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2013-01-25 10:16:31 AM
"And the damndest thing is , I can live with that. I can live with that. I CAN live with that."

www.thechoad.com
 
2013-01-25 11:25:19 AM
I've been trying to think of fun things I can do to my neighbor who's running a Linksys router with all the default configs.  Would changing the SSID to "Belkin" be too subtle?
 
2013-01-25 11:29:56 AM
And then they sang a song about thongs.
 
2013-01-25 11:35:32 AM
They can call it Linkin. I don't think that's taken.
 
2013-01-25 11:36:44 AM

serial_crusher: I've been trying to think of fun things I can do to my neighbor who's running a Linksys router with all the default configs.  Would changing the SSID to "Belkin" be too subtle?


My co-worker thought it would be funny to name his new router "Completely_Unhackable". A week later, he saw that it had been changed to "Challenge_Accepted".
 
2013-01-25 11:46:24 AM
That stuff's only good for frying chicken and makeshift anal lube anyway.
 
2013-01-25 12:03:34 PM

pkellmey: serial_crusher: I've been trying to think of fun things I can do to my neighbor who's running a Linksys router with all the default configs.  Would changing the SSID to "Belkin" be too subtle?

My co-worker thought it would be funny to name his new router "Completely_Unhackable". A week later, he saw that it had been changed to "Challenge_Accepted".


You. Magnificent. Bastards.

Awesome both of you.
 
2013-01-25 12:08:00 PM

pkellmey: serial_crusher: I've been trying to think of fun things I can do to my neighbor who's running a Linksys router with all the default configs.  Would changing the SSID to "Belkin" be too subtle?

My co-worker thought it would be funny to name his new router "Completely_Unhackable". A week later, he saw that it had been changed to "Challenge_Accepted".


My router's name is "CommunityPornServer" and I made the password ridiculously easy to guess. Then, I just watch the traffic and boot my freeloading neighbors when they're doing something important.

And, it's fun to get a glance of what they do online.
 
2013-01-25 12:24:32 PM

Shazam999: They can call it Linkin. I don't think that's taken.


It's all fun and games until someone writes the Booth Virus.

/Sic Semper Tyrannis!
 
2013-01-25 12:25:34 PM
i.imgur.com

Here's what Linksys and Belkin and Netgear and D-Link and all the other $30 plasticy, chintzy, sweat shop grade, locking up every few hours garbage ass routers can all go do with themselves.
 
2013-01-25 12:44:39 PM
@theurge14: I haven't yet found a Linksys or Belkin router that didn't start losing its mind after a 1-2 years of heavy residential usage (200-400 GB per month WAN, 500 GB - 1 TB per month LAN). Probably failing capacitors as a result of running too hot.

My next router will be ASUS (the model I'm looking at has a big-ass heatsink inside) and if that dies then I'm taking the leap to Sonicwall.
 
2013-01-25 12:52:28 PM

F1_Fan: @theurge14: I haven't yet found a Linksys or Belkin router that didn't start losing its mind after a 1-2 years of heavy residential usage (200-400 GB per month WAN, 500 GB - 1 TB per month LAN). Probably failing capacitors as a result of running too hot.

My next router will be ASUS (the model I'm looking at has a big-ass heatsink inside) and if that dies then I'm taking the leap to Sonicwall.


thinking about getting an ASUS myself. Know if they work well with dd-wrt firmware?
 
2013-01-25 12:57:07 PM
Considering that Cisco made a reputation for themselves as a networking and infrastructure company, they really managed to kill what good was left in Linksys when they bought it. Just like they did with Flip Video.

TheAlmightyOS: thinking about getting an ASUS myself. Know if they work well with dd-wrt firmware?


I have the Asus RT-N66R. Yes, it should work with DD-WRT.
 
2013-01-25 12:58:45 PM

Shazam999: They can call it Linkin. I don't think that's taken.


Sadly, the first thing I thought of when I read that.
 
2013-01-25 01:05:06 PM
How is the Asus ones?
 
2013-01-25 01:07:01 PM

RexTalionis: Considering that Cisco made a reputation for themselves as a networking and infrastructure company, they really managed to kill what good was left in Linksys when they bought it. Just like they did with Flip Video.

TheAlmightyOS: thinking about getting an ASUS myself. Know if they work well with dd-wrt firmware?

I have the Asus RT-N66R. Yes, it should work with DD-WRT.


Flip video was a stupid buy, concieved of by people who didn't see the progress of mobile tech. Then they put the flip ceo in charge of linksys and he killed all the projects he didn't like and jumped out the window with his golden parachute after eighteen months leaving smoking wreckage behind.
 
2013-01-25 01:09:18 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: How is the Asus ones?


Excellent. If you're willing to pay for the premium, that is.
 
2013-01-25 01:09:37 PM
I have an Ubiquiti Routerstation Pro that's about 3 years old and sitting in my unfinished basement. It's taken a bit of a beating and is covered in cobwebs but I think it's going to run forever. Paid a boatload for it ($150) but runs OpenWRT perfectly.

They're not being made anymore, but if you can find one on ebay, it's worth picking up.

/no wireless on board, you have to get a minipci card and antennas to do that
 
2013-01-25 01:11:38 PM

RexTalionis: Considering that Cisco made a reputation for themselves as a networking and infrastructure company, they really managed to kill what good was left in Linksys when they bought it. Just like they did with Flip Video.

TheAlmightyOS: thinking about getting an ASUS myself. Know if they work well with dd-wrt firmware?

I have the Asus RT-N66R. Yes, it should work with DD-WRT.


Nice. Thanks for the info. I have been looking at a RT-N66U. Knowing that I think I want to pick one up now.

People say the stock firmware is great after update but I got dd-wrt on all my other routers. There is something to be said about having one uniform interface across your whole network.
 
2013-01-25 01:19:09 PM

TheAlmightyOS: RexTalionis: Considering that Cisco made a reputation for themselves as a networking and infrastructure company, they really managed to kill what good was left in Linksys when they bought it. Just like they did with Flip Video.

TheAlmightyOS: thinking about getting an ASUS myself. Know if they work well with dd-wrt firmware?

I have the Asus RT-N66R. Yes, it should work with DD-WRT.

Nice. Thanks for the info. I have been looking at a RT-N66U. Knowing that I think I want to pick one up now.

People say the stock firmware is great after update but I got dd-wrt on all my other routers. There is something to be said about having one uniform interface across your whole network.


The RT-N66R (which is the same thing as the N66U, except it had a separate SKU because it is sold at brick and mortar retailers instead of online) has some really neat features in its stock firmware. For example, it gives you 2 USB ports and gives you the option to use a 3G or 4G cellular data adapter (you know, the kind that plugs into laptops for portable data) in case the regular network fails.
 
2013-01-25 01:22:40 PM

F1_Fan: @theurge14: I haven't yet found a Linksys or Belkin router that didn't start losing its mind after a 1-2 years of heavy residential usage (200-400 GB per month WAN, 500 GB - 1 TB per month LAN). Probably failing capacitors as a result of running too hot.

My next router will be ASUS (the model I'm looking at has a big-ass heatsink inside) and if that dies then I'm taking the leap to Sonicwall.


WTH are you doing with your routers, installing it above a heating duct? I had a netgear I used for about 5 years, with only a few restarts here and there. Upgraded to a Linksys w/ gig ports and I've been using that flawlessly for about 2.5 years.
 
2013-01-25 01:26:50 PM

RexTalionis: TheAlmightyOS: RexTalionis: Considering that Cisco made a reputation for themselves as a networking and infrastructure company, they really managed to kill what good was left in Linksys when they bought it. Just like they did with Flip Video.

TheAlmightyOS: thinking about getting an ASUS myself. Know if they work well with dd-wrt firmware?

I have the Asus RT-N66R. Yes, it should work with DD-WRT.

Nice. Thanks for the info. I have been looking at a RT-N66U. Knowing that I think I want to pick one up now.

People say the stock firmware is great after update but I got dd-wrt on all my other routers. There is something to be said about having one uniform interface across your whole network.

The RT-N66R (which is the same thing as the N66U, except it had a separate SKU because it is sold at brick and mortar retailers instead of online) has some really neat features in its stock firmware. For example, it gives you 2 USB ports and gives you the option to use a 3G or 4G cellular data adapter (you know, the kind that plugs into laptops for portable data) in case the regular network fails.


I also heard it has something called "optware". Basically software modules you can install to add functionality like basic ftp and html servers. Very interested to see that in action. That and a USB HDD enclosure would completely replace the Athlon box I keep around for NAS and FTP
 
2013-01-25 01:33:28 PM

Kimpak: WTH are you doing with your routers, installing it above a heating duct? I had a netgear I used for about 5 years, with only a few restarts here and there. Upgraded to a Linksys w/ gig ports and I've been using that flawlessly for about 2.5 years.


I have nothing but problem with consumer-grade routers and modems as well. The modem provided by Comcast (one of those little square, gray, fanless boxes) was down to strugging to maintain 1 Mbps downstream within 6 months. I've gone through 3 modems in 5 years. Had a Linksys that finally failed after about a prior 3 years of us, lost the decent Netgear modem that replaced it when the wall wort failed and fried it, the $40 Netgear PoS I replaced it with the same day couldn't go more than 2 or 3 days at most without the radio shutting off for no apparent reason and now I'm back to the original Netgear model hoping that the wall wort is better quality.

I do not understand why it's so hard to get a quality wifi router and cable modem in this country. I cannot be the only person out there who is concerned with more than just getting the lowest possible price...
 
2013-01-25 01:35:20 PM
Derp... that second round of products (Linksys and Netgear stuff) is a list of wifi routers that failed, not modems.

So in 5 years I've had 4 routers and 2 modems.
 
2013-01-25 01:35:33 PM

TheAlmightyOS: RexTalionis: TheAlmightyOS: RexTalionis: Considering that Cisco made a reputation for themselves as a networking and infrastructure company, they really managed to kill what good was left in Linksys when they bought it. Just like they did with Flip Video.

TheAlmightyOS: thinking about getting an ASUS myself. Know if they work well with dd-wrt firmware?

I have the Asus RT-N66R. Yes, it should work with DD-WRT.

Nice. Thanks for the info. I have been looking at a RT-N66U. Knowing that I think I want to pick one up now.

People say the stock firmware is great after update but I got dd-wrt on all my other routers. There is something to be said about having one uniform interface across your whole network.

The RT-N66R (which is the same thing as the N66U, except it had a separate SKU because it is sold at brick and mortar retailers instead of online) has some really neat features in its stock firmware. For example, it gives you 2 USB ports and gives you the option to use a 3G or 4G cellular data adapter (you know, the kind that plugs into laptops for portable data) in case the regular network fails.

I also heard it has something called "optware". Basically software modules you can install to add functionality like basic ftp and html servers. Very interested to see that in action. That and a USB HDD enclosure would completely replace the Athlon box I keep around for NAS and FTP


I haven't messed around with it much yet, but it does have a built in DLNA and Samba server as well as a USB print server built in to the stock firmware. There is a USB installer for additional modules, but I don't have anything installed on it yet.
 
2013-01-25 01:37:10 PM

Shazam999


They can call it Linkin. I don't think that's taken.


The domain's been Parked.
 
2013-01-25 01:39:09 PM
Looks like its netgear for me.. although I'll check out asus on my next purchase. Or anything else that pops up on radar. Personally I can't think of any other router brands except belkin, netgear, and linksys (rated worst to best in that order).

Ive been happy with my netgear WNDR3400v2 that I picked up early last year. Spent a little money so I can get the whole upper band for my laptop alone (family is on the lower band still with G devices) and was happy to find that unlike every single netgear and linksys I had in the past, this model netgear has not been locking up or the wifi mysteriously becoming unresponsive. It does crash about 2-3 times a month but at least when it does crash, it has no problems rebooting itself (easy to tell cause the huge glowing blue button on the side lights backup). Also I am relying on the portable usb drive I plugged into it way more then I thought I would.
 
2013-01-25 01:40:12 PM
Asus is a pretty good brand, but I would recommend Ubiquiti. I use some of their access points in enterprise applications, and they work great.
 
2013-01-25 01:45:53 PM

finnished: Asus is a pretty good brand, but I would recommend Ubiquiti. I use some of their access points in enterprise applications, and they work great.


Have you tried their AirRouter home router?

I ask because my Linksys is on the fritz and I hear good things about Ubiquiti.
 
2013-01-25 01:47:05 PM

theurge14: [i.imgur.com image 335x333]

Here's what Linksys and Belkin and Netgear and D-Link and all the other $30 plasticy, chintzy, sweat shop grade, locking up every few hours garbage ass routers can all go do with themselves.


Well, I completely agree that Belkin is garbage... I've been boycotting them for years after the BS they gave me for one of their devices. (and that every time I've had to deal with someone else's Belkin crap, it's always a pain).

Linksys is a question of how the mighty has fallen... I've had more Linksys routers and ports/hubs die on me that I'd like to remember (heck I have two dead device at my desk right now). Never again...

I've had a D-Link router that lasted me about a year, and while it worked, it was not too bad, but 1 year is too short a lifespan, so they lost a lot of points for me due to this.

I have a Netgear (N600) at the office right now, and it has been actually excellent... aside the fact that this is the second one as the first one was defective out of the box. But since lemons can happen I was willing to give it another chance and so far (a good 6 months I think) so good.

My D-link at home was replaced with a TP-Link (N750) for about 2-3 months now and it's been quite good... doubled my WIFI transfer speed, as where I had about 6-7MBps with the D-Link, I've gotten up to 15MBps.

I have a Western Digital (N600) still in the box as a backup (exchanged with the D-Link after I did find my receipt), which had good reviews, but unless the TP-Link dies, it's a paperweight.

I have to wonder if this will impact the Apple routers, as most use the Linksys chips. (unless that's changed)
 
2013-01-25 01:50:50 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: I do not understand why it's so hard to get a quality wifi router and cable modem in this country. I cannot be the only person out there who is concerned with more than just getting the lowest possible price...


Most of us have no issues at all with our $30 Netgear or Linksys routers and switches.

I've had my share of cable modems fail. They fail because the TWC signal is too low when it is working, and lightning likes to come down the coax when it is not working.

Frankly, the commercial grade cisco gear my fortune 500 uses fails ten times as much, and in ways that I cannot imagine anyone letting through QA.
 
2013-01-25 01:53:39 PM

JeffMD: Looks like its netgear for me.. although I'll check out asus on my next purchase. Or anything else that pops up on radar. Personally I can't think of any other router brands except belkin, netgear, and linksys (rated worst to best in that order).

Ive been happy with my netgear WNDR3400v2 that I picked up early last year. Spent a little money so I can get the whole upper band for my laptop alone (family is on the lower band still with G devices) and was happy to find that unlike every single netgear and linksys I had in the past, this model netgear has not been locking up or the wifi mysteriously becoming unresponsive. It does crash about 2-3 times a month but at least when it does crash, it has no problems rebooting itself (easy to tell cause the huge glowing blue button on the side lights backup). Also I am relying on the portable usb drive I plugged into it way more then I thought I would.


That doesn't sound good... no router should need to be rebooted like that. My Netgear here at the office has been on for many months now without a single glitch.

My D-link did as you described for the last month of it's life... kept locking up, then WIFI would no longer work until I rebooted it, then even the ethernet connected machine wouldn't get through....it did it more and more often until one day that no amount of reboots would fix it.
 
2013-01-25 01:57:02 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Kimpak: WTH are you doing with your routers, installing it above a heating duct? I had a netgear I used for about 5 years, with only a few restarts here and there. Upgraded to a Linksys w/ gig ports and I've been using that flawlessly for about 2.5 years.

I have nothing but problem with consumer-grade routers and modems as well. The modem provided by Comcast (one of those little square, gray, fanless boxes) was down to strugging to maintain 1 Mbps downstream within 6 months. I've gone through 3 modems in 5 years. Had a Linksys that finally failed after about a prior 3 years of us, lost the decent Netgear modem that replaced it when the wall wort failed and fried it, the $40 Netgear PoS I replaced it with the same day couldn't go more than 2 or 3 days at most without the radio shutting off for no apparent reason and now I'm back to the original Netgear model hoping that the wall wort is better quality.

I do not understand why it's so hard to get a quality wifi router and cable modem in this country. I cannot be the only person out there who is concerned with more than just getting the lowest possible price...


Just curious.

How old is the wiring in your home/panel? Any other tech acting a little wierd in your house?

How old is the wires on the street from the power company?

Voltage/frequency changed as low as 5%(guess) can wreak havoc on electronics.

If u have a ups, check to see what tbe incoming voltage/frequency is.

I had some wierd problems until I got a ups and it corrected the frequency to 60hz.
 
2013-01-25 01:57:45 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Kimpak: WTH are you doing with your routers, installing it above a heating duct? I had a netgear I used for about 5 years, with only a few restarts here and there. Upgraded to a Linksys w/ gig ports and I've been using that flawlessly for about 2.5 years.

I have nothing but problem with consumer-grade routers and modems as well. The modem provided by Comcast (one of those little square, gray, fanless boxes) was down to strugging to maintain 1 Mbps downstream within 6 months. I've gone through 3 modems in 5 years. Had a Linksys that finally failed after about a prior 3 years of us, lost the decent Netgear modem that replaced it when the wall wort failed and fried it, the $40 Netgear PoS I replaced it with the same day couldn't go more than 2 or 3 days at most without the radio shutting off for no apparent reason and now I'm back to the original Netgear model hoping that the wall wort is better quality.

I do not understand why it's so hard to get a quality wifi router and cable modem in this country. I cannot be the only person out there who is concerned with more than just getting the lowest possible price...


well, as with any market there will be cheaply made crap to sell to the uninformed consumers.

Also, have you tried updating the firmware? Not talking about third party firmware (though that helps sometimes) but updates provided by the manufacturer. I 'fixed' a few dropped connection issues for clients simply by updating the firmware
 
2013-01-25 01:59:10 PM
I guess it's a case of "You get what you pay for".

We have a total of six Dlink DIR-655. 5 as bridges/repeaters (3 of which are outside in all weather enclosure boxes) and 1 as the main connection point to the modem. They have failed, locked up or rebooted a grand total of zero times.

They just keep working and we deployed them pretty close to 6 years ago.

Netgear has always been dogshiat from my experience with about the same reliability record as Belkin.
 
2013-01-25 02:06:42 PM
@theurge14: I haven't yet found a Linksys or Belkin router that didn't start losing its mind after a 1-2 years of heavy residential usage (200-400 GB per month WAN, 500 GB - 1 TB per month LAN). Probably failing capacitors as a result of running too hot.

I think my oldest WRT54GL is 10 years old now, I have three of them (using two as bridges).

// DD-WRT
 
2013-01-25 02:07:58 PM

MrEricSir: finnished: Asus is a pretty good brand, but I would recommend Ubiquiti. I use some of their access points in enterprise applications, and they work great.

Have you tried their AirRouter home router?

I ask because my Linksys is on the fritz and I hear good things about Ubiquiti.


I have, although the older version with the antennas. In my experience the biggest day-to-day problem is when you need to reboot a router, because it just stops forwarding traffic. This router never did it, even though I was streaming video, downloading, and even if I had tons of simultaneous connections.
 
2013-01-25 02:09:29 PM

JeffMD: Looks like its netgear for me.. although I'll check out asus on my next purchase. Or anything else that pops up on radar. Personally I can't think of any other router brands except belkin, netgear, and linksys (rated worst to best in that order).


Buffalo also makes good units.
 
2013-01-25 02:16:13 PM
i've probably owned a router by all 3 companies at one time or another, and they all broke... so im not really gonna point fingers.
 
2013-01-25 02:19:13 PM

lordargent: @theurge14: I haven't yet found a Linksys or Belkin router that didn't start losing its mind after a 1-2 years of heavy residential usage (200-400 GB per month WAN, 500 GB - 1 TB per month LAN). Probably failing capacitors as a result of running too hot.

I think my oldest WRT54GL is 10 years old now, I have three of them (using two as bridges).

// DD-WRT


I, too, have a WRT54GL serving as a bridge. For a time, it would lose its connection to the main router until rebooted; the problem was fixed by changing the built-in firmware of the main router to DD-WRT.

My friends wonder why I do not simply run Cat6 from my computer room to my living room.
 
2013-01-25 02:19:51 PM

lordargent: @theurge14: I haven't yet found a Linksys or Belkin router that didn't start losing its mind after a 1-2 years of heavy residential usage (200-400 GB per month WAN, 500 GB - 1 TB per month LAN). Probably failing capacitors as a result of running too hot.

I think my oldest WRT54GL is 10 years old now, I have three of them (using two as bridges).

// DD-WRT


Now that is not fair and you know it. You can not honestly pull out the WRT54G Series and start comparing it to what this guy has been using. Those things transcend the normal performance and longevity bell curve of your run-of-the-mill routers. They are examples of what home networking should be.

/own 3
//wish they had made an N series of these things
 
2013-01-25 02:20:51 PM

Kimpak: F1_Fan: @theurge14: I haven't yet found a Linksys or Belkin router that didn't start losing its mind after a 1-2 years of heavy residential usage (200-400 GB per month WAN, 500 GB - 1 TB per month LAN). Probably failing capacitors as a result of running too hot.

My next router will be ASUS (the model I'm looking at has a big-ass heatsink inside) and if that dies then I'm taking the leap to Sonicwall.

WTH are you doing with your routers, installing it above a heating duct? I had a netgear I used for about 5 years, with only a few restarts here and there. Upgraded to a Linksys w/ gig ports and I've been using that flawlessly for about 2.5 years.


I take it out of the box, put it on a table and connect my cables. It is in a spare room with temperature lower than the rest of the house. In fact the heat is turned off and the room warmed by the exhaust fans on my media/game server PC. I have a couple of servers running 24/7, three networked security cameras and maybe 6 other devices using the network at any given time so the router is moving a fair bit of data all the time.

The most recent Belkin i owned (a Vision N1) would just stop passing network traffic at random until I power-cycled it. Before that I had a Linksys (one of those older blue and black ones - no wi-fi) that would randomly ignore random clients. Now my Linksys WRT610N decides to drop wireless connections for a couple of seconds about once a week. That's minorly annoying when the lady asks why her iPad isn't working... it's a major pisser when I'm gaming and get disconnected after an hour of gameplay.
 
2013-01-25 02:21:01 PM
still rocking a at least 80 year old wrt54g, no trouble with it ever other than the occasional reset

wish i had some other network close enough to play with
 
2013-01-25 02:24:54 PM

TheAlmightyOS:
// DD-WRT

Now that is not fair and you know it. You can not honestly pull out the WRT54G Series and start comparing it to what this guy has been using. Those things transcend the normal performance and longevity bell curve of your run-of-the-mill routers. They are examples of what home networking should be.


A WRT54G cured my impotence. I have my Doctor on speed dial because I have many erections lasting longer than 4 hours.
 
2013-01-25 02:33:19 PM

lordargent: @theurge14: I haven't yet found a Linksys or Belkin router that didn't start losing its mind after a 1-2 years of heavy residential usage (200-400 GB per month WAN, 500 GB - 1 TB per month LAN). Probably failing capacitors as a result of running too hot.

I think my oldest WRT54GL is 10 years old now, I have three of them (using two as bridges).

// DD-WRT


I think they made a bad batch.  When the DDWRT craze first started I went out and bought one, and it would crash and reboot itself every 30 seconds.
I took it back and the replacement had the same problem.  So I just gave up on the whole thing.
 
2013-01-25 02:34:53 PM
TheAlmightyOS: Now that is not fair and you know it. You can not honestly pull out the WRT54G Series and start comparing it to what this guy has been using. Those things transcend the normal performance and longevity bell curve of your run-of-the-mill routers. They are examples of what home networking should be.

I slapped a pair of directional antennae on two of them (there are a lot more wireless networks in the condo complex now than when I moved in over a decade ago).

I had some connection problems and thought they were finally dying. But at some point, I looked at the wireless networks around and realized realized that having the main router at the back of my condo with omnidirectional antennas meant that a decent chunk of my transmission power was going right out the back wall.

Throw on the directional so that the routers are beaming mostly toward each other, and the connection issues went away.
 
2013-01-25 02:34:53 PM

Caelistis: I guess it's a case of "You get what you pay for".

We have a total of six Dlink DIR-655. 5 as bridges/repeaters (3 of which are outside in all weather enclosure boxes) and 1 as the main connection point to the modem. They have failed, locked up or rebooted a grand total of zero times.

They just keep working and we deployed them pretty close to 6 years ago.

Netgear has always been dogshiat from my experience with about the same reliability record as Belkin.


The mid priced belkins (around 60 bucks) I have not had any problems with. Cheaper than that and they quickly became shooting targets.

my next wifi point will likely be an asus
 
2013-01-25 02:35:26 PM

thrasherrr: Vegan Meat Popsicle: I do not understand why it's so hard to get a quality wifi router and cable modem in this country. I cannot be the only person out there who is concerned with more than just getting the lowest possible price...

Most of us have no issues at all with our $30 Netgear or Linksys routers and switches.

I've had my share of cable modems fail. They fail because the TWC signal is too low when it is working, and lightning likes to come down the coax when it is not working.


CSB: I was sitting at my desk during a thunderstorm, I saw a huge bolt of lightning come down not too far away, and zap, my cable modem was instantly fried.
 
2013-01-25 02:40:49 PM

serial_crusher: lordargent: @theurge14: I haven't yet found a Linksys or Belkin router that didn't start losing its mind after a 1-2 years of heavy residential usage (200-400 GB per month WAN, 500 GB - 1 TB per month LAN). Probably failing capacitors as a result of running too hot.

I think my oldest WRT54GL is 10 years old now, I have three of them (using two as bridges).

// DD-WRT

I think they made a bad batch.  When the DDWRT craze first started I went out and bought one, and it would crash and reboot itself every 30 seconds.
I took it back and the replacement had the same problem.  So I just gave up on the whole thing.


dd-wrt is a third party firmware for many different routers. WRT54G is a series of routers made by Linksys that can run dd-wrt firmware.

Now, if you are meaning to say there was a bad release of dd-wrt, there most certainly was. The main website for that firmware still recommends the buggy version. Definitely check the forums before flashing
 
2013-01-25 02:45:51 PM

TheAlmightyOS: serial_crusher: lordargent: @theurge14: I haven't yet found a Linksys or Belkin router that didn't start losing its mind after a 1-2 years of heavy residential usage (200-400 GB per month WAN, 500 GB - 1 TB per month LAN). Probably failing capacitors as a result of running too hot.

I think my oldest WRT54GL is 10 years old now, I have three of them (using two as bridges).

// DD-WRT

I think they made a bad batch.  When the DDWRT craze first started I went out and bought one, and it would crash and reboot itself every 30 seconds.
I took it back and the replacement had the same problem.  So I just gave up on the whole thing.

dd-wrt is a third party firmware for many different routers. WRT54G is a series of routers made by Linksys that can run dd-wrt firmware.

Now, if you are meaning to say there was a bad release of dd-wrt, there most certainly was. The main website for that firmware still recommends the buggy version. Definitely check the forums before flashing


No, I'm saying the WRT54GL had a bad run.  I attempted to buy a WRT54GL so that I could put dd-wrt on it.  Because the router I had at the time (some Netgear POS) didn't support it.
 
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