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2013-01-25 08:30:51 AM
"why we shouldn't clone a Neanderthal baby, even though nobody's planning to do so"

Wasn't there an article out just last week about a researcher who is seeking volunteers to have a Neanderthal baby?

Link
 
2013-01-25 08:47:12 AM
Some thought that the Harvard scientist, George Church, was getting ready to put out an ad seeking volunteer surrogate moms to bear a 35,000-year-old, long-extinct Neanderthal baby. Church had to walk his comments back and note that he was just speculating, not incubating.
 
2013-01-25 09:13:53 AM
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-25 09:20:50 AM
I read on FARK that we were. So it's true.
 
2013-01-25 10:04:42 AM

St_Francis_P: Some thought that the Harvard scientist, George Church, was getting ready to put out an ad seeking volunteer surrogate moms to bear a 35,000-year-old, long-extinct Neanderthal baby. Church had to walk his comments back and note that he was just speculating, not incubating.


Well of course the Church is going to be against it, they won't even admit the earth is over 6,000 years old much less 35.
 
2013-01-25 10:25:48 AM
Oh, look. The E.coli thing again. Ha ha ha, let's point and laugh at the silly conservative politician because he asked if some scientist's Frankenstonian experiments in evolving a race of super E.coli hadn't caused unexpected mutations. Ha ha ha, so funny.

Here's the thing, evolutionistas. Either you accept evolution, or you don't, mmmkay? If you accept evolution, then you accept that all cells are constantly in a state of flux, as it were, evolving into some future evolution along the evolutionary ladder. Or slope, as it were. Very slippery slope. After all, it's a popular notion that "humans evolved from apes." But from where did those apes evolve, hm? Don't know? Look to your own theories! Remember, Adam and Eve never existed. All life started as single cell micro-organisms swimming about in the oceans. And somehow *those* evolved into people, right? Neanderthals, too.

And so why *couldn't* an E.coli virus evolve into a human? Who's to say that, a million bajillion years from now or however long you want to pretend the earth is old, E.coli doesn't itself evolve into a person? Particularly if that E.coli had at some point in its generational evolution infected a human -- because then there would be humanistic DNA in its DNA, which could cause mutations that would bring more human genes to the forefront. From the E.coli would begin to emerge some new form of human, an E.human, and like modern humans did with the Neanderthals, perhaps these new E.humans will push "regular" humans into obsolescence and oblivion. And perhaps it would only be by pairing our current human DNA with Neanderthal DNA -- by merging our strength with the strength of our ancestors -- that we might ourselves evolve a race of Neandohumans who could stand up to the E.humans and preserve our race.

Still laughing, subby? I'm sure as hell not.
 
2013-01-25 10:31:25 AM

Pocket Ninja: Oh, look. The E.coli thing again. Ha ha ha, let's point and laugh at the silly conservative politician because he asked if some scientist's Frankenstonian experiments in evolving a race of super E.coli hadn't caused unexpected mutations. Ha ha ha, so funny.

Here's the thing, evolutionistas. Either you accept evolution, or you don't, mmmkay? If you accept evolution, then you accept that all cells are constantly in a state of flux, as it were, evolving into some future evolution along the evolutionary ladder. Or slope, as it were. Very slippery slope. After all, it's a popular notion that "humans evolved from apes." But from where did those apes evolve, hm? Don't know? Look to your own theories! Remember, Adam and Eve never existed. All life started as single cell micro-organisms swimming about in the oceans. And somehow *those* evolved into people, right? Neanderthals, too.

And so why *couldn't* an E.coli virus evolve into a human? Who's to say that, a million bajillion years from now or however long you want to pretend the earth is old, E.coli doesn't itself evolve into a person? Particularly if that E.coli had at some point in its generational evolution infected a human -- because then there would be humanistic DNA in its DNA, which could cause mutations that would bring more human genes to the forefront. From the E.coli would begin to emerge some new form of human, an E.human, and like modern humans did with the Neanderthals, perhaps these new E.humans will push "regular" humans into obsolescence and oblivion. And perhaps it would only be by pairing our current human DNA with Neanderthal DNA -- by merging our strength with the strength of our ancestors -- that we might ourselves evolve a race of Neandohumans who could stand up to the E.humans and preserve our race.

Still laughing, subby? I'm sure as hell not.


I bet you're a blast at parties!
 
2013-01-25 10:32:57 AM

Pocket Ninja: Oh, look. The E.coli thing again. Ha ha ha, let's point and laugh at the silly conservative politician because he asked if some scientist's Frankenstonian experiments in evolving a race of super E.coli hadn't caused unexpected mutations. Ha ha ha, so funny.

Here's the thing, evolutionistas. Either you accept evolution, or you don't, mmmkay? If you accept evolution, then you accept that all cells are constantly in a state of flux, as it were, evolving into some future evolution along the evolutionary ladder. Or slope, as it were. Very slippery slope. After all, it's a popular notion that "humans evolved from apes." But from where did those apes evolve, hm? Don't know? Look to your own theories! Remember, Adam and Eve never existed. All life started as single cell micro-organisms swimming about in the oceans. And somehow *those* evolved into people, right? Neanderthals, too.

And so why *couldn't* an E.coli virus evolve into a human? Who's to say that, a million bajillion years from now or however long you want to pretend the earth is old, E.coli doesn't itself evolve into a person? Particularly if that E.coli had at some point in its generational evolution infected a human -- because then there would be humanistic DNA in its DNA, which could cause mutations that would bring more human genes to the forefront. From the E.coli would begin to emerge some new form of human, an E.human, and like modern humans did with the Neanderthals, perhaps these new E.humans will push "regular" humans into obsolescence and oblivion. And perhaps it would only be by pairing our current human DNA with Neanderthal DNA -- by merging our strength with the strength of our ancestors -- that we might ourselves evolve a race of Neandohumans who could stand up to the E.humans and preserve our race.

Still laughing, subby? I'm sure as hell not.


I don't think you get how viruses work. Nice science fiction novel concept though
 
2013-01-25 10:33:28 AM

Pocket Ninja: Oh, look. The E.coli thing again. Ha ha ha, let's point and laugh at the silly conservative politician because he asked if some scientist's Frankenstonian experiments in evolving a race of super E.coli hadn't caused unexpected mutations. Ha ha ha, so funny.

Here's the thing, evolutionistas. Either you accept evolution, or you don't, mmmkay? If you accept evolution, then you accept that all cells are constantly in a state of flux, as it were, evolving into some future evolution along the evolutionary ladder. Or slope, as it were. Very slippery slope. After all, it's a popular notion that "humans evolved from apes." But from where did those apes evolve, hm? Don't know? Look to your own theories! Remember, Adam and Eve never existed. All life started as single cell micro-organisms swimming about in the oceans. And somehow *those* evolved into people, right? Neanderthals, too.

And so why *couldn't* an E.coli virus evolve into a human? Who's to say that, a million bajillion years from now or however long you want to pretend the earth is old, E.coli doesn't itself evolve into a person? Particularly if that E.coli had at some point in its generational evolution infected a human -- because then there would be humanistic DNA in its DNA, which could cause mutations that would bring more human genes to the forefront. From the E.coli would begin to emerge some new form of human, an E.human, and like modern humans did with the Neanderthals, perhaps these new E.humans will push "regular" humans into obsolescence and oblivion. And perhaps it would only be by pairing our current human DNA with Neanderthal DNA -- by merging our strength with the strength of our ancestors -- that we might ourselves evolve a race of Neandohumans who could stand up to the E.humans and preserve our race.

Still laughing, subby? I'm sure as hell not.


Are there really people out there who believe humans evolved from apes?

Also, i see scientific validity in cloning a neanderthal. Studying their sexual behavior would be the most valid reason.
 
2013-01-25 10:34:45 AM
Well we cant do any of that right now anyways. Everyone knows that scientists are busy making super AIDS!!!!!
 
2013-01-25 10:35:26 AM

JrNeutron: Pocket Ninja: Oh, look. The E.coli thing again. Ha ha ha, let's point and laugh at the silly conservative politician because he asked if some scientist's Frankenstonian experiments in evolving a race of super E.coli hadn't caused unexpected mutations. Ha ha ha, so funny.

Here's the thing, evolutionistas. Either you accept evolution, or you don't, mmmkay? If you accept evolution, then you accept that all cells are constantly in a state of flux, as it were, evolving into some future evolution along the evolutionary ladder. Or slope, as it were. Very slippery slope. After all, it's a popular notion that "humans evolved from apes." But from where did those apes evolve, hm? Don't know? Look to your own theories! Remember, Adam and Eve never existed. All life started as single cell micro-organisms swimming about in the oceans. And somehow *those* evolved into people, right? Neanderthals, too.

And so why *couldn't* an E.coli virus evolve into a human? Who's to say that, a million bajillion years from now or however long you want to pretend the earth is old, E.coli doesn't itself evolve into a person? Particularly if that E.coli had at some point in its generational evolution infected a human -- because then there would be humanistic DNA in its DNA, which could cause mutations that would bring more human genes to the forefront. From the E.coli would begin to emerge some new form of human, an E.human, and like modern humans did with the Neanderthals, perhaps these new E.humans will push "regular" humans into obsolescence and oblivion. And perhaps it would only be by pairing our current human DNA with Neanderthal DNA -- by merging our strength with the strength of our ancestors -- that we might ourselves evolve a race of Neandohumans who could stand up to the E.humans and preserve our race.

Still laughing, subby? I'm sure as hell not.

I don't think you get how viruses work. Nice science fiction novel concept though


I don't think you get how Pocket Ninja works.
 
2013-01-25 10:35:27 AM
Humans from e. Coli? How shiatty.
 
2013-01-25 10:35:41 AM

Phineas: Are there really people out there who believe humans evolved from apes?


It's probably the most often-quoted strawman by conservatives.
 
2013-01-25 10:36:44 AM
I am against this for different reasons than most.

I think it would be cruel to raise a living Neanderthal in modern society. He/she would have rights, but perhaps not the wherewithal to use them. Raising a human to live an institutional life just to see how it would behave? That just seems barbaric.
 
2013-01-25 10:37:09 AM

Pocket Ninja: From the E.coli would begin to emerge some new form of human, an E.human, and like modern humans did with the Neanderthals, perhaps these new E.humans will push "regular" humans into obsolescence and oblivion.


There's no maybe about it. Ever hear of genetic memory? These E.humans sure as hell would have. They'd remember to kill people sure as their ancient single-celled ancestors used to. It's the same way all humans have a strange desire to kill and punish lizards and other reptiles. It's because we remember the dinosaurs that used to eat us alive. These things get passed down.
 
2013-01-25 10:37:38 AM

LincolnLogolas: Humans from e. Coli? How shiatty.


They'll be able to swing from lampposts and wrap you in their wildly whipping flagella. Fortunately they will be easily controlled with simple soap and water.
 
2013-01-25 10:38:27 AM

madgonad: I am against this for different reasons than most.

I think it would be cruel to raise a living Neanderthal in modern society. He/she would have rights, but perhaps not the wherewithal to use them. Raising a human to live an institutional life just to see how it would behave? That just seems barbaric.


"The Ungly Little Boy" nods knowingly.
 
2013-01-25 10:39:04 AM
"Ugly". Grrr.
 
2013-01-25 10:40:50 AM

p the boiler: I don't think you get how Pocket Ninja works.


We all know how PN works. We just got jarred out of the story by calling e. Coli a virus. He is usually much more subtle in crafting his story. We all enjoy the big finish he has in store for us. Probably hung over from a thirsty thursday...
 
2013-01-25 10:42:44 AM

p the boiler: JrNeutron: Pocket Ninja: Oh, look. The E.coli thing again. Ha ha ha, let's point and laugh at the silly conservative politician because he asked if some scientist's Frankenstonian experiments in evolving a race of super E.coli hadn't caused unexpected mutations. Ha ha ha, so funny.

Here's the thing, evolutionistas. Either you accept evolution, or you don't, mmmkay? If you accept evolution, then you accept that all cells are constantly in a state of flux, as it were, evolving into some future evolution along the evolutionary ladder. Or slope, as it were. Very slippery slope. After all, it's a popular notion that "humans evolved from apes." But from where did those apes evolve, hm? Don't know? Look to your own theories! Remember, Adam and Eve never existed. All life started as single cell micro-organisms swimming about in the oceans. And somehow *those* evolved into people, right? Neanderthals, too.

And so why *couldn't* an E.coli virus evolve into a human? Who's to say that, a million bajillion years from now or however long you want to pretend the earth is old, E.coli doesn't itself evolve into a person? Particularly if that E.coli had at some point in its generational evolution infected a human -- because then there would be humanistic DNA in its DNA, which could cause mutations that would bring more human genes to the forefront. From the E.coli would begin to emerge some new form of human, an E.human, and like modern humans did with the Neanderthals, perhaps these new E.humans will push "regular" humans into obsolescence and oblivion. And perhaps it would only be by pairing our current human DNA with Neanderthal DNA -- by merging our strength with the strength of our ancestors -- that we might ourselves evolve a race of Neandohumans who could stand up to the E.humans and preserve our race.

Still laughing, subby? I'm sure as hell not.

I don't think you get how viruses work. Nice science fiction novel concept though

I don't think you get how Pocket Ninja works.


The trick is to not to fav certain Farkers. That way you get to experience the knee-jerk once in a while.
 
2013-01-25 10:42:45 AM

Pocket Ninja: Oh, look. The E.coli thing again. Ha ha ha, let's point and laugh at the silly conservative politician because he asked if some scientist's Frankenstonian experiments in evolving a race of super E.coli hadn't caused unexpected mutations. Ha ha ha, so funny.

Here's the thing, evolutionistas. Either you accept evolution, or you don't, mmmkay? If you accept evolution, then you accept that all cells are constantly in a state of flux, as it were, evolving into some future evolution along the evolutionary ladder. Or slope, as it were. Very slippery slope. After all, it's a popular notion that "humans evolved from apes." But from where did those apes evolve, hm? Don't know? Look to your own theories! Remember, Adam and Eve never existed. All life started as single cell micro-organisms swimming about in the oceans. And somehow *those* evolved into people, right? Neanderthals, too.

And so why *couldn't* an E.coli virus evolve into a human? Who's to say that, a million bajillion years from now or however long you want to pretend the earth is old, E.coli doesn't itself evolve into a person? Particularly if that E.coli had at some point in its generational evolution infected a human -- because then there would be humanistic DNA in its DNA, which could cause mutations that would bring more human genes to the forefront. From the E.coli would begin to emerge some new form of human, an E.human, and like modern humans did with the Neanderthals, perhaps these new E.humans will push "regular" humans into obsolescence and oblivion. And perhaps it would only be by pairing our current human DNA with Neanderthal DNA -- by merging our strength with the strength of our ancestors -- that we might ourselves evolve a race of Neandohumans who could stand up to the E.humans and preserve our race.

Still laughing, subby? I'm sure as hell not.


11/10. Would read troll-post again.

Extra credit for the word "evolutionistas".
 
2013-01-25 10:45:04 AM

theorellior: madgonad: I am against this for different reasons than most.

I think it would be cruel to raise a living Neanderthal in modern society. He/she would have rights, but perhaps not the wherewithal to use them. Raising a human to live an institutional life just to see how it would behave? That just seems barbaric.

"The Ungly Little Boy" nods knowingly.


At least that was a child transported through time. Cloning a Neanderthal would have zero societal benefit from the extinct Neanderthal culture. It would literally be a lump of biological clay - with behavior more determined by limitation than what would have been 'normal'.

Or perhaps we would be totally surprised and the Neanderthal would grow up to be a Rhodes Scholar and write papers on chauvinism based upon species.
 
2013-01-25 10:46:00 AM

a_room_with_a_moose: 11/10. Would read troll-post again.


He is not a troll - he is an artist.
 
2013-01-25 10:49:16 AM

madgonad: Or perhaps we would be totally surprised and the Neanderthal would grow up to be a Rhodes Scholar and write papers on chauvinism based upon species.


lusipurr.com
Or a lawyer.
 
2013-01-25 10:49:31 AM

madgonad: Or perhaps we would be totally surprised and the Neanderthal would grow up to be a Rhodes Scholar and write papers on chauvinism based upon species.


You're looking at the world through Rhodes-Scholared glasses.
 
2013-01-25 10:51:42 AM

madgonad: a_room_with_a_moose: 11/10. Would read troll-post again.

He is not a troll - he is an artist.


I agree. Still trolling.
 
2013-01-25 10:52:02 AM

NutWrench: Phineas: Are there really people out there who believe humans evolved from apes?

It's probably the most often-quoted strawman by conservatives.


Really? How exactly does this particular strawman work? "Humans didnt come from apes therefore evolution doesn't exist"?
 
2013-01-25 10:53:23 AM
How is neanderbabby formed? How human girl get pragnent?
 
2013-01-25 10:55:18 AM

Phineas: NutWrench: Phineas: Are there really people out there who believe humans evolved from apes?

It's probably the most often-quoted strawman by conservatives.

Really? How exactly does this particular strawman work? "Humans didnt come from apes therefore evolution doesn't exist"?


No, it's the assertion that humans "evolved from apes." That's demonstrably false. Humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor.
 
2013-01-25 10:58:41 AM

NutWrench: No, it's the assertion that humans "evolved from apes." That's demonstrably false. Humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor.


[pedantic] Humans are apes. We are Old World primates with no tails. The term "ape" is a superfamily designation, not a species. Other ape species include gorillas, chimps, gibbons and orangutans. All of these species evolved from a common ancestor, but we're all still apes. [/pedantic]
 
2013-01-25 10:58:45 AM

NutWrench: Phineas: NutWrench: Phineas: Are there really people out there who believe humans evolved from apes?

It's probably the most often-quoted strawman by conservatives.

Really? How exactly does this particular strawman work? "Humans didnt come from apes therefore evolution doesn't exist"?

No, it's the assertion that humans "evolved from apes." That's demonstrably false. Humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor.


So conservatives would attempt to disprove evolution by stating that humans evolved from apes? I'm not getting the strawman here
 
2013-01-25 10:58:47 AM

Pocket Ninja: Oh, look. The E.coli thing again. Ha ha ha, let's point and laugh at the silly conservative politician because he asked if some scientist's Frankenstonian experiments in evolving a race of super E.coli hadn't caused unexpected mutations. Ha ha ha, so funny.

Here's the thing, evolutionistas. Either you accept evolution, or you don't, mmmkay? If you accept evolution, then you accept that all cells are constantly in a state of flux, as it were, evolving into some future evolution along the evolutionary ladder. Or slope, as it were. Very slippery slope. After all, it's a popular notion that "humans evolved from apes." But from where did those apes evolve, hm? Don't know? Look to your own theories! Remember, Adam and Eve never existed. All life started as single cell micro-organisms swimming about in the oceans. And somehow *those* evolved into people, right? Neanderthals, too.

And so why *couldn't* an E.coli virus evolve into a human? Who's to say that, a million bajillion years from now or however long you want to pretend the earth is old, E.coli doesn't itself evolve into a person? Particularly if that E.coli had at some point in its generational evolution infected a human -- because then there would be humanistic DNA in its DNA, which could cause mutations that would bring more human genes to the forefront. From the E.coli would begin to emerge some new form of human, an E.human, and like modern humans did with the Neanderthals, perhaps these new E.humans will push "regular" humans into obsolescence and oblivion. And perhaps it would only be by pairing our current human DNA with Neanderthal DNA -- by merging our strength with the strength of our ancestors -- that we might ourselves evolve a race of Neandohumans who could stand up to the E.humans and preserve our race.

Still laughing, subby? I'm sure as hell not.


Did you forget to take your meds again?
 
2013-01-25 10:59:24 AM

NutWrench: Phineas: Are there really people out there who believe humans evolved from apes?

It's probably the most often-quoted strawman by conservatives.


You are so wrong. Welfare strawman is where it's at.

/ba dum dum
 
2013-01-25 10:59:33 AM

NutWrench: No, it's the assertion that humans "evolved from apes." That's demonstrably false.


Then how come this assertion hasn't evolved into a better one yet?
 
2013-01-25 10:59:42 AM
First a mammoth must be cloned so the child will have something good to eat.
Then make a bunch of em to field football teams and/or riot squads.

/it's what they do
 
2013-01-25 10:59:53 AM
Wasn't this a Pauly Shore movie?
 
2013-01-25 11:00:38 AM

StoPPeRmobile: You are so wrong. Welfare strawman is where it's at.


Stop bickering, you too. When conservatives argue, they use all the strawmen!
 
2013-01-25 11:03:39 AM

Phineas: Really? How exactly does this particular strawman work? "Humans didnt come from apes therefore evolution doesn't exist"?


"If we came from apes, why are there still apes?! Why didn't they all evolve, Mr Smartypants?"
/oh yes, I've heard that one
 
2013-01-25 11:06:03 AM
Actually, I think a Neanderthal would perform fairly well in our society. Evidence suggests that they're faster, stronger, and just as intelligent (If not moreso) as modern humans. It's been awhile, but I remember one of my biology professors talking about our distinct advantage being a longer development time, which forced community-building and education.

However, imagine being the only thing in the world that doesn't have single peer. That could bring some terrible psychological ailments.
 
2013-01-25 11:06:17 AM
I just so love it when some hack "journalist" acts as if science fiction scenarios could ever actually happen IRL.

In the very least they should change up the scenarios once in a while, like someone should argue that we should just accept the occupation from the hyper-evolved fascists from the future with an old school but snappy fashion sense.
 
2013-01-25 11:07:31 AM
I am currently incubating a new species of human/sweatsock hybrids next to my bed. No donor/mom required......
 
2013-01-25 11:19:23 AM

Phineas: NutWrench: Phineas: NutWrench: Phineas: Are there really people out there who believe humans evolved from apes?

It's probably the most often-quoted strawman by conservatives.

Really? How exactly does this particular strawman work? "Humans didnt come from apes therefore evolution doesn't exist"?

No, it's the assertion that humans "evolved from apes." That's demonstrably false. Humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor.

So conservatives would attempt to disprove evolution by stating that humans evolved from apes? I'm not getting the strawman here


The strawman is that the creationists imply that humans evolved from one of the living, modern species of apes.  We did not.  Chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas, orangutans, gibbons, and siamangs are all apes, and so are humans.  We have increasingly distant "cousin" relationships with them, but none of them are the ancestors of any of the others.

If you re-phrase the question in more familiar terms, the flaw is more obvious.  "Your cousin is your grandfather" is clearly a false statement (for most of us, at least), but your cousin and you both descend from a shared ancestor- that ancestor was neither you nor your cousin, but your mutual grandparent.

If you remove the false implication that the living, extant species of apes are the only ones, and instead include the extinct species of apes, then humans did in fact evolve from "apes," just not any of the modern ones.  We descend from several species of apes that are now extinct.

So the strawman comes from the implicit limitation of the category "apes" to "modern apes."  Remove that limitation and the statement is accurate.
 
2013-01-25 11:19:45 AM

NFA: "why we shouldn't clone a Neanderthal baby, even though nobody's planning to do so"

Wasn't there an article out just last week about a researcher who is seeking volunteers to have a Neanderthal baby?

Link


*facepalm*
 
2013-01-25 11:23:43 AM

Pocket Ninja: Oh, look. The E.coli thing again. Ha ha ha, let's point and laugh at the silly conservative politician because he asked if some scientist's Frankenstonian experiments in evolving a race of super E.coli hadn't caused unexpected mutations. Ha ha ha, so funny.

Here's the thing, evolutionistas. Either you accept evolution, or you don't, mmmkay? If you accept evolution, then you accept that all cells are constantly in a state of flux, as it were, evolving into some future evolution along the evolutionary ladder. Or slope, as it were. Very slippery slope. After all, it's a popular notion that "humans evolved from apes." But from where did those apes evolve, hm? Don't know? Look to your own theories! Remember, Adam and Eve never existed. All life started as single cell micro-organisms swimming about in the oceans. And somehow *those* evolved into people, right? Neanderthals, too.

And so why *couldn't* an E.coli virus evolve into a human? Who's to say that, a million bajillion years from now or however long you want to pretend the earth is old, E.coli doesn't itself evolve into a person? Particularly if that E.coli had at some point in its generational evolution infected a human -- because then there would be humanistic DNA in its DNA, which could cause mutations that would bring more human genes to the forefront. From the E.coli would begin to emerge some new form of human, an E.human, and like modern humans did with the Neanderthals, perhaps these new E.humans will push "regular" humans into obsolescence and oblivion. And perhaps it would only be by pairing our current human DNA with Neanderthal DNA -- by merging our strength with the strength of our ancestors -- that we might ourselves evolve a race of Neandohumans who could stand up to the E.humans and preserve our race.

Still laughing, subby? I'm sure as hell not.


I definitely am!   Started off a bit slow, but the dénouement was brilliant.
 
2013-01-25 11:25:15 AM

theorellior: NutWrench: No, it's the assertion that humans "evolved from apes." That's demonstrably false. Humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor.

[pedantic] Humans are apes. We are Old World primates with no tails. The term "ape" is a superfamily designation, not a species. Other ape species include gorillas, chimps, gibbons and orangutans. All of these species evolved from a common ancestor, but we're all still apes. [/pedantic]


Hey, I enjoyed Intro to Anthropology too.

img.geocaching.com
 
2013-01-25 11:25:45 AM

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: madgonad: Or perhaps we would be totally surprised and the Neanderthal would grow up to be a Rhodes Scholar and write papers on chauvinism based upon species.

You're looking at the world through Rhodes-Scholared glasses.


i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-25 11:27:18 AM
Don't we already live with neanderthals?

nyopoliticker.files.wordpress.com

HEYYYYOOOOOOOOO!!!
 
2013-01-25 11:27:32 AM

Coolfusis: Actually, I think a Neanderthal would perform fairly well in our society. Evidence suggests that they're faster, stronger, and just as intelligent (If not moreso) as modern humans. It's been awhile, but I remember one of my biology professors talking about our distinct advantage being a longer development time, which forced community-building and education.


Don't forget the glorious boobs.

www.bookofodds.com

/boobs
 
2013-01-25 11:46:10 AM
the CNN Comedy Hour
mediamemo.allthingsd.com
 
2013-01-25 11:54:38 AM
FloydA

The strawman is that the creationists imply that humans evolved from one of the living, modern species of apes. .

I see, thank you. As a conservative, it often amuses me to see what generalizations liberals like to apply to conservatives. Thank you for making the distinction between creationists and conservatives, since my desire for smaller government, lower taxes, and strong foreign policy are completely separate from my belief that my great great grandfather was a modern orangutan
 
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