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(NYPost)   Brazen gun dealer shows us how you sell guns on the streets of New York. You know, that city with all those laws   (nypost.com) divider line 212
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2013-01-25 11:18:05 AM  

Kit Fister: Ah, got it, you're a troll. Sorry, I missed that my first time around.


That's pretty funny coming from a raging shill who just did everything he could to sidestep the real issue I brought up.

Stay golden, bro. Stay golden.

Now where's pedrop? It ain't a party without pedrop.
 
2013-01-25 11:18:20 AM  
"Brazen gun dealer." How scary.

I'm scared.
 
2013-01-25 11:26:32 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: DubyaHater: dancingczars.files.wordpress.com

Yes, because owning firearms would have totally prevented WW2. Brilliant.

Back in the musket days, the only equalizer was the cannon (and equivalent). Unless you propose that ordinary citizens start owning 155mm howitzers, TOW anti-tank missiles, M1A2 tanks, B2 bombers, C130 gunships, and of course nuclear weapons, this revolution fantasy circle jerk is stunningy ignorant and naive. The ONLY way that citizens would be able to resist tyranny is the way that it's unfolded across the world: get factions of the military to side with you. And that's got 0% to do with owning frigging small arms.


You know nothing of guerrilla warfare, Jon Snow.
 
2013-01-25 11:30:07 AM  
FYI: Not Assault Rifle was USED in the Newtown tragedy... it was in his trunk, only hand guns were used.
 
2013-01-25 11:31:25 AM  
FTFA: The gun is the same caliber as the AR-15-style assault-weapon used in the Newtown massacre.

FFS, I hate journalists.
 
2013-01-25 11:34:22 AM  
Brazen?

BRAZEN???

I'll show you freaking twits some brazen ...

Feinstein Gun Control Bill to Exempt Government Officials

Us v. Them, biatches

Choose a side
 
2013-01-25 11:34:53 AM  

here to help: Gunderson: 2010 motor vehicle traffic deaths: 33,687

2010 firearm deaths: 31,672

If we really cared about our children, we would limit all cars to 45hp, require a background check, mental health evaluation and a 7-day waiting period before a driver's license is issued, and protect the President with cars manned by the best NASCAR drivers this country has to offer

I don't see people driving their guns to work every day. Could it be that there are more vehicular deaths because they are used far more regularly by far more people? If that's the case then then gun deaths should be far lower than the vehicle deaths... n'est ce pas?


But if it saves just one life it's worth it according to Uncle Joe Firebird.  So why would anyone object to lowering the speed limit on all roads to 20MPH?  There's no doubt that would save lives.  Clearly if you object to this proposal it's because you have a small penis and driving faster than 20MPH is how you compensate for that.  Oh and you must want children to die too.  Why do you hate children?
 
2013-01-25 11:35:08 AM  

Gunderson: If we really cared about our children, we would limit all cars to 45hp, require a background check, mental health evaluation and a 7-day waiting period before a driver's license is issued, and protect the President with cars manned by the best NASCAR drivers this country has to offer


We do limit the speed at which cars can travel legally, there are medical conditions that can cause you to be disallowed from having a driver's license, the waiting period between my permit and my license was a lot longer than 7 days, and the President is protected by an armored car driven by someone who is highly trained in operating that vehicle.

Gunderson: 2010 motor vehicle traffic deaths: 33,687

2010 firearm deaths: 31,672


As for this pile of attempting to sound smart nonsense. In 2010, no people were killed by nuclear weapons. At least one person was killed by a belt. ZOMG, belts are more dangerous than nuclear weapons!!!!
 
2013-01-25 11:36:38 AM  

here to help: Kit Fister: Ah, got it, you're a troll. Sorry, I missed that my first time around.

That's pretty funny coming from a raging shill who just did everything he could to sidestep the real issue I brought up.

Stay golden, bro. Stay golden.

Now where's pedrop? It ain't a party without pedrop.


Shill? Nope. Gun owner and someone who supports the 2a and people not generally being blatant liars and idiots? Yep. But you go ahead and keep thinking that, precious. I love you anyway.
 
2013-01-25 11:37:40 AM  

Callous: But if it saves just one life it's worth it according to Uncle Joe Firebird. So why would anyone object to lowering the speed limit on all roads to 20MPH? There's no doubt that would save lives. Clearly if you object to this proposal it's because you have a small penis and driving faster than 20MPH is how you compensate for that. Oh and you must want children to die too. Why do you hate children?


You suck at satire.

*fart*
 
2013-01-25 11:39:51 AM  

here to help: Callous: But if it saves just one life it's worth it according to Uncle Joe Firebird. So why would anyone object to lowering the speed limit on all roads to 20MPH? There's no doubt that would save lives. Clearly if you object to this proposal it's because you have a small penis and driving faster than 20MPH is how you compensate for that. Oh and you must want children to die too. Why do you hate children?

You suck at satire.

*fart*


Wasn't satire, it was pointing out how ridiculous you gun-grabbers look to everyone else.
 
2013-01-25 11:42:24 AM  

392Zaphod: FYI: Not Assault Rifle was USED in the Newtown tragedy... it was in his trunk, only hand guns were used.


Wrong.

Now tell us about LIBOR and parents really being actors.
 
2013-01-25 11:43:34 AM  

here to help: Gunderson: 2010 motor vehicle traffic deaths: 33,687

2010 firearm deaths: 31,672

If we really cared about our children, we would limit all cars to 45hp, require a background check, mental health evaluation and a 7-day waiting period before a driver's license is issued, and protect the President with cars manned by the best NASCAR drivers this country has to offer

I don't see people driving their guns to work every day. Could it be that there are more vehicular deaths because they are used far more regularly by far more people? If that's the case then then gun deaths should be far lower than the vehicle deaths... n'est ce pas?


Criminals drive.
 
2013-01-25 11:44:02 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: Brazen?

BRAZEN???

I'll show you freaking twits some brazen ...

Feinstein Gun Control Bill to Exempt Government Officials

Us v. Them, biatches

Choose a side


When do you start the revolution?
 
2013-01-25 11:45:00 AM  

Kit Fister: Shill? Nope. Gun owner and someone who supports the 2a and people not generally being blatant liars and idiots? Yep. But you go ahead and keep thinking that, precious. I love you anyway.


Show me where I lied? I support the rights of sane and responsible to acquire reasonable firepower for home defense and hunting... but there is no point discussing any of that with you and your ilk because you will never listen to reason. You will shout down even the people on your side if they don't hold the exact level of extremism as you do until they throw their hands in the air and leave the thread. Then the thread will turn into a masturbatory discussion on all your toys with the other patriots.

Therefore I say...

*fart*

No hard feelings.
 
2013-01-25 11:46:27 AM  

Vernon Freedom: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Do you know who else had laws?

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You magnificent bastard.
 
2013-01-25 11:46:52 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: Brazen?

BRAZEN???


Yes, the gun dealer who waves around fanned out large amounts of cash and deals illegal weaponry wrapped in a pillow case in broad daylight is brazen. Do you have a problem with that?
 
2013-01-25 11:46:55 AM  

Callous: Wasn't satire, it was pointing out how ridiculous you gun-grabbers look to everyone else.


Uh, so you were serious?
 
2013-01-25 11:49:26 AM  

trappedspirit: Callous: Wasn't satire, it was pointing out how ridiculous you gun-grabbers look to everyone else.

Uh, so you were serious?


He thinks cars are guns, which isn't ridiculous.
 
2013-01-25 11:49:27 AM  

Callous: Wasn't satire, it was pointing out how ridiculous you gun-grabbers look to everyone else.


The problem with your comparison is in gun terms the current laws would allow people who have never taken a driving lesson in their life or even read a driver's manual buy an unregistered tractor trailer and drive through residential neighborhoods drunk at 120 mph.

Just want to see you guys get the training, screening and responsibility tests that would make it more likely you'll be safely driving vehicles you can actually handle.
 
2013-01-25 11:51:39 AM  
I stopped reading TFA at "magazine clip"
 
2013-01-25 11:54:45 AM  

Farkage: I stopped reading TFA at "magazine clip"


The article is pretty darned stupid. They could have made their point very easily using correct terminology and not tossing out disingenuous fear phrases every second sentence.

And according to the Constitution Brigade I'm a gun grabbing libby libturd 0booger felcher.
 
2013-01-25 11:55:35 AM  

thurstonxhowell: Gunderson: If we really cared about our children, we would limit all cars to 45hp, require a background check, mental health evaluation and a 7-day waiting period before a driver's license is issued, and protect the President with cars manned by the best NASCAR drivers this country has to offer

We do limit the speed at which cars can travel legally, there are medical conditions that can cause you to be disallowed from having a driver's license, the waiting period between my permit and my license was a lot longer than 7 days, and the President is protected by an armored car driven by someone who is highly trained in operating that vehicle.

Gunderson: 2010 motor vehicle traffic deaths: 33,687

2010 firearm deaths: 31,672

As for this pile of attempting to sound smart nonsense. In 2010, no people were killed by nuclear weapons. At least one person was killed by a belt. ZOMG, belts are more dangerous than nuclear weapons!!!!


Sounds reasonable.

I'm all for more sensaible, reasonable, and sane automobile-control. People don't need to use an automobile anytime they want. You don't need to go to the park. I'm fine with people using them for work, school, worship, food, or medical care. But if you want to use them to go carelessly joyriding or going to the beach then your privlege ends where my right to a safe automobile trip to work or church, begins. This selfishness and inability to understand and listen to sound, sensible and logical reasoning has clogged up this countries crumbling infrastructure and cost the countless deaths of innocent children.

Why don't you care?
 
2013-01-25 11:56:15 AM  

here to help: Kit Fister: Shill? Nope. Gun owner and someone who supports the 2a and people not generally being blatant liars and idiots? Yep. But you go ahead and keep thinking that, precious. I love you anyway.

Show me where I lied? I support the rights of sane and responsible to acquire reasonable firepower for home defense and hunting... but there is no point discussing any of that with you and your ilk because you will never listen to reason. You will shout down even the people on your side if they don't hold the exact level of extremism as you do until they throw their hands in the air and leave the thread. Then the thread will turn into a masturbatory discussion on all your toys with the other patriots.

Therefore I say...

*fart*

No hard feelings.


And yet, I'm all for:

- Improved background checks that invests in the infrastructure between all Law Enforcement Agencies and Courts in order to improve accuracy of NICS checks
- Increased funding for enforcement of existing laws regarding guns
- Increased mental health care availability
- Requirements for safe storage
- Requirements for safety training in order to obtain a firearm
- Requirements for universal background checks
- Ending the "War on Drugs" and legalizing drugs that do not cause physical harm
- Increased spending on urban renewal, job growth, training programs, and outreach for communities blighted by gang violence
- Increased penalties for committing crimes involving guns

I just don't see the need for additional bans that do nothing to actually stop the vast majority of gun crime.
 
2013-01-25 11:58:52 AM  
Well, obviously all laws are silly, because some people violate laws even when there are laws.
 
2013-01-25 11:59:12 AM  

Kit Fister: And yet, I'm all for:

- Improved background checks that invests in the infrastructure between all Law Enforcement Agencies and Courts in order to improve accuracy of NICS checks
- Increased funding for enforcement of existing laws regarding guns
- Increased mental health care availability
- Requirements for safe storage
- Requirements for safety training in order to obtain a firearm
- Requirements for universal background checks
- Ending the "War on Drugs" and legalizing drugs that do not cause physical harm
- Increased spending on urban renewal, job growth, training programs, and outreach for communities blighted by gang violence
- Increased penalties for committing crimes involving guns


Then we are more alike than I'm sure you want to admit.

The horror!
 
2013-01-25 12:04:59 PM  
i877.photobucket.com

I keep myself pleasantly groomed
 
2013-01-25 12:06:49 PM  

here to help: Kit Fister: And yet, I'm all for:

- Improved background checks that invests in the infrastructure between all Law Enforcement Agencies and Courts in order to improve accuracy of NICS checks
- Increased funding for enforcement of existing laws regarding guns
- Increased mental health care availability
- Requirements for safe storage
- Requirements for safety training in order to obtain a firearm
- Requirements for universal background checks
- Ending the "War on Drugs" and legalizing drugs that do not cause physical harm
- Increased spending on urban renewal, job growth, training programs, and outreach for communities blighted by gang violence
- Increased penalties for committing crimes involving guns

Then we are more alike than I'm sure you want to admit.

The horror!


And here's another one:

Abolish the National Guard. Citizens want to own so-called "Assault rifles"? Well, every citizen that is desiring to own them now also is volunteered for training in the use of an assault rifle and military tactics, and must train two weekends a month and two weeks a year as part of the Militia.

I'm okay with this.
 
2013-01-25 12:07:24 PM  

here to help: Kit Fister: And yet, I'm all for:

- Improved background checks that invests in the infrastructure between all Law Enforcement Agencies and Courts in order to improve accuracy of NICS checks
- Increased funding for enforcement of existing laws regarding guns
- Increased mental health care availability
- Requirements for safe storage
- Requirements for safety training in order to obtain a firearm
- Requirements for universal background checks
- Ending the "War on Drugs" and legalizing drugs that do not cause physical harm
- Increased spending on urban renewal, job growth, training programs, and outreach for communities blighted by gang violence
- Increased penalties for committing crimes involving guns

Then we are more alike than I'm sure you want to admit.

The horror!


I'm in agreement with all those things as well. The effort being put into "Ban the scary stuff that we have decided you don't 'need'" would be much more effectively used on the above, and would actually get the results, whereas a ban will not.

Seems like every time that comes up, the main response is, "Yes, we know. But we also really need to ban..." and 'round and 'round we go...
 
2013-01-25 12:08:55 PM  
Still, there were 177 shooting victims in the borough last year, resulting in 24 deaths.
 
2013-01-25 12:11:39 PM  

here to help: Kit Fister: And yet, I'm all for:

- Improved background checks that invests in the infrastructure between all Law Enforcement Agencies and Courts in order to improve accuracy of NICS checks
- Increased funding for enforcement of existing laws regarding guns
- Increased mental health care availability
- Requirements for safe storage
- Requirements for safety training in order to obtain a firearm
- Requirements for universal background checks
- Ending the "War on Drugs" and legalizing drugs that do not cause physical harm
- Increased spending on urban renewal, job growth, training programs, and outreach for communities blighted by gang violence
- Increased penalties for committing crimes involving guns

Then we are more alike than I'm sure you want to admit.

The horror!


Which of those requirements would have prevented Newtown?
 
2013-01-25 12:12:15 PM  
#3 and #4, easily.
 
2013-01-25 12:12:27 PM  

trappedspirit: Still, there were 177 shooting victims in the borough last year, resulting in 24 deaths.


And I'm sure none were done with the evil "assault rifles"
 
2013-01-25 12:13:12 PM  
What a NYC gun dealer might look like.
jamesriverfilm.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-25 12:13:49 PM  

Kit Fister: And here's another one:

Abolish the National Guard. Citizens want to own so-called "Assault rifles"? Well, every citizen that is desiring to own them now also is volunteered for training in the use of an assault rifle and military tactics, and must train two weekends a month and two weeks a year as part of the Militia.

I'm okay with this.


Then who will fight in a war in another country?
 
2013-01-25 12:14:23 PM  

Kit Fister: here to help: Kit Fister: And yet, I'm all for:

- Improved background checks that invests in the infrastructure between all Law Enforcement Agencies and Courts in order to improve accuracy of NICS checks
- Increased funding for enforcement of existing laws regarding guns
- Increased mental health care availability
- Requirements for safe storage
- Requirements for safety training in order to obtain a firearm
- Requirements for universal background checks
- Ending the "War on Drugs" and legalizing drugs that do not cause physical harm
- Increased spending on urban renewal, job growth, training programs, and outreach for communities blighted by gang violence
- Increased penalties for committing crimes involving guns

Then we are more alike than I'm sure you want to admit.

The horror!

And here's another one:

Abolish the National Guard. Citizens want to own so-called "Assault rifles"? Well, every citizen that is desiring to own them now also is volunteered for training in the use of an assault rifle and military tactics, and must train two weekends a month and two weeks a year as part of the Militia.

I'm okay with this.


The coast guard is not a militia. And along the same lines, if you own a car you must now spend 2 days a month using it as a taxi and complete taxi driver training as well. Just because I've decided it's the right thing to do.
 
2013-01-25 12:17:05 PM  

StoPPeRmobile:
Which of those requirements would have prevented Newtown?


Kit Fister: - Increased mental health care availability
- Requirements for safe storage

 
2013-01-25 12:18:12 PM  

Kit Fister: And here's another one:

Abolish the National Guard. Citizens want to own so-called "Assault rifles"? Well, every citizen that is desiring to own them now also is volunteered for training in the use of an assault rifle and military tactics, and must train two weekends a month and two weeks a year as part of the Militia.

I'm okay with this.


That'd be pretty funny.

You probably won't like this one but I've been contemplating it for a while now. I personally don't think anyone needs anything beyond some pistols for home and about town protection (preferably low capacity revolvers), rifles for hunting specific local game and a shotgun. Considering a lot of the talk surrounding the issue is that the people who want to own the super high powered military stuff for "sport" then sure... you can own them... but they have to be stored at the range. That way you can fire them whenever your heart desires but if you get drunk or have a mental breakdown you can't just grab it and go shooting up public places. To transport them you need to fill out paperwork and declare where they are being moved to and what the time frame will be. If they do not arrive at their destination in time you have now broken the law and a warrant is issued.

People get to play with whatever crazy gun they can afford and keep reasonable firepower for protection and hunting in their homes.
 
2013-01-25 12:20:56 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: Which of those requirements would have prevented Newtown?


That is one of the more obtuse arguments from the pro gun nuts. You can't stop all murders. You can lessen their frequency though.

Now say something intelligent or else I will unleash more anal vapors.
 
2013-01-25 12:23:42 PM  
What is a 'brazen gun' and do we need stronger laws governing their acquisition and use?
 
2013-01-25 12:27:25 PM  

here to help: Kit Fister: And here's another one:

Abolish the National Guard. Citizens want to own so-called "Assault rifles"? Well, every citizen that is desiring to own them now also is volunteered for training in the use of an assault rifle and military tactics, and must train two weekends a month and two weeks a year as part of the Militia.

I'm okay with this.

That'd be pretty funny.

You probably won't like this one but I've been contemplating it for a while now. I personally don't think anyone needs anything beyond some pistols for home and about town protection (preferably low capacity revolvers), rifles for hunting specific local game and a shotgun. Considering a lot of the talk surrounding the issue is that the people who want to own the super high powered military stuff for "sport" then sure... you can own them... but they have to be stored at the range. That way you can fire them whenever your heart desires but if you get drunk or have a mental breakdown you can't just grab it and go shooting up public places. To transport them you need to fill out paperwork and declare where they are being moved to and what the time frame will be. If they do not arrive at their destination in time you have now broken the law and a warrant is issued.

People get to play with whatever crazy gun they can afford and keep reasonable firepower for protection and hunting in their homes.


1. I happen to be fortunate enough to live just a few minutes from an indoor range. But it's only 25 yards, hardly a challenge for my .308. So, I travel to my family's property half an hour north of here when I want to shoot it. To my knowledge there is no 500 yard range within 6 hours of here.

2. The Newtown shooting unfolded in what a few minutes? How would this have prevented something like that? Yup, I'mma take my guns to this other range an hour from here...then I leave with them and go shoot up someplace.

3. What of the large portion of the country situated HOURS from a shooting range?
 
2013-01-25 12:27:29 PM  

Farkage: The coast guard is not a militia. And along the same lines, if you own a car you must now spend 2 days a month using it as a taxi and complete taxi driver training as well. Just because I've decided it's the right thing to do.


I didn't say COAST guard. I said NATIONAL guard. You know, the weekend warriors. The amateur leaguers they send to screw stuff up in Iraq and A-stan.

What I'm saying is, we have those of us who train and train and play with guns also stand in as the homeland defense rather than having a special paramilitary force which can be misused to fight wars, while also providing help and support during disasters, etc.

Better training, better availability of equipment, but at the same time, you have the requirement for training so that the nutjob 'tards get identified really fast and taken care of.

Sort of like Switzerland, except keeping a standing army for EXTERNAL defense.
 
2013-01-25 12:30:21 PM  

morgen_benner: 2. The Newtown shooting unfolded in what a few minutes? How would this have prevented something like that? Yup, I'mma take my guns to this other range an hour from here...then I leave with them and go shoot up someplace.


As I said... you can't stop all murders but you can reduce their frequency.


3. What of the large portion of the country situated HOURS from a shooting range?


Then there is a very good business opportunity for many folks. People drive out of their way to get to golf courses all the time. I think you can manage.
 
2013-01-25 12:30:48 PM  
All of my weapons are military based, including the black powder 50 cal rifle I use.
My favs are belt fed weapons like the maxim, but the tommy is fun too... It doesn't have a magazine or clip, it has a drum...
 
2013-01-25 12:31:06 PM  

iheartscotch: Gun control really only affects law-abiding citizens. If you think for one second that banning semi-automatic weapons will prevent crazies or criminals getting ahold of them; I've got a bridge in Brooklyn that I would sell you.

/ plus, a rock that prevents tiger attacks



I would really like one of those rocks.
 
2013-01-25 12:32:20 PM  
Sentell is caught on surveillance tape tossing the Remington .223-caliber rifle - along with its magazine clip and five rounds...The gun is the same caliber as the AR-15-style assault-weapon used in the Newtown massacre.

Really? Just HAD to throw that in.

Remington .223 caliber rifle:
img2.findthebest.com
 
2013-01-25 12:33:47 PM  

morgen_benner: 2. The Newtown shooting unfolded in what a few minutes?


Oh and that part of my proposal is aimed at keeping high powered weapons from being sold to/stolen by the filthy criminals ya'll claim to be so worried about.
 
2013-01-25 12:35:12 PM  

here to help: morgen_benner: 2. The Newtown shooting unfolded in what a few minutes?

Oh and that part of my proposal is aimed at keeping high powered weapons from being sold to/stolen by the filthy criminals ya'll claim to be so worried about.


frankly, there're enough options out there to store firearms securely and prevent the theft of weapons that casual theft should be extremely difficult. Someone should have to literally cut open your safe, or cut off a body part to steal your weapon, because it's secured in such a way as to be inaccessible by anyone.
 
2013-01-25 12:36:50 PM  

here to help: StoPPeRmobile: Which of those requirements would have prevented Newtown?

That is one of the more obtuse arguments from the pro gun nuts. You can't stop all murders. You can lessen their frequency though.

Now say something intelligent or else I will unleash more anal vapors.


Does this have something to do with criminals breaking laws?
 
2013-01-25 12:37:48 PM  

Kit Fister: Farkage: The coast guard is not a militia. And along the same lines, if you own a car you must now spend 2 days a month using it as a taxi and complete taxi driver training as well. Just because I've decided it's the right thing to do.

I didn't say COAST guard. I said NATIONAL guard. You know, the weekend warriors. The amateur leaguers they send to screw stuff up in Iraq and A-stan.

What I'm saying is, we have those of us who train and train and play with guns also stand in as the homeland defense rather than having a special paramilitary force which can be misused to fight wars, while also providing help and support during disasters, etc.

Better training, better availability of equipment, but at the same time, you have the requirement for training so that the nutjob 'tards get identified really fast and taken care of.

Sort of like Switzerland, except keeping a standing army for EXTERNAL defense.


My mistake, I meant National Guard. I was talking to someone while I typed that, but my statement of you "volunteering" for taxi duty still applies. Thank you for your service.
 
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