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(Fox News)   Hillary Clinton confirmed that, while four individuals were "removed from their jobs," three of those employees who were placed on administrative leave are still on leave and being paid because federal law wouldn't let her fire them   (foxnews.com) divider line 44
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2013-01-25 11:19:58 AM
4 votes:

BunkoSquad: Oh, please, Republicans, tell us how accountable you like to hold people for screwups. I'll bake cookies while we listen.


philebersole.files.wordpress.com

What Republicans believe is NOT a scandal
2013-01-25 10:19:47 AM
4 votes:

BunkoSquad: . I'll bake cookies while we listen.


www.iancfriedman.com

How about brownies instead?
2013-01-25 12:59:43 PM
3 votes:

Brick-House: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x310]


They had all that extra time to prepare questions due to her concussion, and she STILL wiped the floor with them.

That's a farking shame.
2013-01-25 12:21:12 PM
3 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: zappaisfrank: Let's see...Republicans have blocked/stalled/killed...

Both sides are bad!!

Just like the common cold Ebola are both bad.


What Republicans fail to realize is that they have effectively abdicated their responsibility to govern and have become a trove of whiny bellyachers with one fuq of a case of butt hurt who spent each day raging about it. They fabricate stories and they inflate even the slightest controversy into this humongous dog and pony show simply to get attention for themselves. What they fail to realize is that outside the bubble world they live in, everyone else is hip to what they're doing...and they don't like it one bit. Why else to you think they're trying like mad to gerrymander their way to winning back power in the next election?

I'll let this guy finish up for me here...

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2013-01-25 12:13:02 PM
3 votes:

SithLord: zappaisfrank: Aar1012: whistleridge: Problem: we want a scapegoat, but we don't have the votes to nail someone at the top

Solution: fire someone further down the ladder instead

Problem: there are these damn laws in place to protect people further down the ladder from being fired for political reasons, laws that insist on those pesky 'facts' and 'evidence'

Solution: since those laws were passed on St. Reagan's watch, we haven't quite figured that one out yet. We'll get back to you.

Suggestion: Since the Democrats controlled the House during the Reagan administration then it's obvious they tricked President Reagan (Peace Be Upon His Name) into signing this into law and, thus, this is all their fault

This is what Republicans really believe...

/not kidding.

And 30 years from now when we look back and see that Obama never pushed for a budget, the Democrats will look back and say that the Republicans in the House stalled on that issue.

This is what democrats actually believe.

\not kidding.
\\I can play this game too.


Super...let's have at it.

Let's see...Republicans have blocked/stalled/killed...

Tax on Companies that ship jobs overseas- A bill that would have eliminated a tax break that companies get when they ship jobs overseas. Republicans blocked this, allowing companies to keep the tax break they receive when they ship jobs to other countries.

Political Ad disclosure bill- Would have required all donors to political campaigns to reveal themselves. Republicans blocked this, not once but twice.

Subpoena Power for the Committee investigating the BP Oil Spill - Give subpoena power to the independent committee responsible for investigating BP's roll in the oil spill. Republicans attempted to block this.

The Small Business Jobs Act -would give LOCAL, community banks access to billions of dollars to loan to small businesses. Republicans blocked this, then attempted to block it a second time and failed.

The DREAM Act- Gives immigrant youth who were brought here as children a path to citizenship by earning a college degree or serving the military for 2 years. Republicans blocked this.

Repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"- Would have repealed the law that forces gay and lesbian services members to lie about their sexuality and gives the military the right to discharge soldiers based on their sexuality. Republicans blocked this many times and Democrats were finally able to pass it with the support of just 2 Republicans.

Senator Franken's Anti-Rape Amendment to the Defense Appropriations Bill - Makes it so that women raped overseas while working for foreign contractors have the right to have their case heard in an American court instead of having their case mediated by the company they work for. Only Republican men voted against this, but it passed.

Benefits for Homeless Veterans- Would have expanded benefits to homeless veterans and homeless veterans with children. Republicans blocked this.

Affordable Health Care For America Act- Prevents insurance companies from discriminating against you on the basis of "pre-existing conditions". Requires that insurance companies spend 85 cents of every dollar that you pay on your actual health care. Limits health insurance companies profit margins. Republicans blocked this for months before it finally passed and have vowed to repeal it if they are elected.

Health Care for the 9/11 First Responders who got sick from being at Ground Zero- Would provide billions of dollars in health care to help the 9/11 First Responders who were at Ground Zero on 9/11 and are now sick because of it. Republicans blocked this.

The Jobs Bill- Offsets the payroll tax for 1 year for companies that hire new employees, or people receiving unemployment insurance. Also gives other tax incentives to companies hiring new employees. Republicans attempted to block this.

Wall Street Reform- Puts stricter regulations on the banks, preventing them from becoming "too big to fail". Curbs reckless spending practices that caused the banking crisis. Republicans attempted to block this.

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act- Pumped billions of dollars into state and local Governments to prevent us from sinking into a second Great Depression. Republicans opposed this but now want to take credit for the parts of it that we know are successful.

Oil Spill Liability- Raises the liability on what companies can be made to pay to clean up after an oil spill. Republicans blocked this.

Immigration Reform- Republican suggested comprehensive immigration reform until Obama supported it. Now they're rabidly opposed to it and even voted against their own legislation. Republicans blocked this.

Unemployment extension bill HR-4213- Would provide additional aid to the millions of Americans still on unemployment who are just trying to support themselves and their families. Republicans blocked this bill for 8 weeks before it finally passed. Republicans blocked this for 8 weeks before it finally passed.

Fair Pay Act of 2009- Also called the Lily Ledbetter bill. Requires that women receive equal compensation to men for doing the same work. Republicans attempted to block this.

No permanent military bases in Afghanistan.

Report identifying hybrid or electric propulsion systems and other fuel-saving technologies for incorporation into tactical motor vehicles.

Protection of child custody arrangements for parents who are members of the Armed Forces deployed in support of a contingency operation.

Improvements to Department of Defense domestic violence programs.

Department of Defense recognition of spouses of members of the Armed Forces.

Department of Defense recognition of children of members of the Armed Forces.

Enhancements to the Troops-to-Teachers Program.

Fiscal year 2011 increase in military basic pay.

Improving aural protection for members of the Armed Forces.

Comprehensive policy on neurocognitive assessment by the military health care system.

Authority to make excess nonlethal supplies available for domestic emergency assistance.

That's just the first hit on a Google search...your move, Charlie.
2013-01-25 10:39:57 AM
3 votes:
Problem: we want a scapegoat, but we don't have the votes to nail someone at the top

Solution: fire someone further down the ladder instead

Problem: there are these damn laws in place to protect people further down the ladder from being fired for political reasons, laws that insist on those pesky 'facts' and 'evidence'

Solution: since those laws were passed on St. Reagan's watch, we haven't quite figured that one out yet. We'll get back to you.
2013-01-25 10:16:20 AM
3 votes:
Oh, please, Republicans, tell us how accountable you like to hold people for screwups. I'll bake cookies while we listen.
2013-01-25 09:37:43 AM
3 votes:
i0.kym-cdn.com
2013-01-25 01:11:53 PM
2 votes:

Giltric: Kind of odd that the only person in jail over this is the scapegoat who made a movie.


Giltric is concerned about the rights of criminals who violate their probation.

Link

The fraudster-turned-filmmaker, Mark Basseley Youssef, appeared in federal court in Los Angeles and admitted he violated his probation in a 2010 bank fraud case when he used aliases against court orders and lied to his probation officer.
2013-01-25 12:58:15 PM
2 votes:
Dangerously incompetent people still holding Federal jobs:

msnbctv.files.wordpress.comwww2.pictures.zimbio.com
2013-01-25 11:28:16 AM
2 votes:
GOP: Why didn't you sack those responsible for this scandal??!?!?!?

"Under federal statute and regulations, unsatisfactory leadership is not grounds for finding a breach of duty,"

Hill-Dog: Because you farkers told me I couldn't.
2013-01-25 11:21:22 AM
2 votes:
This is totally unlike Wall Street, where the CEOs who caused the crash were severely punished.
2013-01-25 11:05:55 AM
2 votes:
If any of these "journalists" were in a room alone with her for 5 minutes they'd piss themselves.

/and so would you if she gave you "that" look
2013-01-25 02:06:35 PM
1 votes:

Mercutio74: Philip Francis Queeg: halfof33: Clinton: Was it because of a protest (NO THIS IS IS A LIE) or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans (NO THIS IS A LIE? What difference, at this point, does it make?

It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator.

And the administration failed because they were out chasing a lie about the video.

Hillary Clinton: "We're going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video." To Tyrone Woods father.

16.5 hear is getting noticeably less rational, not that the bar was set very high.

Is there an impending downgrade to 8.25?


Let me know when he gets to 4.125 and I'll take him off ignore, just for the lulz.
2013-01-25 02:00:21 PM
1 votes:

006deluxe: halfof33: Hillary Clinton: "We're going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video." To Tyrone Woods father.

I have a difficult time understanding how Hillary could have looked the victim's father in the face and lied like that.

What she should have done was given him a full briefing on the spot, ongoing ops be damned, amirite?


Shouldn't the CIA be the ones that need to appologize for editing the talking points and omitting any reference to terrorism.

The phony concern is a little thick today don't you think?
2013-01-25 01:53:30 PM
1 votes:

halfof33: I have a difficult time understanding

.

ftfy
2013-01-25 01:50:58 PM
1 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: halfof33: Clinton: Was it because of a protest (NO THIS IS IS A LIE) or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans (NO THIS IS A LIE? What difference, at this point, does it make?

It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator.

And the administration failed because they were out chasing a lie about the video.

Hillary Clinton: "We're going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video." To Tyrone Woods father.

16.5 hear is getting noticeably less rational, not that the bar was set very high.


Is there an impending downgrade to 8.25?
2013-01-25 01:47:26 PM
1 votes:

halfof33: Hillary Clinton: "We're going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video." To Tyrone Woods father.

I have a difficult time understanding how Hillary could have looked the victim's father in the face and lied like that.


pictat.com
2013-01-25 01:41:46 PM
1 votes:

incendi: RedTank: Well, I figure that Mike is trolling

It's not so much trolling as it is performance art... he's been kind of phoning it in lately, but sometimes you get a snippet of epicness.


He's a goddamn national treasure, is what he is.
2013-01-25 01:41:19 PM
1 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: halfof33: Clinton: Was it because of a protest (NO THIS IS IS A LIE) or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans (NO THIS IS A LIE? What difference, at this point, does it make?

It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator.

And the administration failed because they were out chasing a lie about the video.

Hillary Clinton: "We're going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video." To Tyrone Woods father.

16.5 hear is getting noticeably less rational, not that the bar was set very high.




I honestly think it comes from a lack of note sharing between shifts at the keyboard. Too many cooks and what not.
2013-01-25 01:40:08 PM
1 votes:

halfof33: Hey Hills, after blaming the video for the attack, you told the families that you'd pursue the people who did this, how's that working out?


pictat.com
2013-01-25 01:33:25 PM
1 votes:

Halli: halfof33: Hillary Clinton: "We're going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video." To Tyrone Woods father.

"What difference does it make?" Hillary Clinton.

What was the next thing Clinton said?


I don't know if you're expecting honesty or an attention span longer than 5 seconds, but you'll find neither from a con.
2013-01-25 01:32:26 PM
1 votes:

Halli: halfof33: Hillary Clinton: "We're going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video." To Tyrone Woods father.

"What difference does it make?" Hillary Clinton.

What was the next thing Clinton said?


He doesn't know.  FOX cut that part out.
2013-01-25 01:29:13 PM
1 votes:
halfof33: "I literally can not stop blowing goats"
2013-01-25 01:27:56 PM
1 votes:
Hillary Clinton: "We're going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video." To Tyrone Woods father.

"What difference does it make?" Hillary Clinton.
2013-01-25 01:23:09 PM
1 votes:

halfof33: Hey Hills, after blaming the video for the attack, you told the families that you'd pursue the people who did this, how's that working out?


False, and the people who attacked the consulate were arrested by Libyan forces a few weeks after the attack. But don't let facts get in the way of your little fantasy, you thread shiatting twat.
2013-01-25 01:15:09 PM
1 votes:
Ahhh yes, right wing dipshiats suddenly start caring about people dying overseas when a Democrat is in office...
2013-01-25 01:10:52 PM
1 votes:

Anti_illuminati: Mike_LowELL: This is absolutely disgusting.  United States orders an attack on its own consulate and nobody cares.  Easily the biggest scandal of my lifetime.

Mike Lowell Everyone!

[berkeley.intel-research.net image 410x307]


He's a beautiful golden bird and I love him.
2013-01-25 01:08:56 PM
1 votes:
The hearings were 100% political theater and they had their funny moments. Rand Paul's declaration about what he would do if he were President was pure comedy genius. It ranked right up there with Newt's moon base proposal for pure absurdity. And Ron Johnson's performance was brilliant; all it lacked was a prat fall and a pie fight.
2013-01-25 01:03:06 PM
1 votes:
i.qkme.me
2013-01-25 01:02:56 PM
1 votes:

Brick-House: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x310]


Are brain clots contagious? Hillary seems to have recovered from hers, but others may still need treatment.
2013-01-25 12:57:05 PM
1 votes:

Giltric: [img.photobucket.com image 800x618]


Butthurt from the ass-kicking Ron Johnson has gotten over the past few days?

Here - this should make you feel better:

i48.photobucket.com
/sexy
2013-01-25 12:43:56 PM
1 votes:

Giltric: Kind of odd that the only person in jail over this is the scapegoat who made a movie.


Because he violated his parole?
2013-01-25 12:40:41 PM
1 votes:

jehovahs witness protection: D.C. isn't a right to work state? Or a regular state? Who knew...


www.washingtonpost.com
2013-01-25 12:24:21 PM
1 votes:
media.twirlit.com

Bar, We got ne drones n d air?

floridapundit.com
Always, Hill! Got a high value target for me?

media.twirlit.com
2... Codenames: Giltric and Brick-House.
2013-01-25 12:12:26 PM
1 votes:

SithLord:

And 30 years from now when we look back and see that Obama never pushed for a budget, the Democrats will look back and say that the Republicans in the House stalled on that issue.

This is what democrats actually believe.

\not kidding.
\\I can play this game too.


Isn't it the House's job to make the budget? I mean wtf do your job, if you need micro-managed to do your job maybe you need to get a new job.
2013-01-25 12:00:03 PM
1 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: So everyone does it, vote Democrat?


NO ONE can do it ("it" = "fire people whenever the hell I want to"), because Federal Law.

Alternatively, both sides do it ("it" = "retain possible screwups because there are laws about when and how to fire them"), also because Federal law.

// so vote for a Congressman who'll make it easier to fire people?
// I see no possible way (Monica Goodling) that making it easier to hire/fire for political reasons/posts could backfire
2013-01-25 11:58:03 AM
1 votes:
That language is important, because of the rules laid out by the Omnibus Diplomatic and Antiterrorism Act of 1986.

I blame Reagan.

Giltric: Kind of odd that the only person in jail over this is the scapegoat who made a movie.

What did it matter?

/amirite


Noyernot
2013-01-25 11:48:18 AM
1 votes:

Brick-House: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x310]


Clearly, if Susan Rice had said the right things on Meet the Press, Chris Stevens would be alive today.
2013-01-25 11:40:22 AM
1 votes:
Republicans wouldn't be so maligned over this if they held their own people to the same standards they have for "the other team".

11 Embassy attacks under the watchful eye of George W. Bush...53 dead, 90 injured...

No...one...Republican...said..,squat!

NOW, suddenly it's this HUGE PROBLEM!!!!

The difference between then and now? You know as well as I do.

It's the Hypocrisy, stupid.
2013-01-25 11:39:05 AM
1 votes:

s1ugg0: Kibbler: error 303: NateGrey: BunkoSquad: Oh, please, Republicans, tell us how accountable you like to hold people for screwups. I'll bake cookies while we listen.

[philebersole.files.wordpress.com image 578x578]

What Republicans believe is NOT a scandal

Is there an actual citation for that? I'm sure there's huge waste, fraud, and outright theft going on, but that seems like hyperbole...

I'd like to see a citation too, but considering what I know about the whole Iraq Murder Party, I would be far more inclined to believe this is accurate, than a graph that says they can't account for only 4% of it.

Iraq was a Steal-It-All-Now enterprise, and I'm sure it remains unchanged to this day. Grab all you can, get while the getting is good, no questions asked, ain't nobody ever gonna know.

The money was found.

Because god forbid anyone actually uses google for something besides porn

/Liberal
//I just hate talking points


With all due respect, one man's definition of a talking point might be a "report" issued by a bureaucrat ten years after the fact that, without providing concrete evidence, says, "Oh it turns out the money went where it was supposed to go, no harm no foul."

FTFA:

"But apparently, the money was properly transferred to accounts held at the Central Bank of Iraq, the new SIGIR report found."

Glad that's all wrapped up.

And:

"While the bulk of the money was transferred to the Central Bank of Iraq, $217 million remained in a vault in a former presidential palace and was held by the U.S. Defense Department and most was doled out for a variety of projects and payrolls, the report says," Keyes reported. A February 2008 SIGIR audit found that $24.45 million of the $217 million stored at the palace vault remained, and was later turned over to Iraq.

So, even according to this ten-year-after report, $193 million are still missing.
2013-01-25 11:37:37 AM
1 votes:
img839.imageshack.us
2013-01-25 11:30:53 AM
1 votes:
what about the republican politicians who voted to cut funding for security? are they on administrative leave?
2013-01-25 09:53:11 AM
1 votes:
Finally, something you could almost be legitimately concerned about.
 
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