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(BBC)   Despite ban, some Americans still make and eat haggis. That's offal   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 75
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2013-01-24 08:17:41 PM
is there no love for souse?
 
2013-01-24 08:18:49 PM
Yep....Haggis: More Popular Than Ever!
Saw that billboard 9 times today.
 
2013-01-24 08:18:50 PM
Just pisses me off every time I think of it....If I want to eat lungs, the tyrants in DC should have no right to tell me I can't.
Only once in the last 10 years or so have I found a local farmer brave enough to sell me some, and they do make a difference in haggis.

So...if anyone in the FDA is listening....SHOVE IT UP YOUR ARSE!
 
2013-01-24 08:20:41 PM
Oh ho ho ho, subby! Offal! Headline of 2013!
 
2013-01-24 08:20:50 PM
And the American brag about their freedom.
Pshaw!

I've tried American haggis. It isn't a patch on the real thing.
 
2013-01-24 08:23:17 PM

Omahawg: is there no love for souse?


Massachusetts elected one eight times in a row. Is that not enough?
 
2013-01-24 08:23:57 PM
Customs Agent: You can't bring foodstuffs into the country.
Passenger: It's Haggis, it's a cultural artifact.
Customs Agent: I see your point, move a long sir.
 
2013-01-24 08:25:28 PM
www.ukcornershoppe.com
 
2013-01-24 08:26:40 PM
d.yimg.com
 
2013-01-24 08:30:26 PM
Why not file a law suet to get the ban reversed.
 
2013-01-24 08:32:27 PM
Most of Scottish cooking was invented on a dare.
 
2013-01-24 08:34:13 PM
I had some in Edinburgh drunk off my arse but I didn't know it has lung in it? That's nasty
 
2013-01-24 08:34:20 PM

lockers: Why not file a law suet to get the ban reversed.


File a lawsuit? You've got to be kidney!
 
2013-01-24 08:34:38 PM
It's the importation of haggis that's banned right? Not like it's illegal to eat sheep lung.
 
2013-01-24 08:37:47 PM
Offal? They are probably cereal offenders
 
2013-01-24 08:39:26 PM
Haggis?

content8.flixster.com
 
2013-01-24 08:39:42 PM
t0.gstatic.com

You can get it at this one butcher in San Francisco.
 
2013-01-24 08:40:31 PM

Abox: It's the importation of haggis that's banned right? Not like it's illegal to eat sheep lung.


Lamb lung is considered "inedible" by the USDA's Food Safety Inspection Service (the meat people), so it's illegal to use it in food that has to be inspected (i.e. anything you can buy at a store). There's nothing stopping you from buying lamb lung out the back door of a butcher shop or abattoir and making your own haggis, though it'd be illegal to sell.
 
2013-01-24 08:40:35 PM
FTA: "A 2003 survey suggested that a third of US visitors to Scotland believed the haggis was an animal. Nearly a quarter thought they could catch one."

my countrymen are so dumb
 
2013-01-24 08:40:58 PM
that's offal
 
2013-01-24 08:42:24 PM
The ban is for importing it, dumbmitter
Apparently it does come in a can
I saw it on Chopped.
Anyone know where I can get some?
 
2013-01-24 08:47:38 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: Offal? They are probably cereal offenders


Fortunately, the penalty for the crime is contained within the crime itself.
 
2013-01-24 08:49:25 PM
The irony is I just got a call from my boss today, and she told me that on Saturday we are going to be serving haggis to a group of Navy boys (I work on a navy base), I do not know if I will be able to try it, but I might just!
 
2013-01-24 08:50:51 PM
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2013-01-24 08:51:16 PM

BillArr: Just pisses me off every time I think of it....If I want to eat lungs, the tyrants in DC should have no right to tell me I can't.
Only once in the last 10 years or so have I found a local farmer brave enough to sell me some, and they do make a difference in haggis.

So...if anyone in the FDA is listening....SHOVE IT UP YOUR ARSE!


A real bootstrappy American would slaughter that sheep himself.
 
2013-01-24 08:53:06 PM
Robbie Burns night tomorrow. Tatties and neeps biatches!
 
2013-01-24 08:58:24 PM
What's the problem with the lung?  That's the only thing that's holding it back isn't it?  Is it something like mad cow disease where the organ gets infected and causes humans to die if eaten?  I just don't understand what the issue is with the lung parts. Everything else seems pretty normal to me, although I really don't like liver too much, I guess if it's seasoned well enough I'd eat it but it's got a taste that just doesn't agree with my palate.
 
2013-01-24 08:59:15 PM

tlchwi02: FTA: "A 2003 survey suggested that a third of US visitors to Scotland believed the haggis was an animal. Nearly a quarter thought they could catch one."

my countrymen are so dumb


You can catch one if it is thrown at you properly...
 
2013-01-24 09:00:21 PM

saeufer82: Abox: It's the importation of haggis that's banned right? Not like it's illegal to eat sheep lung.

Lamb lung is considered "inedible" by the USDA's Food Safety Inspection Service (the meat people), so it's illegal to use it in food that has to be inspected (i.e. anything you can buy at a store). There's nothing stopping you from buying lamb lung out the back door of a butcher shop or abattoir and making your own haggis, though it'd be illegal to sell.



Thanks Obama.
 
2013-01-24 09:01:15 PM

TheGreenMonkey: What's the problem with the lung?  That's the only thing that's holding it back isn't it?  Is it something like mad cow disease where the organ gets infected and causes humans to die if eaten?  I just don't understand what the issue is with the lung parts. Everything else seems pretty normal to me, although I really don't like liver too much, I guess if it's seasoned well enough I'd eat it but it's got a taste that just doesn't agree with my palate.


I think sheep can get TB
 
2013-01-24 09:02:01 PM
If I was drunk and didn't think too much about it...


But lung,
oh that's nasty. (Cleveland's voice)
 
2013-01-24 09:04:22 PM
I've had Haggis twice. The first time it was very tasty and peppery but a bit dry. The second time it less dry but a lot less flavorful. Both times were at Robbie Burns Night events in Canada. I'm not sure which experience was the most authentic, but I'd happily try it again to find out. Offal isn't awful at all.
 
2013-01-24 09:05:15 PM

TheGreenMonkey: What's the problem with the lung?  That's the only thing that's holding it back isn't it?  Is it something like mad cow disease where the organ gets infected and causes humans to die if eaten?  I just don't understand what the issue is with the lung parts. Everything else seems pretty normal to me, although I really don't like liver too much, I guess if it's seasoned well enough I'd eat it but it's got a taste that just doesn't agree with my palate.


Seconded. The FDA has labeled sheep's lung inedible, yet people eat them without ill effect all the time. So, what's the justification for it being labeled "inedible" and banning it?

On top of that, plenty of Americans are happy to eat chitterlings, which are usually cleaned with a dilute solution of bleach in water before cooking and no matter how much you spice 'em up will still literally taste like shiat.

I'd eat a lung before I'll ever taste intestines again.
 
2013-01-24 09:05:38 PM
So all this fuss about assault weapons was just a diversion, eh?
 
2013-01-24 09:09:15 PM
I thought Scots ate peat.
 
2013-01-24 09:14:35 PM

BlackMtnMan: I thought Scots ate peat.


I thought they ate oatmeal.
 
2013-01-24 09:15:57 PM
Don't act all grossed out by something you have limited experience with! As pointed out, it is illegal to sell much of the organ meat in the U.S.: Not illegal to consume it.

My father raised my sister and I on the offal. It was a boon to our family! It's expensive to run a farm but my father had a small head of cattle he raised and butchered. He sold the street-legal meat at local farmer's markets and used the profit to subsidize the farm itself. The illegal meat became the protein and fat of our daily diets. We didn't know any different and the nutritional value of these organs paired with the vegetables we grew, provided us with all that we needed. It is rude to publicly eschew what other people call dinner.
 
2013-01-24 09:17:10 PM
If it keeps the Scottish out, I'm for the ban. Time to ban Tim Hortons.
 
2013-01-24 09:21:05 PM
There are poor-people's food in every culture.

In Scotland they kept various non-meat/liver internal organs, jammed them into a stomach with some grains, and boiled it until it was pasty enough to no longer be recognized for what it was. It was the cheapest protein and fat available. Scotland was damn poor and this was a common staple at the time. Sheep have a lot less meat than cattle, so you use what is available.

I've had haggis in Scotland and in the States. Even heavily spiced you can tell how dodgy it was. In Scotland now it is kind of a joke - only the tourists eat it.
 
2013-01-24 09:25:07 PM
Bobak's in Chicago (Polish grocery/restaurant) used to sell lung retail and serve lung dishes in their buffet.

Damn that was an awesome buffet.
 
2013-01-24 09:26:05 PM

CygnusDarius: BlackMtnMan: I thought Scots ate peat.

I thought they ate oatmeal.


You have funny relatives. Mine all ate whiskey. Which explains the dead silence at reunions.
 
2013-01-24 09:27:38 PM

CygnusDarius: BlackMtnMan: I thought Scots ate peat.

I thought they ate oatmeal.


Easy mistake. They taste about the same.
 
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2013-01-24 09:28:15 PM

warm kitteh: Don't act all grossed out by something you have limited experience with! As pointed out, it is illegal to sell much of the organ meat in the U.S.: Not illegal to consume it.

My father raised my sister and I on the offal. It was a boon to our family! It's expensive to run a farm but my father had a small head of cattle he raised and butchered. He sold the street-legal meat at local farmer's markets and used the profit to subsidize the farm itself. The illegal meat became the protein and fat of our daily diets. We didn't know any different and the nutritional value of these organs paired with the vegetables we grew, provided us with all that we needed. It is rude to publicly eschew what other people call dinner.


It's horrible that anyone would eat offal, and it should be banned! Here, have some pink slime. It's good for you, the USDA says so!
 
2013-01-24 09:32:52 PM

Tillmaster: And the American brag about their freedom.
Pshaw!

I've tried American haggis. It isn't a patch on the real thing.



Hey man, not to threadjack (I know, I know), but those pics in your bio of you and what you were working on at the time are great.

I would love to try authentic haggis. I live just south of Dunedin, FL and I wonder if I threw a local a few bucks if I could acquire a taste.

/favorited
 
2013-01-24 09:39:03 PM

TheGreenMonkey: What's the problem with the lung?


I was internet-searching that issue, too. Apparently it's that the lungs have been contaminated with bacteria, lesions and waste so they are not sanitary enough to pass as foodstuffs.

Add that the stomach can contain a sheep version of mad cow disease and now importing traditional haggis has the double-whammy put on it.
 
2013-01-24 09:39:35 PM

warm kitteh: Don't act all grossed out by something you have limited experience with! As pointed out, it is illegal to sell much of the organ meat in the U.S.: Not illegal to consume it.

My father raised my sister and I on the offal. It was a boon to our family! It's expensive to run a farm but my father had a small head of cattle he raised and butchered. He sold the street-legal meat at local farmer's markets and used the profit to subsidize the farm itself. The illegal meat became the protein and fat of our daily diets. We didn't know any different and the nutritional value of these organs paired with the vegetables we grew, provided us with all that we needed. It is rude to publicly eschew what other people call dinner.


You make a good argument for eating people too.
 
2013-01-24 09:41:24 PM

jnelsoninjax: The irony is I just got a call from my boss today, and she told me that on Saturday we are going to be serving haggis to a group of Navy boys (I work on a navy base), I do not know if I will be able to try it, but I might just!


You have to try it, just to know. This is, of course, coming from someone who's never had it.
 
2013-01-24 09:41:49 PM

HumanBeingsSuck: I'd eat a lung before I'll ever taste intestines again.


THIS, not a fan of the whole GI tract in general except for casings, menudo, blech...

According to the article traditional andouille uses most of a pigs GI tract, and wikipedia backs that up. American andouille is my favorite sausage, not sure id want to try the traditional version, but anything is good if you spice and smoke it enough i guess 

/now i want sweatbreads
 
2013-01-24 09:43:21 PM

doglover: lockers: Why not file a law suet to get the ban reversed.

File a lawsuit? You've got to be kidney!


i would but i haven't the stomach for it
 
2013-01-24 09:45:48 PM

maltedmothball: doglover: lockers: Why not file a law suet to get the ban reversed.

File a lawsuit? You've got to be kidney!

i would but i haven't the stomach for it


You lily livered bastard.
 
2013-01-24 09:48:31 PM
Had the real stuff, had the American version......can't say I enjoyed either, but the authentic Haggis was much better.
 
2013-01-24 09:56:30 PM

jnelsoninjax: The irony is I just got a call from my boss today, and she told me that on Saturday we are going to be serving haggis to a group of Navy boys (I work on a navy base), I do not know if I will be able to try it, but I might just!


If you didn't know what it was, you'd eat the entire thing.
 
2013-01-24 10:03:37 PM
lung-free haggis

Oh yeah, you gotta have the lung. And I'm guessing a side dish of deep-fried lung is simply out of the question.
 
2013-01-24 10:12:57 PM

cretinbob:
Anyone know where I can get some?


Find an established merchant of British wares. In the historic shopping district in my town, there's a shop that sells British wares. They have cans of haggis that they import for sale. Every spring we have Tartan Day festivities (lots of ginger lasses in short kilts dancing) and the shop has samples of Haggis. Too bad it's $9 a can though. It's barely enough to feed my son and me. Good thing my wife and daughter hate it!

/I need to remember to pick some up tomorrow morning while I'm out, if they aren't sold out yet.
//Too bad my medicine will put me in a coma if I drink alcohol.
///I'll settle for an Irn Bru, I guess.
 
2013-01-24 10:16:30 PM

clivecusslerfan: cretinbob:
Anyone know where I can get some?

Find an established merchant of British wares. In the historic shopping district in my town, there's a shop that sells British wares.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-24 10:19:41 PM
I have always wanted to try haggis...

/must be something in this americans scottish ancestry...
 
2013-01-24 10:20:30 PM

clivecusslerfan: cretinbob:
Anyone know where I can get some?

Find an established merchant of British wares. In the historic shopping district in my town, there's a shop that sells British wares. They have cans of haggis that they import for sale. Every spring we have Tartan Day festivities (lots of ginger lasses in short kilts dancing) and the shop has samples of Haggis. Too bad it's $9 a can though. It's barely enough to feed my son and me. Good thing my wife and daughter hate it!

/I need to remember to pick some up tomorrow morning while I'm out, if they aren't sold out yet.
//Too bad my medicine will put me in a coma if I drink alcohol.
///I'll settle for an Irn Bru, I guess.


Love me some Irn Bru. Been to Scotland several times, and a cold Irn Bru and a Lion bar are always one of my first purchases.

/Had fresh homemade haggis on a farm in Angus. Pretty tasty, actually.
 
2013-01-24 10:39:11 PM
I have had authentic hagis. The good thing about it is that no one really reports this "criime," because they simply do not know that it is illegal to use certain bits. Sometimes ignorance is bliss, and delicious!
 
2013-01-24 10:47:47 PM

Abox: saeufer82: Abox: It's the importation of haggis that's banned right? Not like it's illegal to eat sheep lung.

Lamb lung is considered "inedible" by the USDA's Food Safety Inspection Service (the meat people), so it's illegal to use it in food that has to be inspected (i.e. anything you can buy at a store). There's nothing stopping you from buying lamb lung out the back door of a butcher shop or abattoir and making your own haggis, though it'd be illegal to sell.


Thanks Obama.


Twas Nixon, you dolt!
 
2013-01-24 11:14:58 PM

stanadamsii: tlchwi02: FTA: "A 2003 survey suggested that a third of US visitors to Scotland believed the haggis was an animal. Nearly a quarter thought they could catch one."

my countrymen are so dumb

You can catch one if it is thrown at you properly...


You have to be fast though; the left legs are longer than the right, so as to climb uphill more easily.
 
2013-01-24 11:30:06 PM

Tillmaster: And the American brag about their freedom.
Pshaw!

I've tried American haggis. It isn't a patch on the real thing.


Your argument suffers from the No True Haggis fallacy.
 
2013-01-24 11:37:31 PM
Meanwhile the Americans spent a hundred years blatantly funding Irish terrorism that killed thousands, yet they ban haggis.
 
2013-01-24 11:40:08 PM
Traditional chorizo is made with pork salivary glands, and is pure deliciousness.
 
2013-01-25 12:12:52 AM

Omahawg: is there no love for souse?


I love it but, my white friends from up here think it's gross.
 
2013-01-25 01:17:56 AM
Ok I didn't realize the lung part was both an ingredient, and also banned, but I had what I assume to be mostly authentic haggis at a Robert Burns dinner years ago when Lordfortuna's parents took us. It was, admittedly, prepared in a nice hotel, so I assume it was better than a lot of people would end up eating, but it tasted pretty good. Basically like sausage, only with sort of a thick oatmeal texture since it's not squeezed into tiny sausage casings first.

Seriously, it's not bad, at least try it if you have the chance. Just brace yourself for the odd texture.
 
2013-01-25 01:56:42 AM
There's nothing wrong with haggis. It tastes great, if prepared properly. It's not some awful stew of nasty ingredients. Of course, Americans would think that, though.
 
2013-01-25 03:09:54 AM
Went to a wedding in Scotland once, and haggis was served two ways: traditional and vegetarian. Both were foul, but it remains the only dish I've ever eaten where the vegetarian imitation was preferable to the original.
 
2013-01-25 03:20:46 AM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Your argument suffers from the No True Haggis fallacy.


I see what you did there.
 
2013-01-25 04:58:14 AM

madgonad: In Scotland now it is kind of a joke - only the tourists eat it.


Nope. Every fish and chip shop sells haggis suppers and every butcher sells their own version. Had it for dinner last night. Very tasty.
 
2013-01-25 06:33:50 AM
I regularly eat kidney, liver, black pudding (basically fried blood), and lambs heart (with a thyme a parsley stuffing - wonderful!).

Haggis is great on its own. Chicken stuffed with haggis is fantastic.

You guys really don't know what you're missing!
 
2013-01-25 06:37:10 AM
I treat it like a giant sausage
even like the canned stuff with a little fine tuning
 
2013-01-25 08:19:42 AM

ladyfortuna: Ok I didn't realize the lung part was both an ingredient, and also banned, but I had what I assume to be mostly authentic haggis at a Robert Burns dinner years ago when Lordfortuna's parents took us. It was, admittedly, prepared in a nice hotel, so I assume it was better than a lot of people would end up eating, but it tasted pretty good. Basically like sausage, only with sort of a thick oatmeal texture since it's not squeezed into tiny sausage casings first.

Seriously, it's not bad, at least try it if you have the chance. Just brace yourself for the odd texture.


without the lung it is like sausage, proper haggis with lung is nothing like sausage.

orbister: madgonad: In Scotland now it is kind of a joke - only the tourists eat it.

Nope. Every fish and chip shop sells haggis suppers and every butcher sells their own version. Had it for dinner last night. Very tasty.


Yep have haggis every other week or so and it is a favourite out the chippy too.

It take a few minutes in the microwave serve with bread and butter and loads of brown sauce.
 
2013-01-25 11:25:05 AM

cretinbob: The ban is for importing it, dumbmitter
Apparently it does come in a can
I saw it on Chopped.
Anyone know where I can get some?


There's a shop in Wilton CT which sells canned and frozen haggis. The canned stuff is probably authentic - the frozen stuff is made in the US.
 
2013-01-25 11:28:21 AM

madgonad: There are poor-people's food in every culture.

In Scotland they kept various non-meat/liver internal organs, jammed them into a stomach with some grains, and boiled it until it was pasty enough to no longer be recognized for what it was. It was the cheapest protein and fat available. Scotland was damn poor and this was a common staple at the time. Sheep have a lot less meat than cattle, so you use what is available.

I've had haggis in Scotland and in the States. Even heavily spiced you can tell how dodgy it was. In Scotland now it is kind of a joke - only the tourists eat it.


Rubbish. When I was at Glasgow University, haggis was regularly on the menu at the Student Refectory. It was a cheap, nourishing meal.
 
2013-01-25 11:33:33 AM

b0rg9: Tillmaster: And the American brag about their freedom.
Pshaw!

I've tried American haggis. It isn't a patch on the real thing.


Hey man, not to threadjack (I know, I know), but those pics in your bio of you and what you were working on at the time are great.

I would love to try authentic haggis. I live just south of Dunedin, FL and I wonder if I threw a local a few bucks if I could acquire a taste.

/favorited


Thanks. You might like to consider buying it online. I buy mine in CT, which is probably a bit far to travel.
These guys offer what they claim to be Scottish haggis. http://scottishhaggis.com/index.aspx
 
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