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2013-01-25 11:42:19 AM

Thisbymaster: Did anyone else read the while article? This would have made it another charge to force someone to get an abortion to try to cover up a crime that already happened. So this didn't create new crime at all but no one else here can get over the foaming at the mouth that seems to happen when someone talks about rape.


Yeah. I think the wording is just a little weird.

Also, if she is forced to get an abortion, the evidence would possibly be gone before any charges could be brought. 
I can *kinda* see where they're going with it.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2013-01-25 11:42:24 AM

SkinnyHead: PsiChick: Because Fox News can't actually report worth shiat. What actually happened is that, in a bill titled basically 'ACT ABOUT RAPE AND INCEST VICTIMS' (don't remember the exact language--the thread should still be available in the Politics tab for everyone, and someone found a linky to the PDF, but it actually said 'rape and incest victims', that one I am not paraphrasing in the slightest), the woman said in legal jargon that it was illegal to give an abortion to a woman who was pregnant because the baby (not fetus) is evidence.

The title of the bill was "AN ACT RELATING TO CRIMINAL LAW; SPECIFYING PROCURING OF AN ABORTION AS TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE IN CASES OF CRIMINAL SEXUAL PENETRATION OR INCEST."


So you think any woman impregnated by a rapist is only behaving responsibly if she takes the fetus to term and can then show the state it really was the accused rapists child? That it is her duty to bear proof, and the rest of the discussion is without merit?

/deep thoughts with..
 
2013-01-25 11:42:32 AM

david_gaithersburg: .
Can you provide a link to a story about "New Mexico republicans and their attempt to punish rape victims"? I'm reading a story about so-called-progressives manufacturing outrage over Republicans trying to punish the abusers of rape victims.

/Why are you pro rape?


did you bother to even read the article this thread is attached too...?  or did you just have a stroke and I missed it...?

lemme ask you this: how often do you think a rapist actually manages to force his rape victim(s) to have an abortion?  just give me a round number.
 
2013-01-25 11:43:28 AM
I am willing to bet that she wrote the bill herself. I have seen stuff from state legislators that appear to be written by a foreigner with little experience in English.
 
2013-01-25 11:43:55 AM

namatad: Earpj: Andrew Wiggin:
pro lifers only care about a 'baby' until it's actually born.

That's how it seems to me. After birth, you're on your own. Don't you dare ask for help.

THEY are NOT pro-life. it is a bullshiat label. THEY are anti-abortion. THEY are pro control-women.
But those labels dont score as well as pro-life!!

/if only they were pro-compassion.


Very true. Pro-life would have to also include anti-death penalty, wouldn't it?
 
2013-01-25 11:45:07 AM

DGS: david_gaithersburg: Can you provide a link to a story about "New Mexico republicans and their attempt to punish rape victims"? I'm reading a story about so-called-progressives manufacturing outrage over Republicans trying to punish the abusers of rape victims.

/Why are you pro rape?

True or false. If this bill was made into law, a woman that sought an abortion after being raped would be potentially hit with a third degree felony charge.

/heh, no, I don't actually expect you to answer. You just want people to play defense while you make absurd accusations.
//why are you pro government control?


.
I'm not a so-called-progressive, so chances are I'm not an attorney. It was a draft bill, the language is being revised. Even after the revision there is still fake outrage.

If a conservative told you the sky was blue you would begin foaming at the mouth.
 
2013-01-25 11:46:01 AM
I wonder what the GOP's position is on men who were convicted of rape before the age of DNA analysis who have tried for years, or decades, to have the evidence to be re-examined, because they claim that DNA analysis will exonerate them?

I wonder what your typical GOP (and for that matter, Democratic) DA up for re-election would have to say about that?
 
2013-01-25 11:46:25 AM

Weaver95: david_gaithersburg: .
So you support victims of sexual abuse being forced by their abusers to have an abortion?

how often does that even happen?  because i'm thinking it's gotta be pretty damn rare.  also, a live fetus and a dead one both have DNA evidence, right?  so can't you just use the dead fetus as your evidence anyway?


Excellent point!

/I doubt most rape or incest victims would have to be "forced" to have an abortion.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2013-01-25 11:47:05 AM

david_gaithersburg: DGS: david_gaithersburg: Can you provide a link to a story about "New Mexico republicans and their attempt to punish rape victims"? I'm reading a story about so-called-progressives manufacturing outrage over Republicans trying to punish the abusers of rape victims.

/Why are you pro rape?

True or false. If this bill was made into law, a woman that sought an abortion after being raped would be potentially hit with a third degree felony charge.

/heh, no, I don't actually expect you to answer. You just want people to play defense while you make absurd accusations.
//why are you pro government control?

.
I'm not a so-called-progressive, so chances are I'm not an attorney. It was a draft bill, the language is being revised. Even after the revision there is still fake outrage.

If a conservative told you the sky was blue you would begin foaming at the mouth.


And if Obama said that he loved breathing, you'd be blue in the face.
 
2013-01-25 11:47:31 AM
Oooh, new law idea for you, GOP: Women who have miscarriages should be tried with manslaughter.
 
2013-01-25 11:47:32 AM

what_now: Look, I think you're in the wrong thread. I know you want to blather about how recess appointments are only for white men with crazy mustaches, but we're talking about why the GOP hates women.


He is talking about that. Hillary just biatched slapped his party in public and this the only way he can deal with it. He's at the "Deflection" stage of GOP anger.
 
2013-01-25 11:47:48 AM

david_gaithersburg: .
I'm not a so-called-progressive, so chances are I'm not an attorney. It was a draft bill, the language is being revised. Even after the revision there is still fake outrage.

If a conservative told you the sky was blue you would begin foaming at the mouth.


i'm pretty sure the outrage is real.  the GOP has been pretty consistent with their 'pro-rape' message.  what I can't figure is how the GOP decided this was going to help them take back Congress.  the rest of the country is looking at the Republican party in horror and disgust.
 
2013-01-25 11:48:07 AM

clowncar on fire: Drewdad: Rapeublican.

Care to cite where republicans are pro-rape or has this become such a repeated lie around these parts that's its accepted as truth.

I'm not saying the GOP hasn't made a few boneheaded comments regarding the topic of rape but I'm having trouble finding a source where rape has specifically been mentioned as part of their agenda.


www.blogster.com
 
2013-01-25 11:48:45 AM
New law. Women who are not in the kitchen are arrested. This would keep them from getting raped, educated, and voting Thus solving every GOP issue in one fell swoop.
 
2013-01-25 11:49:29 AM

Weaver95: Mugato: Weaver95: I really don't understand this bizarre obsession the pro-life crowd has with punishing rape victims. being forced to carry the product of rape full term has to be pretty damaging, not just mentally but financially.

I'm pro-choice (meaning I don't really care but I don't think a woman should be made to have a kid she doesn't want) but if you're a religious fanatic who believes that life begins when the guy nuts inside a woman and that all life is sacred (none of them believe that one), believing that a woman should carry a rape baby is at least internally consistent with their twisted viewpoint. It's not the kid's fault what the terms were under which he was conceived.

If this sounds like I'm supporting pro-life people, I'm not, I'm just saying forcing the woman to keep the rape baby is consistent with what they claim to believe. I hope that came across correctly.

sure, but it's not very logical.  you can't say 'all life is sacred' then turn around and do NOTHING to help that life grow and become meaningful.  you might as well give birth and then abandon the kid on a barren windswept mountain top.  that's also logically consistent with the pro-life view.


It's actually pretty consistent if you keep in mind the difference between sins of commission vs. sins of omission. In term of domestic policy, conservatives frequently frame moral obligation in terms of what you shouldn't do, not what you should actually do instead.
 
2013-01-25 11:50:11 AM

david_gaithersburg: clowncar on fire: Drewdad: Rapeublican.

Care to cite where republicans are pro-rape or has this become such a repeated lie around these parts that's its accepted as truth.

I'm not saying the GOP hasn't made a few boneheaded comments regarding the topic of rape but I'm having trouble finding a source where rape has specifically been mentioned as part of their agenda.

[www.blogster.com image 500x607]


Nice to see you are publishing a page out of the GOP play-book.
 
2013-01-25 11:50:17 AM
You guys know that no one gets an abortion at gun point, right? And the abortion provider talks to you for a while to make sure that's really what you want and that no one is forcing you to have the procedure?

Are some women pressured into having an abortion? Absolutely. All the time.

This bill wouldn't STOP that from happening, its a ham fisted attempt to make aborting even more difficult on women. The idea that a live baby is needed for DNA is ridiculous to anyone smart enough to SPELL DNA.
 
2013-01-25 11:50:22 AM

OooShiny: how exactly is fundy Christianology any different than fundy Islam?


They differ only in where they strap the explosives. Fundie Islamists wear the bombs on themselves, Fundie Christianists try to strap it on the whole country.
 
2013-01-25 11:50:42 AM

david_gaithersburg: [derpage]

a

re you ok?  you aren't making much sense.  is there a medical condition we should be aware of...?
 
2013-01-25 11:51:40 AM
Hey GOP, own up to your crazy. Stop apologizing for it.
 
2013-01-25 11:52:07 AM

give me doughnuts: Nice to see you are publishing a page out of the GOP play-book.


Well, he was a socialist after all. Just like black people are socialism.
 
2013-01-25 11:53:22 AM

Weaver95: I really don't understand this bizarre obsession the pro-life crowd has with punishing rape victims.  being forced to carry the product of rape full term has to be pretty damaging, not just mentally but financially.  look - I get the 'whole life is sacred' thing, I really do.  But here's the deal....if you want to force a woman to carry a rape baby full term, then do the following:

1. pay the rape victims medical costs.  ALL of 'em.  from psych counseling to pre-natal care up through medical expenses incurred during and immediately after giving birth.
2. help put the kid up for adoption, even if the kid is 'special needs' or has medical issues.  you wanted 'em born, you pay for 'em.
3. make it a law that rape victims *cannot* be fired under any circumstances while carrying the rape baby to term, oh and you are going to give their significant other (or person they designate) the same level of protection.  they'll need support, and you are going to damn well make sure they get it.
4. if they decide to keep the rape baby, then you pay the woman a stipend over and above food stamps that you WILL make sure she gets...this was about as unplanned a pregnancy as unplanned can get and you WILL make sure to help her with all her unexpected/unplanned for expenses during her first year with her new child.
5. her rapist pays child support.  yes, I realize that's probably something like...20 cents or something...but it's the thought that counts.

do ALL of the above, and i'll believe you give a damn about the rape victim.  Don't do it, or weasel dick your way out of it, and I'll know you're a religious moron who hasn't thought the issue through.


Those are interesting ideas, but now you've provided a financial incentive for a woman to claim rape over another cause of her pregnancy. Already women's claims of rape are considered suspect from day one unless she shows up in the ER on the brink of death. Even if no woman ever falsely claimed rape to get this help, it would still be used as ammunition by conservatives and now the phantom of the "welfare queen" will be replaced by the phantom of the "rape queen" who is falsely claiming rape to cash in.

I can see lawyers defending their clients instead of "she is a known slut and look how she dressed" they will be trying to get the alleged victim's financial records entered in as evidence.
 
2013-01-25 11:53:54 AM
It clearly says "...with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime..."

There is a lot of manufactured rage in here over ignorance and lack of reading comprehension skills. I understand being stupid is sometimes frustrating and makes you angry, but...get over it
 
2013-01-25 11:54:14 AM

Smelly Pirate Hooker: It's what I've come to expect from the Legitimate Rape Party.

So, carry on, assholes. I like it when you make public statements that make it absolutely clear nobody with a brain should vote for you. Makes it easier to remember at election time.

Another entry for my Assholish Things Republicans Have Said and Who Said Them spreadsheet.


you have a great idea right there, and one that is long overdue. a website and maybe a book of collected over the top, OMG i can't believe they just said that direct quotes from the lips of the mentally deficient in office. that web site and book should be fully exploited weeks before elections take place. people are busy; people have short memories. to remind voters of what they are truly, honestly dealing with before they cast a vote would be doing this country a great service.
 
2013-01-25 11:54:44 AM

macadamnut: give me doughnuts: Nice to see you are publishing a page out of the GOP play-book.

Well, he was a socialist after all. Just like black people are socialism.


He was a nationalistic authoritarian who was convinced of the natural superiority of Caucasians.

Just like the GOP's base.


p.s. You misspelled "SOSHLIZMS!"
 
2013-01-25 11:56:07 AM

david_gaithersburg: Oh, love the red banner at the top of the article. Can someone please explain why Obam isn't sitting in jail?


I see a beach and a pier. I guess is just shows us all what we want to see!
 
2013-01-25 11:56:49 AM

Weaver95: Another point - a live fetus and a dead one both contain DNA evidence. DNA doesn't just evaporate after an abortion. i'm sure that if you really needed evidence of incest (or rape I suppose) wouldn't it be more efficient to say that the remains of the fetus could be frozen and used for evidence as well? why does the law force a rape victim to carry the rape baby to term? that seems pretty cruel to me.


I think it means that if a coerced girl goes in for an abortion the staff there won't collect samples and preserve evidence and just chuck it all in a biomedical waste bin because the victim isn't saying "Oh, yeah, and BTW, the daddy raped me. He's the one who drove me here today too."
 
2013-01-25 11:56:52 AM

SkinnyHead: PsiChick: Because Fox News can't actually report worth shiat. What actually happened is that, in a bill titled basically 'ACT ABOUT RAPE AND INCEST VICTIMS' (don't remember the exact language--the thread should still be available in the Politics tab for everyone, and someone found a linky to the PDF, but it actually said 'rape and incest victims', that one I am not paraphrasing in the slightest), the woman said in legal jargon that it was illegal to give an abortion to a woman who was pregnant because the baby (not fetus) is evidence.

The title of the bill was "AN ACT RELATING TO CRIMINAL LAW; SPECIFYING PROCURING OF AN ABORTION AS TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE IN CASES OF CRIMINAL SEXUAL PENETRATION OR INCEST."


...Wow, I spectacularly misremembered  that one, thanks for catching that.

/Same end effect, though; even using TFA's text you can see that, presuming the trial takes a normal length of time (criminal trials I've known have taken about a year to come to court), the woman would be forced to carry to term because 'evidence'.
 
2013-01-25 11:56:55 AM

david_gaithersburg: DGS: david_gaithersburg: So-called-progressives, doing their part to keep down the national reading level.

What does this even mean?

.
So you support victims of sexual abuse being forced by their abusers to have an abortion?

The bill is not needed, but the outrage is manufactured.


You're a farking idiot, you know that, right. No one above supported forced abortions, you made an outrageous claim about Obam(a), and then you admit that a bill is not needed but dismiss the negative consequences that a bill worded as this one would have in a state that has been shown to go after morality using the police force. You are a bad human being, a sorry Christian, and just a worthless POS in general.
 
2013-01-25 11:57:30 AM
So, the rapist will have to pay the victim's father 50 shekels and two cows when he marries the victim?
 
2013-01-25 11:57:48 AM
Um, if she's clarified the language to cover only rapists who would force their victims to get abortions, then HOW IS THAT NOT ALREADY ILLEGAL?!!
 
2013-01-25 11:57:58 AM

LaraAmber: Weaver95: I really don't understand this bizarre obsession the pro-life crowd has with punishing rape victims.  being forced to carry the product of rape full term has to be pretty damaging, not just mentally but financially.  look - I get the 'whole life is sacred' thing, I really do.  But here's the deal....if you want to force a woman to carry a rape baby full term, then do the following:

1. pay the rape victims medical costs.  ALL of 'em.  from psych counseling to pre-natal care up through medical expenses incurred during and immediately after giving birth.
2. help put the kid up for adoption, even if the kid is 'special needs' or has medical issues.  you wanted 'em born, you pay for 'em.
3. make it a law that rape victims *cannot* be fired under any circumstances while carrying the rape baby to term, oh and you are going to give their significant other (or person they designate) the same level of protection.  they'll need support, and you are going to damn well make sure they get it.
4. if they decide to keep the rape baby, then you pay the woman a stipend over and above food stamps that you WILL make sure she gets...this was about as unplanned a pregnancy as unplanned can get and you WILL make sure to help her with all her unexpected/unplanned for expenses during her first year with her new child.
5. her rapist pays child support.  yes, I realize that's probably something like...20 cents or something...but it's the thought that counts.

do ALL of the above, and i'll believe you give a damn about the rape victim.  Don't do it, or weasel dick your way out of it, and I'll know you're a religious moron who hasn't thought the issue through.

Those are interesting ideas, but now you've provided a financial incentive for a woman to claim rape over another cause of her pregnancy. Already women's claims of rape are considered suspect from day one unless she shows up in the ER on the brink of death. Even if no woman ever falsely claimed rape to get this help, it woul ...


I would rather occasionally let someone game the system than leave a rape victim with nowhere to turn and no options.
 
2013-01-25 11:58:14 AM

david_gaithersburg: DGS: david_gaithersburg: So-called-progressives, doing their part to keep down the national reading level.

What does this even mean?

.
So you support victims of sexual abuse being forced by their abusers to have an abortion?

The bill is not needed, but the outrage is manufactured.


This may also include victims who seek an abortion for the intent of covering the identity of the rapist. As much as there are those who would drool all over themselves by calling this "prosecuting the victim", what we really have is a seperate criminal act of covering up/destroying of evidence in a criminal case.

I don't believe this bill was about criminalizing abortion resulting from rape as a way to compell women to have rape babies so much as a way to define/prevent the act of destrotying evidence intentionally during an active criminal case which may include both the rapist and their victim. In short- have an abortion if you need. Do not encourage or engage in abortion if you are attempting to avoid prosecution for the act of rape or an attempt to hide the identity of the perpurtrator.
 
2013-01-25 11:58:18 AM

DGS: david_gaithersburg: DGS: david_gaithersburg: So-called-progressives, doing their part to keep down the national reading level.

What does this even mean?

.
So you support victims of sexual abuse being forced by their abusers to have an abortion?

The bill is not needed, but the outrage is manufactured.

Nice! I ask you what it is you even mean and you're already positioning me! Thanks! I see I have you correctly marked as 'Derpy'.

/I can do it, too. Stupid, isn't it.


You can do that? I must investigate my Fark account
/And then mark him as extremely Derpy
 
2013-01-25 11:58:29 AM

browntimmy: Oooh, new law idea for you, GOP: Women who have miscarriages should be tried with manslaughter.


tell me where to send my rags for testing every time I have a period.

A great many products of conception never implant themselves and get flushed out when a woman has her monthly period. And who's going to be my llawyer? Because, I didn't even know anything happened. I was sitting here, voting and feeling moody and voom, another manslaughter down the tubes.
 
2013-01-25 11:59:14 AM

doyner: In all fairness I'm sure it was written by some organization with the word "family" bigot in its name.


Same thing. They're interchangeable.
 
2013-01-25 11:59:32 AM

clowncar on fire: Drewdad: Rapeublican.

Care to cite where republicans are pro-rape or has this become such a repeated lie around these parts that's its accepted as truth.

I'm not saying the GOP hasn't made a few boneheaded comments regarding the topic of rape but I'm having trouble finding a source where rape has specifically been mentioned as part of their agenda.


You're right. I think they should clarify their stance on rape and rape babies. They should speak at great length, in fact, about rape. They should be sure to use the word rape more often so that their true arguments about rape can be more easily found by internet searches for rape.

It's going to happen anyway. Might as well enjoy it.
 
2013-01-25 12:00:28 PM

GAT_00: doyner: GAT_00: Yeah, "clarify."  You mean you got caught.  It's your bill, don't tell me you didn't know what was in it.

In all fairness I'm sure it was written by some organization with the word "family" in its name.

Actually, I'd bet ALEC wrote it.


Lawmakers should have to write their bills with a #2 pencil with bipartisan witnesses present.
 
2013-01-25 12:03:51 PM

OooShiny: Why not force rape victims to marry the rapists, thereby preserving evidence until death do they part.

Speaking of...tell me again, please; how exactly is fundy Christianology any different than fundy Islam?


That is what the Bible says. A rapist is to marry the woman and pay her family.
 
2013-01-25 12:04:13 PM
Yeah. "Clarifying" it after some people told the dumbass that all we'd need to do was to cryo-freeze the aborted fetus for DNA testing later, most likely.
 
2013-01-25 12:04:25 PM

david_gaithersburg: DGS: david_gaithersburg: Can you provide a link to a story about "New Mexico republicans and their attempt to punish rape victims"? I'm reading a story about so-called-progressives manufacturing outrage over Republicans trying to punish the abusers of rape victims.

/Why are you pro rape?

True or false. If this bill was made into law, a woman that sought an abortion after being raped would be potentially hit with a third degree felony charge.

/heh, no, I don't actually expect you to answer. You just want people to play defense while you make absurd accusations.
//why are you pro government control?

.
I'm not a so-called-progressive, so chances are I'm not an attorney. It was a draft bill, the language is being revised. Even after the revision there is still fake outrage.

If a conservative told you the sky was blue you would begin foaming at the mouth.


If a conservative told me the sky was blue, I'd walk outside, verify that indeed it was the case, and carry on. You see, that's the difference between conservatives and, well, anyone else. We're more than happy to verify if something is true, and if it is, move on. The problem is that conservatives get proven wrong, then doggedly insist that the evidence is a Photoshop, that Obama isn't a citizen, that global warming isn't happening, that the Founding Fathers had zero intention of this being a "Christian nation", etc etc etc.
By the way, on that last bit, if you take the time to go to the Library of Congress and read some of the letters from Madison, Jefferson and others who signed the Constitution, you'll find my statement to be abundantly correct.
 
2013-01-25 12:05:42 PM

Weaver95: I would rather occasionally let someone game the system than leave a rape victim with nowhere to turn and no options.


And I agree. However I'm worried about people claiming all women who try to use these benefits are trying to game the system (or juries being prejudiced about rape victims because the sneaky suspicion she's here for the $$$). Women feel enough guilt about taking WIC and that's available to everyone and doesn't require proof of a crime.
 
2013-01-25 12:06:06 PM

Weaver95: david_gaithersburg: .
So you support victims of sexual abuse being forced by their abusers to have an abortion?

how often does that even happen?  because i'm thinking it's gotta be pretty damn rare.  also, a live fetus and a dead one both have DNA evidence, right?  so can't you just use the dead fetus as your evidence anyway?


It's probably not as rare as you think, but that doesn't matter. There are quite a few laws that cover what this would anyway. That's the smell test for all of this nonsense.
 
2013-01-25 12:06:40 PM

Mugato: Weaver95: I really don't understand this bizarre obsession the pro-life crowd has with punishing rape victims. being forced to carry the product of rape full term has to be pretty damaging, not just mentally but financially.

I'm pro-choice (meaning I don't really care but I don't think a woman should be made to have a kid she doesn't want) but if you're a religious fanatic who believes that life begins when the guy nuts inside a woman and that all life is sacred (none of them believe that one), believing that a woman should carry a rape baby is at least internally consistent with their twisted viewpoint. It's not the kid's fault what the terms were under which he was conceived.

If this sounds like I'm supporting pro-life people, I'm not, I'm just saying forcing the woman to keep the rape baby is consistent with what they claim to believe. I hope that came across correctly.


Yeah, and I agree it's consistent. Still very wrong though. Ordered evil instead of chaotic evil.
 
2013-01-25 12:06:43 PM

Darth_Lukecash: ManateeGag: she's a coont.  I don't think I can be any more clear than that.

She's an elected coont. And that makes it worse.


She's a "Republicoont". Is that a word? It should be.
 
2013-01-25 12:07:21 PM
Since tinyhead had his ass handed to him on every birth certificate thread, he is now going to double down on the rape issue? Carry on, you valiant patriot, carry on
 
2013-01-25 12:09:57 PM
Every time I read one of these threads, I have the same thoughts.

1. Incest and rape crimes are terribily under-reported. 2.The statistics on exactly who is getting an abortion aren't easy to find nor totally reliable because it means a woman has to share this incredibily stigmatized information with others. Just based on info from a friend that's an abortion counselor, it's not always who you think it is.

The amount of control a person has on someone that has been sexually abused could easily lead down a path of a "forced" abortion... I haven't read the bill but we should tread carefully to ensure courts couldn't charge a doctor or woman seeking an abortion on their own. I haven't gotten an abortion myself, but it seems that this type of discussion is held before the procedure itself with the woman and her doctor.
 
2013-01-25 12:10:42 PM

DGS: david_gaithersburg: So-called-progressives, doing their part to keep down the national reading level.

What does this even mean?


What does anything david_gaithersburg say ever mean?

\I'll give you a hint: derp
\\there's a reason he's on my ignore list
\\\I got tired of reading his unfunny, unintelligent troll comments
 
2013-01-25 12:12:58 PM

machodonkeywrestler: david_gaithersburg: DGS: david_gaithersburg: So-called-progressives, doing their part to keep down the national reading level.

What does this even mean?

.
So you support victims of sexual abuse being forced by their abusers to have an abortion?

The bill is not needed, but the outrage is manufactured.

You're a farking idiot, you know that, right. No one above supported forced abortions, you made an outrageous claim about Obam(a), and then you admit that a bill is not needed but dismiss the negative consequences that a bill worded as this one would have in a state that has been shown to go after morality using the police force. You are a bad human being, a sorry Christian, and just a worthless POS in general.


Look, a sociopath is not necessarily an idiot. Please don't insult idiots by lumping this sociopath in with them. Lots of idiots are nice people.
 
2013-01-25 12:14:04 PM

CheekyMonkey: DGS: david_gaithersburg: So-called-progressives, doing their part to keep down the national reading level.

What does this even mean?

What does anything david_gaithersburg say ever mean?

\I'll give you a hint: derp
\\there's a reason he's on my ignore list
\\\I got tired of reading his unfunny, unintelligent troll comments


See, I haven't figured him out. Is he a troll? If he is, he is the worst ever. It is easier to believe that he actually believes what he says (and believes that what he says makes sense) than to believe that anyone is that bad of a troll.
 
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