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2013-01-25 01:19:29 PM
jso2897: They're still carbines. They're cheap imitations of guns that are for war

The dudes who lugged ammo and spotted for my grandfather would disagree.

/He was one of Edison's Raiders. Has always said that his "support" killed more Japanese than he did. According to him, he'd put down cover fire whilst his support made killing shots.
//BTW, support in this term refers to two dudes with carbines and a sh&t ton of ammo for the BAR, as well as ammo for their carbines.
///G-Dad has a Narisaka (sp?) rifle I will inherent when he leaves our pastures.
///Not from a Griffin novel, though those can be pretty good.
 
2013-01-25 01:34:02 PM
Oh, in case it wasn't clearly implied, my grandad was the dude with the BAR.

Would love to get him in on this, but he's too busy not giving a f@ck what people online have to say about his service. He's also not a fan of technology (at least, technology that isn't mechanical in nature, and doesn't result in the deaths of asians from Nippon).

He would also probably ban-hammer himself by calling you racial epithets.

F&cking love that old dude.

/Not because he's racist. Gonna excuse that based on the years he spent fighting the Japanese. Was still fighting the war as late as 1999, when he welcomed a group of Japanese tourists in HI to martial combat.
//They didn't accept.
 
2013-01-25 01:42:19 PM

NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: Don't get your Jamies Wrangled. I understand you fear black rifles. It's because their black, isn't it?


FEAR them? What the f*ck is the matter with you? They are combat rifles. They are designed to kill people. That is a simple fact. Just because you choose to ignore their design purpose, does not make you any less stupid for asserting their noble qualities.

If you need a rifle with a 30 round clip to go hunting, there are two reasons why:

1) You are a sh*t shot.
2) You harbor fantasies of a world collapse, invest in gold, listen to Glenn Beck, and want to overthrow they tyrannical government,

In short, idiotic.


Okay, let's say I'm a "sh*t shot". The only way for me to get better is through practice. Is there something wrong with that?

As for harboring fantasies about world collapse I think it's unlikely but if it happens I'm going to want to defend myself from Glenn Beck fans.

You keep your ancestors in a pasture?

Weird.
 
2013-01-25 01:47:48 PM

salsashark1: The AR-15 appears nowhere in the constitution.

FACT!


Which means that the government has no authority to ban it.
 
2013-01-25 01:50:34 PM

dr_blasto: jso2897: in my mind, they all look like this:

You have a strange mind.


You should see how *I* think...
www.rockpapershotgun.com
 
2013-01-25 01:54:12 PM

Rich Cream: NewportBarGuy: Fark It: You tell us, soldier, you're the one who swore an oath to protect and defend it with your life.

Unless you're lying about that too.

What the f*ck? I now work for the Veterans Administration making sure vets get their medications. Disabled vets like myself. Making sure we take care of those we sent into battle, their widow, orphans...

Go f*ck yourself.


Awesome. That's one way to hide behind wounded vets and orphans.

/did one have anything to do with the other?


...and why would you send widows and orphans into battle, you sick fark?
 
2013-01-25 02:02:16 PM

m053486: ///G-Dad has a Narisaka (sp?) rifle I will inherent when he leaves our pastures.


Arisaka.
 
2013-01-25 02:05:27 PM

MythDragon: Rich Cream: NewportBarGuy: Fark It: You tell us, soldier, you're the one who swore an oath to protect and defend it with your life.

Unless you're lying about that too.

What the f*ck? I now work for the Veterans Administration making sure vets get their medications. Disabled vets like myself. Making sure we take care of those we sent into battle, their widow, orphans...

Go f*ck yourself.


Awesome. That's one way to hide behind wounded vets and orphans.

/did one have anything to do with the other?

...and why would you send widows and orphans into battle, you sick fark?



I don't know. Ask him.
 
2013-01-25 02:11:06 PM

MythDragon: Rich Cream: NewportBarGuy: Fark It: You tell us, soldier, you're the one who swore an oath to protect and defend it with your life.

Unless you're lying about that too.

What the f*ck? I now work for the Veterans Administration making sure vets get their medications. Disabled vets like myself. Making sure we take care of those we sent into battle, their widow, orphans...

Go f*ck yourself.


Awesome. That's one way to hide behind wounded vets and orphans.

/did one have anything to do with the other?

...and why would you send widows and orphans into battle, you sick fark?


What else are they good for?
 
2013-01-25 02:31:51 PM

m053486: Oh, in case it wasn't clearly implied, my grandad was the dude with the BAR.

Would love to get him in on this, but he's too busy not giving a f@ck what people online have to say about his service. He's also not a fan of technology (at least, technology that isn't mechanical in nature, and doesn't result in the deaths of asians from Nippon).

He would also probably ban-hammer himself by calling you racial epithets.

F&cking love that old dude.

/Not because he's racist. Gonna excuse that based on the years he spent fighting the Japanese. Was still fighting the war as late as 1999, when he welcomed a group of Japanese tourists in HI to martial combat.
//They didn't accept.


Sounds like my grandfather. He was in the navy in WW2. His ship was at Gaudalcanal, and later at Japan right when they announced the war was over. He was racist for years till an aunt of mine married a Japanese man, who has been one of the greatest additions to our family. His stories are always interesting. He later became a missionary, so I was shocked when one day he was telling me about how when they stopped at a port their philosophy was "find em, feel em, fark em, forget em". He's 89 now, and I keep telling my sons they should talk to him more. Once he's gone those stories are gone.
 
2013-01-25 02:34:19 PM

Rich Cream: [upload.wikimedia.org image 450x164]

The thing about this is that no one got killed by these guys. Despite the thousand rounds and body armor and high-powered rifles no one got killed (except the two gunmen themselves).

So explain to me why this one-time incident is used as proof we need military-grade peace officers at all times?


When the zombies attack.
 
2013-01-25 02:51:31 PM

Deep Contact: Rich Cream: [upload.wikimedia.org image 450x164]

The thing about this is that no one got killed by these guys. Despite the thousand rounds and body armor and high-powered rifles no one got killed (except the two gunmen themselves).

So explain to me why this one-time incident is used as proof we need military-grade peace officers at all times?

When the zombies attack.


Great! Then the zombies will have military-grade, black, high-powered ASSAULT weapons of death and torture.

Thanks a lot O'bama.
 
2013-01-25 02:52:39 PM

m053486: Aaaaand, just read your profile, Brony.

May you continue on your path of awesome, and continue to save lives. Your area is lucky to have you. Tip o' the cap, and all that.

/No snark at all, actually cool to see a Good Person on Fark.


Heh. I hope we never have to meet, actually. That would mean either you're a kid and your parents are highly irresponsible for letting you on FARK, or your own kid is in dire need of a children's hospital.

/good morning. where's my coffee.
 
2013-01-25 03:06:25 PM
Anyone who uses the phrase "thirty round clip" has no business talking about rifles.
 
2013-01-25 03:35:56 PM
I need an AR-15 in case I'm attacked by a mob that's been enraged by an offensive YouTube video.

Obama informs me that sort of thing can and does happen.
 
2013-01-25 03:40:01 PM

muck4doo: He's 89 now, and I keep telling my sons they should talk to him more. Once he's gone those stories are gone.


I wish i had gotten a chance to discuss "the war" with my grandfather. I asked him when I was a child, and he told me he drove tow trucks during the war. It wasn't until he was long dead that my father told me it was a lie told to a child, and that he had seen and done horrifying things, and that my father still remembers granddad waking up screaming in the middle of the night all the time from the troubled memories.

/Of course, in hindsight, it doesnt make much sense that he would be driving a tow truck while island hopping....
 
2013-01-25 04:04:57 PM

Alonjar: muck4doo: He's 89 now, and I keep telling my sons they should talk to him more. Once he's gone those stories are gone.

I wish i had gotten a chance to discuss "the war" with my grandfather. I asked him when I was a child, and he told me he drove tow trucks during the war. It wasn't until he was long dead that my father told me it was a lie told to a child, and that he had seen and done horrifying things, and that my father still remembers granddad waking up screaming in the middle of the night all the time from the troubled memories.

/Of course, in hindsight, it doesnt make much sense that he would be driving a tow truck while island hopping....


My other grandfather died before i could ever really talk to him. He fought in Europe. After he died I found out from others he was in a unit that found a death camp. Which one, I don't know. He used to get pissed at holocaust deniers from what I was told, because he saw one(death camp). He passed away in the late 80's, lived in TX, and I only met him twice. I was raised in CA, and we didn't get out to meet him much. There also were issues between him and my grandmother that didn't help. I also wish i could have talked to him more. That's what I don't want my sons to regret.
 
2013-01-25 04:10:49 PM

NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: You don't know what single shot is and you call a magazine a clip. You ain't proficient in shiat.

Semantics, as I've stated.

Single-round down range per trigger pull... Single-shot.

Magazine... what you subscribe to.


sleekupload.com

A Rifle "Clip" is a device that holds ammunition together during reloading, and is used to facilitate reloading a Rifle's (or in some cases, an old pistol's) internal ammunition storage. A Rifle (or pistol) "Magazine" is a device that is usually spring loaded and can be detached from the Rifle (or pistol), containing a variable number of single rounds of ammunition compressed to facilitate feeding into the chamber of an auto-loading firearm.

/Try to keep your future arguments from displaying your ignorance.
//You'll last longer :)
 
2013-01-25 04:14:56 PM

washington-babylon: NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: You don't know what single shot is and you call a magazine a clip. You ain't proficient in shiat.

Semantics, as I've stated.

Single-round down range per trigger pull... Single-shot.

Magazine... what you subscribe to.

[sleekupload.com image 600x480]

A Rifle "Clip" is a device that holds ammunition together during reloading, and is used to facilitate reloading a Rifle's (or in some cases, an old pistol's) internal ammunition storage. A Rifle (or pistol) "Magazine" is a device that is usually spring loaded and can be detached from the Rifle (or pistol), containing a variable number of single rounds of ammunition compressed to facilitate feeding into the chamber of an auto-loading firearm.

/Try to keep your future arguments from displaying your ignorance.
//You'll last longer :)


You think that will keep that marine core soldier from posting more idiocy?
 
2013-01-25 04:15:56 PM
Since the subject changed to war vets let me put this out there--talk to the vet geezers and learn their stories.

My wife's relative they call "Uncle Floyd" finally opened up and told us everything you might imagine about killing Japs, etc., but so many of his life's incidents were humorous tales of one thing leading to another.

The very short vesion is basically he was poor during the depression, hunted squirrels and raccoons for bartering in town, went into a partnership with a guy who invented the trap-shooting jacket, converted a dummy bomb into an auxiliary fuel tank for his car so he could steal jet fuel to go on weekend leaves (gas was rationed), went off to war and was a tail-gunner & bombardier on a Black Cat PB-Y Catalina flying boat, impersonated a Colonel to get into a party, accidentally got his picture on the cover of Stars & Stripes, was wanted by the MPs to make sure this unidentified Colonel wasn't a spy, had to sneak home in a body bag to escape detention, resumed his job selling shooting jackets, partied with astronauts and governors in Florida, and told me how much he thought Eddie Bauer was an asshole.

The actual Eddie Bauer. Uncle Floyd butted heads with the guy back in the day.

It's amazing the lives some of these old guys had.
 
2013-01-25 04:16:18 PM

washington-babylon:
/Try to keep your future arguments from displaying your ignorance.
//You'll last longer :)


Almost of the ignorance on this subject here is willful.

But it's just semantics, right? We should just let the child molesters use whatever terms they want.
 
2013-01-25 04:33:31 PM

fickenchucker: Since the subject changed to war vets let me put this out there--talk to the vet geezers and learn their stories.

My wife's relative they call "Uncle Floyd" finally opened up and told us everything you might imagine about killing Japs, etc., but so many of his life's incidents were humorous tales of one thing leading to another.

The very short vesion is basically he was poor during the depression, hunted squirrels and raccoons for bartering in town, went into a partnership with a guy who invented the trap-shooting jacket, converted a dummy bomb into an auxiliary fuel tank for his car so he could steal jet fuel to go on weekend leaves (gas was rationed), went off to war and was a tail-gunner & bombardier on a Black Cat PB-Y Catalina flying boat, impersonated a Colonel to get into a party, accidentally got his picture on the cover of Stars & Stripes, was wanted by the MPs to make sure this unidentified Colonel wasn't a spy, had to sneak home in a body bag to escape detention, resumed his job selling shooting jackets, partied with astronauts and governors in Florida, and told me how much he thought Eddie Bauer was an asshole.

The actual Eddie Bauer. Uncle Floyd butted heads with the guy back in the day.

It's amazing the lives some of these old guys had.


Agreed. :)
 
2013-01-25 05:10:53 PM

Phinn: I need an AR-15 in case I'm attacked by a mob that's been enraged by an offensive YouTube video.

Obama informs me that sort of thing can and does happen.


That's what happens when you pull aggro from the tank, dumbass.
 
2013-01-25 05:31:15 PM
Sorry, everyone. That's why I usually don't drink Bourbon. Birthday celebration got a bit out of hand.

No excuse. I apologize for being an asshole.
 
2013-01-25 06:30:41 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Frank N Stein: borg: Oh, my God! self-loading rifles are sooooo scary.

Sounds too close to self-aware rifles. Better not chance it.

Self aware weapons? That would be .... interesting.
[www.whkeith.com image 432x329]

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-25 08:03:24 PM

ChuDogg: muck4doo: Fail in Human Form: muck4doo: Had a Glock 22(.40 S&W) for years, n ...

My only gripe about a Glock, and keep in mind I carry my Glock 36 daily, is that you have to get used to the trigger. My accuracy with it was pretty low compared to my other pistols until I got used to it through several range trips.

It comes with practice. You're going to have that long first pull, but if you practice with it, you will learn Glock. After that first heavy long pull, you only have to move your finger forward a little. You will feel a click. It's a hair trigger at that point. If you practice, you will be amazed at the double and triple taps you can do. Triple taps are a waste, doubles work nice. With practice you learn how to place your finger to just about make that second shot almost automatically happen. I say triple taps are a waste because my time with Glock was with model 22(.40 S&W). By the time your third tap came on doing that method the barrel would be pointing about 45 degrees up because of recoil. It's a wasted shot. That might not be the case with the Glock 17, but it was the case I found with the 22. Next time you go to the range, slow fire that first shot. Then slowly let you finger move forward. You will be surprised at how little it needs to go to give you a light and crisp trigger pull on the follow up. Training. Training. Training.

LEOs tyoically have the NYC trigger. Glock actually called it that because they had to make it specifically for them with a higher trigger weight pull. Obstensibly to reduce negligent discharge, it has the side effect of reducing accuracy. Which explains why NYC cops always take out a few innocent bystanders anytime they use their weapon.

If you are buying a civilian model, make sure to research its trigger weight pull and don't buy the LEO model.


I've instructed police recruits in firearms at our state academy for roughly 10 years.  In those 10 years, during which we inspect and test fire every single weapon issued to every single recruit, I've run across two that had the NYC trigger pull.  That trigger pull was designed, initially, specifically for the NYPD.  Very, very few other agencies use it.
 
2013-01-26 01:49:40 AM

BronyMedic: violentsalvation: I have a Bulgarian Makarov, neat little pistol.

COMMUNIST! I bet you voted for Obummer too! :P

In all seriousness, I still love you. Your bit of abuse there was a nice distraction from watching videos of trauma team codes for the past two hours on kids.


Sorry, I just thought DRIVEAMBULANCE was silly enough to post. :D I remember convincing savant and fly navy, but I believe in newportbarguy's work history. I've seen enough of his posts to be convinced. I think he was sorta trolling the individual he was arguing with, since he's tired of the semantics of the debate.
 
2013-01-26 05:34:47 AM

BronyMedic: NewportBarGuy: Fark It: You tell us, soldier, you're the one who swore an oath to protect and defend it with your life.

Unless you're lying about that too.

What the f*ck? I now work for the Veterans Administration making sure vets get their medications. Disabled vets like myself. Making sure we take care of those we sent into battle, their widow, orphans...

Go f*ck yourself.

What was your MOS? Where did you do basic and what year did you do it? What was your first duty station?

What is MEPS?

Are you a naval aviator?

[i23.photobucket.com image 500x400]


Please. He's one of the most prolific posters on Fark and has been for as long as I can remember. If he were FlyNavy ver. 2.0, he'd have been discovered long ago.

Not everyone who leaves military service can be bothered to use the "proper" names for shiat that doesn't matter anymore.

And people sometimes have a bad day. No need to pull the "I'm more hardcore than you" crap.
 
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