have found that many feminists want superiority, not equality because equality cuts both ways.
 
2013-01-25 01:38:29 PM
Note to self: Some women are whores, and more might live in NYC where the cost of living is higher.

Question: Would you date these old men if you had money to piss away?

Whore Answer: Well duh... no.

An older cougar, that was mighty attractive for her age, wanted to bang me for the simple fact of her not wanting "old balls", and she was in her mid-late 40's. I also knew FIT Students. They never work in fashion, unless it's retail.
 
2013-01-25 01:38:50 PM

rufus-t-firefly: "I am really strict with my sexual partners," Phillips says, "and this is a monogamous relationship."

LOL.


Yeah, exactly.  Like she's not getting plowed by the Columbia rowing team on a regular basis.
 
2013-01-25 01:39:07 PM

Southern100: Meet woman at bar, go out to dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - legal.
Meet woman at bar, give her the money you WOULD have spent on dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - illegal.

WTF? The only difference is who gets the money. As far as the guy is concerned, it's still spent either way.


I may be getting trolled, but...these girls would have ZERO interest in a poor old man. A "real" date is more than just your desire for sex and her desire for money. If you've never gone on a date for any reason other than trying to get laid, I feel very sorry for you.
 
2013-01-25 01:39:38 PM
I live on a college campus and I have money, where can I sign up?

I just have to convince the gf that if we pool our money together we could afford TWO instead of just one.
 
2013-01-25 01:39:40 PM

bighairyguy: Fashion Ins


It's actually a pretty large, prestigious school for people who want to go into that industry.

Although, I'd say 90% of the people who go there are rich girls who just love Gucci and other expensive brands and end up dropping out after a semester because the coursework is actually challenging and they have to learn about textiles, fabrics, design, etc. instead of just shopping and looking at magazines.
 
2013-01-25 01:39:54 PM

justanotherfarkinfarker: Hopefully I have the money to get that kind of setup going in my 60's+


My favorite story, probably not a true one, was the millionaire who left it in his will, and made it publicly known, that his estate would go to the last woman he slept with. He guaranteed not only quantity but quality as well (I think foul play was considered a disqualifier).
 
2013-01-25 01:40:49 PM

ignorotic: If you've never gone on a date for any reason other than trying to get laid, I feel very sorry for you. you're a guy.

FTFY
 
2013-01-25 01:40:54 PM
That's odd, my financial advisor is usually extremely thorough but he didn't even bring up the "coed poon" facet of my retirement planning.
 
2013-01-25 01:41:25 PM

QueenMamaBee: WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.

I was almost pissed off.... but sadly that has more than a slight bit of truth to it.


We should all have the power to do what we want to with our lives. Feminism aims to guarantee that power equally to women.

The sad thing is when what we choose to do with our power is degrade ourselves. That has nothing to do with feminism, and it should be equally sad no matter who is doing it.
 
2013-01-25 01:42:00 PM
Hell I paid plenty in dinners, tickets and rings, when I was young and hot.
I ain't paying for squat now that I'm old.
I ain't getting squat, but I sure as hell ain't paying for none.

And I don't have to put up with all that yakkin', neither.
/Adjusts onion.
 
2013-01-25 01:42:16 PM

ignorotic: Southern100: Meet woman at bar, go out to dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - legal.
Meet woman at bar, give her the money you WOULD have spent on dinner, dancing, movie, then have sex - illegal.

WTF? The only difference is who gets the money. As far as the guy is concerned, it's still spent either way.

I may be getting trolled, but...these girls would have ZERO interest in a poor old man. A "real" date is more than just your desire for sex and her desire for money. If you've never gone on a date for any reason other than trying to get laid, I feel very sorry for you.


So, emotionless hookups for mutual satisfaction should be outlawed as well? Only dates as a precursor to relationships should be allowed?
 
2013-01-25 01:43:44 PM
As a guy who lost a gorgeous 24 year old girlfriend to a 58 year old guy on sugardaddyforme.com, I say fark these sites and anyone who uses them.
I told her it was prostitution, she didn't see it that way...

And, honestly, I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, but still these sites suck. They turn normal girls into prostitutes by calling them "sugar babies" and "sugar daddies" instead of "hoes" and "pervs".
 
2013-01-25 01:44:21 PM

brap


That's odd, my financial advisor is usually extremely thorough but he didn't even bring up the "coed poon" facet of my retirement planning.


My friend, you need a new broker.


Broker? I just met her!
 
2013-01-25 01:45:08 PM

Kazan: WTF Indeed: Ah modern feminism. It's empowering to degrade yourself for money.

not sure if trolling, or just stupid.


Neither, I'd say he hit the nail on the head here.
 
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