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2013-01-25 10:45:58 AM
This has already been going on for the past 10 years in a sense for actors in general. Hollywood used to hold this magic and mystique over their audiences. Seeing an actor or even a top of the line director was something incredible and rare; they were basically on another plane of existence. Red carpets were incredibly glamouous and parties were special.

Now, with social media and the interwebbys, we can instantly transmit every little detail about every actors grocery shopping trip, their vacations and kids. Sure, there were Hollywood magazines back in the day to chronicle these things, but those don't even come close to comparing the amount of media that can be consumed nowadays. With porn, it used to be taboo but now it's much harder to monetize something that is losing it's mystery.
 
2013-01-25 10:47:44 AM

preybyemail: littlett's: Rev. Skarekroe: padraig: LDM90: Yeah, there's been a definite change over the last 20 years (maybe even just 10). The regular stuff is still out there but other stuff is pretty nasty. And if there are any porn stars reading, for the love of god, no more spitting. I can't imagine who they think would want to watch that.

Yeah, I never understood the "spitting for lube" thing. Not only is it gross, but it also is an admission of failure from the man, who could not get her girl wet enough.

You may be interested to know that individual women are biologically different from each other and some produce more natural lubricant than others.

It is still pretty gross to watch.  Nothing turns me off more than watching a girl spit on another girls snatch.

I tend to stay away from hocking loogs, unless its gonzo time.

Some spit, applied subtly to a finger, then transfered to a lady or man bit, is not gonzo porn spitting.


Spit is fine on your tongue but not on your finger.

Thems the rules.
 
2013-01-25 10:53:26 AM

brap: My favorite sex industry book is "Tales of Times Square" which captures the double deuce at its sleaziest and funniest.

It was written by Josh Friedman who was a beat reporter for Screw Magazine.  That straddles the fine line between dream and nightmare job.

His brother, Drew happens to be one of my favorite illustrators.

The interwebby killed pornstar fandom, sometimes I wonder if it killed gonzo journalism.


Great book. The part about Al Goldsteins wager on the number of orgasms he could have in one day was gold.
 
2013-01-25 10:54:34 AM

calm like a bomb: preybyemail: calm like a bomb: preybyemail: A little spit goes a long way when properly administered.

So does lube. Grownups should have some.

When im done being married and raising my kids can you teach me to be a douche when i grow up like you!?!?

Women all being different (surely dont have to explain that to you smart guy), ive found several who dont LIKE the feeling of artificial lubes. A few who were allergic, or my wife who only likes lube with toys or fetish play but not with regular everyday sex.

Bet penthouse forums didnt tell you that mr. Grownup.

There are several hundred varieties, covering multiple ingredients and tactile qualities. Settle down, Francis, and try some variation.


Water base? Silicone? Natural? What works with what toys? What works best with flesh? Viscous? Thin? What works best with a rubber? What makes two cyberskin dongs work best in the same hole? Anal vs. Vaginal? Throat lubes for deep throating? A good fap lube? What to use with a fleshlight?

Many lubes have their place. So does saliva. I encourage everyone to try them all to see what fits you and your play best.

The point though, is if you are ok with semen, and vag fluid, that a little spit is ok and has its humble place in the bedroom.
 
2013-01-25 11:10:08 AM
some people, too few if you ask me, are posting pictures and too many people are discussing the merrits of saliva... what a strange thread

lexi and jenna sitting in a tree
l-i-c-k-i-n-g
first comes gloves, then you rammer
now her hands in the baby hamper
 
2013-01-25 11:14:48 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: That's not sex? Since when are women more than sperm depository units?


Thi s is not always about your mom.
 
2013-01-25 11:20:49 AM

preybyemail: a little spit is ok and has its humble place in the bedroom


I don't think the issue is with the fluid, but with its currently fashionable mode of delivery.

Tongue, finger, sure.

But, as spitting is the single most universally recognized insult across all civilizations, it carries some emotional weight.

Some see spitting and think "Gross! Vulgar! Dirty! Hooray!"

Some just think "Gross! Vulgar!".

I for one, am of the latter variety. I'm pretty starkly plain vanilla.

Other people's boats float on different pools of fluid than mine, I'm cool with that.

I count myself among those who are troubled by the trend in current pron to themes of degradation and abuse. It's hard to argue to people that porn is "empowering" and "non-exploitative" these days.

For me, sex is about making you and your partner feel good. I just don't get how humiliation, pain, or things of that sort help that along. And I've been with women who wanted more kink from me than I was comfortable providing, and since we weren't compatible, we parted as friends. I get it. I really do.

It's just a thing that I don't get into, personally.
 
2013-01-25 11:37:44 AM

preybyemail: calm like a bomb: preybyemail: calm like a bomb: preybyemail: A little spit goes a long way when properly administered.

So does lube. Grownups should have some.

When im done being married and raising my kids can you teach me to be a douche when i grow up like you!?!?

Women all being different (surely dont have to explain that to you smart guy), ive found several who dont LIKE the feeling of artificial lubes. A few who were allergic, or my wife who only likes lube with toys or fetish play but not with regular everyday sex.

Bet penthouse forums didnt tell you that mr. Grownup.

There are several hundred varieties, covering multiple ingredients and tactile qualities. Settle down, Francis, and try some variation.

Water base? Silicone? Natural? What works with what toys? What works best with flesh? Viscous? Thin? What works best with a rubber? What makes two cyberskin dongs work best in the same hole? Anal vs. Vaginal? Throat lubes for deep throating? A good fap lube? What to use with a fleshlight?

Many lubes have their place. So does saliva. I encourage everyone to try them all to see what fits you and your play best.

The point though, is if you are ok with semen, and vag fluid, that a little spit is ok and has its humble place in the bedroom.


Vag?

www.hexdiagnostics.co.za

/VW owner
//can't hear vag without think about that problem with block 16
 
2013-01-25 12:14:49 PM

kungfu jesus with a side of lime: some people, too few if you ask me, are posting pictures and too many people are discussing the merrits of saliva... what a strange thread

lexi and jenna sitting in a tree
l-i-c-k-i-n-g
first comes gloves, then you rammer
now her hands in the baby hamper


(Sigh) I tried but these guys wanted to argue about who's the bigger stick in the mud. It's a weird world when people would rather argue about spit than look at sexy ladies.


i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-25 12:15:23 PM
I agree with the farkers who say the biggest difference between the porn made now and that of 10-20 years ago is the increasingly violent nature of the sex these days. Now, I'm all in favor of different strokes for different folks (so to speak), but watching a buncha guys verbally abusing some young girl, and trying to sexually degrade and humiliate her is not my idea of fun. I mean, quite the opposite. It strikes me as a total turn-off and I can't understand the appeal of that sort of thing.

On the other hand, what's with the trend I see more of lately, where the female performer goes over the top with talking dirty to the camera? A little dirty talk is fine, sure, but it should be directed toward her partner(s). And is it really necessary for the lady to put herself down in the process? This business of hamming it up for the camera only makes the sex look even less natural than I already know it is, at least compared to being with my GF.

\Also gotta go along with the observation that the European devotchkas seem to be hotter than 'Namerikan girls now. And that one little Russian honey, Katrin, is a honey and a half.
\\Excuse me, I'll be in my bunk.
 
2013-01-25 12:21:40 PM

Beerguy: Mentat: Damn kids.  Back in my day, we had to earn it.  Scrambled late night Cinemax, and we liked it!

For me it was a scrambled Z channel .

/The lawn....off of it


Where we lived, even the Grand Ole Opry was scrambled.
 
2013-01-25 12:35:26 PM
Ookbay Arkmay
 
2013-01-25 12:44:31 PM

Crewmannumber6: Ookbay Arkmay


Might as well make it worth it.

i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-25 01:08:26 PM

december: Rev. Skarekroe: I'm guessing actual hipsters would be very polite to any porn stars they met

in my experience, this guy

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 329x450]

is just this guy with more facial hair and different clothes

[i915.photobucket.com image 501x412]


Hey, Devendra! He's more of a folkie. Oh hell, just read Skarecrow's post, sorry about that. Anyway hipsters can't get into Swans (one of the best bands in the world) cuz they're too REAL, MAN!!!
 
2013-01-25 01:27:58 PM

december: in my experience, this guy

3.bp.blogspot.com

is just this guy with more facial hair and different clothes


Those kinds of guys always eventually show up and ruin the party. Beatnik's got overrun, hippies got overrun, etc etc. Fortunately the cool kids are one step ahead. That current scene is actually... I've said enough I think.
 
2013-01-25 01:54:58 PM

Wayne 985: I don't like throwing out words like "misogynistic", but it kind of is. Porn itself is great, but good lord... I want to see people having sex, not one person degrading another.


So your saying that spitting on her a** or vagoo, or cock being slapped on her face, or shooting a load into her face doesn't turn you on?

/Maybe i'm doing it wrong too... hmm.
 
2013-01-25 01:55:38 PM
My business has a technology that is important to the future of porn. I was a speaker at XBIZ in LA two years ago and have gone to AVN twice.

The most surreal moment of my life was standing in line for the perp walk in front of the XBIZ awards show in LA. In front of me was Aria Giovanni (the second most beautiful woman in the world IMHO) talking to me about my suit and behind me was the owner of the bunny ranch. Here I was, a tech geek, being fawned over.

AVN is where a lot of the girls make their money. They book private meet-and-greet (suck and fark) sessions with super fans for thousands of dollars. For enough money you can make a porn video with your favorite starlet to take home with you.

A lot of the CES guys will offer to buy your AVN lanyard.
 
2013-01-25 02:08:12 PM

AgentBang: This has already been going on for the past 10 years in a sense for actors in general. Hollywood used to hold this magic and mystique over their audiences. Seeing an actor or even a top of the line director was something incredible and rare; they were basically on another plane of existence. Red carpets were incredibly glamouous and parties were special.

Now, with social media and the interwebbys, we can instantly transmit every little detail about every actors grocery shopping trip, their vacations and kids. Sure, there were Hollywood magazines back in the day to chronicle these things, but those don't even come close to comparing the amount of media that can be consumed nowadays. With porn, it used to be taboo but now it's much harder to monetize something that is losing it's mystery.


Are you seriously lamenting the days where people worshiped other human beings -- who happened to be famous -- like deities? What possible benefit could there be to that?
 
2013-01-25 02:10:10 PM

imgod2u: AgentBang: This has already been going on for the past 10 years in a sense for actors in general. Hollywood used to hold this magic and mystique over their audiences. Seeing an actor or even a top of the line director was something incredible and rare; they were basically on another plane of existence. Red carpets were incredibly glamouous and parties were special.

Now, with social media and the interwebbys, we can instantly transmit every little detail about every actors grocery shopping trip, their vacations and kids. Sure, there were Hollywood magazines back in the day to chronicle these things, but those don't even come close to comparing the amount of media that can be consumed nowadays. With porn, it used to be taboo but now it's much harder to monetize something that is losing it's mystery.

Are you seriously lamenting the days where people worshiped other human beings -- who happened to be famous -- like deities? What possible benefit could there be to that?


It distracts the peasants from what my rich friends and I are doing.
 
2013-01-25 02:10:42 PM
Speaking of spitting. I wonder if that's considered "vanilla" when the fremen have sex.

It's so dry where they live...
 
2013-01-25 04:45:06 PM

imgod2u: Speaking of spitting. I wonder if that's considered "vanilla" when the fremen have sex.

It's so dry where they live...


They use a stilcondom. A little awkward where they place the catchpockets
 
2013-01-25 04:52:40 PM

mosten: My business has a technology that is important to the future of porn. I was a speaker at XBIZ in LA two years ago and have gone to AVN twice.

The most surreal moment of my life was standing in line for the perp walk in front of the XBIZ awards show in LA. In front of me was Aria Giovanni (the second most beautiful woman in the world IMHO) talking to me about my suit and behind me was the owner of the bunny ranch. Here I was, a tech geek, being fawned over.

AVN is where a lot of the girls make their money. They book private meet-and-greet (suck and fark) sessions with super fans for thousands of dollars. For enough money you can make a porn video with your favorite starlet to take home with you.

A lot of the CES guys will offer to buy your AVN lanyard.


I still have a Go F*** Yourself Fleece Sweater I cant wear outside. Never been to a show in my life. Never appealed to me either.

/Tell them to make more schoolgirl content dammit!
 
2013-01-25 05:17:14 PM

Rumpertumpskin: Went to shake Rocco Sifreddi's hand at a bar in Milano. He grabbed my head and stuffed it into his crotch and spit into my wife's mouth. Friendly sort.


ROFL.
 
2013-01-25 05:36:29 PM

TommyymmoT: fusillade762: They seem offended when I don't get up and give them a hug

CSB time:

I got a hug from Jeanna Fine at the Good Vibration awards in San Francisco many years ago. She was topless except for pasties. My GF at the time got one, too.

[actormunder.com image 250x450]

/csb

I just erased a massive tome about her, that I couldn't finish properly due to too much beer.

tl:dr:
I used to live with her, pre-porn, and she is one of the most compassionate, nicest persons that you would ever want to meet.
When I lived with her, (early 80s) she was a demure, early 20s shy blond girl.
I respect her greatly, but was repulsed when I later on, I learned that she had dyed her hair black, and got a massive boob job.

I'm going to sleep, I'll reply in the morning.
Her given name is Angel.
Angelique, actually.


Yay, pornstar csb thread.  Sorry to just piggyback on yours but mine has a bit to do with it.  When i lived in Los Angeles, a friend of mine did some Hustler work and she and I hung out with the new generation of adult film stars.   Apparently Larry Flint hooks them up with apartments and jobs in the Hustler Store and sort of makes sure they're comfortable. And I must say, yes, they were the nicest, funniest, most gracious people I ever caroused with in Hollywood.  (not to say there aren't asshole pornstars, but not among this particular group.  Ladies and gentlemen, one and all.

I have also dropped ecstasy with pre-implant/pre-shockbrows/pre-resume Lanny Barbie in her apartment--she's nice too, but I might be biased by the experience.  I sampled wine with Ron Jeremy one night.  Intelligent guy and again--impeccable manners.  And he knows quite a bit about wine.
 
2013-01-25 05:55:45 PM
I knew Amee Donovan back when she had just started getting into porn. I wish we'd kept in touch.
 
2013-01-25 06:41:48 PM
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7555091/82116595#c82116595" target="_blank">Elegy</a>:</b> <i>Crewmannumber6: Ookbay Arkmay

Might as well make it worth it.

[i.imgur.com image 250x350]

[i.imgur.com image 300x488]</i>

Who is the girl in the top pic?
 
2013-01-25 07:44:03 PM

gibbon1: december: in my experience, this guy

3.bp.blogspot.com

is just this guy with more facial hair and different clothes

Those kinds of guys always eventually show up and ruin the party. Beatnik's got overrun, hippies got overrun, etc etc. Fortunately the cool kids are one step ahead. That current scene is actually... I've said enough I think.


Don't worry about, most people find me anyway.
 
2013-01-25 07:59:15 PM

padraig: LDM90: Yeah, there's been a definite change over the last 20 years (maybe even just 10). The regular stuff is still out there but other stuff is pretty nasty. And if there are any porn stars reading, for the love of god, no more spitting. I can't imagine who they think would want to watch that.

Yeah, I never understood the "spitting for lube" thing. Not only is it gross, but it also is an admission of failure from the man, who could not get her girl wet enough.


First of all, they're at work.  Secondly, the stuff you're watching was mostly the last shots of the day.

Third, don't you watch the news?

i915.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-25 09:43:21 PM
CSB with porn/metal crossover - I was there this year. Didn't spring for a ticket to the awards show, but I was watching the video feed in the VIP lounge next door. At one point I noticed I was standing next to Vinnie Paul. It was cosmic.

\m/ \m/
 
2013-01-25 11:16:12 PM

Quagdingo: <b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7555091/82116595#c82116595" target="_blank">Elegy</a>:</b> <i>Crewmannumber6: Ookbay Arkmay

Might as well make it worth it.

[i.imgur.com image 250x350]

[i.imgur.com image 300x488]</i>

Who is the girl in the top pic?


Natasha Shy
i.imgur.com
 
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