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2013-01-25 01:37:46 AM

Frank N Stein: Why not just sell your fake rifle now? You can get a lot of money from the panic buyers.


You're a peach. I'm sorry you can't figure sh*t out. I'm sorry I'm not sorry.

Motorboat.

Because it's still legal to own the rifle I'm most proficient with. If tomorrow it was made illegal and I had to turn it in, I would.
 
2013-01-25 01:42:11 AM

NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: Why not just sell your fake rifle now? You can get a lot of money from the panic buyers.

You're a peach. I'm sorry you can't figure sh*t out. I'm sorry I'm not sorry.

Motorboat.

Because it's still legal to own the rifle I'm most proficient with. If tomorrow it was made illegal and I had to turn it in, I would.


You don't know what single shot is and you call a magazine a clip. You ain't proficient in shiat.
 
2013-01-25 01:44:38 AM

NewportBarGuy: violentsalvation: ut frankly, I'm sick of the ignorance that we see in these debates.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,


I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.
 
2013-01-25 01:45:24 AM

Frank N Stein: You don't know what single shot is and you call a magazine a clip. You ain't proficient in shiat.


Semantics, as I've stated.

Single-round down range per trigger pull... Single-shot.

Magazine... what you subscribe to.
 
2013-01-25 01:51:47 AM
Oh, my God! self-loading rifles are sooooo scary.
 
2013-01-25 01:53:33 AM

NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: You don't know what single shot is and you call a magazine a clip. You ain't proficient in shiat.

Semantics, as I've stated.

Single-round down range per trigger pull... Single-shot.

Magazine... what you subscribe to.


To bring the civility up a bit, I'll say this:

What you brush off as merely "semantics", I believe to be important details when discussing a law of any sorts, especially ones with constitutional implications. Now this being Fark, I understand that our little comments have no real weight on the issue. However, when I hear inaccurate representation of mechanics and terminology, I (and many others) tend to give that person less credit on the subject.

You're profile I see says that you were a cavalry scout. This being the internet and all, I take that with a grain of salt. Nothing against you personally, and I'm not call you a liar, but that's just how it goes with ANY unverified claim on the internet (think RE:RE:RE:RE OBAMA BORN ON THE MOON). Now, assuming you claim is true, you know the terminology and mechanics. In that case, you're just intentionally being obtuse.
 
2013-01-25 01:55:19 AM

borg: Oh, my God! self-loading rifles are sooooo scary.


Sounds too close to self-aware rifles. Better not chance it.
 
2013-01-25 01:58:09 AM

Frank N Stein: constitutional implications.


Blacks were 3/5ths a person. Women had no vote.

Preach to me again about the import of that f*cking piece of paper.
 
2013-01-25 02:03:07 AM

NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: constitutional implications.

Blacks were 3/5ths a person. Women had no vote.

Preach to me again about the import of that f*cking piece of paper.


"There was slavery 150 years ago, therefore the federal government should be able to institute an official religion"

Cool argument, bro.
 
2013-01-25 02:04:03 AM

Frank N Stein: I take that with a grain of salt.


Take it however you like it. I honestly don't care. Long past the point of caring what a jackass like you thinks. NO! You will not maintain the status quo. Your best bet is to compromise and let them have a win. If history is an indicator, the new rules/regs will fall apart in 2-4 years.

Relax.
 
2013-01-25 02:04:46 AM

NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: constitutional implications.

Blacks were 3/5ths a person. Women had no vote.

Preach to me again about the import of that f*cking piece of paper.


You tell us, soldier, you're the one who swore an oath to protect and defend it with your life.

Unless you're lying about that too.
 
2013-01-25 02:05:49 AM

Frank N Stein: "There was slavery 150 years ago, therefore the federal government should be able to institute an official religion"


Because I said that... right? Nope. Jackass.
 
2013-01-25 02:07:31 AM

NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: "There was slavery 150 years ago, therefore the federal government should be able to institute an official religion"

Because I said that... right? Nope. Jackass.


No, but that argument is just as valid as yours.
 
2013-01-25 02:09:09 AM

Fark It: You tell us, soldier, you're the one who swore an oath to protect and defend it with your life.

Unless you're lying about that too.


What the f*ck? I now work for the Veterans Administration making sure vets get their medications. Disabled vets like myself. Making sure we take care of those we sent into battle, their widow, orphans...

Go f*ck yourself.
 
2013-01-25 02:14:48 AM

Frank N Stein: No, but that argument is just as valid as yours.


I'm sorry that you fail at the English language.
 
2013-01-25 02:37:45 AM
NewportBarGuy:

I am only saying this because I care - there are a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market today that are just as tasty as the real thing.
 
2013-01-25 02:38:42 AM
NewportBarGuy
Frank N Stein: constitutional implications.

Blacks were 3/5ths a person. Women had no vote.

Preach to me again about the import of that f*cking piece of paper.


Can you point to me which amendment in the Bill of Rights said "women not being allowed to vote shall not be infringed," and "the upgrading of darkies from 3/5ths a person to one whole shall not be undertook?"
 
2013-01-25 02:39:39 AM
Hey pigs can have small dicks too.
 
2013-01-25 02:42:55 AM

NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: RIFLE! WE'RE DOOMED

I love how you've excluded those with a 30 round clip.

That's not very 'well regulated' of you.


Do you want my "evil assault" M1 Carbine (it shoots .30 carbine..basically a pistol round) banned also?

/Feinstein does
//I'd mention my SAR-1 but it's banned by name on her newest proposal so I know where you stand on that
 
2013-01-25 02:43:47 AM
Marion Iowa PD is the home of hyper-vigilant police who see their job as not just patroling, but as para-military.

Some of the young officer will actually provoke if it will get arrests.

They don't patrol, they professionally lurk.

I don't disagree with officers carrying heavier rifles in their truck, but some of the officers in this dept will find a way to legally abuse this.
 
2013-01-25 02:45:03 AM

BarkingUnicorn: "The new guns will ultimately be paid for by the officers themselves who are taking a deduction in their paychecks to make this happen."

Something smells fishy about that.


And dangerous.

Screw over a teacher, you get protests. Screw over a cop, you get revolutions.
 
2013-01-25 02:45:35 AM

NewportBarGuy: Fark It: You tell us, soldier, you're the one who swore an oath to protect and defend it with your life.

Unless you're lying about that too.

What the f*ck? I now work for the Veterans Administration making sure vets get their medications. Disabled vets like myself. Making sure we take care of those we sent into battle, their widow, orphans...

Go f*ck yourself.


You need someone to make sure YOU get your meds, You seem off your rocker dude.
 
2013-01-25 02:49:02 AM
IlGreven,
BarkingUnicorn: "The new guns will ultimately be paid for by the officers themselves who are taking a deduction in their paychecks to make this happen."
Something smells fishy about that.


You need to know that they finance their toys through creative law enforcement. Sometimes following drivers one or two yards behind the car they are tailing, sometime escalating incidents. This will not be free.
 
2013-01-25 02:53:50 AM

BarkingUnicorn: "The new guns will ultimately be paid for by the officers themselves who are taking a deduction in their paychecks to make this happen."

Something smells fishy about that.


shawshankfiles.files.wordpress.com

Well you see, that's deductible...
 
2013-01-25 02:54:13 AM

Fark It: LOL. When a sniveling citizen wants one they're "military-style assault weapons." When cops want them they're "patrol rifles." Bunch of Orwellian horseshiat.


Personally I want to take assault riffles and other military style hardware away from both the nutters and the cops.
 
2013-01-25 02:55:46 AM
tacos813 SmartestFunniest 2013-01-25 02:45:35 AM


NewportBarGuy: Fark It: You tell us, soldier, you're the one who swore an oath to protect and defend it with your life.

Unless you're lying about that too.

What the f*ck? I now work for the Veterans Administration making sure vets get their medications. Disabled vets like myself. Making sure we take care of those we sent into battle, their widow, orphans...

Go f*ck yourself.

You need someone to make sure YOU get your meds, You seem off your rocker dude.


Actually, the last thing he needs is meds. There are some studies that keep getting buried because large pharm companies dont want this shiat getting out, but a LOT of those psych drugs, especially Prozac, cause violent reactions. I'm afraid that as "mental health" is pushed more in an effort to curb these events, it will only cause more as we know what "mental health" means in the US. Getting you hooked on pills
 
2013-01-25 02:56:53 AM

gibbon1: Fark It: LOL. When a sniveling citizen wants one they're "military-style assault weapons." When cops want them they're "patrol rifles." Bunch of Orwellian horseshiat.

Personally I want to take assault riffles and other military style hardware away from both the nutters and the cops.


Sadly sometimes they're one and the same.
 
2013-01-25 03:00:11 AM
Funny thread.
 
2013-01-25 03:00:37 AM

NewportBarGuy: fusillade762: Blame these guys:

Why?

Something that happened 20 years ago in a city with a SWAT unit has what relevance to this debate? None. Your answer is: NONE.

Reload and take aim.


There's no cure for stupid this incredible.
 
2013-01-25 03:02:07 AM

violentsalvation: NewportBarGuy: violentsalvation: ut frankly, I'm sick of the ignorance that we see in these debates.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.


Funny thing, did you know that if more than 10 firearms backtracked by law enforcement, the FFL that sold those firearms has to give the ATF the personal information, and records of sale of every single person that have dealt with to the ATF? Now imagine if every private sale had to go through a FFL? It's backdoor registration.
 
2013-01-25 03:02:11 AM

Fail in Human Form: Do you want my "evil assault" M1 Carbine (it shoots .30 carbine..basically a pistol round) banned also?


Ooooh. Folding Para-stock or original wood stock?

Inquiring minds want to know.

/M1 Carbine owner.
//The ammo is expensive as shiat.
 
2013-01-25 03:05:41 AM

NewportBarGuy: Fark It: You tell us, soldier, you're the one who swore an oath to protect and defend it with your life.

Unless you're lying about that too.

What the f*ck? I now work for the Veterans Administration making sure vets get their medications. Disabled vets like myself. Making sure we take care of those we sent into battle, their widow, orphans...

Go f*ck yourself.


What was your MOS? Where did you do basic and what year did you do it? What was your first duty station?

What is MEPS?

Are you a naval aviator?

i23.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-25 03:06:17 AM
I used to bullseye womp rats with my AR-15 back home, they're not much bigger than two meters.
 
2013-01-25 03:06:58 AM
I need to add that these things stay in the trunks until there is a reason to pull them into domestic disturbances with slings being carried on the back.

The Marion PD does use 'sap gloves'.
 
2013-01-25 03:07:00 AM

violentsalvation: NewportBarGuy: violentsalvation: ut frankly, I'm sick of the ignorance that we see in these debates.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.


Have you considered penis enlargement surgery? That would have a 0% chance of butchering 26 kindergarteners.
 
2013-01-25 03:08:22 AM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: violentsalvation: NewportBarGuy: violentsalvation: ut frankly, I'm sick of the ignorance that we see in these debates.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.

Have you considered penis enlargement surgery? That would have a 0% chance of butchering 26 kindergarteners.


It must be nice dancing on the graves on children. Tell me, are you also wearing cleats?
 
2013-01-25 03:09:24 AM
Whatever. Seattle PD sometimes carry AR-15s in their cars. Or even on their cars.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-25 03:10:32 AM

GUTSU: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: violentsalvation: NewportBarGuy: violentsalvation: ut frankly, I'm sick of the ignorance that we see in these debates.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.

Have you considered penis enlargement surgery? That would have a 0% chance of butchering 26 kindergarteners.

It must be nice dancing on the graves on children. Tell me, are you also wearing cleats?


s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-01-25 03:12:01 AM

Fail in Human Form: NewportBarGuy: Frank N Stein: RIFLE! WE'RE DOOMED

I love how you've excluded those with a 30 round clip.

That's not very 'well regulated' of you.

Do you want my "evil assault" M1 Carbine (it shoots .30 carbine..basically a pistol round) banned also?

/Feinstein does
//I'd mention my SAR-1 but it's banned by name on her newest proposal so I know where you stand on that


I saw a list today and the M1 carbine wasn't on it.

It occured to me today that Feinstein wants to make military style rifles so rare we will mainly see them on movie screens, TV shows and video games, and they would cause less deaths than back yard pools. Hey, mission accomplished!
 
2013-01-25 03:12:22 AM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Have you considered penis enlargement surgery? That would have a 0% chance of butchering 26 kindergarteners.


To be fair, 26 children means a LOT of blood, and some ammunition is cheap. Have you SEEN the cost of interior red paint lately? It's outrageous. I can't afford sacrifices to the Lord God Slanaash with paint anymore, and he's getting a bit pissy lately about it. Animals just aren't cutting it for him anymore, man.

Personally, using rock salt loads in a 410 brings him the most pleasure. I think it's those screams. Like the seagulls on a beach in the morning as the tide receeds. Especially if you aim for the chest or abdomen.
i15.tinypic.com
 
2013-01-25 03:12:25 AM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: violentsalvation: NewportBarGuy: violentsalvation: ut frankly, I'm sick of the ignorance that we see in these debates.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.

Have you considered penis enlargement surgery? That would have a 0% chance of butchering 26 kindergarteners.


Thank you for fulfilling the requisite gun thread penis comment. You help save children with that, you really do.
 
2013-01-25 03:13:41 AM
The AR-15 appears nowhere in the constitution.

FACT!
 
2013-01-25 03:13:47 AM

BronyMedic: There's no cure for stupid this incredible.


Wait... just to be clear, which one of us is stupid? If it's me please feel free to say so. It wouldn't be the first time. Or the last.
 
2013-01-25 03:15:03 AM

fusillade762: BronyMedic: There's no cure for stupid this incredible.

Wait... just to be clear, which one of us is stupid? If it's me please feel free to say so. It wouldn't be the first time. Or the last.


Oh, no. I'm talking about NewportBarGuy's insane trolling through this entire thread. Plus his attempt to one-up FLYNAVY.
 
2013-01-25 03:15:29 AM
FTA: The officers would be allowed to carry these weapons in their police vehicles once properly trained, and would be only used to neutralize a potential threat, according to Daugherty.

So what the hell have they been using their sidearm for all these years?!
 
2013-01-25 03:17:42 AM

NewportBarGuy: Go f*ck yourself.


Most convincing argument I've seen in a while.
 
2013-01-25 03:18:48 AM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: GUTSU:
It must be nice dancing on the graves on children. Tell me, are you also wearing cleats?

[s3.amazonaws.com image 300x168]


Keep jerkin' it to the dead kids, I'm sure you and Feinstein would make a good couple.
 
2013-01-25 03:19:05 AM
America lost itself when the war on drugs turned peace officers into law enforcement officers. The war on terror has just accelerated our demise.

I'm willing to turn in my AR if the Cops do the same. That is my gun owner compromise. Yeah, never gonna happen, we are farked.
 
2013-01-25 03:21:10 AM

Public Savant: FTA: The officers would be allowed to carry these weapons in their police vehicles once properly trained, and would be only used to neutralize a potential threat, according to Daugherty.

So what the hell have they been using their sidearm for all these years?!


Yeah, why would patrolmen need assault rifles, anyway? (Video NSFW, shows cops getting ambushed and murdered) I mean, they'd never need a reason to use them, right? (Video NSFW, shows cops getting ambushed and shot, and bad-ass gamewarden fu with an M4 rifle.)

/West Memphis, 2010.
 
2013-01-25 03:21:19 AM

GUTSU: violentsalvation: NewportBarGuy: violentsalvation: ut frankly, I'm sick of the ignorance that we see in these debates.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.

Funny thing, did you know that if more than 10 firearms backtracked by law enforcement, the FFL that sold those firearms has to give the ATF the personal information, and records of sale of every single person that have dealt with to the ATF? Now imagine if every private sale had to go through a FFL? It's backdoor registration.


The backdoor registration bothers me, because that has a hint of "oh hey we changed our minds, fork it over". I'd hope legislation allowing private parties to access the NICS would understand that a private sale is not the same as someone who is explicitly in the business of selling firearms.
 
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