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2013-01-24 08:31:38 PM  
watch the teeth, baby

healthyeating.sfgate.com
 
2013-01-24 08:32:24 PM  
Good veggies are soooo expensive.
 
2013-01-24 08:33:15 PM  
I have a zucchini and a couple of roma tomatoes handy here if anyone's interested....
 
2013-01-24 08:35:04 PM  

SpdrJay: I have a zucchini and a couple of roma tomatoes handy here if anyone's interested....


I have a haricot verde and a couple of raisins.
 
2013-01-24 08:35:18 PM  
cdn2-b.examiner.com
 
2013-01-24 08:35:48 PM  
What kinda of Communism is this? I demand we deport the scientists involved and torch the University that gave them a degree.
 
2013-01-24 08:38:01 PM  
I tried eating 8 servings of broccoli per day once. I may have gotten happier, but everyone within a 10' radius around me became much less happy.
 
2013-01-24 08:39:51 PM  

EvilEgg: SpdrJay: I have a zucchini and a couple of roma tomatoes handy here if anyone's interested....

I have a haricot verde and a couple of raisins.


I have some purple drank. Purple is a type of vegetable.
 
2013-01-24 08:41:25 PM  
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2013-01-24 08:43:31 PM  
You could have had a V8.
 
2013-01-24 08:43:43 PM  
Oh noes, vegetables is yucky and scary and cool people only eat bacon candy beer doughnuts.
 
2013-01-24 08:47:54 PM  
www.wonkosworld.co.uk

Dear god that guy's psychic...
 
2013-01-24 08:49:20 PM  
This all goes back to the original tribes you came from . Everyone is different although I imagine there are significant portions are the population that came from similar tribes.

If you came from a meat-heavy tribe then that diet is healthier. The same goes for vegetable, grain heavy, or some tribes had a nice balance.

Evolution baby, how does it work?
 
2013-01-24 08:49:25 PM  
so why do (most) vegans always seem so angry?
 
2013-01-24 08:50:09 PM  
I love veggies!

/especially with butter or cheese sauce
//or tempura veggies
///the lefse recipe I use has potatoes, so that counts as a veggie as well. HA!
 
2013-01-24 08:50:27 PM  
I was easily eating 7 a day, maybe more, for 5ish months last year. Yay garden. Boo that all the vegetables I buy in the store now taste bland as hell and are costly to boot (fresh anyway) and I don't really enjoy them at all. Trying to make it up by eating lots of fruit but eh.

I really need to find someone to teach me canning next year. I know how to in theory but am terrified of f--king it up and poisoning myself.

/spring can't come fast enough
//gonna plant onion and shallot seeds this weekend
///yippee!
 
2013-01-24 08:50:59 PM  
Can bacon be reclassified as a vegetable?
 
2013-01-24 08:51:16 PM  

TheHappyCanadian: so why do (most) vegans always seem so angry?


you'd be pissed too if you looked that sickly and malnourished.
 
2013-01-24 08:51:26 PM  

BigLuca: I tried eating 8 servings of broccoli per day once. I may have gotten happier, but everyone within a 10' radius around me became much less happy.


My favorite lunch is tofu and broccoli sir fried and smothered in hot sauce. My coworkers probably hate me for it, but it's so freaking awesome I can't care.
 
2013-01-24 08:51:27 PM  
most vegetarians i meet are pretty awful people, so id hate to see the alternative if they're the happiest.
 
2013-01-24 08:51:28 PM  
I've found that well timed drug abuse is the key to happiness, YMMV.
 
2013-01-24 08:53:06 PM  
If you had said fruit, I'd have no problem with that.
 
2013-01-24 08:54:35 PM  
Thanks, I'll stick with my chronic alcoholism and ride the highs and lows.
 
2013-01-24 08:55:14 PM  
That doesn't sound like happiness...
 
2013-01-24 08:55:49 PM  
www.nysrighttolife.org

OK but you get to clean her up afterwards
 
2013-01-24 08:56:08 PM  

TheHappyCanadian: so why do (most) vegans always seem so angry?

anarchyinyourhead.com

 
2013-01-24 08:56:10 PM  

TheHappyCanadian: so why do (most) vegans always seem so angry?


They're like Christians. Most aren't but the angry minority are really f--king loud and grumpy. And if they're in college and just became vegan out of self righteousness they're probably grumpy because morningstar and bread with earth balance and tofu 24/7 out of laziness ain't gonna give you all your nutrients.

/not vegan or veggie
//just have had many friends who were who didn't judge what I ate
///the type I described above I'm familiar with but never befriended for some odd reason
 
2013-01-24 08:56:23 PM  

TheHappyCanadian: so why do (most) vegans always seem so angry?


They are angry because you gave your Sea Kitten a delicious sounding name, you monster.

/named mine "Dillycious"
//what else would you name a Salmon breed Sea Kitten?
 
2013-01-24 08:56:57 PM  
I you know how to properly cook vegetables, it shouldn't be a problem.

/Just smother the shiat outta everything with cheese and bacon
 
2013-01-24 09:01:03 PM  

vodka: This all goes back to the original tribes you came from . Everyone is different although I imagine there are significant portions are the population that came from similar tribes.
If you came from a meat-heavy tribe then that diet is healthier. The same goes for vegetable, grain heavy, or some tribes had a nice balance.
Evolution baby, how does it work?


Not like that.

Seriously, whoever thought that up is a crackpot.
 
2013-01-24 09:04:38 PM  
Veggies seven times a day? I'll have to poop like four times a day? Who do I send the bill to for lost productivity while I'm in the can?

On a positive note, my scores on the Fark weekly quiz will go up.
 
2013-01-24 09:04:53 PM  

BigLuca: I tried eating 8 servings of broccoli per day once. I may have gotten happier, but everyone within a 10' radius around me became much less happy.


That goes away. I can eat a pound of steamed broccoli with no stink.

Unfortunately to get variety in ftesh veggies would double my grocery bill.
 
2013-01-24 09:05:41 PM  

CygnusDarius: I you know how to properly cook vegetables, it shouldn't be a problem.

/Just smother the shiat outta everything with cheese and bacon


I still have a problem with brassicas. When I was a kid my mother would boil the crap out of them. Cauliflower, cabbage and BBrussels sprouts would smell awful and taste bitter. I think I might buy some Brussels sprouts this weekend and try to prepare them a different way
 
2013-01-24 09:06:24 PM  
That many wheelchairs has to be bad for the enamel.
 
2013-01-24 09:07:01 PM  

Smackledorfer: Unfortunately to get variety in ftesh veggies would double my grocery bill.


Fetish vegetables, huh?
 
2013-01-24 09:08:03 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: TheHappyCanadian: so why do (most) vegans always seem so angry?

you'd be pissed too if you looked that sickly and malnourished.


Most people don't understand no one else really gives a fark about what they eat or don't eat. People who won't shut up with "OMG I eat yummy yummy meat all day long kill all dem animals LOL I'm so hardcore and sassy y'all can't handle me!" are just as annoying as preachy ass vegans.
 
2013-01-24 09:08:07 PM  
Happier than I am after stake and wings? Not bloody likely.
 
2013-01-24 09:08:38 PM  

Smackledorfer: BigLuca: I tried eating 8 servings of broccoli per day once. I may have gotten happier, but everyone within a 10' radius around me became much less happy.

That goes away. I can eat a pound of steamed broccoli with no stink.

Unfortunately to get variety in ftesh veggies would double my grocery bill.


you're just used to it and the people around you are too nice to say anything about it. if you want to know if your farts still smell, go hang out at a middle school for a day.
 
2013-01-24 09:11:23 PM  

thisispete: Smackledorfer: Unfortunately to get variety in ftesh veggies would double my grocery bill.

Fetish vegetables, huh?


verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-24 09:11:51 PM  

Smackledorfer: BigLuca: I tried eating 8 servings of broccoli per day once. I may have gotten happier, but everyone within a 10' radius around me became much less happy.

That goes away. I can eat a pound of steamed broccoli with no stink.

Unfortunately to get variety in ftesh veggies would double my grocery bill.


Depending on the time of year, some veggies are better frozen or canned.  Peas for sure, and frozen spinach works better/cheaper anyway if I'm making something where I'd cook it down anyhow (spinach pie, feta-rice-spinach casserole, or whatever).
 
2013-01-24 09:13:09 PM  

vodka: This all goes back to the original tribes you came from . Everyone is different although I imagine there are significant portions are the population that came from similar tribes.

If you came from a meat-heavy tribe then that diet is healthier. The same goes for vegetable, grain heavy, or some tribes had a nice balance.

Evolution baby, how does it work?


i can live on pickled herring and cabbage?

hmmm....
 
2013-01-24 09:14:19 PM  
Beer is a vegetable. At least, it turns me into one.
 
2013-01-24 09:15:16 PM  
As an experiment in grad school, I ate as a vegetarian for 6 weeks jsut to see what the fuss was about. The first 7-10 days were hell for my bowels & stomach's "routines".

Then things settled down and I felt just as miserable as before.

An anecdote is not data, but I think the link between diet and mood is tenuous at best from my personal experience.
 
2013-01-24 09:16:12 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Smackledorfer: BigLuca: I tried eating 8 servings of broccoli per day once. I may have gotten happier, but everyone within a 10' radius around me became much less happy.

That goes away. I can eat a pound of steamed broccoli with no stink.

Unfortunately to get variety in ftesh veggies would double my grocery bill.

Depending on the time of year, some veggies are better frozen or canned.  Peas for sure, and frozen spinach works better/cheaper anyway if I'm making something where I'd cook it down anyhow (spinach pie, feta-rice-spinach casserole, or whatever).


It's really a case of something's better than nothing. Vegetables are frozen soon after harvest, so depending on how local your food is, they will probably be fresher than the stuff that travels chilled, but isn't frozen. Although I admit, frozen corn on the cob is nowhere near as good as its non-frozen counterpart.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-01-24 09:19:12 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: [www.nysrighttolife.org image 430x312]

OK but you get to clean her up afterwards


LOL. I laffed.

/aisle seat please! oi, peanuts!
 
2013-01-24 09:19:12 PM  

thisispete: CygnusDarius: I you know how to properly cook vegetables, it shouldn't be a problem.

/Just smother the shiat outta everything with cheese and bacon

I still have a problem with brassicas. When I was a kid my mother would boil the crap out of them. Cauliflower, cabbage and BBrussels sprouts would smell awful and taste bitter. I think I might buy some Brussels sprouts this weekend and try to prepare them a different way


I once tried some sauteed cauliflower with some butter and garlic, and it was pretty good.
 
2013-01-24 09:25:53 PM  
I tried this once, but the floor orderly escorted me out before I got all 7 servings.
 
2013-01-24 09:26:24 PM  

FunkOut: The_Original_Roxtar: TheHappyCanadian: so why do (most) vegans always seem so angry?

you'd be pissed too if you looked that sickly and malnourished.

Most people don't understand no one else really gives a fark about what they eat or don't eat. People who won't shut up with "OMG I eat yummy yummy meat all day long kill all dem animals LOL I'm so hardcore and sassy y'all can't handle me!" are just as annoying as preachy ass vegans.


We meat eaters only do that when the vegans won't shut the hell up. Normally, we don't bother telling anyone what we're eating unless it's something extra special.
 
2013-01-24 09:31:05 PM  

Gortex: As an experiment in grad school, I ate as a vegetarian for 6 weeks jsut to see what the fuss was about. The first 7-10 days were hell for my bowels & stomach's "routines".

Then things settled down and I felt just as miserable as before.

An anecdote is not data, but I think the link between diet and mood is tenuous at best from my personal experience.


seriously, I did the exact same thing for a week, mostly boiled veggies and kidney beans. on the ninth day my appendix ruptured and I almost died.
 
2013-01-24 09:32:22 PM  
This just in: People are happiest when they don't have to strain while taking a dump.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-01-24 09:33:50 PM  
Wait! Isn't vodka made by the distillation of fermented substances such as grains and potatoes?
I can do this!
 
2013-01-24 09:34:14 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-24 09:40:02 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: Smackledorfer: BigLuca: I tried eating 8 servings of broccoli per day once. I may have gotten happier, but everyone within a 10' radius around me became much less happy.

That goes away. I can eat a pound of steamed broccoli with no stink.

Unfortunately to get variety in ftesh veggies would double my grocery bill.

you're just used to it and the people around you are too nice to say anything about it. if you want to know if your farts still smell, go hang out at a middle school for a day.


I don't even get much in the way of farts at all.

Will you now call me a liar or say I am too stupid to know if I fart?
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-01-24 09:45:46 PM  

Smackledorfer: The_Original_Roxtar: Smackledorfer: BigLuca: I tried eating 8 servings of broccoli per day once. I may have gotten happier, but everyone within a 10' radius around me became much less happy.

That goes away. I can eat a pound of steamed broccoli with no stink.

Unfortunately to get variety in ftesh veggies would double my grocery bill.

you're just used to it and the people around you are too nice to say anything about it. if you want to know if your farts still smell, go hang out at a middle school for a day.

I don't even get much in the way of farts at all.

Will you now call me a liar or say I am too stupid to know if I fart?


3.bp.blogspot.com

Oh COME ON, Marlee, I know you can't hear them but you gotta FEEL those things coming out!
 
2013-01-24 09:47:11 PM  
gourmetgardens.com

Challenge accepted
 
2013-01-24 09:49:42 PM  

Cyno01: [upload.wikimedia.org image 800x600]


This.
 
2013-01-24 09:49:52 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: I was easily eating 7 a day, maybe more, for 5ish months last year. Yay garden. Boo that all the vegetables I buy in the store now taste bland as hell and are costly to boot (fresh anyway) and I don't really enjoy them at all. Trying to make it up by eating lots of fruit but eh.

I really need to find someone to teach me canning next year. I know how to in theory but am terrified of f--king it up and poisoning myself.

/spring can't come fast enough
//gonna plant onion and shallot seeds this weekend
///yippee!


I can just about everything. EIP with questions.
 
2013-01-24 09:51:41 PM  
Call any vegetable
And the chances are good
That the vegetable will respond to you.

/Rutabaga
 
2013-01-24 09:52:29 PM  

soopey: Veggies seven times a day? I'll have to poop like four times a day? Who do I send the bill to for lost productivity while I'm in the can?

On a positive note, my scores on the Fark weekly quiz will go up.


small amounts, modest quantities. don't eat until you're full, just eat comfortably. years ago i followed a fruit, vegetable and water diet for a while. i became so thin i looked like i was dying of a social disease. i became borderline anemic and my doctor was very angry with me. but god, I was thin, and clothes just draped off my 6'-3" frame. my face took on a skeletal appearance and my adam's apple looked like it was protruding from my neck. it was awesome.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-01-24 09:56:39 PM  

KrispyKritter: soopey: Veggies seven times a day? I'll have to poop like four times a day? Who do I send the bill to for lost productivity while I'm in the can?

On a positive note, my scores on the Fark weekly quiz will go up.

small amounts, modest quantities. don't eat until you're full, just eat comfortably. years ago i followed a fruit, vegetable and water diet for a while. i became so thin i looked like i was dying of a social disease. i became borderline anemic and my doctor was very angry with me. but god, I was thin, and clothes just draped off my 6'-3" frame. my face took on a skeletal appearance and my adam's apple looked like it was protruding from my neck. it was awesome.


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-24 09:57:13 PM  
It's true, though. Back when I lived on processed junk and two hamburgers a day, I craved nothing more than the sweet release of death.

Now that I'm a vegetarian, I find that all it takes to make me happy is the sweet release of other people's death. I'm not going to lie, it's been a real game-changer.
 
2013-01-24 10:00:21 PM  

semiotix: It's true, though. Back when I lived on processed junk and two hamburgers a day, I craved nothing more than the sweet release of death.

Now that I'm a vegetarian, I find that all it takes to make me happy is the sweet release of other people's death. I'm not going to lie, it's been a real game-changer.


I've found that just taking a more balanced approach to one's diet is simple enough. You can be vegan/vegetarian and still be fat. Not eating processed or fast foods, cutting out soda, eating some fruit and veggies, not eating too much, and a little exercise can go a long way.

I've already gone from 215 to about 175 by doing this.
 
2013-01-24 10:00:43 PM  

thisispete: CygnusDarius: I you know how to properly cook vegetables, it shouldn't be a problem.

/Just smother the shiat outta everything with cheese and bacon

I still have a problem with brassicas. When I was a kid my mother would boil the crap out of them. Cauliflower, cabbage and BBrussels sprouts would smell awful and taste bitter. I think I might buy some Brussels sprouts this weekend and try to prepare them a different way


Roll in a little bit of olive oil and salt then roast at 400 degrees for 20 minutes or until crispy on the outside, rollem around at the 10 minute mark to even out crispies.

Also works well for garbonzo beans. Or most vegetables. Kale makes great chips in about 5-10 minutes.
 
2013-01-24 10:02:48 PM  

OgreMagi: FunkOut: The_Original_Roxtar: TheHappyCanadian: so why do (most) vegans always seem so angry?

you'd be pissed too if you looked that sickly and malnourished.

Most people don't understand no one else really gives a fark about what they eat or don't eat. People who won't shut up with "OMG I eat yummy yummy meat all day long kill all dem animals LOL I'm so hardcore and sassy y'all can't handle me!" are just as annoying as preachy ass vegans.

We meat eaters only do that when the vegans won't shut the hell up. Normally, we don't bother telling anyone what we're eating unless it's something extra special.


Except that there are no vegans in this thread and yet how many are going on about the meat love?

/omnivore that eats lots of vegetables.
 
2013-01-24 10:06:44 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: I was easily eating 7 a day, maybe more, for 5ish months last year. Yay garden. Boo that all the vegetables I buy in the store now taste bland as hell and are costly to boot (fresh anyway) and I don't really enjoy them at all. Trying to make it up by eating lots of fruit but eh.

I really need to find someone to teach me canning next year. I know how to in theory but am terrified of f--king it up and poisoning myself.

/spring can't come fast enough
//gonna plant onion and shallot seeds this weekend
///yippee!

http://groworganic.com/organic-gardening/videos/canning-green-beans  Thats one video of a few and they also sell books .
 
2013-01-24 10:10:26 PM  

gja: Wait! Isn't vodka made by the distillation of fermented substances such as grains and potatoes?
I can do this!


Uh, sorry but those don't count as servings of vegetables, neither does corn.

Although if you sprout the grains then yes.
 
2013-01-24 10:19:25 PM  
Nice try, Morrissey. First you tried to make bacon more expensive, and now this. I'm onto you and all your vegan / vegetarian friends, you pretentious git.
 
2013-01-24 10:20:04 PM  

OgreMagi: FunkOut: The_Original_Roxtar: TheHappyCanadian: so why do (most) vegans always seem so angry?

you'd be pissed too if you looked that sickly and malnourished.

Most people don't understand no one else really gives a fark about what they eat or don't eat. People who won't shut up with "OMG I eat yummy yummy meat all day long kill all dem animals LOL I'm so hardcore and sassy y'all can't handle me!" are just as annoying as preachy ass vegans.

We meat eaters only do that when the vegans won't shut the hell up. Normally, we don't bother telling anyone what we're eating unless it's something extra special.


Actually, this happens pretty frequently without vegans around. Most people are omnivores anyway. If someone actually only ate meat, I actually be impressed. Someone going "Argh me carnivore meat meat meat!" and then proceeds to eat baked potatoes, roasted corn, and apple pie isn't really all that interesting. They're eating the same as the vast majority.
 
2013-01-24 10:29:41 PM  

Shadowtag: [gourmetgardens.com image 243x355]

Challenge accepted


Ooohhh, is that good? I love asparagus, never tried it pickled though.
 
2013-01-24 10:30:23 PM  

alienated: StreetlightInTheGhetto: I was easily eating 7 a day, maybe more, for 5ish months last year. Yay garden. Boo that all the vegetables I buy in the store now taste bland as hell and are costly to boot (fresh anyway) and I don't really enjoy them at all. Trying to make it up by eating lots of fruit but eh.

I really need to find someone to teach me canning next year. I know how to in theory but am terrified of f--king it up and poisoning myself.

/spring can't come fast enough
//gonna plant onion and shallot seeds this weekend
///yippee!
http://groworganic.com/organic-gardening/videos/canning-green-beans  Thats one video of a few and they also sell books .


I have books.  I just want someone in the kitchen with me the first time I attempt it who knows what they're doing so I can see first-hand.  Paranoid that I'll die of botulism from canning tomatoes incorrectly or worse lose a good amount of my harvest (plus the time spent growing and canning it all).  Like, I know I need an "airtight seal", but how can I actually tell it's completely airtight, etc.  Like I said, I know it's paranoia, but still.

http://www.tomatocasual.com/2008/02/22/botulism-real-threat-in-canni ng -tomatoes/

/wish my grandma was still around :(
 
2013-01-24 10:35:19 PM  
Came for the Terry Shiavo picture, leaving satisfied.
 
2013-01-24 10:41:16 PM  
May, August, and October I did a juice fast for 30 days each.  Veggie and Fruit juices that I make at home.  I lost 100 pounds by the end of the last fast.  The intake of micronutrients was more in one day, than I could have consumed in a week of chewing all that plant matter.   Example recipe: JUICE 4 Tomatoes, 1 Cucumber, 2 Zucchini, 3 Carrots, 2 celery, hand full of Kale, some basil leaves, Oregano, ginger, Garlic, 1 apple, 1/2 jalapeno, some spinach leaves, and a bell pepper.  Salt and pepper to taste.  I carried 72 ounces of juice with me all day, sipped it all day.  Was never hungry.  Now, I could never chew at that plant matter in a day.  No way.  But drinking was great.  Before the fast: 261 pounds, borderline diabetic, borderline hypertension, just entering the high blood pressure range, and the cholesterol was about to go bad.  After the second fast, all levels way in the normal ranges.  All of them, after 4 months.
It reset something in me.
No more sugar cravings.
Skin started glowing.
A couple old aches stopped.
And this chronic hives on my arms and legs vanished after 3 years.
Can't stand the smell of fried food.
Very aware of my intake.
A lot less meat.  Using at a flavor/texture in a meal, and not the main star.
Lost interest in snacking.
I don't think of food all day long.
I loved to cook before.  Now I'm a better cook.
The switch to a juiced vegan routine changed my life.  I juice very regularly, and my meals are mainly plant matter now.

/CSS
//Pineapple Crack Juice: 1 Pineapple, 1 Cucumber, some sprigs of Cilantro, 1 Apple, 1/2 lime, Ginger.
 
2013-01-24 10:50:27 PM  
It didn't say to ONLY eat fruits & veggies you silly people. It said to eat up to seven servings of them. It didn't say you couldn't eat anything else along with them. Go ahead and have your bacon & eggs and zucchini and tomato and make an omelet. Have a glass of OJ along with it: Ta-da! three servings of fruits & veggies right there. Now admittedly, you might not have room for a lot of crap if you're eating that much other stuff....but that's the point.
 
2013-01-24 10:56:28 PM  

TheHappyCanadian: so why do (most) vegans always seem so angry?


They don't have enough fat in their diet, or other vital nutrients.

/cut almost all fat out of my diet once
//almost went psychotic in three days
///this and coke explains batshiat supermodels
 
2013-01-24 11:07:10 PM  
It's because it makes you shiat better. The better your shiats, the better your mood. This is a basic human truth.
 
2013-01-24 11:08:50 PM  
Why juice instead of eating the fruits/veggies?
 
2013-01-24 11:11:42 PM  

Shadowtag: [gourmetgardens.com image 243x355]

Challenge accepted


Mmmmm Asparagus. The best way I've found to prepare it is to...

1. Fry some bacon until it is almost cooked, allow to cool.
2. Wrap said bacon around 2-3 stalk
3. Throw on the grill for a couple of minutes per side
4. Eat

The key is making sure the bacon is almost completely cooked because the Asparagus will cook very quickly on the grill.
 
2013-01-24 11:13:39 PM  

santadog:

//Pineapple Crack Juice: 1 Pineapple, 1 Cucumber, some sprigs of Cilantro, 1 Apple, 1/2 lime, Ginger.


You left out the vodka.
 
2013-01-24 11:14:27 PM  

Too_many_Brians: thisispete: CygnusDarius: I you know how to properly cook vegetables, it shouldn't be a problem.

/Just smother the shiat outta everything with cheese and bacon

I still have a problem with brassicas. When I was a kid my mother would boil the crap out of them. Cauliflower, cabbage and BBrussels sprouts would smell awful and taste bitter. I think I might buy some Brussels sprouts this weekend and try to prepare them a different way

Roll in a little bit of olive oil and salt then roast at 400 degrees for 20 minutes or until crispy on the outside, rollem around at the 10 minute mark to even out crispies.

Also works well for garbonzo beans. Or most vegetables. Kale makes great chips in about 5-10 minutes.


Don't forget the mayonnaise! (Hellmans's)
 
2013-01-24 11:21:01 PM  

doglover: Good veggies are soooo expensive.


If by expensive you mean way cheaper than junk food, yeah. I munch on carrots at work. 6 ounces of pre-cut organic baby carrots are about 60 cents ($1.80 for an 18 ounce bag). Cheaper than the $1.00 for a 0.85 ounce candy bar from the snack machine.
 
2013-01-24 11:23:33 PM  

TheHappyCanadian: so why do (most) vegans always seem so angry?


Those are the atheist vegans. And they aren't unhappy and bitter about being vegan.
 
2013-01-24 11:30:11 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: doglover: Good veggies are soooo expensive.

If by expensive you mean way cheaper than junk food, yeah. I munch on carrots at work. 6 ounces of pre-cut organic baby carrots are about 60 cents ($1.80 for an 18 ounce bag). Cheaper than the $1.00 for a 0.85 ounce candy bar from the snack machine.


1. You picked one of the cheapest veggies. Try a fresh non-root veggie.


2. Since people still need x calories a day to sustain them, $/calorie is the comparison one should be using.
 
2013-01-24 11:33:56 PM  

Smackledorfer: 1. You picked one of the cheapest veggies. Try a fresh non-root veggie.


I picked them because they are crunchy, tasty, convenient bite sized, and non-messy, requiring no utensils.


Smackledorfer: 2. Since people still need x calories a day to sustain them, $/calorie is the comparison one should be using.


Yep because the average American is several lacking in calories. MOAR CALORIES!!! *facepalm*
 
2013-01-24 11:36:23 PM  
 
2013-01-24 11:39:08 PM  

FunkOut: The_Original_Roxtar: TheHappyCanadian: so why do (most) vegans always seem so angry?

you'd be pissed too if you looked that sickly and malnourished.

Most people don't understand no one else really gives a fark about what they eat or don't eat. People who won't shut up with "OMG I eat yummy yummy meat all day long kill all dem animals LOL I'm so hardcore and sassy y'all can't handle me!" are just as annoying as preachy ass vegans.


This^
 
2013-01-24 11:42:59 PM  
I like meat. I like veggies. I like food. I find the easiest rule of thumb is to maximize the number of species on my plate at any given time. That way I'm not neglecting anyone's feelings.
 
2013-01-24 11:47:56 PM  

Dented Ford: santadog:

//Pineapple Crack Juice: 1 Pineapple, 1 Cucumber, some sprigs of Cilantro, 1 Apple, 1/2 lime, Ginger.

You left out the vodka.


To say nothing of the crack. The crack is what gives it its characteristic crack-like qualities!

/in fact, forget the pineapple, cucumber, cilantro, apple, lime and ginger!
 
2013-01-24 11:49:36 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: Smackledorfer: 1. You picked one of the cheapest veggies. Try a fresh non-root veggie.

I picked them because they are crunchy, tasty, convenient bite sized, and non-messy, requiring no utensils.


Smackledorfer: 2. Since people still need x calories a day to sustain them, $/calorie is the comparison one should be using.

Yep because the average American is several lacking in calories. MOAR CALORIES!!! *facepalm*


That is a lazy dodge.
 
2013-01-24 11:50:50 PM  

Dented Ford: santadog:

//Pineapple Crack Juice: 1 Pineapple, 1 Cucumber, some sprigs of Cilantro, 1 Apple, 1/2 lime, Ginger.

You left out the vodka.


You are not the first to state that fact when I give the recipe.
 
2013-01-24 11:53:58 PM  

Too_many_Brians: Except that there are no vegans in this thread and yet how many are going on about the meat love?

/omnivore that eats lots of vegetables.


I find these types of threads hilarious because I love hearing how unhealthy I must look for being a vegetarian. I usually just make a fart joke about tofu and broccoli (which is really one of my favorite meals) then watch other people biatch about how people who don't eat meat suck.

It's become so predictable, but it's like the gun threads or watching the tide roll in where you know exactly what's going to happen, so if you have nothing stupid to say why bother saying anything at all?

/if you want a steak or some chicken i'll grill it for you, and i've been told i'm pretty good at it
//i just don't eat it
///more for you
 
2013-01-24 11:54:59 PM  

Smackledorfer: That is a lazy dodge.


I always find it weird when people get upset at healthier, and less expensive, eating habits. It's like getting upset that someone wants to get vaccinated against the flu. Anti-vaxxers are ignorant.
 
2013-01-25 12:03:34 AM  

Smackledorfer: Why juice instead of eating the fruits/veggies?


1. I hate veggies.  I was brought up on very pale plates of food.
2. By extracting the juice from the fiber, your digestion takes a bit of a break because the juice is so quickly absorbed.  The energy you usually burn up digesting is then available to do other things.
3. A super punch of nutrients helps heal your body.  Like I said, all my borderline bad levels were all well within normal range after the 2nd Fast. And within 4 months.
4. I don't know if that switch, or "thing" inside me that killed all the bad cravings would have happened unless I brought my nutritional intake down to what I consider to be, a very pure level.
 
2013-01-25 12:09:17 AM  

santadog: 1. I hate veggies.  I was brought up on very pale plates of food.
2. By extracting the juice from the fiber, your digestion takes a bit of a break because the juice is so quickly absorbed.  The energy you usually burn up digesting is then available to do other things.
3. A super punch of nutrients helps heal your body.  Like I said, all my borderline bad levels were all well within normal range after the 2nd Fast. And within 4 months.
4. I don't know if that switch, or "thing" inside me that killed all the bad cravings would have happened unless I brought my nutritional intake down to what I consider to be, a very pure level.


I managed to give up soda pop easily enough. Replacing it with beer might not have been the best move.
 
2013-01-25 12:11:13 AM  
God dammit!
 
2013-01-25 12:13:41 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: Smackledorfer: That is a lazy dodge.

I always find it weird when people get upset at healthier, and less expensive, eating habits. It's like getting upset that someone wants to get vaccinated against the flu. Anti-vaxxers are ignorant.


Are you just talking to clouds here or are you saying I am anti-vegetable?

I ate 1500 calories today. 100 of it was fresh broccoli which cost 3.50 iirc. If the rest of my food cost that much it would cost me like fifty bucks a day to live.

Now, various veggies prices vary by season (look at apples this year!) but they also can surpise you and go bad before you eat. I shop every week but still lose some, and who knows whether my idiot roommates will mooch them or skip.

Root veggies are cheap and last forever. The rest increase the cost of your diet, period. Mind you I consider it worth it, but facts are facts.
 
2013-01-25 12:14:59 AM  

Gyrfalcon: It didn't say to ONLY eat fruits & veggies you silly people. It said to eat up to seven servings of them. It didn't say you couldn't eat anything else along with them. Go ahead and have your bacon & eggs and zucchini and tomato and make an omelet. Have a glass of OJ along with it: Ta-da! three servings of fruits & veggies right there. Now admittedly, you might not have room for a lot of crap if you're eating that much other stuff....but that's the point.


Cool. I'll have mine in pie form.

img.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-25 12:15:32 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: alienated: StreetlightInTheGhetto: I was easily eating 7 a day, maybe more, for 5ish months last year. Yay garden. Boo that all the vegetables I buy in the store now taste bland as hell and are costly to boot (fresh anyway) and I don't really enjoy them at all. Trying to make it up by eating lots of fruit but eh.

I really need to find someone to teach me canning next year. I know how to in theory but am terrified of f--king it up and poisoning myself.

/spring can't come fast enough
//gonna plant onion and shallot seeds this weekend
///yippee!
http://groworganic.com/organic-gardening/videos/canning-green-beans  Thats one video of a few and they also sell books .

I have books.  I just want someone in the kitchen with me the first time I attempt it who knows what they're doing so I can see first-hand.  Paranoid that I'll die of botulism from canning tomatoes incorrectly or worse lose a good amount of my harvest (plus the time spent growing and canning it all).  Like, I know I need an "airtight seal", but how can I actually tell it's completely airtight, etc.  Like I said, I know it's paranoia, but still.

http://www.tomatocasual.com/2008/02/22/botulism-real-threat-in-canni ng -tomatoes/

/wish my grandma was still around :(


Cause when it cools, the lid will pop inward. If it doesn't pop inward, it didn't properly seal. If it pops inward, it's properly sealed. You can identify if it popped inward both audibly and from visual recognition.
 
2013-01-25 12:20:46 AM  

santadog: May, August, and October I did a juice fast for 30 days each.  Veggie and Fruit juices that I make at home.  I lost 100 pounds by the end of the last fast. ...Before the fast: 261 pounds


You lost 100 pounds and 40% of your weight in six months?

Please tell me I'm missing something here, or miscalculating, or something. A pound every other day is stretching the limits of what's metabolically possible for an extended period of time, and most doctors wouldn't want your weight falling that fast even if you weighed 561 pounds at the start. Funky and lethal things can happen in metabolic free-fall even if you've got fat left to burn and all the right nutrients pumping through your body.
 
2013-01-25 12:22:46 AM  
I just had two McDoubles and the Cheddar Onion thing. $3.25 and 1230 kcal. farking yes I love this country
 
2013-01-25 12:26:57 AM  

Smackledorfer: The rest increase the cost of your diet, period.


Not if you replace an unhealthy food with a serving of vegetables of similar cost. I know young guys at work who drink mountain dew all day, (then constantly complain about being tired, grumpy and out of energy in the afternoon, imagine that). Just replace that 2 dollars worth of processed HFCS (or that 6$ pack of smokes, or that bag of cheetos) with 2 dollars in vegetables. No one is saying you have to go to whole foods and spend $20 a day on veggies. That is a strawman is the silliest order. And yes, my very filling vegetarian meals (not vegan, 'cause I like cheddar cheese) cost about 1/4 of a big mac.  Facts are facts.
 
2013-01-25 12:40:19 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: Smackledorfer: The rest increase the cost of your diet, period.

Not if you replace an unhealthy food with a serving of vegetables of similar cost. I know young guys at work who drink mountain dew all day, (then constantly complain about being tired, grumpy and out of energy in the afternoon, imagine that). Just replace that 2 dollars worth of processed HFCS (or that 6$ pack of smokes, or that bag of cheetos) with 2 dollars in vegetables. No one is saying you have to go to whole foods and spend $20 a day on veggies. That is a strawman is the silliest order. And yes, my very filling vegetarian meals (not vegan, 'cause I like cheddar cheese) cost about 1/4 of a big mac.  Facts are facts.


You accuse me of a straw man by using an example that I never said? Wow.

I forgot why I had you marked as "dishonest". Now I see.
 
2013-01-25 12:42:01 AM  

Smackledorfer: I forgot why I had you marked as "dishonest". Now I see.


Because you get frustrated when confronted by a truth you don't like.
 
2013-01-25 12:44:30 AM  
rubars.com
 
2013-01-25 01:11:34 AM  
Lol, anyway, for those with common sense - Don't listen to people who will passionately try to convince you that you shouldn't eat healthier. (And some people will.) No one is saying you have to spend hundreds on "in season" veggies. That is an easily recognizable strawman. Just add a 30 cent banana or 30 cents of sweet baby carrots to your daily routine - maybe in place of one soda or snack, for example. They are sweet and satisfying, filling, and cheaper than a candy bar or bag of cheetos in the afternoon. And it is surprising how quickly you begin to enjoy not feeling like crap most of the day. Maybe after a while you decide to add another whole 30 cents(!!!) of fruits and veggies to your daily diet....
 
2013-01-25 01:40:04 AM  

thisispete: I think I might buy some Brussels sprouts this weekend and try to prepare them a different way


Here's my recipe:

Take the Brussels sprouts out of the fridge and let them warm to room temperature. That way, they'll grind up in the garbage disposal easier. Then order a pizza.
 
2013-01-25 03:39:46 AM  
As a  Factor V Leiden disorder victim I have mixed feeling about this.  I love stuffing my face with veggies, but there's often long stretches of time when I'm just not allowed.  Not being allowed for six months at a time is enough to cause depression in itself.
 
2013-01-25 08:39:12 AM  
Veggies are the superior. Fruit is just sugar and acid, nature's candy. Favor the veggies they keep you full. Broccoli is pretty cheap, .99 to 1.79 a pound.
 
2013-01-25 09:21:10 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: alienated: StreetlightInTheGhetto: I was easily eating 7 a day, maybe more, for 5ish months last year. Yay garden. Boo that all the vegetables I buy in the store now taste bland as hell and are costly to boot (fresh anyway) and I don't really enjoy them at all. Trying to make it up by eating lots of fruit but eh.

I really need to find someone to teach me canning next year. I know how to in theory but am terrified of f--king it up and poisoning myself.

/spring can't come fast enough
//gonna plant onion and shallot seeds this weekend
///yippee!
http://groworganic.com/organic-gardening/videos/canning-green-beans  Thats one video of a few and they also sell books .

I have books.  I just want someone in the kitchen with me the first time I attempt it who knows what they're doing so I can see first-hand.  Paranoid that I'll die of botulism from canning tomatoes incorrectly or worse lose a good amount of my harvest (plus the time spent growing and canning it all).  Like, I know I need an "airtight seal", but how can I actually tell it's completely airtight, etc.  Like I said, I know it's paranoia, but still.

http://www.tomatocasual.com/2008/02/22/botulism-real-threat-in-canni ng -tomatoes/

/wish my grandma was still around :(


If you are willing to make a compromise and make salsa to can instead of plain peeled tomatoes, you should be good to go with no worries. That is what I do with my excess garden tomatoes and peppers. The vinegar in the mix provides enough acidity to twart any botulism. That will get you some practical experience with the canning process. Move on to the peeled tomatoes after you've got a few batches under your belt. I'm going to try some canning some peeled tomatoes for the first time this summer.
 
2013-01-25 10:14:47 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: Lol, anyway, for those with common sense - Don't listen to people who will passionately try to convince you that you shouldn't eat healthier. (And some people will.) No one is saying you have to spend hundreds on "in season" veggies. That is an easily recognizable strawman. Just add a 30 cent banana or 30 cents of sweet baby carrots to your daily routine - maybe in place of one soda or snack, for example. They are sweet and satisfying, filling, and cheaper than a candy bar or bag of cheetos in the afternoon. And it is surprising how quickly you begin to enjoy not feeling like crap most of the day. Maybe after a while you decide to add another whole 30 cents(!!!) of fruits and veggies to your daily diet....


In Florida, 30 cents of banana is half a pound! That's a whole lotta smoothies!

/tasty tasty smoothies
 
2013-01-25 10:25:10 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: Smackledorfer: 1. You picked one of the cheapest veggies. Try a fresh non-root veggie.

I picked them because they are crunchy, tasty, convenient bite sized, and non-messy, requiring no utensils.


Smackledorfer: 2. Since people still need x calories a day to sustain them, $/calorie is the comparison one should be using.

Yep because the average American is several lacking in calories. MOAR CALORIES!!! *facepalm*


Those goal posts look heavy. Do you need help moving them?
 
2013-01-25 11:05:37 AM  

Too_many_Brians: thisispete: I still have a problem with brassicas. When I was a kid my mother would boil the crap out of them. Cauliflower, cabbage and BBrussels sprouts would smell awful and taste bitter. I think I might buy some Brussels sprouts this weekend and try to prepare them a different way

Roll in a little bit of olive oil and salt then roast at 400 degrees for 20 minutes or until crispy on the outside, rollem around at the 10 minute mark to even out crispies.

Also works well for garbonzo beans. Or most vegetables. Kale makes great chips in about 5-10 minutes.


This. Boiling most vegetables is a pretty surefire way to get a gross end product, unless you're making mashed potatoes. Roasting as described above usually has much better results. Using this same technique (olive oil + salt) is how we make brussel sprouts, broccoli, cauliflower, asparagus, carrots, potatoes, sweet potatoes (1/2" cubes), and probably some others I'm forgetting. Better on the stovetop are the leafy vegetables (spinach and kale, for example, unless as said you're making chips), but those get sauteed with some oil, onion, and spices. OTOH, we never do cabbage so I'm clueless how to do it, but I would lean more towards steaming than boiling, unless the recipe really called for it.
 
2013-01-25 01:22:23 PM  

Carousel Beast: Those goal posts look heavy. Do you need help moving them?


When all someone wants to do is kick refuted, poorly constructed strawmen through the goal, I don't think it matters.
 
2013-01-25 01:22:33 PM  

pxlboy: I've found that just taking a more balanced approach to one's diet is simple enough. You can be vegan/vegetarian and still be fat. Not eating processed or fast foods, cutting out soda, eating some fruit and veggies, not eating too much, and a little exercise can go a long way.

I've already gone from 215 to about 175 by doing this.


*Nods in agreement*

As an added bonus it stopped being a chore after about the first month for me. I actually crave healthy foods now when I feel like snacking.
 
2013-01-25 01:47:25 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: Carousel Beast: Those goal posts look heavy. Do you need help moving them?

When all someone wants to do is kick refuted, poorly constructed strawmen through the goal, I don't think it matters.


Pick any level of calories that you think is the right one. Calculate the cost in dollars per calorie of every part of your meal. I guarantee you fresh produce is likely to be near the top (excepting root vegetables as I said).

Do you disagree with that claim?

Link For your reference since you keep using that word and obviously don't know what it means.
 
2013-01-25 02:21:02 PM  

Smackledorfer: Pick any level of calories that you think is the right one. Calculate the cost in dollars per calorie of every part of your meal. I guarantee you fresh produce is likely to be near the top (excepting root vegetables as I said).

Do you disagree with that claim?


Beans are not a root vegetable, are extremely cheap (sorry bout that) and make a great healthy low fat, high calorie, very filling meal. I make awesome veggie jalapeno burritos for lunch many days, for ultra cheap. Look, I already eat this way. I already know for as fact I am spending much less money on food than when i ate junk.

My problem with your argument is that you keep insisting on restricting healthy choices to only expensive ones. Your argument goes something like this.

me: car ownership doesn't have to be expensive
you: but you're only picking reasonably priced cars, that's not fair! You should pick a mercedes s-class turbo to do the comparison.
me: No. That's a strawman.
 
2013-01-25 02:31:47 PM  

Smackledorfer: For your reference since you keep using that word and obviously don't know what it means.


BTW - Yes, I know what it means, and your argument IS a strawman. When I mention carrots and you reply "but look over here at this other vegetable that is expensive." You are using that other vegetable (that no one mentioned) as a strawman, I didn't mention it, and it had nothing to to with snacking on baby carrots.
 
2013-01-25 02:56:39 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: Smackledorfer: For your reference since you keep using that word and obviously don't know what it means.

BTW - Yes, I know what it means, and your argument IS a strawman. When I mention carrots and you reply "but look over here at this other vegetable that is expensive." You are using that other vegetable (that no one mentioned) as a strawman, I didn't mention it, and it had nothing to to with snacking on baby carrots.


Ahh, I see the problem. Your entire argument is based solely on cherry-picking bullshiat, therefore any statements that are actually relevant to the discussion at hand appear as strawman. So you aren't wrong, you are just specific to the point of irrelevance. Congrats I guess. My mistake was assuming you thought you had something to contribute to the discussion. It won't happen again.
 
2013-01-25 03:04:50 PM  

Smackledorfer: Ahh, I see the problem. Your entire argument is based solely on cherry-picking bullshiat


Right, using the most common vegetables, available everywhere year round is "cherry picking". lol.

Yes, I will be adding a "dishonest and wildly insincere" tag next to your name.
 
2013-01-25 03:10:36 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: Smackledorfer: Ahh, I see the problem. Your entire argument is based solely on cherry-picking bullshiat

Right, using the most common vegetables, available everywhere year round is "cherry picking". lol.

Yes, I will be adding a "dishonest and wildly insincere" tag next to your name.


Naming only a few out of hundreds and acting like they represent the majority is cherry picking.
 
2013-01-25 10:53:01 PM  

semiotix: santadog: May, August, and October I did a juice fast for 30 days each.  Veggie and Fruit juices that I make at home.  I lost 100 pounds by the end of the last fast. ...Before the fast: 261 pounds

You lost 100 pounds and 40% of your weight in six months?

Please tell me I'm missing something here, or miscalculating, or something. A pound every other day is stretching the limits of what's metabolically possible for an extended period of time, and most doctors wouldn't want your weight falling that fast even if you weighed 561 pounds at the start. Funky and lethal things can happen in metabolic free-fall even if you've got fat left to burn and all the right nutrients pumping through your body.


A pound a day. My doctor approves, and my pal who has M.S., her doctor also approves. Go to jointhereboot.com and check out the info there.
 
2013-01-26 12:46:37 AM  

santadog: A pound a day.


I see. That makes for some interesting math, if you're the sort of person who thinks that the human body is subject to the laws of thermodynamics.
 
2013-01-26 09:22:58 AM  

semiotix: santadog: A pound a day.

I see. That makes for some interesting math, if you're the sort of person who thinks that the human body is subject to the laws of thermodynamics.


I don't even think Holocaust Jews in the camps lost a pound a day.
 
2013-01-26 11:46:46 AM  

Benjimin_Dover: I don't even think Holocaust Jews in the camps lost a pound a day.


They lacked the super-healing powers of juicing, the purity of nutrition, and incredible energy availability of avoiding fiber.

santadog: 2. By extracting the juice from the fiber, your digestion takes a bit of a break because the juice is so quickly absorbed.  The energy you usually burn up digesting is then available to do other things.
3. A super punch of nutrients helps heal your body.  Like I said, all my borderline bad levels were all well within normal range after the 2nd Fast. And within 4 months.
4. I don't know if that switch, or "thing" inside me that killed all the bad cravings would have happened unless I brought my nutritional intake down to what I consider to be, a very pure level.

 
2013-01-27 02:39:10 PM  
The first photo is from April.  The second is from the end of October.

<img src="http://imageshack.us/a/img585/7848/deannas.jpg" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/><br/>
 
2013-01-27 02:55:05 PM  
oops
 
2013-01-27 03:03:19 PM  

semiotix: santadog: A pound a day.

I see. That makes for some interesting math, if you're the sort of person who thinks that the human body is subject to the laws of thermodynamics.


FYI a pound of pure fat is the 6k calories. A pound of weight loss involves both fat and water, and likely some muscle as well. Then above and beyond the water your muscle and fat hold on their own many diets will see water loss from lower sodium. Finally many a fatty will see quite a bit of weight loss at the jump start of the diet as they go from heavy meals to small meals. A good chunk of weight can be carried throughout the bowels.

So it isn't quite a thermodynamic impossibility you make it out to be.

grats to santadog but I still think juicing is rubbish :)

/note, just because it 'worked' doesn't mean it is a good diet plan. All sorts of goofy shiat 'works' but is far from ideal.
 
2013-01-27 04:41:30 PM  

Smackledorfer: So it isn't quite a thermodynamic impossibility you make it out to be.


I wouldn't use words like "impossible," and I was going on the 3,500 kcal = 1 pound equivalence, not 6,000. But you're correct that the subtext of my post was a call of bullshiat.

It's extreeeeeeeeemely difficult, though not impossible, to believe (without suspending thermodynamics). You'd have to assume a near-superhuman basal metabolic rate, and if he had that she wouldn't have gotten to 261 pounds no matter what. You'd also have to assume she was not merely active but positively vigorous for the hundred days in which she was eating nothing. Every one of those delicious whole-pineapple-plus-other-fruit smoothies would be a good 45 minutes jogging on the treadmill, on top of several more hours to make the BMR calories plus the exercise calories plus the regular moving-around calories minus the smoothie calories equal 3,500.

For a hundred straight days. (Or, I guess--kind of hard to tell from her posts--three bursts of 30 days, with months in which she didn't lose or gain any weight in between?) Maybe a few days less, as you say, depending on how much of a fecal load she was carrying around on a day to day basis.

There are lots of explanations for her claim, many of which do not involve her telling outright lies, but none of which are both plausible and involve her actually losing a pound a day for a hundred days.
 
2013-01-27 05:22:04 PM  
I can never remember 3k-ish vs. 6. It is liike I've been wrong so often my brain can't learn this fact :).

I hear ya though.
 
2013-01-27 11:05:11 PM  

semiotix: Smackledorfer: So it isn't quite a thermodynamic impossibility you make it out to be.

I wouldn't use words like "impossible," and I was going on the 3,500 kcal = 1 pound equivalence, not 6,000. But you're correct that the subtext of my post was a call of bullshiat.

It's extreeeeeeeeemely difficult, though not impossible, to believe (without suspending thermodynamics). You'd have to assume a near-superhuman basal metabolic rate, and if he had that she wouldn't have gotten to 261 pounds no matter what. You'd also have to assume she was not merely active but positively vigorous for the hundred days in which she was eating nothing. Every one of those delicious whole-pineapple-plus-other-fruit smoothies would be a good 45 minutes jogging on the treadmill, on top of several more hours to make the BMR calories plus the exercise calories plus the regular moving-around calories minus the smoothie calories equal 3,500.

For a hundred straight days. (Or, I guess--kind of hard to tell from her posts--three bursts of 30 days, with months in which she didn't lose or gain any weight in between?) Maybe a few days less, as you say, depending on how much of a fecal load she was carrying around on a day to day basis.

There are lots of explanations for her claim, many of which do not involve her telling outright lies, but none of which are both plausible and involve her actually losing a pound a day for a hundred days.


Lies.  Yeah, how about fark you.
You sound like you have a small penis.
Seriously.
 
2013-01-27 11:10:47 PM  

santadog: Lies.  Yeah, how about fark you.
You sound like you have a small penis.
Seriously.


How you doin'?
 
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