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(Townhall)   Someone needs to apologize for the Phil Mickelson tax flap and it damn sure isn't Phil Mickelson   (townhall.com) divider line 142
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2013-01-25 09:32:19 AM
Good news is, he won't be making any money to tax this weekend. So he should be happy.
 
2013-01-25 09:37:01 AM
I've met  Mickelson.  He has plenty to apologize for.  Guy's an enormous douche in general.
 
2013-01-25 09:38:30 AM
First we have Obama and the Democrats riding roughshod over the GOP and enacting a 4.6% tax increase on the evil rich.

Kill yourself, Boortz. Or should I say, Faartz.
 
2013-01-25 09:39:31 AM
ObamaMedia

Hmm which well-known fark rugged "independents" were defending this ball-gargler the other day?
 
2013-01-25 09:40:18 AM
Phil Mickelson Tax Flap is my rock band name.
 
2013-01-25 10:06:34 AM
We have to help poor Phil Mickelson...if a pro golfer decides to Go Galt, can the America's Cup yachting team and those rich men who try to set hot-air ballooning records be far behind?
 
2013-01-25 10:29:40 AM
Is it Obama?  I bet they think it's Obama.
 
2013-01-25 10:35:18 AM

BunkoSquad: We have to help poor Phil Mickelson...if a pro golfer decides to Go Galt, can the America's Cup yachting team and those rich men who try to set hot-air ballooning records be far behind?


If anyone listens to Chris Core, resident old crank/conservative point-misser on DC's news station, he was bleating about this last night. "Phil Mickelson's got every right - and clearly, the ability - to move to wherever he wants to minimize his tax burden." He also repeated Phil's claim that he paid "almost 60% of his income in taxes last year" between state/local (he's in CA) and federal taxes.

I'd like to see Phil's tax records - is he actually paying close to a 60% effective rate? (If so, why? Are all his wins paid out as "gambling wins" - taxed at 45%?)

Anyway, I'd hazard that people aren't pissed THAT he's moving - hell, the little people move to FL to avoid income taxes all the time - it's that he's whining so loudly and publicly about taxes. We're not going to feel sorry for you, Phil. 60% of $25,000,000 (what IIRC he made last year) is $15,000,000 - 300x the median US wage ($50k), enough to (according to the census) outright buy the average house in the US ~55 times over (and enough for the median house 67.6 times).

NO ONE, except maybe some of the cheerleaders for the 1%, is going to feel sorry for you. You have (and have had for many years now) every opportunity to better your tax situation clearing $15m in a single year, so if you're only just now getting wind that you're gonna be taxed, you're an idiot to boot.
 
2013-01-25 10:39:28 AM

Dr Dreidel: I'd like to see Phil's tax records


What business is it of yours and why do you give a shiat what he makes?
 
2013-01-25 10:40:14 AM

Dr Dreidel: BunkoSquad: We have to help poor Phil Mickelson...if a pro golfer decides to Go Galt, can the America's Cup yachting team and those rich men who try to set hot-air ballooning records be far behind?

If anyone listens to Chris Core, resident old crank/conservative point-misser on DC's news station, he was bleating about this last night. "Phil Mickelson's got every right - and clearly, the ability - to move to wherever he wants to minimize his tax burden." He also repeated Phil's claim that he paid "almost 60% of his income in taxes last year" between state/local (he's in CA) and federal taxes.

I'd like to see Phil's tax records - is he actually paying close to a 60% effective rate? (If so, why? Are all his wins paid out as "gambling wins" - taxed at 45%?)

Anyway, I'd hazard that people aren't pissed THAT he's moving - hell, the little people move to FL to avoid income taxes all the time - it's that he's whining so loudly and publicly about taxes. We're not going to feel sorry for you, Phil. 60% of $25,000,000 (what IIRC he made last year) is $15,000,000 - 300x the median US wage ($50k), enough to (according to the census) outright buy the average house in the US ~55 times over (and enough for the median house 67.6 times).

NO ONE, except maybe some of the cheerleaders for the 1%, is going to feel sorry for you. You have (and have had for many years now) every opportunity to better your tax situation clearing $15m in a single year, so if you're only just now getting wind that you're gonna be taxed, you're an idiot to boot.


I, for one, would love to be in a financial situation in which I had to pay $15M in taxes yearly.
 
2013-01-25 10:43:49 AM

Diogenes: I've met  Mickelson.  He has plenty to apologize for.  Guy's an enormous douche in general.


No way! Mr.FIGJAM?
 
2013-01-25 10:44:35 AM
Suck on that man boob libs!
 
2013-01-25 10:45:06 AM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-25 10:45:28 AM
First we have Obama and the Democrats riding roughshod over the GOP and enacting a 4.6% tax increase on the evil rich.

It's almost as if Obama just won reelection. How presumptuous.
 
2013-01-25 10:46:33 AM
That was profoundly retarded.
 
2013-01-25 10:46:51 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: Dr Dreidel: I'd like to see Phil's tax records

What business is it of yours and why do you give a shiat what he makes?


It's not and I don't, but I'm curious to know how factual his claim is, or whether he simply "feels like" he pays 60%/year. If he Romneys his records, well, that's his right as a left-handed-golfer-American.

// damn special rights...
 
2013-01-25 10:47:57 AM
My god. I couldn't imagine living off of only $18 million. What if I need to remodel one of the marble bathrooms in my house? You think I'm gonna use granite?!?! I am not an animal.
 
2013-01-25 10:49:29 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: Dr Dreidel: I'd like to see Phil's tax records

What business is it of yours and why do you give a shiat what he makes?


He publicly asserted that he is paying greater than 60% of his income in taxes. Asking him to document such an outrageous claim doesn't seem like too much to ask. He certainly doesn't have too, but then the rest of the world doesn't have to think he's anything but a bald faced liar.
 
2013-01-25 10:49:54 AM

Dr Dreidel: Dancin_In_Anson: Dr Dreidel: I'd like to see Phil's tax records

What business is it of yours and why do you give a shiat what he makes?

It's not and I don't, but I'm curious to know how factual his claim is, or whether he simply "feels like" he pays 60%/year. If he Romneys his records, well, that's his right as a left-handed-golfer-American.

// damn special rights...


KPMG, we really suck at accounting.
 
2013-01-25 10:50:29 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: Dr Dreidel: I'd like to see Phil's tax records

What business is it of yours and why do you give a shiat what he makes?


When he starts to lie to set a false political agenda, it's our business to prove he's lying, which he clearly is.
 
2013-01-25 10:52:04 AM

Dr Dreidel: 60% of $25,000,000 (what IIRC he made last year) is $15,000,000 - 300x the median US wage ($50k), enough to (according to the census) outright buy the average house in the US ~55 times over (and enough for the median house 67.6 times).


That's...special. Trying again:

Phil's remaining 40% ($10,000,000) is 200x the median US wage, enough to buy the average home 36.6 times and the median US home 45 times.

// 2010 census data
 
2013-01-25 10:52:16 AM

Paul Baumer: Dancin_In_Anson: Dr Dreidel: I'd like to see Phil's tax records

What business is it of yours and why do you give a shiat what he makes?

He publicly asserted that he is paying greater than 60% of his income in taxes. Asking him to document such an outrageous claim doesn't seem like too much to ask. He certainly doesn't have too, but then the rest of the world doesn't have to think he's anything but a bald faced liar.


Are you paying less than 50% in tax? Let us help you get over the hump. KPMG
 
2013-01-25 10:52:59 AM

Pro golfer threatens to move to America's Wang?


i.imgur.com

 
2013-01-25 10:56:02 AM
Time to get yourself a new accountant, Phil.
 
2013-01-25 10:56:35 AM

justtray: When he starts to lie to set a false political agenda, it's our business to prove he's lying, which he clearly is.


Oh bullshiat. You thinks he's lying? Big farking deal. He's not running for office. Let's worry about those lying farkers first then we can worry about a golfer.
 
2013-01-25 10:59:57 AM

MFAWG: Diogenes: I've met  Mickelson.  He has plenty to apologize for.  Guy's an enormous douche in general.

No way! Mr.FIGJAM?


A friend of mine was friends with one of his "personal assistants".  At least we got tickets to Bay Hill.
 
2013-01-25 11:00:34 AM

beerrun: Time to get yourself a new accountant, Phil.


That would mean losing his major sponsor. KPMG, for when you could pay less, but why?
 
2013-01-25 11:04:24 AM
The article they ran in the National Post regarding this tax-flap had him wearing a KPMG visor. If only he could avoid paying 62-63% in taxes......Somebody out there must have a company that specializes in taxes. Somebody help this guy out already, HE HAS ARTHRITIS GOT DAMN IT
 
2013-01-25 11:05:36 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: justtray: When he starts to lie to set a false political agenda, it's our business to prove he's lying, which he clearly is.

Oh bullshiat. You thinks he's lying? Big farking deal. He's not running for office. Let's worry about those lying farkers first then we can worry about a golfer.


Celebrity says stupid shiat. Farkers make fun. This isn't your first day here, man.
 
2013-01-25 11:05:53 AM
Phil Mickelson isn't the first rich guy to consider leaving California for Florida or some other state without an income tax, and he will not be the last.
 
2013-01-25 11:06:43 AM

LarryDan43: beerrun: Time to get yourself a new accountant, Phil.

That would mean losing his major sponsor. KPMG, for when you could pay less, but why?


Then he he should just STFU and play.
 
2013-01-25 11:09:27 AM
Do I ever not wish I had Phil's life.

Golfing all over the world, banking eight-figures a year and giving a horrific amount to the government.

Yep, I'm the real lucky one here, what with a desk job and a modest home, a used car and a bus pass, maybe one nice vacation every three years or so.

Poor Phil.
 
2013-01-25 11:09:28 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: justtray: When he starts to lie to set a false political agenda, it's our business to prove he's lying, which he clearly is.

Oh bullshiat. You thinks he's lying? Big farking deal. He's not running for office. Let's worry about those lying farkers first then we can worry about a golfer.


Then he should shut his farking mouth and so should you. He doesn't need any white knight of stupidity.

He was being dishonest. Either put up or shut up.
 
2013-01-25 11:09:30 AM
Phil Mickelson is a professional golfer. He makes boatloads of money. Millions. What's more, he makes boatloads of money for a lot of other people in the process, including generating massive contributions to charity. He's a jobs creator and an engine of economic growth, as are many other pro golfers and athletes.

Total non sequitor.  Mickelson is a "jobs creator and an engine of economic growth" regardless of where he lives.  He may move his residence to Florida or some other low-tax/no-tax state, but he will remain a "jobs creator" wherever he is playing tournaments/etc.  His move to avoid California's high tax burden will minimally impact California's tax receipts, but will have little effect on Mickelson's status as a "jobs creator and an engine of economic growth."
 
2013-01-25 11:10:00 AM
Geez libtards, how can you NOT feel sorry for someone that has to pay millions in taxes, due to his back breaking career of golfing all over the world.
 
2013-01-25 11:11:34 AM
FTA Phil Mickelson is a professional golfer. He makes boatloads of money. Millions. What's more, he makes boatloads of money for a lot of other people in the process, including generating massive contributions to charity. He's a jobs creator and an engine of economic growth, as are many other pro golfers and athletes.

Wow. "Job Creator" is just a marketing slogan at this point, isn't it?
 
2013-01-25 11:12:34 AM

ManRay: Phil Mickelson isn't the first rich guy to consider leaving California for Florida or some other state without an income tax, and he will not be the last.




They asked Tiger Woods about it. He said he left California for Florida in the late 90s for that exact reason.

Forbes
 
2013-01-25 11:16:55 AM
So if you're a flat out tax cheat, you can be in a Democrat President's cabinet, no problem. If you're a citizen that may move to another state to lessen his tax burden, you are a lying douche.

Must be Let Your Inner Hypocrite Out to Play Friday.
 
2013-01-25 11:19:50 AM
I think it was stupid of him to go off on complaining about it publicly since the thing it affected was his ability to buy stock in a professional sports team. Also, the guy has made 40-70m a year for the past decade plus. He, his family, his kids, his kid's kids, and anyone with the name Mickelson on his family tree for the next century will never have to worry about money ever again.

Now, that is not to say he doesn't have a right to complain. He can be upset about it and he can make changes in his life to lessen the "damage" those taxes cause. He has the means and ability to move to Arizona or Florida (where hundreds of professional golfers live). He can talk about it with his friends AND he can vote however he wants to try and change the situation.

But, to complain publicly about how awful it is to make 50m dollars and have to pay taxes? Come on.

Now, I think he handled it great. He seemed to realize it was kind of off-putting to complain in that manner and he sat in front of the media and answered questions clearly and honestly (with a great bit of humor, as well).

I think his views on tax policy are wrong and he's a whiny crybaby for some of the things he said...but I still like him and will continue to root for him. And, I think he went above and beyond in apologizing where I don't think it was really warranted.
 
2013-01-25 11:21:05 AM

hugram: Geez libtards, how can you NOT feel sorry for someone that has to pay millions in taxes, due to his back breaking career of golfing all over the world.


Haven't you heard? He's in so much pain he has to be on a strict drug regimen to even play with his putter

/who's going to phil his shoes?
 
2013-01-25 11:21:14 AM

LarryDan43: Suck on that man boob libs!


Your lack of commas make this statement unclear.

"Suck on that man boob, libs!"
Or did you mean "Suck on that, man boob libs!"

See, the comma makes all the difference.
 
2013-01-25 11:22:28 AM
Son, yiou're not being asked to apologize for speaking truth to power, you are being asked to apologize because the few fans you have left aren't going to like you much when you claim that tax rates are ruinous. We know how much you make. We don't really care about your taxes. And if you want to biatch about them, do it in the country club, not in an interview, you god damned retard.

He didn't have to apologize *at all*, but if he wanted to continue getting boatloads of sponsorship cash it was probably a good idea to protect his brand.

And this is Neil Boortz? That guys gonna give himself an aneurism if he's not careful.
 
2013-01-25 11:23:10 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: If you're a citizen that may move to another state to lessen his tax burden, you are a lying douche.


He's not a lying douche for indicating he may move to a state without state-level income tax. He's possibly a lying douche because his marginal tax rate is so goddamn high that I've got to believe his accountant or tax attorney is intentionally screwing him.
 
2013-01-25 11:23:42 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: First we have Obama and the Democrats riding roughshod over the GOP and enacting a 4.6% tax increase on the evil rich.

It's almost as if Obama just won reelection. How presumptuous.


The word you're looking for is uppity. Uppity. As in "That uppity little porch monkey sitting in the Oval Office, acting like he owns the place."
 
2013-01-25 11:24:21 AM

beerrun: Time to get yourself a new accountant, Phil.


Hell, just go pick up QuickBooks at Office Depot for $50.  Even that would have to do better than whatever idiot is advising him now.

Or, you know.... he's just full of it
 
2013-01-25 11:26:22 AM
"What's more, he makes boatloads of money for a lot of other people in the process, including generating massive contributions to charity. He's a jobs creator and an engine of economic growth, as are many other pro golfers and athletes."

Proof?
 
2013-01-25 11:26:49 AM

LectertheChef: LarryDan43: Suck on that man boob libs!

Your lack of commas make this statement unclear.

"Suck on that man boob, libs!"
Or did you mean "Suck on that, man boob libs!"

See, the comma makes all the difference.


I read it as, "Suck on that man, boob libs!"
 
2013-01-25 11:27:36 AM
I have rooted against Phil ever since my racist ex in-laws rooted for him only because they didn't like "the black guy taking over golf too"

/I know Tiger is a douche too
 
2013-01-25 11:32:13 AM
SHUT UP AND GOLF
 
2013-01-25 11:32:20 AM
I think they should deny education funding to states that don't have an income tax.

/lives in florida
 
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