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(USA Today)   Smoking found to shorten your life span by at least ten years ... even more when lighting up around militant non-smokers   (usatoday.com) divider line 53
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2013-01-25 10:23:36 AM
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Come on you apes, you wanna live forever?!
 
2013-01-25 10:23:59 AM
Ten boring,bedsore filled years.
 
2013-01-25 10:28:12 AM
www.nndb.com

"Yeah, but it's the 10 WORST Years."
 
2013-01-25 10:29:32 AM
This has been common knowledge for at least 30 years.

Old News...exciting...as you were...
 
2013-01-25 10:33:27 AM
Is this where the fattie defenders from the last few fattie threads come in and bash the smokers for their poor choices?
 
2013-01-25 10:34:26 AM

Buckner: Ten boring,bedsore filled years.


Because smoker's deaths are usually much more pleasant than non-smoker's deaths.
 
2013-01-25 10:35:05 AM
Good thing I smoke weed then.
 
2013-01-25 10:35:55 AM

abhorrent1: Is this where the fattie defenders from the last few fattie threads come in and bash the smokers for their poor choices?


Nah, I'm the worst kind: ex-smoker and ex-fattie. I try to temper it, but man did I hate people like me when I smoked and was fat.
 
2013-01-25 10:40:39 AM
Smoking curbs my appetite. If not for cigarettes I'd be a big fat lardass and probably die even sooner.
 
2013-01-25 10:45:43 AM
 
2013-01-25 10:45:47 AM

abhorrent1: Is this where the fattie defenders from the last few fattie threads come in and bash the smokers for their poor choices?


Yesterday a fattie thread, today a smoker thread? Guess I have to break out the specialty brand for this one.

lifeaccordingtomish.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-25 10:47:02 AM
My ex's parents both smoke like chimneys, and sometimes I wonder how either of them is still alive. They're both cancer survivors, but more importantly I don't get how they can function after years of smoking. I quit when I was thirty, and I think I only managed to quit because it was running me down so badly.
 
2013-01-25 10:54:14 AM

roc6783: abhorrent1: Is this where the fattie defenders from the last few fattie threads come in and bash the smokers for their poor choices?

Yesterday a fattie thread, today a smoker thread? Guess I have to break out the specialty brand for this one.

[lifeaccordingtomish.files.wordpress.com image 320x240]


WTF is that? Looks like lung-butter flavored popcorn.
 
2013-01-25 10:56:39 AM
"I'm Bill Hicks and cigarettes killed me. Not from smoking, a bunch of non smokers beat the shiat out of me one day. I tried to run, but they had more energy than me. I tried to hide, but they heard me wheezing."
 
2013-01-25 11:09:28 AM

Erix: roc6783: abhorrent1: ***snip***

WTF is that? Looks like lung-butter flavored popcorn.


It's burnt popcorn for the smoker thread. Yesterday I tried to have cheesecake for the fattie thread, but Fark ate the pic, which I thought was oddly appropriate.
 
2013-01-25 11:12:43 AM
there are somedays i wish more people smoked...a lot more and for longer. and some days i wish there were more abortions. or maybe 100th trimester abortions (or thereabouts).

/working my way down from 250. at 198 now...maybe i should lighten up and have a doughnut or something.
 
2013-01-25 11:16:03 AM

Erix: Buckner: Ten boring,bedsore filled years.

Because smoker's deaths are usually much more pleasant than non-smoker's deaths.


I haven't spoken to any dead people recently, but I have it on good authority that death is not pleasant, smoker or not.
 
2013-01-25 11:19:08 AM
Working my way down from 334 lbs. Down to 245 already :)

Charles.
 
2013-01-25 11:19:10 AM
Being on fire found to shorten lifespan even more drastically.
 
2013-01-25 11:26:49 AM
Wanting to breeze unpolluted air does not make me militant. Go be stenchified somewhere else.

/doesn't have quite the same ring as "Go be fat..." Help a Farker out?
 
2013-01-25 11:32:42 AM

Bondith: Wanting to breeze unpolluted air does not make me militant. Go be stenchified somewhere else.

/doesn't have quite the same ring as "Go be fat..." Help a Farker out?


How bout "Blow me you douche"?
 
2013-01-25 11:35:24 AM

Nick Spiceyweiner: Bondith: Wanting to breeze unpolluted air does not make me militant. Go be stenchified somewhere else.

/doesn't have quite the same ring as "Go be fat..." Help a Farker out?

How bout "Blow me you douche"?


Lacks... poetry.
 
2013-01-25 11:39:05 AM

Bondith: Wanting to breeze unpolluted air does not make me militant.


Then move out of Canada. The stench of BO must be overwhelming.
 
2013-01-25 11:51:50 AM

abhorrent1: Bondith: Wanting to breeze unpolluted air does not make me militant.

Then move out of Canada. The stench of BO must be overwhelming.


Our population density isn't high enough to get sufficient concentration of funk.

/Poor effort, you can do better. See me after class.
 
2013-01-25 12:09:04 PM

Bondith: Wanting to breeze unpolluted air does not make me militant. Go be stenchified somewhere else.

/doesn't have quite the same ring as "Go be fat..." Help a Farker out?


If you're constantly walking through areas where the smokers congregate, it's your problem.

If the smokers congregate where their smoke can't be avoided, it's a company policy problem.

If neither of these are the case and you're still bothered by it, it's your problem.

So, what's the problem?
 
2013-01-25 12:11:28 PM
It's not fashionable to smoke anymmore. My college campus went so far as to remove those ash trays that are evenly placed along walking paths, because they simply became pedestrian obstructions; I guess an entire semester went by with only a few cigarettes being disposed.

With any luck we will have a new generation that will not even bother inhale this problem.

I never worried about cancer when I quit, I did it because it was a really hot summer and I conistently feel nauseous while smoking in any heat (summer months I would tend only to smoke after dusk, but the heat just didn't go away last year). I did not feel the need to pick up the habit again when winter finally came.

Plus my teeth got whiter and my jackets don't have to be washed quite as often to control the odor. That's a plus.
 
2013-01-25 12:19:40 PM

grinding_journalist: If you're constantly walking through areas where the smokers congregate, it's your problem.

If the smokers congregate where their smoke can't be avoided, it's a company policy problem.


Not sure about canada but around here they pen smokers up in a place out of the way of pedestrians. So yeah, smokers congregate where they're allowed to congregate. You need to learn to avoid those areas. It's a big world. If you can't avoid the few hundred SqFt are where smokers congregate, then it's your problem.
 
2013-01-25 12:21:52 PM

Bondith: Wanting to breeze unpolluted air does not make me militant. Go be stenchified somewhere else.

/doesn't have quite the same ring as "Go be fat..." Help a Farker out?


Stand upwind.

/ex-smoker
//gladly covers breaks for coworkers who smoke because I know they'll then cover me when I need to step outside for a scream.
 
2013-01-25 12:22:54 PM

HatMadeOfAss: Erix: Buckner: Ten boring,bedsore filled years.

Because smoker's deaths are usually much more pleasant than non-smoker's deaths.

I haven't spoken to any dead people recently, but I have it on good authority that death is not pleasant, smoker or not.


Sometimes... Dead is bettuh
 
2013-01-25 12:46:08 PM

xkillyourfacex: It's not fashionable to smoke anymmore. My college campus went so far as to remove those ash trays that are evenly placed along walking paths, because they simply became pedestrian obstructions; I guess an entire semester went by with only a few cigarettes being disposed.
***snip***


I noticed many more people smoking on campus at UW-Milwaukee than at UW-Madison. Nothing worth drawing any conclusions from, obviously, but the difference was quite noticeable.
 
2013-01-25 12:46:48 PM

grinding_journalist: Bondith: Wanting to breeze unpolluted air does not make me militant. Go be stenchified somewhere else.

/doesn't have quite the same ring as "Go be fat..." Help a Farker out?

If you're constantly walking through areas where the smokers congregate, it's your problem.

If the smokers congregate where their smoke can't be avoided, it's a company policy problem.

If neither of these are the case and you're still bothered by it, it's your problem.

So, what's the problem?


Walking past someone on the street and getting a blast of smoke in the face, or walking behind them and trying to dodge their emission plume. Oh, and that one asshat pipe-smoker who sits on the bench by the front door and befouls the entire courtyard.

If I'm hanging out with a friend who smokes, that's different, especially when they take pains to be considerate and stand downwind of me.

Basically, the smoker is the one causing the pollution, so the onus is on them to mitigate it. I don't see why I should have to go out of my way because others have chosen to poison themselves.
 
2013-01-25 12:56:19 PM

roc6783: xkillyourfacex: It's not fashionable to smoke anymmore. My college campus went so far as to remove those ash trays that are evenly placed along walking paths, because they simply became pedestrian obstructions; I guess an entire semester went by with only a few cigarettes being disposed.
***snip***

I noticed many more people smoking on campus at UW-Milwaukee than at UW-Madison. Nothing worth drawing any conclusions from, obviously, but the difference was quite noticeable.


Maybe 5 or so years ago just about everyone I knew smoked. Now, almost none do. Even my wife quite last year so I'm about the only one left. Being exiled to some far off corner outside doesn't bother me. Hell, I can't even smoke in my own house since she quit. It actually helps me smoke less. Even if I go to an outside party where I can smoke I'll wander off on my own just to be polite. I know it bothers people so I'm not a douche about it like the people who refuse to show their receipt or women who breast feed in public just to make a point.

It certainly seems to be going away though. I rarely see younger people smoking. At least in the places I go.
 
2013-01-25 01:02:51 PM
My doctor told me I would be dead in ten years if I didn't quit smoking. That was 14 years ago. Didn't quit smoking, but I quit going to that doctor.

I feel fine.

/Don't care if I die.
 
2013-01-25 01:08:28 PM

Bondith: Walking past someone on the street and getting a blast of smoke in the face, or walking behind them and trying to dodge their emission plume. Oh, and that one asshat pipe-smoker who sits on the bench by the front door and befouls the entire courtyard.

If I'm hanging out with a friend who smokes, that's different, especially when they take pains to be considerate and stand downwind of me.

Basically, the smoker is the one causing the pollution, so the onus is on them to mitigate it. I don't see why I should have to go out of my way because others have chosen to poison themselves.


It sounds like your problem is with assholes, not smokers. Before you say all smokers are assholes, be aware that you admitted you have smoker friends who are considerate.

Nobody likes assholes, and they're even worse when they smell. Facts of life.
 
2013-01-25 01:14:18 PM

abhorrent1:
Maybe 5 or so years ago just about everyone I knew smoked. Now, almost none do. Even my wife quite last year so I'm about the only one left. Being exiled to some far off corner outside doesn't bother me. Hell, I can't even smoke in my own house since she quit. It actually helps me smoke less. Even if I go to an outside party where I can smoke I'll wander off on my own just to be polite. I know it bothers people so I'm not a douche about it like the people who refuse to show their receipt or women who breast feed in public just to make a point.


I think this supports grinding_journalist's point about assholes. If I can't smell your smoke, I don't have a problem with you.

/Hooray, consensus
//How very Canadian
 
2013-01-25 01:16:18 PM
Lost weight, quit smoking, gave up soda and fast food all about 5 years ago. What do I have to show for it? Diabetes!! Woo Hoo!!!!!

Screw the healthy llifestyle...although not going back, because I can't!!
 
2013-01-25 01:37:54 PM

cartersdad:

Screw the healthy llifestyle...although not going back, because I can't!!


I'm not sure I buy the "healthy llifestyle" argument. Not sure how old everyone here is, but if you're in your 40's or 50's, think about your grandparents, great aunts, uncles etc. I grew up in a polish & Italian family. By today's standards their diets were absolutely horrific. They drank like fish and smoked like chimneys and ate things that would make a billy-goat puke. yet all of them lived past 80, some into their 90's

I can't remember his name but didn't that marathon runner who wrote a book about how great running was for your health drop dead of a heart attack while running? And isn't it something like 30% of people who get lung cancer never smoked in their life?
 
2013-01-25 01:38:21 PM
Worked with a pack a day smoker for many years, she used to laugh and say smoking never bothered her health even though she was told to quit. Then she found she had advanced lung cancer, she quit smoking and was a weepy mess up until the inevitable end. I am not militant against smokers, if you want to smoke it's your right (just don't smoke around me please) but make no mistake about it, you WILL quit one day....one way or another because there is no way you will escape the damage caused by the junk found in cigarettes.
 
2013-01-25 02:38:28 PM

Bondith: I don't see why I should have to go out of my way because others have chosen to poison themselves.


Because the alternative is whining about it on the internet.
 
2013-01-25 02:46:48 PM
I dont have anything against smokers other than the fact I dont want them smoking in a faring house! I swear my roomate thinks I cant smell that shiat reeking out under her bedroom door and it dosent matter if the window is open her room reeks of stale cigarettes. Wouldnt be as bad if she wasent a freaking slob to boot.
 
2013-01-25 02:52:16 PM

abhorrent1: And isn't it something like 30% of people who get lung cancer never smoked in their life?


90% of lung cancers are correlated directly with tobacco use. A fair chunk of the remainder is from exposure to second- and third-hand smoke.
 
2013-01-25 03:00:01 PM

Dokushin: abhorrent1: And isn't it something like 30% of people who get lung cancer never smoked in their life?

90% of lung cancers are correlated directly with tobacco use. A fair chunk of the remainder is from exposure to second- and third-hand smoke.


Citation needed. I don't believe that.
 
2013-01-25 03:06:50 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Bondith: I don't see why I should have to go out of my way because others have chosen to poison themselves.

Because the alternative is whining about it on the internet.


Best place to whine.
 
2013-01-25 03:14:16 PM

abhorrent1: Dokushin: abhorrent1: And isn't it something like 30% of people who get lung cancer never smoked in their life?

90% of lung cancers are correlated directly with tobacco use. A fair chunk of the remainder is from exposure to second- and third-hand smoke.

Citation needed. I don't believe that.


Link
 
2013-01-25 05:49:09 PM

Dokushin: abhorrent1: Dokushin: abhorrent1: And isn't it something like 30% of people who get lung cancer never smoked in their life?

90% of lung cancers are correlated directly with tobacco use. A fair chunk of the remainder is from exposure to second- and third-hand smoke.

Citation needed. I don't believe that.

Link


"Environmental tobacco smoke is to be considered as a human carcinogen. However, the extent of the lung cancer risk from passive smoking remains a fiercely discussed subject."

From your article low consumption of fruit and vegetable is also listed. At no place does it state a large chunk of the remaining 10% are from passive smoking. It states it as something that might increase a risk.
 
2013-01-25 06:08:36 PM
So here's a thing that is proven, beyond the shadow of a doubt, to cause lung damage and yet the people who do this thing are tetchy about it and think it's overblown.

De Nile is not just a river in Egypt.

/lost my favorite person to COPD.
//string the tobacco company execs up by their nuts or titties
 
2013-01-26 12:06:46 AM

mjbok: "Environmental tobacco smoke is to be considered as a human carcinogen. However, the extent of the lung cancer risk from passive smoking remains a fiercely discussed subject."

From your article low consumption of fruit and vegetable is also listed. At no place does it state a large chunk of the remaining 10% are from passive smoking. It states it as something that might increase a risk.


Yeah, second hand smoke studies are a load of crap. They're about as believable as oil industry studies on global warming.

abhorrent1: I'm not sure I buy the "healthy llifestyle" argument. Not sure how old everyone here is, but if you're in your 40's or 50's, think about your grandparents, great aunts, uncles etc. I grew up in a polish & Italian family. By today's standards their diets were absolutely horrific. They drank like fish and smoked like chimneys and ate things that would make a billy-goat puke. yet all of them lived past 80, some into their 90's


Funny how that works. I guess the people nowadays think that everyone up until 1990 died when they hit around 45, like people did in the 1400s or something.
 
2013-01-26 01:37:27 AM

Pete_T_Mann: Funny how that works. I guess the people nowadays think that everyone up until 1990 died when they hit around 45, like people did in the 1400s or something.


Actually, if you account by infant mortality by only measuring people who survive adolescence, life expectancy in the 1400s was 69 years of age. The life expectancy of a modern smoker is pegged around 64, meaning that smoking is worse for you than the sum benefits of all advances in medical technology in the past six hundred years.
 
2013-01-26 02:03:18 AM

Dokushin: Actually, if you account by infant mortality by only measuring people who survive adolescence, life expectancy in the 1400s was 69 years of age. The life expectancy of a modern smoker is pegged around 64, meaning that smoking is worse for you than the sum benefits of all advances in medical technology in the past six hundred years.


So... You're saying there's still no cure for cancer? Yeah, I've heard that.
 
2013-01-26 04:17:22 AM
I'm in the process of quitting (using ecigarettes now), but militant anti-smokers still annoy the f* out of me. Especially when they start giving me shiat about my water vapor giving them cancer.
 
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