NewportBarGuy
Frank N Stein: constitutional implications.

Blacks were 3/5ths a person. Women had no vote.

Preach to me again about the import of that f*cking piece of paper.

Can you point to me which amendment in the Bill of Rights said "women not being allowed to vote shall not be infringed," and "the upgrading of darkies from 3/5ths a person to one whole shall not be undertook?"

NewportBarGuy: FEAR them? What the f*ck is the matter with you? They are combat rifles.

If AR-15s are combat rifles, how come the military uses M-16s and polices use AR-15s?

NewportBarGuy: They are designed to kill people.

Most guns are. I mean, I can't name a gun designed to shoot hugs and kisses at hundreds of feet per second. Can you?

NewportBarGuy: If you need a rifle with a 30 round clip to go hunting, there are two reasons why:

1) You are a sh*t shot.

Well, most people that go hunting don't use an AR-15 with 30 round clip magazine, as it's against the law (varies state by state). Although there are high volume hunts, such as varmint hunting, in which it's legal and useful to use a 30 round clip magazine

NewportBarGuy: 2) You harbor fantasies of a world collapse, invest in gold, listen to Glenn Beck, and want to overthrow they tyrannical government,

Or it's fun to shoot, a good home defense weapon, or any other legal uses

NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: constitutional implications.

Blacks were 3/5ths a person. Women had no vote.

Preach to me again about the import of that f*cking piece of paper.

"There was slavery 150 years ago, therefore the federal government should be able to institute an official religion"

Cool argument, bro.

NewportBarGuy: Actually, I can. So can you. Every other rifle not designed with express intent for use in an armed force.

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NewportBarGuy: Because that is entirely accurate. The AR-15 is designed to put down human beings in short fashion. That is exactly what it was designed for.

Your point?

You think a cop's sidearm is used to look cool or something?

NewportBarGuy: That's cute. Let's see what it does to the skull of an 8-year-old.

It's probably put a whole through the skull, just like any other round.

Your point?

But Fark told me that AR-15s were designed for the sole purpose of killing as many people as possible in the quickest amount of time.

The thing about this is that no one got killed by these guys. Despite the thousand rounds and body armor and high-powered rifles no one got killed (except the two gunmen themselves).

So explain to me why this one-time incident is used as proof we need military-grade peace officers at all times?

MikeSass: NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: But Fark told me that AR-15s were designed for the sole purpose of killing as many people as possible in the quickest amount of time.

Because that is entirely accurate. The AR-15 is designed to put down human beings in short fashion. That is exactly what it was designed for.

Your point?

If that is what the AR-15 is designed for, it fails in comparison to the alternatives.
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I see your measly truck bomb and raise you one Manhattan Project.



/humans are, indeed, scumbags

NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: Why not just sell your fake rifle now? You can get a lot of money from the panic buyers.

You're a peach. I'm sorry you can't figure sh*t out. I'm sorry I'm not sorry.

Motorboat.

Because it's still legal to own the rifle I'm most proficient with. If tomorrow it was made illegal and I had to turn it in, I would.

You don't know what single shot is and you call a magazine a clip. You ain't proficient in shiat.

We're already well on our way to 3rd world country status.  Why not arm the police like we are and just cut to the chase?

NewportBarGuy: A rifle that fires 5.56mm, even in single-shot iterations, with a 30-round clip? No f*cking need in the world that a beat cop needs that sh*t.

I'd like to prohibit them from even being allowed to buy surplus military equipment.

This is ridiculous.

"If the police department and the police officers think it's necessary I would defer to their judgment," Kim Teneick said.

Go f*ck yourself, Kim.

Blame these guys:

GanjSmokr: NewportBarGuy: Keep playing semantics. It's all you have.

Semantics is all anyone has if we want to understand what each other is talking about. We have to use the correct terms for things. We can't just decide that we want to start using an INCORRECT term for something and assume everyone will know what we're talking about.

Seriously, the people that biatch and whine and yell out "SEMANTICS IS ALL YOU HAVE!!" when they are corrected on terminology when trying to discuss this subject are being idiots. If you want to talk seriously about this, and try to find solutions, WE ALL HAVE TO BE SPEAKING THE SAME FARKING LANGUAGE.

After all of these threads is there really anyone left here that doesn't know there is an actual difference between a "clip" and a "magazine"? Is there anyone left that doesn't understand that "assault weapon" and "assault rifle" are not the same thing? Yet people still insist on using incorrect words and get their panties in a bunch when corrected.

fark it. The ones who are being willfully ignorant can keep on keeping on. Call a magazine a diddly-dooder and call an assault rifle a blangity-blang. What's it matter? It's just semantics after all.

Perhaps we should refer to assault weapons ban advocates as "child molesters". Should they protest, we will be able to accuse them of arguing "semantics".

dittybopper: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Frank N Stein: NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: constitutional implications.

Blacks were 3/5ths a person. Women had no vote.

Preach to me again about the import of that f*cking piece of paper.

"There was slavery 150 years ago, therefore the federal government should be able to institute an official religion"

Cool argument, bro.

Love it when people pick and choose parts of the Constitution.

It's sooooooooo creative.

There is a process to fix the Constitution if it is indeed found to be wanting. The founding fathers weren't fools, they knew that times change and the Constitution would have to be "adjusted" to those times. We've done it to fix the problem of slavery, for example.

So, if the people owning arms is such a bad thing, pass an amendment repealing the Second Amendment.

Passage of a Constitutional Amendment is a difficult procedure, requiring attaining of substantially more support than is typically available. Merely lying about the implications of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, or simply advocating ignoring sections of the Constitution that are arbitrarily declared to be "obsolete" or "outdated" enables advocates of unreasonable restrictions upon firearm ownership to more effectively attain support for their position.

violentsalvation: NewportBarGuy: violentsalvation: ut frankly, I'm sick of the ignorance that we see in these debates.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.

I've always wondered why so few people get the idea of ginormous "penis by proxy" that lovers of big government get off on. If some guy loves his Hummer and therefore is compensating for a small penis, then someone who loves Big Government is compensating for an even small penis.

NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: But Fark told me that AR-15s were designed for the sole purpose of killing as many people as possible in the quickest amount of time.

Because that is entirely accurate. The AR-15 is designed to put down human beings in short fashion. That is exactly what it was designed for.

Your point?

Are we next going to ban swords, since they actually have no purpose other than killing other human beings as well?

Actually the AR-15 and similar are extremely good at taking out smaller mammals and provide many people with an excellent quality, general purpose hunting rifle that doesn't need to be reloaded every couple of minutes. Do people NEED one? No. But do people NEED a vehicle that can go over 65-70 mph? No. Do you NEED to indulge in a package of Oreos? No. Do you NEED a latte in the morning? No. Yet, vehicles, fatty fast food, and caffeine contribute directly or indirectly to more health problems and deaths in the US than "assault" rifles and we're not banning those things either.

Stop the whole "it looks mean!" bullshiat. You really want to stop mass killings, go to the source, not a tool.

henryhill: Gun 'tards are out early today.

No choice. Control freaks never sleep.

randomjsa: AR-15? Wimps.

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Anna sees what you did there.


There is only one counter to your penis replacement:

Erectdacocky. The ultimate deterrent.



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Give 'em a 45/70 Govt and tell 'em "Shut the fark up!"
Really no reason to carry a pussified AR-15 around. Carry a damn man's rifle, wussies.

Allow me to piss off both sides of this argument by pointing out that these "assault weapons" are jive-ass toys.
They take a low-powered, innaccurate semi-auto carbine and festoon it up with "military" features that are useless to anyone but a soldier in the field, and sell it for a fat markup.
They have two real functions - to con the dollars out of stupid, macho gun-fappers pockets, and to scare the shiat out of ignorant liberals who don't know anything about guns.
That's all they are especially good for - that and enriching those who make and sell them.

Frankly, I'd be embarrassed to be seen with one of the things - in my mind, they all look like this:

muck4doo: Kids. Don't listen to these men. Fire a Makarov. Fire a Walther. One fits your hand and fires beautifully with 9x18 ammunition. The other bites the web of your hand, fires like shiat, and costs hundreds dollars more. It also fires .380 ammunition. Yeah, the choice is clear. If you want to try to pretend to be James Bond buy a crappy Walther.

NewportBarGuy: Blacks were 3/5ths a person.

As a matter of parliamentary procedure, I feel it necessary to point out that blacks were actually 0/5 of a person. They got no vote, nor did their owners get extra votes.

The 3/5 was for the purpose of proportioning representatives in the HoR and determining tax burdens.

violentsalvation: Doesn't mean I'm going to question his military record like an asshole.

Sorry, I've lived through FLYNAVY and Wife-Like Typing guy. If he was actually in the military, I'll apologize to him. But there are plenty of people on FARK who claim to be in/have been in the military who are blatent liars about it.

I do tend to question anyone who calls a magazine a clip and then claims to have been in the military.

BronyMedic: Fail in Human Form: It's a fixed wood, but it's IMI new production and yeah the ammo prices suck.

Ewwww. Surplus is the way to go. Sure, it costs a little more, and it's a little more scratched, but it makes a hell of a style statement.

/M1 Garand would make a nice deer rifle if you don't mind 30-06. All the cool kids are using 7mm, it seems.

I just joined the CMP program and a Garand in 30-06 is on my "will buy" list :-)

/I could have bought one on just on my C&R but CMP has some good deals from time to time so I figured why not

I suspect that people who own AR-15s don't want the police to have them as well; however, I have no idea why this would be.

FTA: The officers would be allowed to carry these weapons in their police vehicles once properly trained, and would be only used to neutralize a potential threat, according to Daugherty.

So what the hell have they been using their sidearm for all these years?!

GUTSU: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: violentsalvation: NewportBarGuy: violentsalvation: ut frankly, I'm sick of the ignorance that we see in these debates.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.

Have you considered penis enlargement surgery? That would have a 0% chance of butchering 26 kindergarteners.

It must be nice dancing on the graves on children. Tell me, are you also wearing cleats?

Whatever. Seattle PD sometimes carry AR-15s in their cars. Or even on their cars.

NewportBarGuy: Fark It: You tell us, soldier, you're the one who swore an oath to protect and defend it with your life.

Unless you're lying about that too.

What the f*ck? I now work for the Veterans Administration making sure vets get their medications. Disabled vets like myself. Making sure we take care of those we sent into battle, their widow, orphans...

Go f*ck yourself.

What was your MOS? Where did you do basic and what year did you do it? What was your first duty station?

What is MEPS?

Are you a naval aviator?

gibbon1: Fark It: LOL. When a sniveling citizen wants one they're "military-style assault weapons." When cops want them they're "patrol rifles." Bunch of Orwellian horseshiat.

Personally I want to take assault riffles and other military style hardware away from both the nutters and the cops.

Sadly sometimes they're one and the same.

NewportBarGuy: Fark It: You tell us, soldier, you're the one who swore an oath to protect and defend it with your life.

Unless you're lying about that too.

What the f*ck? I now work for the Veterans Administration making sure vets get their medications. Disabled vets like myself. Making sure we take care of those we sent into battle, their widow, orphans...

Go f*ck yourself.

You need someone to make sure YOU get your meds, You seem off your rocker dude.

NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: "There was slavery 150 years ago, therefore the federal government should be able to institute an official religion"

Because I said that... right? Nope. Jackass.

No, but that argument is just as valid as yours.

NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: NewportBarGuy: I would like to keep my AR-15

Okay.

But I'm perfectly fine with giving it up if it meant people like you were not legally allowed to own the same.

Why not just sell your fake rifle now? You can get a lot of money from the panic buyers.

NewportBarGuy: fusillade762: Blame these guys:

Why?

Something that happened 20 years ago in a city with a SWAT unit has what relevance to this debate? None. Your answer is: NONE.

Reload and take aim.

The ineffectiveness of the pistol rounds and shotgun pellets in penetrating the robbers' body armor led to a trend in the United States toward arming selected police patrol officers with semi-automatic 5.56 mm AR-15 type rifles.[16] Seven months after the incident, the Department of Defense gave 600 surplus M16s to the LAPD, which were issued to each patrol sergeant;[32] other cities, such as Miami, also moved to supply patrol officers, not just SWAT teams, with heavier firepower.[33]


Better get in there and edit Wikipedia, in that case.

NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: You think a cop's sidearm is used to look cool or something?

Clever. No. I know all of the semantics of the "debate". Frankly, I'm sick of it. If they outlaw it, I'll gladly give up my AR-15. There really is no need for me to own one.

You don't own an AR-15.

And a picture of you posing with your friend's airsoft gun isn't going to change that.

Bucky Katt: Frank N Stein: Frank N Stein: whole

derp

did you just derp yourself?

You bet your ass I did.

King Something: NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: NewportBarGuy: A rifle that fires 5.56mm, even in single-shot iterations, with a 30-round clip?

5.56 sounds like an overkill. They should carry something in .223

That's cute. Let's see what it does to the skull of an 8-year-old.

Do you want to be the one to tell him that 5.56 and .223 are essentially the same thing, or should I do it?

NewportBarGuy: A rifle that fires 5.56mm, even in single-shot iterations, with a 30-round clip?

5.56 sounds like an overkill. They should carry something in .223