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(Times Live South Africa)   How to build a home - 1. Print blueprints. 2. Print house. 3. Profit   (timeslive.co.za) divider line 51
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2013-01-24 08:35:59 PM
This raises more Questions than it Answers.
 
2013-01-24 09:39:28 PM
In the future, they will practically give the 3D printers away and gouge you on colored brick fluid.
 
2013-01-24 10:08:30 PM
I *still* wouldn't encourage the Three Little Pigs to take up residence there against the Big Bad Wolf.
 
2013-01-24 10:31:07 PM
"So you could take the printer to the moon, assemble it there and print with moon material."

Hmmm. I can actually see this as somewhat do-able. Of course, the service call when the  thing jams is going to be quite expensive.
 
2013-01-24 10:59:22 PM

alienated: "So you could take the printer to the moon, assemble it there and print with moon material."

Hmmm. I can actually see this as somewhat do-able. Of course, the service call when the  thing jams is going to be quite expensive.


Use a big fresnel lens and the 2 weeks of sunlight and you can melt moon dust into obsidian. You can make a contigious structure over time. Automate it somehow and the work'll go even faster.
 
2013-01-25 12:02:46 AM
application.denofgeek.com
 
2013-01-25 12:20:44 AM

fusillade762: This raises more Questions than it Answers.


Ah, I see you've watched Prometheus also...
 
2013-01-25 12:21:06 AM
I bet the 'ink cartridge' cost would be quite expensive.
 
2013-01-25 12:23:19 AM
My inner child wants a 3d printer. Now.
 
2013-01-25 12:39:43 AM
"The project would take around 18 months to build and the printer "might be active for half a year," Ruijssenaars said."

pfffftttt... 18 months! I want it now!
 
2013-01-25 12:42:24 AM
Fun fact: moon dust is a carcinogen when inhaled. Right now we have plenty of concrete buildings that have asbestos in the cement mix, and no one is planning on tearing those down on their dime...
 
2013-01-25 12:44:22 AM

fusillade762: This raises more Questions than it Answers.


What you did there, I see it.
 
2013-01-25 12:53:54 AM
1) Print blueprints 2) Assemble house from shiat tier materials 3) House inna woods 4) ??? 5) WACO
 
2013-01-25 12:57:59 AM
FTFA: Ruijssenaars says the building could serve as a home or a museum and would have parts usually made from concrete printed using broken up rocks and an emulsion binding, while steel and glass would provide the facade.

Hmm... I wonder if this kind of mixture will clog up those tiny little holes in the printer cartridge...
 
2013-01-25 01:10:08 AM
Janjaap Ruijssenaars, 39, of Universe Architecture in Amsterdam, wants to print a Mobius strip-shaped building

How does he plan on separating the inside from the outside?
 
2013-01-25 01:13:21 AM
Then you install all the parts that normally take up all the time and expense like fixtures, carpeting, windows, wiring, hardware, etc. etc. Foundation and inspections will probably be a joy too.
 
2013-01-25 01:20:26 AM
Yeah thats great and all but when are they gonna come up with a better name? 3D printer?
 
2013-01-25 01:22:09 AM
His name alone is a glorious testament to vowel hoarding ingenious architecture....
 
2013-01-25 01:22:55 AM

buckler: Janjaap Ruijssenaars, 39, of Universe Architecture in Amsterdam, wants to print a Mobius strip-shaped building

How does he plan on separating the inside from the outside?


You are thinking of a Klein bottle. I'm guessing his house is this one:

i.i.com.com
/hot
 
2013-01-25 01:26:44 AM
Why do they call them printers and not CNC machines?
 
2013-01-25 01:34:03 AM

styckx: Why do they call them printers and not CNC machines?


CNC machines use subtractive processes to form a smaller part out of a larger piece of stock material. (Cutting, grinding, etc)
3D printers use additive processes to form large parts out of a reservoir of stock material. (FDM, SLA, etc)
 
2013-01-25 01:36:48 AM

superspeck: "The project would take around 18 months to build and the printer "might be active for half a year," Ruijssenaars said."

pfffftttt... 18 months! I want it now!


okay jim harbaugh.
 
2013-01-25 01:36:54 AM

SquishyLizard: styckx: Why do they call them printers and not CNC machines?

CNC machines use subtractive processes to form a smaller part out of a larger piece of stock material. (Cutting, grinding, etc)
3D printers use additive processes to form large parts out of a reservoir of stock material. (FDM, SLA, etc)


The only issue I have with the difference between the processes is that I've seen a few 3D printers billed as G-code driven, and that auto-classifies it as CNC in my mind. Is that incorrect?
 
2013-01-25 01:55:30 AM

Gurlugon: SquishyLizard: styckx: Why do they call them printers and not CNC machines?

CNC machines use subtractive processes to form a smaller part out of a larger piece of stock material. (Cutting, grinding, etc)
3D printers use additive processes to form large parts out of a reservoir of stock material. (FDM, SLA, etc)

The only issue I have with the difference between the processes is that I've seen a few 3D printers billed as G-code driven, and that auto-classifies it as CNC in my mind. Is that incorrect?


Technically correct, many 3D printers are G-code controlled (not all though). To be pedantic, CNC (computer numerical control) can be said to refer to any machine with a servomechanism. Colloquially however, it is useful to make the distinction between more traditional machines (lathes, mills, routers, etc) (subtractive) and newer ones that use fundamentally different part creation processes (additive). It is left as a murky exercise to the reader to determine what categories to use for other systems, such as a robotic welding system or an entirely automated assembly line. (2 sheets welded together -> additive? Tree goes in one end, tiny icecream spoons out the other -> CNC machine?) At the end of the day, it all comes down to making X number of parts at quality Y less than cost Z, whatever the name you call the process/system/device that gets you there is unimportant.
 
2013-01-25 02:11:30 AM
At some point all we will need is a master maker with all the blueprints stored inside that can make a machine that can make a machine..(rinse, repeat) that can make a machine that can make anything you want.

The initial master maker would probably fit in your pocket or be built into your environment suit.
 
2013-01-25 02:15:55 AM

SquishyLizard: styckx: Why do they call them printers and not CNC machines?

CNC machines use subtractive processes to form a smaller part out of a larger piece of stock material. (Cutting, grinding, etc)
3D printers use additive processes to form large parts out of a reservoir of stock material. (FDM, SLA, etc)


Why don't they call them fabricators, which sounds better?
 
2013-01-25 02:46:56 AM

dready zim: At some point all we will need is a master maker with all the blueprints stored inside that can make a machine that can make a machine..(rinse, repeat) that can make a machine that can make anything you want.

The initial master maker would probably fit in your pocket or be built into your environment suit.


I can't wait for the gadget next to my wallet in my pants pocket to go BLEEP BLOOP execute world_domination.bat
 
2013-01-25 02:57:43 AM

dready zim: At some point all we will need is a master maker with all the blueprints stored inside that can make a machine that can make a machine..(rinse, repeat) that can make a machine that can make anything you want.

The initial master maker would probably fit in your pocket or be built into your environment suit.


Sort of like one of these, but smaller.
media.giantbomb.com
 
2013-01-25 03:17:20 AM
Replicators.

These things evolve into Replicators.

So there.
 
2013-01-25 03:49:58 AM

fusillade762: This raises more Questions than it Answers.


And he's still not here! Is there a summoning card, or do you have to say his name 3 times?
 
2013-01-25 04:58:03 AM

SquishyLizard: At the end of the day, it all comes down to making X number of parts at quality Y less than cost Z, whatever the name you call the process/system/device that gets you there is unimportant.


So how do you refer to "the process/system/device"?

Something without a name is scary.

/hear a noise in the dark (scary), oh it is a squirrel (not scary anymore)
 
2013-01-25 05:41:38 AM
FTA: The Mobius-strip shaped result ... would cost around four million euros ($5.3 million) to construct,

Meh, call me when I can turn out a 1200-foot 3/1.5 for $30,000.
 
2013-01-25 07:04:06 AM
He's gonna need a bigger printer
 
2013-01-25 08:29:40 AM
3D printers are going to be the photo-printers of this decade. It will be cheaper, faster, and better to just go to the store and buy the part you need.
 
2013-01-25 08:38:46 AM

Bored Horde: 3D printers are going to be the photo-printers of this decade. It will be cheaper, faster, and better to just go to the store and buy the part you need.


Unless the store doesn't have the part you need, or want, or you only want 1 and they come in packs of 20.
 
2013-01-25 08:47:16 AM
If I've learned anything from Cave Johnson, and I think I have, it's that conversion gel, made from ground up moon rocks, is pure poison (though it does make an excellent portal conductor)
 
2013-01-25 09:23:01 AM
He couldn't decide which of two topics he hates, to threadshiat on first... or he's out biking and running red lights....


As far as CNC and home building, there's a european contractor who is doing something neat now. He brings a very accurate CNC cutting system out to the work site for the house, then he brings in truck after truck of nothing but plywood panels, and the CNC cutter creates custom walls, ceilings, floors, that all tab together and interlock. He can build smooth compound curves or angular structures, and you can customize the home plans any way you like. He likens it to modular factory-built housing, but more custom and cut/assembled on site. Advantages include more rapid assembly than purely stick-built framing, and lower costs because there are fewer special parts to wait for. His crews spend 2 days cutting and three days assembling per week. Joints are tight and energy-efficient due to the close tolerances available thru the CNC.
 
2013-01-25 09:27:21 AM

Any Pie Left: He couldn't decide which of two topics he hates, to threadshiat on first... or he's out biking and running red lights....


As far as CNC and home building, there's a european contractor who is doing something neat now. He brings a very accurate CNC cutting system out to the work site for the house, then he brings in truck after truck of nothing but plywood panels, and the CNC cutter creates custom walls, ceilings, floors, that all tab together and interlock. He can build smooth compound curves or angular structures, and you can customize the home plans any way you like. He likens it to modular factory-built housing, but more custom and cut/assembled on site. Advantages include more rapid assembly than purely stick-built framing, and lower costs because there are fewer special parts to wait for. His crews spend 2 days cutting and three days assembling per week. Joints are tight and energy-efficient due to the close tolerances available thru the CNC.


Link? Name drop?

Right now for 3d-printed architecture it's between the D-Shape guy and the "contour crafting" guy. NEITHER can seem to actually get the venture capital required proceed to commercial viability. Hurry up, you guys, I want to design my house in about 10 years, and I want it printed & finished inside a week, for lower cost than traditional methods. Make it farking happen!
 
2013-01-25 09:34:25 AM

Any Pie Left:
As far as CNC and home building, there's a european contractor who is doing something neat now. He brings a very accurate CNC cutting system out to the work site for the house, then he brings in truck after truck of nothing but plywood panels, and the CNC cutter creates custom walls, ceilings, floors, that all tab together and interlock. He can build smooth compound curves or angular structures, and you can customize the home plans any way you like. He likens it to modular factory-built housing, but more custom and cut/assembled on site. Advantages include more rapid assembly than purely stick-built framing, and lower costs because there are fewer special parts to wait for. His crews spend 2 days cutting and three days assembling per week. Joints are tight and energy-efficient due to the close tolerances available thru the CNC.


Sounds cool, but what is the cost compared to a traditional stick-built home of the same design?
 
2013-01-25 10:01:09 AM

NiteGuy: Sounds cool, but what is the cost compared to a traditional stick-built home of the same design?


Certainly cheaper if you truly mean "same design". The trick here is that you want to use this type of service if you're building a home with a lot of custom intricate architecture... not your typical box house.
 
2013-01-25 10:24:00 AM

Alonjar: NiteGuy: Sounds cool, but what is the cost compared to a traditional stick-built home of the same design?

Certainly cheaper if you truly mean "same design". The trick here is that you want to use this type of service if you're building a home with a lot of custom intricate architecture... not your typical box house.


But if the CNC process is cheaper, we could use this to really build affordable housing, or put up a Habitat for Humanity home in a lot less time as well.
 
2013-01-25 11:30:15 AM
Step 1A) Go back in time 25 years when you might still see 'Blueprints' made

/Blueprints were made by copying hand drawn sheets. plotters made them no longer necessary
//miss the smell of fresh set of ammonia prints
 
2013-01-25 12:53:50 PM

UsikFark: I'm guessing his house is this one:


Sad that we have to guess since an article about a ground-breaking computer modeled house includes only a stock photo of a printer.
 
2013-01-25 03:21:23 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: I *still* wouldn't encourage the Three Little Pigs to take up residence there against the Big Bad Wolf.


I dunno, this sounds like the cheat code to Oink!
 
2013-01-25 03:24:41 PM

odigon: fusillade762: This raises more Questions than it Answers.

And he's still not here! Is there a summoning card, or do you have to say his name 3 times?


Typically he craps on other science themed threads, he seems to fall silent when there is a life extension thread or a 3d printer one. Space nuttery is fair game though.
 
2013-01-25 05:32:47 PM
a mobius shaped house?

well at least it isn't a teseract near a fault line
 
2013-01-25 05:33:32 PM

Duke Skymocker: My inner child wants a 3d printer. Now.


so do you have a few thousand laying around?
 
2013-01-25 05:35:36 PM

odigon: fusillade762: This raises more Questions than it Answers.

And he's still not here! Is there a summoning card, or do you have to say his name 3 times?


i think now that there's a Pavlovian response in regards to the subject, why does he need to show up at all?
 
2013-01-25 06:43:25 PM

dready zim: At some point all we will need is a master maker with all the blueprints stored inside that can make a machine that can make a machine..(rinse, repeat) that can make a machine that can make anything you want.

The initial master maker would probably fit in your pocket or be built into your environment suit.


images-eu.amazon.com
 
2013-01-25 11:17:00 PM
I felt bad that I didn't give a link, now that some people asked for it, so here it is:

http://www.humansinvent.com/#!/8891/the-world's-first-digitally-manuf a ctured-homes/
 
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